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30th Jul '17 4:29:28 AM crashkey
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See also YouAlreadyChangedThePast, where ''any'' change you make to the past already happened before you thought of it. If a paradox IS possible, but you avoided it by making it look like you haven't changed anything, you have this trope. If you think you've Tricked Out Time, but actually YouAlreadyChangedThePast see MindScrew.

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See also YouAlreadyChangedThePast, where ''any'' change you make to the past already happened before you thought of it. If a paradox IS possible, but you avoided it by making it look like you haven't changed anything, you have this trope. If you think you've Tricked Out Time, but actually YouAlreadyChangedThePast see MindScrew.
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21st Jul '17 1:48:55 PM nighttrainfm
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* Used in the third season finale of ''Series/TheFlash2014''. As Barry is apparently destined to watch Savitar kill Iris, [[spoiler: H.R]] uses a holographic disguise to impersonate her and die in her place. This still wrecks the StableTimeLoop around her death, however, as once Barry learns the truth he has no reason to [[spoiler: create the time remnant who will become Savitar.]]

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* Used in the third season finale of ''Series/TheFlash2014''. As Barry is apparently destined to watch Savitar kill Iris, [[spoiler: H.R]] uses a holographic disguise to impersonate her and die in her place. This still wrecks breaks the StableTimeLoop around her death, however, as once Barry learns the truth he has no reason to [[spoiler: create the time remnant who will become *become* Savitar.]]
21st Jul '17 1:47:45 PM nighttrainfm
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* Used in the third season finale of ''Series/TheFlash2014''. As Barry is apparently destined to watch Savitar kill Iris, [[spoiler: H.R]] uses a holographic disguise to impersonate her and die in her place. This still wrecks the StableTimeLoop around her death, however, as once Barry learns the truth he has no reason to [[spoiler: create the time remnant who will become Savitar.]]
7th Jun '17 2:51:19 PM WillKeaton
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** ''[[Franchise/DoctorWho]]'' [[Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]]:

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7th Jun '17 2:51:07 PM WillKeaton
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7th Jun '17 2:49:59 PM WillKeaton
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How does one fake a StableTimeLoop? Well, you go back in time, and you make it ''look'' like the original thing happened, when instead, something else happened entirely. The important thing is that everyone who witnessed the event to be changed still see the same thing. Care must be taken to ensure the change is not detected by the wrong people until after the original time excursion point. If you go back and [[FakingTheDead save]] [[TimeTravelEscape someone]] by [[DecoyGetaway replacing them with a robot clone at the last minute]], it's probably best that this person go with the time traveller Back To The Future[[TradeSnark ]].

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How does one fake a StableTimeLoop? Well, you go back in time, and you make it ''look'' like the original thing happened, when instead, something else happened entirely. The important thing is that everyone who witnessed the event to be changed still see the same thing. Care must be taken to ensure the change is not detected by the wrong people until after the original time excursion point. If you go back and [[FakingTheDead save]] [[TimeTravelEscape someone]] by [[DecoyGetaway replacing them with a robot clone at the last minute]], it's probably best that this person go with the time traveller Back To The Future[[TradeSnark ]].
Future.[[TradeSnark ]]
21st May '17 8:49:44 PM PaulA
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* The basic concept of Creator/MargaretPetersonHaddix's Series ''The Missing'' follows young siblings Jonah and Katherine as they [[spoiler:travel back in time after learning that Jonah, along with 36 other children, are actually famous individuals from the past that experianced early deaths, and that they were removed from time to be saved from an impending death and sold off in a future by smugglers. However, this caused a ripple across time that led to the present and future not following the "proper timeline."]] In the series, Jonah and Katherine [[spoiler:must return the children to their rightful places in the timeline,]] but they trick time by [[spoiler: time travelling away with the person who was meant to die at the last second, slowly creating a Main/StableTimeLoop with each child "returned."]]

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* The basic concept of Creator/MargaretPetersonHaddix's Series ''The Missing'' series ''Literature/TheMissing'' follows young siblings Jonah and Katherine as they [[spoiler:travel back in time after learning that Jonah, along with 36 other children, are actually famous individuals from the past that experianced early deaths, and that they were removed from time to be saved from an impending death and sold off in a future by smugglers. However, this caused a ripple across time that led to the present and future not following the "proper timeline."]] In the series, Jonah and Katherine [[spoiler:must return the children to their rightful places in the timeline,]] but they trick time by [[spoiler: time [[spoiler:time travelling away with the person who was meant to die at the last second, slowly creating a Main/StableTimeLoop StableTimeLoop with each child "returned."]]
23rd Mar '17 6:20:26 PM EdwardGil
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* In ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', [[spoiler:the hero]] is fried by Lavos the EldritchAbomination. But wait! At the festival that began the game, there's a minigame where you can win a handy Clone. The heroes take the clone, go to the point precisely before [[spoiler:you know who]] was evaporated, stop time, and [[DecoyGetaway replace him with the clone]], then take him back to the future.

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* In ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', [[spoiler:the hero]] is fried by Lavos the EldritchAbomination. But wait! At the festival that began the game, there's a minigame where you can win a handy Clone.Clone (it's a lifelike doll, no intelligence). The heroes take the clone, go to the point precisely before [[spoiler:you know who]] was evaporated, stop time, and [[DecoyGetaway replace him with the clone]], then take him back to the future.
16th Mar '17 3:34:59 PM AthenaBlue
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* The ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' episode "Self Made Man" is a textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler:In it, a terminator sent back in time to the year 2010 to assassinate the Governor of California during the re-opening ceremony of an historic building in downtown LA accidentally arrives 90 years too early, inadvertently disrupting the chain of events which were to lead to said building's construction in the first place. The terminator then spends the next several decades building his own real estate enterprise from the ground up for the sole purpose of ensuring the construction of this building would proceed as it would have without his original interference. He then proceeds to hibernate in one of the building's walls, gun in hand, intent upon carrying out his mission as originally planned. Luckily, Cameron stops him.]]
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
** In the episode "Past Tense", Sisko inadvertently travels back in time to just before a historically significant riot. When the Gabriel Bell, who led the riots, dies trying to protect him, Sisko assumes his identity and does the things that history says Bell did. History also says that Bell ''dies'' in the riots, [[spoiler:which Sisko gets around by simply planting his ID on a corpse in the aftermath]]. When he gets back, Starfleet calls him up wanting to know exactly why the history books have changed to feature Sisko's picture in them, but then, they've got a time travel division specifically watching for this sort of thing. This led to a recurring gag as characters like Bashir and Nog keep noticing Sisko's photograph whenever they were reading about Earth history, only to dismiss Bell and Sisko's odd resemblance to each other.
** Another episode has a Bajoran poet who is listed as having disappeared centuries ago, leaving a poem unfinished. He appears in the present by coming out of the wormhole, and after he goes back through the wormhole to his own time at the end of the episode, history now lists him living to a ripe old age, finishing the poem, and writing several others afterwards. Kira is somewhat nonplussed that she can simultaneously remember studying the poem in its unfinished and finished states, and Sisko concludes that the wormhole aliens that caused it were screwing with them.



** ''Doctor Who'' Main Universe:
*** The new series episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay Father's Day]]" is all about this trope. You can visit the exact same point in time repeatedly so long as you don't make [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet your past self]] experience something you don't remember experiencing.
*** Though not part of any of the TV series, this would have added an interesting angle to the Doctor's position in the future episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii The Fires of Pompeii]]". He's in denial about why he can't try to save the city.
*** Major spoilers: [[spoiler:Series 6 ends with the Doctor going to the death we saw at the beginning of it... inside the shape-shifting robot from "Let's Kill Hitler", disguised to look like him.]]

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** ''Doctor Who'' Main Universe:
The Show Proper:
*** The new series episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay Father's Day]]" [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E10TheDoctorDances "The Doctor Dances"]] has a minor one. When the Doctor blows up the Chulan warship ([[spoiler:which is an ambulance]]) he mentions that "History said there was an explosion here". Originally, this was caused by a bomb, but Captain Jack got rid of that.
*** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay "Father's Day"]]
is all about this trope. You can visit the exact same point in time repeatedly so long as you don't make [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet your past self]] experience something you don't remember experiencing.
*** Though not part of any of the TV series, this would have added an interesting angle to the Doctor's position in the future episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii]]".Pompeii"]]. He's in denial about why he can't try to save the city.
*** Major spoilers: [[spoiler:Series 6 ends [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E13TheWeddingOfRiverSong ends]] with the Doctor going to the death we saw at the beginning [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E1TheImpossibleAstronaut beginning]] of it... inside the shape-shifting robot from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E8LetsKillHitler "Let's Kill Hitler", Hitler"]], disguised to look like him.]]



*** Invoked by the Doctor in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan The Angels Take Manhattan]]" when he explains that once you see the future it becomes fixed in time.
*** More major spoilers: [[spoiler:the Doctor (all ''thirteen'' regenerations) removes Gallifrey from the Time War, [[DeadlyDodging not only making the Daleks kill themselves in the crossfire]], but also making it appear to have been destroyed to the rest of the universe (and himself)]].
*** "The Doctor Dances" has a minor one. When the Doctor blows up the Chulan warship ([[spoiler:which is an ambulance]]) he mentions that "History said there was an explosion here". Originally, this was caused by a bomb, but Captain Jack got rid of that.

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*** Invoked by the Doctor in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan]]" Manhattan"]] when he explains that once you see the future it becomes fixed in time.
*** More major spoilers: In [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor "The Day of the Doctor"]], [[spoiler:the Doctor (all ''thirteen'' regenerations) removes Gallifrey from the Time War, [[DeadlyDodging not only making the Daleks kill themselves in the crossfire]], but also making it appear to have been destroyed to the rest of the universe (and himself)]].
*** "The Doctor Dances" has a minor one. When the Doctor blows up the Chulan warship ([[spoiler:which is an ambulance]]) he mentions that "History said there was an explosion here". Originally, this was caused by a bomb, but Captain Jack got rid of that.
himself)]].



*** In the [[AudioAdaptation audio drama]] ''The Fires of Vulcan'', the Fifth Doctor is told by UNIT that his TARDIS is found in Pompeii, buried under the volcanic ash and revealed by an earthquake. Later, as the Seventh Doctor, the TARDIS drops them in Pompeii, and the Doctor is initially resolved to his fate of dying there. They eventually figure out a plan involving letting themselves get covered in ash, and then jumping forward to just before the Earthquake, letting the earthquake happen, get out, and let UNIT find the TARDIS, and then go and steal it back.

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*** In the [[AudioAdaptation audio drama]] ''The "The Fires of Vulcan'', Vulcan", the Fifth Doctor is told by UNIT that his TARDIS is found in Pompeii, buried under the volcanic ash and revealed by an earthquake. Later, as the Seventh Doctor, the TARDIS drops them in Pompeii, and the Doctor is initially resolved to his fate of dying there. They eventually figure out a plan involving letting themselves get covered in ash, and then jumping forward to just before the Earthquake, letting the earthquake happen, get out, and let UNIT find the TARDIS, and then go and steal it back.



* The "prophetic vision" variant was used in the ''Series/PainkillerJane'': A neuro had a vision of a future where he shot and killed each member of Jane's team when they pursued him and warned her against chasing him, trying to stop this. It came true anyway, with one small exception: Jane was the one who took the shots, carefully disguising herself so she appeared to be each member of the team in turn. Since she has a HealingFactor, no one died.



* The "prophetic vision" variant was used in the ''Series/PainkillerJane'': A neuro had a vision of a future where he shot and killed each member of Jane's team when they pursued him and warned her against chasing him, trying to stop this. It came true anyway, with one small exception: Jane was the one who took the shots, carefully disguising herself so she appeared to be each member of the team in turn. Since she has a HealingFactor, no one died.

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* The "prophetic vision" variant was used in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
** In
the ''Series/PainkillerJane'': A neuro had episode "Past Tense", Sisko inadvertently travels back in time to just before a vision of a future where he shot and killed each member of Jane's team when they pursued him and warned her against chasing him, historically significant riot. When the Gabriel Bell, who led the riots, dies trying to stop this. It came true anyway, with one small exception: Jane was protect him, Sisko assumes his identity and does the one who took things that history says Bell did. History also says that Bell ''dies'' in the shots, carefully disguising herself so she appeared riots, [[spoiler:which Sisko gets around by simply planting his ID on a corpse in the aftermath]]. When he gets back, Starfleet calls him up wanting to be know exactly why the history books have changed to feature Sisko's picture in them, but then, they've got a time travel division specifically watching for this sort of thing. This led to a recurring gag as characters like Bashir and Nog keep noticing Sisko's photograph whenever they were reading about Earth history, only to dismiss Bell and Sisko's odd resemblance to each member other.
** Another episode has a Bajoran poet who is listed as having disappeared centuries ago, leaving a poem unfinished. He appears in the present by coming out
of the team in turn. Since wormhole, and after he goes back through the wormhole to his own time at the end of the episode, history now lists him living to a ripe old age, finishing the poem, and writing several others afterwards. Kira is somewhat nonplussed that she has can simultaneously remember studying the poem in its unfinished and finished states, and Sisko concludes that the wormhole aliens that caused it were screwing with them.
* The ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' episode "Self Made Man" is
a HealingFactor, no textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler:In it, a terminator sent back in time to the year 2010 to assassinate the Governor of California during the re-opening ceremony of an historic building in downtown LA accidentally arrives 90 years too early, inadvertently disrupting the chain of events which were to lead to said building's construction in the first place. The terminator then spends the next several decades building his own real estate enterprise from the ground up for the sole purpose of ensuring the construction of this building would proceed as it would have without his original interference. He then proceeds to hibernate in one died.of the building's walls, gun in hand, intent upon carrying out his mission as originally planned. Luckily, Cameron stops him.]]
9th Jan '17 5:37:47 PM nombretomado
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* ''Das Königsprojekt'': A different approach was taken in this German novel. Here, it is possible to change the past - but only if there are no written sources of the event changed, or so few that you can change them on the fly - for example, giving a noble family a lot of diamonds and correcting the only source, the family chronicles, from "the fortunes of family X were greatly ''reduced'' during [the time in question]" to "''augmented''". Killing Martin Luther (because the only existing time machine, built by LeonardoDaVinci, is in the hands of the Catholic church) is right out and has to go awry, as they found out when they tried one time. (The time traveler and the machine returned with a bang to the present, resulting in the story of Martin Luther throwing an inkpot at what he believed was the devil.) FridgeLogic: What happens if there are no sources in the time traveller's present, but many at the point in time he's going to?

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* ''Das Königsprojekt'': A different approach was taken in this German novel. Here, it is possible to change the past - but only if there are no written sources of the event changed, or so few that you can change them on the fly - for example, giving a noble family a lot of diamonds and correcting the only source, the family chronicles, from "the fortunes of family X were greatly ''reduced'' during [the time in question]" to "''augmented''". Killing Martin Luther (because the only existing time machine, built by LeonardoDaVinci, Creator/LeonardoDaVinci, is in the hands of the Catholic church) is right out and has to go awry, as they found out when they tried one time. (The time traveler and the machine returned with a bang to the present, resulting in the story of Martin Luther throwing an inkpot at what he believed was the devil.) FridgeLogic: What happens if there are no sources in the time traveller's present, but many at the point in time he's going to?
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