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23rd Sep '17 5:42:03 PM SuperSonicHeroes
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* ''[[Fanfic/YugiohEQG Yugioh EQG: Shadow Gates]]: [[spoiler:Shadow was a Duel-Bot that was programed to adapt to duels the same way a human would, but somehow gained sentience on his own. He hid this from almost everyone, out of fear that they would experiment on him. He only revealed it to his creator Sombra, who he trusted above all else and saw as his father. Sombra was eventually convinced Shadow was alive, so he scrapped the project and hid Shadow away in the deepest server of Freeze Industries. Shadow dreamed of being human as he slept, and when Sombra woke him years later he promised to fulfill that dream if Shadow helped him accomplish his goal. So Shadow became a ruthless duelist that hurts his opponents in battle, all to one day be human. However, this dream never came true, and he was [[AccidentalMurder destroyed]] in his duel with Flash Sentry in the finals of the Celestic Cup.]]
14th Sep '17 9:35:44 PM Mhazard
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Or maybe a hero was [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood forced to commit a necessary evil]], and never forgave themselves, deciding they were now a villain beyond hope/not deserving of salvation or redemption, possibly becoming a DeathSeeker in the process.

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Or maybe a hero was [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood forced to commit a necessary evil]], and occasionally [[ForcedIntoEvil any kind of villainy against their will]], and never forgave themselves, deciding they were now a villain beyond hope/not deserving of salvation or redemption, possibly becoming a DeathSeeker in the process.
11th Sep '17 7:37:51 AM mario0987
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** The Master, especially during the two-parter "The End of Time".

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** The Master, especially during the two-parter "The End of Time".Time" were we learn he was driven mad by [[spoiler: the Time Lords for the express purpose of letting them escape the Time War and destroy reality in the process]].


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** [[spoiler: The Doctor himself]] in the three part Series 9 finale. First he watches as [[spoiler: Clara Oswald]] dies while powerless to stop it only to immediately get trapped in a torture chamber for [[spoiler: several billion years]] and DrivenToMadness by his grief. It really is not a surprise that by "Hell Bent" he is trying to achieve the impossible and needs a memory wipe to recover.
5th Sep '17 7:33:39 AM GaryKing95
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** Despite his rather unpleasant personality, Theon becomes one of these due to the degree to which his jerkassery and later villainy is fueled by never being accepted by anyone, as well as his upbringing. His nightmarish fate in Season 3 makes this all the more pronounced.
4th Sep '17 9:32:10 AM fobarimperius
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** Piccolo was one back in "Dragon Ball". He grew up without any parent, giving him a strong hate for Goku for killing his father, King Piccolo, and to fullfill his father's dream that is to TakeOverTheWorld. Gohan sympathises with him, telling him that he is nowhere near as evil as his father ([[CardCarryingVillain he did not take that very well]]). When sacrificing himself to Gohan, he tells him that he was the only one who has ever been nice to him, giving yet another reason why he turned into a cynical megalomaniac. Thanks to Gohan, anyhow, he is now a noble hero.

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** Piccolo was one back in "Dragon Ball". He grew up without any parent, giving him a strong hate for Goku for killing his father, King Piccolo, and to fullfill his father's dream that is to TakeOverTheWorld. Gohan sympathises with him, telling him that he is nowhere near as evil as his father ([[CardCarryingVillain he did not take that very well]]). When sacrificing himself to Gohan, he tells him that he was the only one who has ever been nice to him, giving yet another reason why he turned into a cynical megalomaniac. Thanks to Gohan, anyhow, he is now a noble hero. He's so close with the main cast now that he's practically an uncle to Gohan's daughter, Pan.



* Subverted with Johan Liebert from ''Anime/{{Monster}}''. He suffered extreme trauma as a child and it's clear that it continues to haunt him. However, others suffered similarly without becoming monsters, and Hartmann admits that he couldn't have crafted a monster like Johan.

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* Subverted with Johan Liebert from ''Anime/{{Monster}}''. He suffered extreme trauma as a child and it's clear that it continues to haunt him. However, others suffered similarly without becoming monsters, and Hartmann admits that he couldn't have crafted a monster like Johan. [[spoiler: As the series progresses, it becomes clear that Johan's "trauma" may have been a self-induced situation, as it was his sister who suffered and he took those memories and ran them as his own.]]
27th Aug '17 2:25:09 AM RedScharlach
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': CharacterDevelopment revealed that Gaara's psychosis was a direct result of the actions of his own father's attempts to either turn him into a living weapon or kill him. Insanity and Shukaku's whispers were his last refuge from the bleak emptiness of his childhood. Thankfully, he does a HeelFaceTurn and life starts getting better for him. [[spoiler:As the series has progressed a majority of the villians has turned out to be this with notable exeptions being Zabuza and Orochimaru]].

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': CharacterDevelopment revealed that Gaara's psychosis was a direct result of the actions of his own father's attempts to either turn him into a living weapon or kill him. Insanity and Shukaku's whispers were his last refuge from the bleak emptiness of his childhood. Thankfully, he does a HeelFaceTurn and life starts getting better for him. [[spoiler:As the series has progressed a majority of the villians has villains have turned out to be this with notable exeptions exceptions being Zabuza and Orochimaru]].



** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is one too... probably. [[MultipleChoicePast He just can't remember what it is]]. Or, possibly [[UnreliableNarrator he just]] [[MultipleChoicePast made it up]] to get his targets to lower their guard. He was one in The Batman, where he started out as an unsuccesful comedian, and was one, until he fell in a lab of chemicals that turned him into a complete psychopath.

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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is one too... probably. [[MultipleChoicePast He just can't remember what it is]]. Or, possibly [[UnreliableNarrator he just]] [[MultipleChoicePast made it up]] to get his targets to lower their guard. He was one in The Batman, where he started out as an unsuccesful unsuccessful comedian, and was one, until he fell in a lab of chemicals that turned him into a complete psychopath.



** Dr. Octopus in ''Film/SpiderMan2'' is eaten up by guilt after a FreakLabAccident and is driven mad by the AI controlling his cybernetic arms .

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** Dr. Octopus in ''Film/SpiderMan2'' is eaten up by guilt after a FreakLabAccident and is driven mad by the AI controlling his cybernetic arms .arms.



*** Harry Osborn/[[spoiler:Green Goblin]], played by [=Dane DeHaan=]. He was neglected and belittled by his obsessed, sickly father Norman and on top of that, inherits his own fatal disease. He begs Peter to help him get Spidey's blood in order to synthesize a cure. Peter suggests things could turn worse and tells him this as Spidey too, but Harry is desperate for anything that will save him, even if it kills him. When he finally does get the blood, since it's [[spoiler:designed with Richard Parker's blood and thus why it only worked on Peter and failed with everyone else]]. It turns him into [[spoiler:Green Goblin]] and he blames Peter/Spidey even more, especially when finding out about his dual identities. While what he wants throughout the movie makes him identifiable and understandable, it doesn't make [[spoiler: [[MoralEventHorizon causing Gwen's death]]]] easily forgivable.
*** Max Dillon/Electro. Abandoned and mistreated by nearly everyone (even his own mother who fails to remember his own birthday and interprets his humming hint as annoying singing in a deleted scene) and with just Spidey giving him encouragement, he got into an accident involved electric course because of said mistreatment, and everyone are either ignoring him or treating him as a true menace (unlike Spidey who this time around are more welcomed by the public), so he's had enough and decided to lash out to humanity for all their mistreatment to him.

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*** Harry Osborn/[[spoiler:Green Goblin]], played by [=Dane DeHaan=]. He was neglected and belittled by his obsessed, sickly father Norman and on top of that, inherits his own fatal disease. He begs Peter to help him get Spidey's blood in order to synthesize a cure. Peter suggests things could turn worse and tells him this as Spidey too, but Harry is desperate for anything that will save him, even if it kills him. When he finally does get the blood, since it's [[spoiler:designed with Richard Parker's blood and thus why it only worked on Peter and failed with everyone else]]. It else]], it turns him into [[spoiler:Green Goblin]] and he blames Peter/Spidey even more, especially when finding out about his dual identities. While what he wants throughout the movie makes him identifiable and understandable, it doesn't make [[spoiler: [[MoralEventHorizon causing Gwen's death]]]] easily forgivable.
*** Max Dillon/Electro. Abandoned and mistreated by nearly everyone (even his own mother who fails to remember his own birthday and interprets his humming hint as annoying singing in a deleted scene) and with just Spidey giving him encouragement, he got into an accident involved involving electric course because of said mistreatment, eels, and everyone are either ignoring ignores him or treating treats him as a true menace (unlike Spidey who this time around are is more welcomed accepted by the public), so he's had enough and decided he decides to lash out to humanity for all their mistreatment to him.



*** Krall in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond''. He was [[spoiler: the captain of the USS Franklin, Balthazar Edison when the MACOs were disbanded, and after being ''put out to pasture'' on an obsolete starship, he was left to go mad on Altamid as he watched his crew die and was abandoned by the Federation.]]

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*** Krall in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond''. He was [[spoiler: the captain of the USS Franklin, Balthazar Edison Edison, when the MACOs were disbanded, and after being ''put out to pasture'' on an obsolete starship, he was left to go mad on Altamid as he watched his crew die and was abandoned by the Federation.]]



* Peyton Flanders in ''Film/TheHandThatRocksTheCradle'' didn't exactly plan to marry and start a family with a scumbag who ended up killing himself after his crimes were exposed, and the stress from this big revelation (not to mention losing her home to the lawsuits) also caused her to miscarry AND lost the ability to have any future children. It's no wonder she goes insane and sets out to ruin the life of the woman who exposed him.

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* Peyton Flanders in ''Film/TheHandThatRocksTheCradle'' didn't exactly plan to marry and start a family with a scumbag who ended up killing himself after his crimes were exposed, and the stress from this big revelation (not to mention losing her home to the lawsuits) also caused her to miscarry AND lost lose the ability to have any future children. It's no wonder she goes insane and sets out to ruin the life of the woman who exposed him.



** Season 3 had Peter Collier whose brother was wrongfully arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist until he killed himself. The government refused to take responsibility for his death and Collier joins Vigilance to get revenge but turns it from a bunch of glorified vandals into a domestic terror group. [[spoiler: Decima created Vigilance as it's UnwittingPawn and they were all killed once they've served their purpose.]]

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** Season 3 had Peter Collier whose brother was wrongfully arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist until he killed himself. The government refused to take responsibility for his death and Collier joins Vigilance to get revenge but turns it from a bunch of glorified vandals into a domestic terror group. [[spoiler: Decima created Vigilance as it's its UnwittingPawn and they were all killed once they've served their purpose.]]



** "The way i was" by Music/MakeshiftRomeo, is a song about a guy being shaped into becoming ruthless, and not knowing why they're doing it, and being desperate to become who he was earlier in his life, yet wondering if it's too late.

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** "The way i was" Way I Was" by Music/MakeshiftRomeo, is a song about a guy being shaped into becoming ruthless, and not knowing why they're doing it, and being desperate to become who he was earlier in his life, yet wondering if it's too late.



* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' has its share, both in the Horus Heresy and the 41st millenium.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' has its share, both in the Horus Heresy and the 41st millenium.millennium.



* Demona from ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. She seems to be aware, on some level, of her evil, but can't stop doing it or even consciously admit it to herself because that would require her to admit that much of the suffering she's experienced over her millenium-long life was her own fault. So, instead, she's the ultimate WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, lashing out at the world around her in the hope that, if she kills enough humans (and anyone else who gets in her way), it'll be enough to make the hurting stop. She's definitely a villain who needs to go down, but you can't help but feel sorry for her, all the same

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* Demona from ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. She seems to be aware, on some level, of her evil, but can't stop doing it or even consciously admit it to herself because that would require her to admit that much of the suffering she's experienced over her millenium-long millennium-long life was her own fault. So, instead, she's the ultimate WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, lashing out at the world around her in the hope that, if she kills enough humans (and anyone else who gets in her way), it'll be enough to make the hurting stop. She's definitely a villain who needs to go down, but you can't help but feel sorry for her, all the same
22nd Aug '17 9:21:55 PM babyhenchy1
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** [[spoiler: Zuko and Azula's great grandfather Sozin as well. Despite leading a genocide and killing his best friend, Sozin reflects at the end of his life whether all of it was worth it. He somberly concludes that it wasn't and dies a sad and regretful man seeing his life as a waste, despite what the Fire Nation history books would write.]]

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** [[spoiler: Zuko and Azula's great grandfather Sozin as well. Despite leading a genocide and killing his best friend, Sozin reflects at the end of his life whether all of it was worth it. He somberly concludes that it wasn't and dies a sad and regretful man seeing his life as a waste, despite what the Fire Nation history books would write.]] Even more so as, until Zuko, his successors (particularly his grandson) turned out to be far worse, dropping any of of his [[WellIntentionedExtremist more noble intentions]] in favor of power for power's sake.
22nd Aug '17 9:11:12 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': The deaths of Rickard Karstark's sons and the subsequent lack of retribution (including Catelyn freeing Torrhen's killer) drive him mad. Thanks to John Dahl's intense performance and his entirely understandable motives, it's hard not to feel pity for Rickard. The man lost both his sons and the killer went free.

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The deaths of Rickard Karstark's sons and the subsequent lack of retribution (including Catelyn freeing Torrhen's killer) drive him mad. Thanks to John Dahl's intense performance and his entirely understandable motives, it's hard not to feel pity for Rickard. The man lost both his sons and the killer went free.free.
** Jaime knows that he's detested by society, all for a single act that he considered heroic and which saved countless lives.
16th Aug '17 1:29:15 PM neoamon
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* ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' has some. One example is Gerald Robotnik. A champion of humanity and science, he inspired Dr. Eggman (his grandson) into becoming a scientist while he devoted his research to cure his granddaughter Maria of her illness and caring for his creation, Shadow. However, after a massive miscommunication with GUN (and possibly involving Emerl from Sonic Battle), they stormed the ARK and the ambush led to Mari dying, taking the bullet for Shadow. With her death, Gerald became obsessed with revenge, and could not even stop himself from creating his plan to destroy Earth, even acknowledging his spiral into insanity.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' has some. One example is Gerald Robotnik. A champion of humanity and science, he inspired Dr. Eggman (his grandson) into becoming a scientist while he devoted his research to cure his granddaughter Maria of her illness and caring for his creation, Shadow. However, after a massive miscommunication with GUN (and possibly involving Emerl from Sonic Battle), they stormed the ARK and the ambush led to Mari Maria dying, taking the bullet for Shadow. With her death, Gerald became obsessed with revenge, and could not even stop himself from creating his plan to destroy Earth, even acknowledging his spiral into insanity.
3rd Aug '17 1:27:54 PM Njein
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** Mileena is this in both timelines:
*** In the original timeline, most characters think she's a crazed, insane and twisted freak of nature, so she's a ''little'' sensitive about her looks. She has a case of this towards Kitana, at the very least desiring her beauty and at most, wanting her entire life. Nearly all of Mileena's arcade endings before the reboot have her assuming Kitana's identity and seizing Edenia for herself.
*** In the new timeline, [[DragonAscendant though she became Outworld's Kahnum]] [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 after Shao Kahn's death]], she proves to be an even ''worse'' [[TheCaligula ruler]] than him, going as far as being dubbed "The Mad Empress" by the Outworld inhabitants (partly because she was designed to be an AxCrazy clone of Kitana). Kotal Kahn takes advantage of the situation, deposing her and becoming Outworld's new ruler, but she then instigates a rebellion, slowly tearing Outworld apart. But despite being a PsychopathicWomanChild, there's something sadly pathetic about the fact that she has no genuine supporters in her faction during the civil war in ''MKX''. Of those that did support her, Baraka is dead, Rain was purposely driving her to destroy herself with Shinnok's amulet, and Tanya only supported her for Edenia's sake. As it turns out, due to her relative naïveté and weak claim to the throne, nearly every single person under her (barring Baraka) past and present are this to her, with all of them wanting to use her instead to further their own ambitions. And even the ones supposedly aiding her rebellion are plotting to off her right afterwards, and she's the only one unable to see it. Despite her instabilities, she still seems devoted to serving out her 'father's' will, and it seems at times she only wants to rule [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 because she was explicitly created as Shao Kahn's heir]]. The fact she's so completely obsessed with pursuing a hopeless cause, with no support, [[WellDoneDaughterGirl for the approval of a dead man, who likely saw her as nothing more than a tool]], seems rather pitiable. [[spoiler:Then she gets her head devoured by insects.]]
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