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14th Jan '17 9:29:59 PM sasword
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]
14th Jan '17 6:01:44 PM RGZReGZ
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* Creator/AlanMoore may or may not have wanted to prevent anyone else from using the characters from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', but its bleak ending and thorough {{Deconstruction}} of the superhero genre certainly had that effect all the same. This is the reason why the story uses {{exp|y}}ies of the CharltonComics superheroes: Moore was initially hired to write a story using the Charlton characters themselves, but DC executives looked at his first draft and realized that if they published the story they'd never be able to use the characters again. They asked him to either change the story or change the superheroes, and he changed the superheroes. ''Watchmen'' remained a standalone miniseries for over 20 years--and when DC finally did decide to make more stories in that 'verse, they commissioned the new writers to create prequels instead of attempting to continue from where ''Watchmen'' ended, and even then it's proven hugely controversial.

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* Creator/AlanMoore may or may not have wanted to prevent anyone else from using the characters from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', but its bleak ending and thorough {{Deconstruction}} of the superhero genre certainly had that effect all the same. This is the reason why the story uses {{exp|y}}ies of the CharltonComics superheroes: Moore was initially hired to write a story using the Charlton characters themselves, but DC executives looked at his first draft and realized that if they published the story they'd never be able to use the characters again. They asked him to either change the story or change the superheroes, and he changed the superheroes. ''Watchmen'' remained a standalone miniseries for over 20 years--and when DC finally did decide to make more stories in that 'verse, they commissioned the new writers to create prequels instead of attempting to continue from where ''Watchmen'' ended, and even then it's proven hugely controversial. They finally decide to just weld Dr. Manhattan (and possibly other Watchmen characters) to the mainline DC during [[DC Rebirth]], and handled by the heads of DC, ensuring that Watchmen as a franchise cannot be killed off.
14th Jan '17 12:14:18 PM Monolaf317
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'': Has been accused of this, due to a series of very controversial decisions such as [[spoiler:turning Akamatsu into a DecoyProtagonist, relying on the same murder formulas that were lampshaded an entire game ago, the ''entire'' latter part of the final trial being a combination of SelfDeprecation and TakeThatAudience that meta-accuses itself of being a CashCowFranchise and FranchiseZombie to the extreme, a bland BigBad who really isn't terribly powerful or significant, making it so that the characters, near-universally considered the series' strongest point since its inception, were just fabricated memories and personalities implanted in people who were varying degrees of ''completely'' different (and generally [[AmnesiacDissonance kind of]] [[{{Jerkass}} awful, fame-hungry people]], ironically ''except'' for the now-dead HateSink), and the game ''literally'' ending with Kiibo destroying Danganronpa before self-destructing.]]
25th Nov '16 11:51:13 PM aawood
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** For context, [[http://newsandviewsbychrisbarat.blogspot.it/2011/08/comics-review-ducktales-3-july-2011.html here]] is the ''[=DuckTales=]'' Issue 3 as covered by a blog and [[http://www.cartoonbrew.com/comics/is-this-the-worst-disney-comic-of-all-time.html here]] is the same comic as covered by Cartoon Brew.

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** For context, [[http://newsandviewsbychrisbarat.blogspot.it/2011/08/comics-review-ducktales-3-july-2011.html here]] is the ''[=DuckTales=]'' Issue 3 as covered by a blog and [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20111020022753/http://www.cartoonbrew.com/comics/is-this-the-worst-disney-comic-of-all-time.html here]] is the same comic as covered by Cartoon Brew.
9th Nov '16 8:59:08 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, the fans might finish the torching for Kojima.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, [[http://kotaku.com/dammit-konami-a-metal-gear-pachinko-game-is-really-hap-1780047257#_ga=1.110308613.162179056.1468566137 no joke, joke]], and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, the fans might finish the torching for Kojima.
9th Nov '16 8:52:56 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he might as well have torched the franchise.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to put out more games (such as a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he the fans might as well have torched finish the franchise.torching for Kojima.
9th Nov '16 8:51:18 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the previous games (such as the ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished. And given that future installments wouldn't have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for the best.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back With Kojima falling out with Konami, it certainly feels like Kojima tried this. This hasn't stopped Konami from trying to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the previous put out more games (such as the a ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished. And joke, and VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive''), but given that future installments wouldn't the backlash Konami's received over their treatment of Kojima, he might as well have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for torched the best.franchise.
9th Nov '16 8:47:10 PM kazokuhouou
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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the two UsefulNotes/{{MSX}}2 games, the franchise has probably been fully finished.

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** ''The Phantom Pain'' does this more subtly by ending at [[BookEnds the beginning of the original]] ''{{VideoGame/Metal Gear|1}}'', thereby ending the prequel saga. Barring going even ''further'' back to the time of the Cobra Unit or remakes of the two UsefulNotes/{{MSX}}2 games, previous games (such as the ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' ''pachinko'' game, no joke), the franchise has probably been fully finished.finished. And given that future installments wouldn't have Kojima's input anyway, thanks to his falling out with Konami, it's probably for the best.
26th Oct '16 9:40:43 PM PaulA
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* Done in-universe in the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'': the poet Martin Silenus, finally realizing that his profitable ''The Dying Earth'' series of books[[note]]Yes, the title is a tribute to Creator/JackVance. Now have a cookie.[[/note]] has become a brain-dead ClicheStorm, decides to just kill the thing off, completely and utterly, so that he can go and search for his "muse" and work on ''real'' poetry. (Though in fact his audience had such bad taste that the torching didn't work, but he decided to walk away and let his publishers do what they willed with it.)

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* Done in-universe in the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'': the poet Martin Silenus, finally realizing that his profitable ''The Dying Earth'' series of books[[note]]Yes, the title is a tribute to Creator/JackVance. Now have a cookie.[[/note]] books has become a brain-dead ClicheStorm, decides to just kill the thing off, completely and utterly, so that he can go and search for his "muse" and work on ''real'' poetry. (Though in fact his audience had such bad taste that the torching didn't work, but he decided to walk away and let his publishers do what they willed with it.)
26th Oct '16 9:32:37 PM PaulA
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* PeterDavid left his original run as writer on ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk'' under unpleasant circumstances. So he killed off Betty Banner in a sudden, horrific, ironically tragic, yet not really logical way (she'd been married to Bruce for ''years''. Why did she suddenly wake up covered with radiation burns one morning?), and then made his last issue an alternate future issue set many years in the future, tying off all the comic's loose ends and giving everyone a very sad but definitive ending. Paul Jenkins, the next major ''Hulk'' writer, and most of the fandom treated most of David's last issue as a WhatIf story (though Betty stayed dead [[DeathIsCheap for a few years]]).

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* PeterDavid Creator/PeterDavid left his original run as writer on ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk'' under unpleasant circumstances. So he killed off Betty Banner in a sudden, horrific, ironically tragic, yet not really logical way (she'd been married to Bruce for ''years''. Why did she suddenly wake up covered with radiation burns one morning?), and then made his last issue an alternate future issue set many years in the future, tying off all the comic's loose ends and giving everyone a very sad but definitive ending. Paul Jenkins, the next major ''Hulk'' writer, and most of the fandom treated most of David's last issue as a WhatIf story (though Betty stayed dead [[DeathIsCheap for a few years]]).
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