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20th Jul '16 12:47:34 PM TimeLordVictorious
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** Tony Soprano. He's a New Jersey mobster who has panic attacks, [[FriendToAllLivingThings loves animals]], wants his kids to have a [[EvilParentsWantGoodKids good future and a good life outside the mafia]], and [[EvenEvilHadLovedOnes cares deeply for his family]].

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** Tony Soprano. He's a New Jersey mobster who has suffers from panic attacks, [[FriendToAllLivingThings loves animals]], wants his kids to have a [[EvilParentsWantGoodKids good future and a good life outside the mafia]], and [[EvenEvilHadLovedOnes [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes cares deeply for his family]].
20th Jul '16 12:46:51 PM TimeLordVictorious
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* ''Series/TheSopranos''
** Tony Soprano. He's a New Jersey mobster who has panic attacks, [[FriendToAllLivingThings loves animals]], wants his kids to have a [[EvilParentsWantGoodKids good future and a good life outside the mafia]], and [[EvenEvilHadLovedOnes cares deeply for his family]].
** Christopher Moltisanti is Tony Soprano's chosen successor, but had drug and addiction problems that harm him and the people around him.
** Tony Blundetto in Season 5 is a newly-released convict who wants to go legit, but ends up going back to a life of crime when it doesn't work out, but his actions ultimately lead to him [[spoiler: getting killed]].
17th Jul '16 11:29:20 PM Sharysa
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* PlayedWith regarding Cord Cai in ''[[{{WebOriginal/Takotsubo}} Takotsubo: The story of a superhero.]]'' Cord is a very troubled young man who was trying to get his life in order, before [[StuffedInTheFridge his fiance Roland got shot in a carjacking.]] Thanks to the [[PoliceAreUseless Oakland police-force majorly fucking up,]] he tracks the murderer down, shoots him in the head, and starts a gang as the vigilante Tin Man because he feels like he has no other choice. However, while Cord ''thinks'' he's [[InternalizedCategorism another Asian failure who can't escape the gang life]], he doesn't even notice that he's gone through the classic SuperheroOrigin Story.

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* PlayedWith regarding Cord Cai in ''[[{{WebOriginal/Takotsubo}} Takotsubo: The story of a superhero.]]'' Cord is a very troubled young man who was trying to get his life in order, before [[StuffedInTheFridge his fiance Roland got shot in a carjacking.]] Thanks to the [[PoliceAreUseless Oakland police-force majorly fucking up,]] he tracks the murderer down, shoots him in the head, and starts a gang as the vigilante Tin Man because he feels like thinks he has no other choice. However, while Cord ''thinks'' he's [[InternalizedCategorism another Asian failure who can't escape the gang life]], he doesn't even notice that he's gone through the classic SuperheroOrigin Story.
11th Jul '16 5:03:43 AM ChrisX
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*** [[spoiler: Hifumi Yamada: manipulated by Celestia Ludenberg into thinking Kiyotaka Ishimaru had stolen the AI he had befriended (ItMakesSenseInContext), made to kill Taka as a pawn, then he is betrayed by Celeste and killed. Celeste, for the record, is the closest we have to an unsympathetic killer, but she was compelled to kill after being offered enough money to live out the European-style castle fantasy she had dreamed of, thereby casting off her hated former identity of Taeko Yasuhiro.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Hifumi Yamada: manipulated by Celestia Ludenberg into thinking Kiyotaka Ishimaru had stolen the AI he had befriended (ItMakesSenseInContext), made to kill Taka as a pawn, then he is betrayed by Celeste and killed. Celeste, for the record, is the closest we have to an unsympathetic killer, but she was compelled to kill after being offered enough money to live out the European-style castle fantasy she had dreamed of, thereby casting off her hated former identity of Taeko Yasuhiro.Yasuhiro, which according to the manga, was so plain and unremarkable she had to endure a lifetime of isolation and loneliness that once she discovered her gambling talent, she made up the persona of Celeste to make sure she never goes back to that life, even if she has to die as Celeste the ruthless gambler.]]
9th Jul '16 2:25:47 PM nombretomado
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** The protagonist, Jax Teller. He was raised into SAMCRO, and to believe that they're doing the right thing. However, he slowly starts to see that it's wrong, and tries to get SAMCRO into a more peaceful motorcycle club, after getting a kid. Unfortunately, he slowly becomes colder after every season, and after becomming President, he seems to have forgotten himself, and everything he stands for.
** Opie winston. He just wanted to move out of SAMCRO, to get a better life, with his wife and children, and to take Jax with him. Unfortunetly, nothing went well for him, and after his wife's death, he changes his goal into doing suicide.

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** The protagonist, Jax Teller. He was raised into SAMCRO, and to believe that they're doing the right thing. However, he slowly starts to see that it's wrong, and tries to get SAMCRO into a more peaceful motorcycle club, after getting a kid. Unfortunately, he slowly becomes colder after every season, and after becomming becoming President, he seems to have forgotten himself, and everything he stands for.
** Opie winston.Winston. He just wanted to move out of SAMCRO, to get a better life, with his wife and children, and to take Jax with him. Unfortunetly, Unfortunately, nothing went well for him, and after his wife's death, he changes his goal into doing committing suicide.



* Makuta Krika from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''. He didn't agree with [[BigBad Teridax]]'s EvilPlan, nor with him overthrowing the Brotherhood of Makuta's former leader and turning the [[BrotherhoodOfEvil organization evil]], but had he rebelled, Teridax's supporters would have killed him. After realizing what the plan entailed, he became resigned to his fate: if it succeeds, they would become the rulers of a world he wouldn't want anymore, and if it failed, they would face the wrath of a PhysicalGod. [[spoiler:Too late did he find out that Teridax wanted to rule alone. Upon trying to warn his brethren, they believed him to be a traitor, and killed him.]]

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* Makuta Krika from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''.''Toys/{{Bionicle}}''. He didn't agree with [[BigBad Teridax]]'s EvilPlan, nor with him overthrowing the Brotherhood of Makuta's former leader and turning the [[BrotherhoodOfEvil organization evil]], but had he rebelled, Teridax's supporters would have killed him. After realizing what the plan entailed, he became resigned to his fate: if it succeeds, they would become the rulers of a world he wouldn't want anymore, and if it failed, they would face the wrath of a PhysicalGod. [[spoiler:Too late did he find out that Teridax wanted to rule alone. Upon trying to warn his brethren, they believed him to be a traitor, and killed him.]]
6th Jul '16 6:17:06 AM Seth_Phoenix2000
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* Giegue in ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings''. He was raised by George and Maria, but then George began to study Giegue's PSI abilities, and left them. Giegues people didn't like that George studied PSI for fear it could be used against them, so they sent Giegue, who had some very conflicting lloyalties, to deal with Earth. When Ninted and his friends confront him at the summit of Mount Itoi, they don't defeat him with PSI or physical force, but rather by singing the Eight Melodies, a song Maria used to sing to him. After that, he leaves. Made worse by the fact that he returns in the second game, so powerful he needs a machine to keep his powers and sanity in check. When Ness and company defeat him, it's a mercy kill more than anything else.

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* Giegue in ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings''. He was raised by George and Maria, but then George began to study Giegue's PSI abilities, and left them. Giegues Giegue's people didn't like that George studied PSI this, for fear it could be used against them, so they sent Giegue, who had some very conflicting lloyalties, loyalties, to deal with Earth. When Ninted Ninten and his friends confront him at the summit of Mount Itoi, they don't defeat him with PSI or physical force, but rather by singing the Eight Melodies, a song Maria used to sing to him. After that, he leaves. Made worse by the fact that he returns in the second game, so powerful he needs a machine to keep his powers and sanity in check. When Ness and company defeat him, it's a mercy kill more than anything else.else.
** His love for George and Maria is apparently still there, as he is willing to spare Ninten and bring him with him. Ninten is all that he really knows to be left of the ones who raised him.
6th Jul '16 6:11:05 AM Seth_Phoenix2000
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* Giegue in ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings''. He was raised by George and Maria, but then George began to study Giegue's PSI abilities, and left them. Giegues people didn't like that George studied PSI for fear it could be used against them, so they sent Giegue, who had some very conflicting lloyalties, to deal with Earth. When Ninted and his friends confront him at the summit of Mount Itoi, they don't defeat him with PSI or physical force, but rather by singing the Eight Melodies, a song Maria used to sing to him. After that, he leaves. Made worse by the fact that he returns in the second game, so powerful he needs a machine to keep his powers and sanity in check. When Ness and company defeat him, it's a mercy kill more than anything else.
2nd Jul '16 10:06:32 PM Ecrivan
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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, or Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. This ended up being received poorly as Mr. Legend turned his rage on his son. To make matters worse Yuri's NEXT Powers awakened at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]

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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, or Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. This ended up being received poorly as Mr. Legend turned his rage on his son. To make matters worse Yuri's NEXT Powers awakened at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner dinner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]
2nd Jul '16 10:05:18 PM Ecrivan
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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, or Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. Unfortunately....Yuri's NEXT Powers decided to awaken at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]

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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, or Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. Unfortunately....This ended up being received poorly as Mr. Legend turned his rage on his son. To make matters worse Yuri's NEXT Powers decided to awaken awakened at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]
2nd Jul '16 10:03:12 PM Ecrivan
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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. Unfortunately....Yuri's NEXT Powers decided to awaken at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]

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* [[spoiler: Lunatic, or Yuri]] from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' was eventually to be revealed to be this if you consider him a villain. After his father, [[spoiler: Mr. Legend, started to lose his powers he resorted to drinking very heavily. This resulted in a nasty change in his father's personality whom before the power loss inspired him to seek justice for crimes committed against innocent people. Mr. Legend turned from a relatively nice man to an abusive drunk that would regularly commit every type of abuse (''including implied sexual abuse'') on his wife and regularly beat Yuri as well. At one point when Yuri was a teen he tried to get his father to stop the horrible abuse by intervening. Unfortunately....Yuri's NEXT Powers decided to awaken at that exact moment and his blue-green fire power ended up burning his father alive. Despite that Yuri's father had enough time to burn his palm into his face before dying, permanently burn scarring him for life. To make matters worse Yuri's mother in the present is mentally unstable and delusional. She still thinks that her husband is alive and well and routinely has diner table conversations with ''him'' (thin air). When she comes to her senses after seeing the now adult Yuri she thinks of her son as a monster for what he did which could easily be seen as self-defense in a horrible situation and ''he just stands there and listens to her scream at him'' (and it's implied that this happens regularly). It's very obvious Mr. Legend's fall from grace and descent into depravity ended up twisting his view on ''justice'' and shaping him up as the brutal vigilante we see today. Oh yeah and he himself is showing some level of mental instability as he is occasionally imagining his father mocking him over his view of justice...]]
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