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2nd Dec '16 11:43:55 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' gives us the GreaterScopeVillain [[spoiler:[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Anankos]]. The world hasn't been kind to him, due to his dragon nature. This becomes more apparent once the player discovers his soul/original self, who's a genuinely good person, as well as his [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters ba]][[GoMadFromTheIsolation ck]][[AccidentalMurder st]][[TragicMistake ory]]. Knowing full well he was going insane slowly, Anankos did all that he could to prevent it, but did eventually end up going mad. Despite going crazy, his soul still managed to escape and gather warriors capable of killing dragons; but even this failed and had to change his plans. Anankos' soul was eventually killed and returned to the feral mad original body, but before he was fully lost he begged for the warriors and the Avatar to end him. Azura even thinks that the song ''Lost in Thoughts All Alone'' is actually Anankos' cry for help to end his suffering. WordOfGod says it actually is. Sadly enough the ''Heirs of Fate'' version of Anankos was desperately looking for a world where he hadn't gone insane and screwed things up for everyone. All Anankos ever wanted was to go back to how things were before he went insane; but in 22 worlds so far he failed to find any world where he didn't go crazy. [[ShootTheShaggyDog The reason being that his insanity is a condition of being a dragon which means it's impossible to find a world where he isn't insane]]. Just to add the tragedy: Anankos, or at least his humanoid soul, is the Avatar's ''[[ArchnemesisDad father]]'', and in the ''Hidden Truths'' DLC its revealed that Anankos' soul wants ''nothing more'' than the Avatar to know of their father, and desperately wants to have a normal life with them and Mikoto.]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' gives us the GreaterScopeVillain [[spoiler:[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Anankos]]. The world hasn't been kind to him, due to his dragon nature. This becomes more apparent once the player discovers his soul/original self, who's a genuinely good person, as well as his [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters ba]][[GoMadFromTheIsolation ck]][[AccidentalMurder st]][[TragicMistake ory]]. [[TragicMistake backstory]]. Knowing full well he was [[GoMadFromTheIsolation going insane slowly, slowly]], Anankos did all that he could to prevent it, but did eventually end up going mad. Despite going crazy, his soul still managed to escape and gather warriors capable of killing dragons; but even this failed and had to change his plans. Anankos' soul was eventually killed and returned to the feral mad original body, but before he was fully lost he begged for the warriors and the Avatar to end him. Azura even thinks that the song ''Lost in Thoughts All Alone'' is actually Anankos' cry for help to end his suffering. WordOfGod says it actually is. Sadly enough the ''Heirs of Fate'' version of Anankos was desperately looking for a world where he hadn't gone insane and screwed things up for everyone. All Anankos ever wanted was to go back to how things were before he went insane; but in 22 worlds so far he failed to find any world where he didn't go crazy. [[ShootTheShaggyDog The reason being that his insanity is a condition of being a dragon which means it's impossible to find a world where he isn't insane]]. Just to add the tragedy: Anankos, or at least his humanoid soul, is the Avatar's ''[[ArchnemesisDad father]]'', and in the ''Hidden Truths'' DLC its revealed that Anankos' soul wants ''nothing more'' than the Avatar to know of their father, and desperately wants to have a normal life with them and Mikoto.]]



** [[spoiler:His son, Asriel, is also one. He clung desperately to the memory of his OnlyFriend, the First Child. Even sadder, it's likely that they never loved him back at all and only used Asriel to initiate [[OmnicidalManiac their]] [[KillEmAll plans]]. After their death, Asriel absorbed their soul out of grief and went through the barrier just to place them on a bed of flowers in their village. Thinking that Asriel killed the Child, the villagers attacked him until he was fatally wounded and died back home, only for his "dust" to spread all over a garden.]] [[spoiler:Eventually, due to experiments with determination, he wakes up unable to feel not only his limbs, but any form of compassion whatsoever. Over time, due to boredom, he uses the power to SAVE to kill everyone over and over until the protagonist comes along. We know him now as [[BigBad Flowey]].]]

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** [[spoiler:His son, Asriel, is also one. He clung desperately to the memory of his OnlyFriend, the First Child. Even sadder, it's likely that they never loved him back at all and only used Asriel to initiate [[OmnicidalManiac their]] [[KillEmAll their plans]]. After their death, Asriel absorbed their soul out of grief and went through the barrier just to place them on a bed of flowers in their village. Thinking that Asriel killed the Child, the villagers attacked him until he was fatally wounded and died back home, only for his "dust" to spread all over a garden.]] [[spoiler:Eventually, Eventually, due to experiments with determination, he wakes up unable to feel not only his limbs, but any form of compassion whatsoever. Over time, due to boredom, he uses the power to SAVE to kill everyone over and over until the protagonist comes along. We know him now as [[BigBad Flowey]].]]
2nd Dec '16 11:35:41 PM BlackSunNocturne
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' gives us the GreaterScopeVillain [[spoiler:[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Anankos]]. The world hasn't been kind to him, due to his dragon nature. This becomes more apparent once the player discovers his soul/original self, who's a genuinely good person, as well as his [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters ba]][[GoMadFromTheIsolation ck]][[AccidentalMurder st]][[TragicMistake ory]]. Knowing full well he was going insane slowly, Anankos did all that he could to prevent it, but did eventually end up going mad. Despite going crazy, his soul still managed to escape and gather warriors capable of killing dragons; but even this failed and had to change his plans. Anankos' soul was eventually killed and returned to the feral mad original body, but before he was fully lost he begged for the warriors and the Avatar to end him. Azura even thinks that the song ''Lost in Thoughts All Alone'' is actually Anankos' cry for help to end his suffering. WordOfGod says it actually is. Sadly enough the ''Heirs of Fate'' version of Anankos was desperately looking for a world where he hadn't gone insane and screwed things up for everyone. All Anankos ever wanted was to go back to how things were before he went insane; but in 22 worlds so far he failed to find any world where he didn't go crazy. [[ShootTheShaggyDog The reason being that his insanity is a condition of being a dragon which means it's impossible to find a world where he isn't insane]]. Just to add the tragedy: Anankos, or at least his humanoid soul, is the Avatar's ''[[ArchnemesisDad father]]'', and in the ''Hidden Truths'' DLC its revealed that Anankos' soul wants ''nothing more'' than the Avatar to know of their father, and desperately wants to have a normal life with them and Mikoto.]]
2nd Dec '16 5:38:19 PM G-Editor
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** Another villain who was reintroduced in the Cataclysm is the dragon aspect Neltharion the Earthwarder, one of the five dragons created by the titans to protect Azeroth from the Old Gods' corruption. Unfortunately, while he was in a 1000 year rest, the Old Gods managed to whisper to him, driving Neltharion mad and causing him to devastate the other dragonflights and gain a new name for himself: Deathwing the Destroyer.
2nd Dec '16 4:47:01 PM G-Editor
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' Has the Hyenas. Sure they may not look like it but in hindsight, they are treated with little to no respect by other animals of the Pride Lands and live in worst conditions in the lands forcing them to scavenge what little food they find or else they'd die from starvation. This allowed Scar to easily manipulate them, with the promise that they will be well fed and treated with the respect they deserve. Then they find out that Scar would sell them out just to save his own skin, becoming disillusioned of him and decide to eat him as payback.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' Has the Hyenas. Sure they may not look like it but in hindsight, they are treated with little to no respect by other animals of the Pride Lands and live in worst conditions in the lands forcing them to scavenge what little food they find or else they'd die from starvation. This allowed Scar to easily manipulate them, with the promise that they will be well fed and treated with the respect they deserve. Then they find out that Scar Scar's rule over the Pride Land was far worse for them, plus hearing the fact that he would sell them out just to save his own skin, becoming disillusioned of him and decide to eat him as payback.
2nd Dec '16 4:42:59 PM G-Editor
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' Has the Hyenas. Sure they may not look like it but in hindsight, they are treated with little to no respect by other animals of the Pride Lands and live in worst conditions in the lands forcing them to scavenge what little food they find or else they'd die from starvation. This allowed Scar to easily manipulate them, with the promise that they will be well fed and treated with the respect they deserve.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' Has the Hyenas. Sure they may not look like it but in hindsight, they are treated with little to no respect by other animals of the Pride Lands and live in worst conditions in the lands forcing them to scavenge what little food they find or else they'd die from starvation. This allowed Scar to easily manipulate them, with the promise that they will be well fed and treated with the respect they deserve. Then they find out that Scar would sell them out just to save his own skin, becoming disillusioned of him and decide to eat him as payback.
2nd Dec '16 4:40:22 PM G-Editor
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' has Scar, who, while arguably an utter sociopath, is this way because he was called "Taka" by his parents, which translates to "trash", or "dirt", and the fact that Mufasa gets to be what was his goal all along. Being king of pride rock.
** There was also the Hyenas, who had to live by eating other species, because they'd die from no food, and were cluelessly manipulated all along.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' has Scar, who, while arguably an utter sociopath, is this way because he was called "Taka" by his parents, which translates to "trash", or "dirt", and Has the fact that Mufasa gets Hyenas. Sure they may not look like it but in hindsight, they are treated with little to be what was his goal all along. Being king of pride rock.
** There was also the Hyenas, who had to live
no respect by eating other species, because animals of the Pride Lands and live in worst conditions in the lands forcing them to scavenge what little food they find or else they'd die from no food, starvation. This allowed Scar to easily manipulate them, with the promise that they will be well fed and were cluelessly manipulated all along.treated with the respect they deserve.
23rd Nov '16 2:19:17 PM AustinDR
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* Koba from ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes''. While [[TheHero Caesar]] grew up with kind caretakers and recognized the good in humanity, Koba spent much of his life being tortured and experimented on by his captors at [=GenSys=]. He's fiercely loyal to Caesar after he liberates the apes, but grows more and more paranoid that the surviving humans will wage war. By the end of the film, he's become ''even worse'' than the humans he grew to hate and fear.
23rd Nov '16 2:18:56 PM AustinDR
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* [[spoiler:Lots-o-Huggin' Bear]] from ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' as well. He became heartless and completely vile because he was abandoned (not intentionally) and was replaced. Unlike [[spoiler:Stinky Pete, Lotso]] never sought redemption.
23rd Nov '16 4:51:12 AM flodoris
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*** [[spoiler:His mental battle with Naruto twists the knife even more where Obito has a vision of what his life would have been like if he didn't let his obsession consume his soul.]]
*** [[spoiler:His final talk with Madara plunges the knife all the way through, when Obito realizes, he never had a chance: Madara took away everything from him. He was orchestrating his downfall all along, and prepared for every possible outcome in order to Obito went along with his Moon Eye Plan]]
15th Nov '16 3:27:49 AM Stranrep
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' has the demonic Apostles, the main villains of the series, were once humans who made a DealWithTheDevil during a moment of ultimate despair.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' has the demonic Apostles, the main villains of the series, were once humans who made a DealWithTheDevil during a moment of ultimate despair. The Godhand, their leaders, had the same origin.
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