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8th Mar '17 6:42:56 AM mariofan1000
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* The series finale of ''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce'' ends with [[spoiler: Frylock and Shake dead, Carl moving away, and Meatwad starting a family in a DistantFinale.]] Given how it was cancelled on the creators, and wasn't their decision, they probably aimed for this trope to make sure there wasn't a revival. This is immediately subverted when it was revealed that [[spoiler:not only was that episode not the final one to be released (the next one aired online three days later), but also it wasn't even the last one ''chronologically'' (Shake watches the events on TV and claims that they happened last week)]].

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* The series finale of ''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce'' ends with [[spoiler: Frylock and Shake dead, Carl moving away, and Meatwad starting a family in a DistantFinale.]] Given how it was cancelled on the creators, and wasn't their decision, they probably aimed for this trope to make sure there wasn't a revival. This is immediately subverted when it was revealed that [[spoiler:not only was that episode not the final one to be released (the next one aired online three days later), but also it wasn't even the last one ''chronologically'' (Shake watches the events on TV and claims that they happened last week)]]. Then again, the series ''does'' run on NegativeContinuity.
20th Feb '17 3:48:12 AM jormis29
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* The protagonist of ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' novel series gets killed with a pitchfork in the [[Literature/LadyOfTheLake last book]]. Most of named characters are already dead, are dying or will be dead soon. And just to SaltTheEarth, the whole world will also suffer a TheBlackDeath grade epidemic (which is, in fact, [[spoiler:the Black Death dragged from another world into Nilfgaard by Ciri]]). Then, [[VideoGame/TheWitcher the video game]] comes out with a continuation. The author is fairly inconsistent in his approach, though. In an interview from the Enhanced Edition of the game, Andrzej Sapkowski stated that he is fine with the games existing and views them as valid stories in the continuity... but during 2012 Polcon, Sapkowski [[FlipFlopOfGod did a U-turn]] and declared the new continuity non-canon. When he did write a book, he used Geralt, but wrote it as a prequel to the entire saga. Rather than bothering themselves over rejoicing, the fandom should accept that it's a Franchise/GhostInTheShell situation, with two separate continuities: One for the books only and one for the books and games.

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* The protagonist of ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' novel series gets killed with a pitchfork in the [[Literature/LadyOfTheLake last book]]. Most of named characters are already dead, are dying or will be dead soon. And just to SaltTheEarth, the whole world will also suffer a TheBlackDeath grade epidemic (which is, in fact, [[spoiler:the Black Death dragged from another world into Nilfgaard by Ciri]]). Then, [[VideoGame/TheWitcher the video game]] comes out with a continuation. The author is fairly inconsistent in his approach, though. In an interview from the Enhanced Edition of the game, Andrzej Sapkowski stated that he is fine with the games existing and views them as valid stories in the continuity... but during 2012 Polcon, Sapkowski [[FlipFlopOfGod did a U-turn]] and declared the new continuity non-canon. When he did write a book, he used Geralt, but wrote it as a prequel to the entire saga. Rather than bothering themselves over rejoicing, the fandom should accept that it's a Franchise/GhostInTheShell ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'' situation, with two separate continuities: One for the books only and one for the books and games.



** And just to be thorough, the authors even insisted that TSR remove Lord Soth from the ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting, then proceeded to kill ''him'' off. Not only did they torch their own franchise, they didn't even leave its Crossover character un-singed.

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** And just to be thorough, the authors even insisted that TSR Creator/{{TSR}} remove Lord Soth from the ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting, then proceeded to kill ''him'' off. Not only did they torch their own franchise, they didn't even leave its Crossover character un-singed.
14th Jan '17 9:29:59 PM sasword
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]
14th Jan '17 6:01:44 PM RGZReGZ
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* Creator/AlanMoore may or may not have wanted to prevent anyone else from using the characters from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', but its bleak ending and thorough {{Deconstruction}} of the superhero genre certainly had that effect all the same. This is the reason why the story uses {{exp|y}}ies of the CharltonComics superheroes: Moore was initially hired to write a story using the Charlton characters themselves, but DC executives looked at his first draft and realized that if they published the story they'd never be able to use the characters again. They asked him to either change the story or change the superheroes, and he changed the superheroes. ''Watchmen'' remained a standalone miniseries for over 20 years--and when DC finally did decide to make more stories in that 'verse, they commissioned the new writers to create prequels instead of attempting to continue from where ''Watchmen'' ended, and even then it's proven hugely controversial.

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* Creator/AlanMoore may or may not have wanted to prevent anyone else from using the characters from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', but its bleak ending and thorough {{Deconstruction}} of the superhero genre certainly had that effect all the same. This is the reason why the story uses {{exp|y}}ies of the CharltonComics superheroes: Moore was initially hired to write a story using the Charlton characters themselves, but DC executives looked at his first draft and realized that if they published the story they'd never be able to use the characters again. They asked him to either change the story or change the superheroes, and he changed the superheroes. ''Watchmen'' remained a standalone miniseries for over 20 years--and when DC finally did decide to make more stories in that 'verse, they commissioned the new writers to create prequels instead of attempting to continue from where ''Watchmen'' ended, and even then it's proven hugely controversial. They finally decide to just weld Dr. Manhattan (and possibly other Watchmen characters) to the mainline DC during [[DC Rebirth]], and handled by the heads of DC, ensuring that Watchmen as a franchise cannot be killed off.
14th Jan '17 12:14:18 PM Monolaf317
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]
25th Nov '16 11:51:13 PM aawood
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** For context, [[http://newsandviewsbychrisbarat.blogspot.it/2011/08/comics-review-ducktales-3-july-2011.html here]] is the ''[=DuckTales=]'' Issue 3 as covered by a blog and [[http://www.cartoonbrew.com/comics/is-this-the-worst-disney-comic-of-all-time.html here]] is the same comic as covered by Cartoon Brew.

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** For context, [[http://newsandviewsbychrisbarat.blogspot.it/2011/08/comics-review-ducktales-3-july-2011.html here]] is the ''[=DuckTales=]'' Issue 3 as covered by a blog and [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20111020022753/http://www.cartoonbrew.com/comics/is-this-the-worst-disney-comic-of-all-time.html here]] is the same comic as covered by Cartoon Brew.
9th Nov '16 8:59:08 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, the fans might finish the torching for Kojima.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, [[http://kotaku.com/dammit-konami-a-metal-gear-pachinko-game-is-really-hap-1780047257#_ga=1.110308613.162179056.1468566137 no joke, joke]], and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, the fans might finish the torching for Kojima.
9th Nov '16 8:52:56 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he might as well have torched the franchise.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he the fans might as well have torched finish the franchise.torching for Kojima.
9th Nov '16 8:51:18 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the previous games (such as the ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished. And given that future installments wouldn't have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for the best.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the previous put out more games (such as the a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished. And joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given that future installments wouldn't the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he might as well have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for torched the best.franchise.
9th Nov '16 8:47:10 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the two UsefulNotes/{{MSX}}2 games, the franchise has probably been fully finished.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the two UsefulNotes/{{MSX}}2 games, previous games (such as the ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished.finished. And given that future installments wouldn't have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for the best.
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