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* The Drylon in ''Literature/BeyondTheImpossible'': since they’ve disappeared five billion years ago, everything they’ve built is ''at least'' older than Earth [[spoiler:including the Nexus inside Noriko’s head]]. The gods are also incredibly long-lived: Vesta is a million years old, Hekate is a hundred times older, and Gaea was around at the formation of Earth.

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* The Drylon in ''Literature/BeyondTheImpossible'': since they’ve The Drylon. Since they've disappeared five billion years ago, everything they’ve they've built is ''at least'' older than Earth [[spoiler:including the Nexus inside Noriko’s Noriko's head]]. The gods are also incredibly long-lived: Vesta is a million years old, Hekate is a hundred times older, and Gaea was around at the formation of Earth.Earth.
* ''WebOriginal/BosunsJournal'': By the time of the later entries, the Bosun AI has been alive, active and aware for well over a hundred and thirty million years, and has kept careful watch over the rise and fall of entire species and ecosystems. In the DistantFinale, [[spoiler:he is nearly six billion years old, has witnessed the larger part of Terragen life's existence, and has lived to see the fusion of the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies; some of the custodians living on the ship with him are nearly as old]].
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* In ''Webcomic/ItHurts'', [[spoiler:Pasqualo ends up as this, traveling through space from present-day until the heat death of the universe.]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:They put the ''time'' in time abyss.[[note]] Fun fact. All of these races existed before or during the first microsecond of the Big Bang. [[https://www.deviantart.com/frogisis/art/Prehistory-526839392 Image]] by [[https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eaQdww Jon Lyons]][[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:They put the ''time'' in time abyss.[[note]] Fun fact. All of these races existed before or during the [[caption-width-right:350:Oh, finally. For her first microsecond of the Big Bang. [[https://www.deviantart.com/frogisis/art/Prehistory-526839392 Image]] by [[https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eaQdww Jon Lyons]][[/note]]]]four billion years, there was nothing to read.]]

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* [[spoiler:[[HumanoidAbomination Ronnie Schiatto]]]] from ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'' is implied to be this. Although he doesn't give an exact date, he does drop a mention that he's been around since ancient times.

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* [[spoiler:[[HumanoidAbomination Ronnie Schiatto]]]] from ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'' ''Literature/{{Baccano}}'' is implied to be this. Although he doesn't give an exact date, he does drop a mention that he's been around since ancient times.
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*** Bender already made a step toward becoming this in "Roswell That Ends Well". The Planet Express crew travels back to 1947, and as they return to the 31st century, Bender's head falls out the ship, being buried for a thousand years.

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*** Bender already made a step toward becoming this in "Roswell That Ends Well". The Planet Express crew travels back to 1947, and as they return to the 31st century, Bender's head falls out the ship, being buried for a thousand years. When asked what it was like to be nothing but a head completely alone for more than 1000 years, Bender's response is simply beautiful:
-->'''Bender:''' I was enjoying it until you guys showed up!
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* ''WesternAnimation/UncleGrandpa'': A one-off joke in "Jorts" reveals that Mr. Gus is ''at least'' 1.993 billion years old. Uncle Grandpa later mentions being the oldest person in the RV so he's even older than Mr. Gus.
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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' Queen Albia of England is apparently [[https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20181212 older than the English Channel]]. Since the main story takes place in the late 1800s and the channel is believed to have formed around 6500BC that would make her well over 8 millenia old.
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* FatherTime is literally as old as time itself.

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* FatherTime is literally as old as time itself.itself...[[AnthropomorphicPersonification as he's actually time.]]
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* ''Website/TheOnion'''s fictional editor-in-chief, T. Herman Zweibel, is somehow still alive at 140 years and counting, despite the innumerable ailments he suffers from. He's also an example of EvilOldFolks to rival even [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Mr. Burns]], apparently having [[BeenThereShapedHistory caused several major world events]] directly or indirectly and generally thinks of everyone else in the world as being beneath him.

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** Downplayed in ''Fanfic/{{Austraeoh}}'''. While we're never given exact ages for the elder alicorns (namely Celestia and Luna), they predate life as we know it. And they only discovered the world. [[spoiler:Whoever built it was probably even older]]. Whitemane and other lesser alicorn are also old, but note quite to that level of ancient.
** In ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/206633/- Ἐλπίς]]'' ("Elpis", Greek for "hope"), Celestia is not just older than the universe--she is so incomprehensibly, unfathomably old that she has lived through the birth and death of countless universes. Every single time the universe comes to an end, she is forced to re-experience her memories of every single universe that had ever existed up to that point, and then is given a choice: to end the universe for good, or to "try again" and start the universe over from nothing. And every single time, she chooses to restart the universe, hoping that she can prevent TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt this time. Over, and over, and over...

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** Downplayed in ''Fanfic/{{Austraeoh}}'''.''Fanfic/{{Austraeoh}}'': Downplayed. While we're never given exact ages for the elder alicorns (namely Celestia and Luna), they predate life as we know it. And they only discovered the world. [[spoiler:Whoever built it was probably even older]]. Whitemane and other lesser alicorn are also old, but note quite to that level of ancient.
** In ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/206633/- Ἐλπίς]]'' ("Elpis", Greek for "hope"), "hope"): Celestia is not just older than the universe--she universe -- she is so incomprehensibly, unfathomably old that she has lived through the birth and death of countless universes. Every single time the universe comes to an end, she is forced to re-experience her memories of every single universe that had ever existed up to that point, and then is given a choice: to end the universe for good, or to "try again" and start the universe over from nothing. And every Every single time, she chooses to restart the universe, hoping that she can prevent TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt this time. Over, and over, and over...



** In ''[[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-merely-mare.html Merely A Mare]]'', [[PhysicalGod Princess Luna]] casually mentions that she and her sister Celestia are more than four hundred million years old. Pinkie Pie, [[CloudCuckooLander being Pinkie Pie]], wonders how she'll ever fit that many candles on her birthday cake.
** ''Fanfic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'': [[spoiler:the Nightmare is old enough that it cannot even remember if it was male or female.]]

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** In ''[[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-merely-mare.html Merely A Mare]]'', a Mare]]'': [[PhysicalGod Princess Luna]] casually mentions that she and her sister Celestia are more than four hundred million years old. Pinkie Pie, [[CloudCuckooLander being Pinkie Pie]], wonders how she'll ever fit that many candles on her birthday cake.
** ''Fanfic/TheMoonstoneCup'': Amarok the giant wolf is incredibly old -- the oldest records describing him go back to the ponies' prehistoric period, making him comfortably older than Celestia and Luna and probably the oldest living being in the world.
** ''Fanfic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'': [[spoiler:the [[spoiler:The Nightmare is old enough that it cannot even remember if it was male or female.]]
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* [[FatherTime Fat]][[PhysicalGod her]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Time.]]

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* [[PhysicalGod Father]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Time.]]

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* In ''Fanfic/TheWeaverOption'', [[spoiler:Lelith Hesperax]] is revealed to just be the [[IHaveManyNames latest identity]] of a far older being. She was born Aenaria Eldanesh and is the last living Aeldari to have fought in the War in Heaven. This makes her likely the oldest mortal being in the galaxy, and potentially older than even the Chaos Gods.
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* Number 22 from ''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}'' is implied by her insanely low designation to have been around since the beginning of humanity. To put it in perspective, there is mention of soul 108 billion,[[note]] which [[ShownTheirWork is actually the approximate number of people that have lived in history,]] at least during the time that the movie was made[[/note]] which means that there were around 108 billion people who lived and died after she was conceived.

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* Number 22 from ''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}'' is implied by her insanely low designation to have been around since the beginning of humanity. To put it in perspective, there is mention of soul 108 billion,[[note]] which [[ShownTheirWork is actually the approximate number of people that have lived in history,]] history]], at least during the time that the movie was made[[/note]] which means that there were around 108 billion people who lived and died after she was conceived.
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* Number 22 from ''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}'' is implied by her insanely low designation to have been around since the beginning of humanity.

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* Number 22 from ''WesternAnimation/{{Soul}}'' is implied by her insanely low designation to have been around since the beginning of humanity. To put it in perspective, there is mention of soul 108 billion,[[note]] which [[ShownTheirWork is actually the approximate number of people that have lived in history,]] at least during the time that the movie was made[[/note]] which means that there were around 108 billion people who lived and died after she was conceived.
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** And then the 80's cartoon gave us Primacron, who in that continuity ''created'' Primus, Unicron and the Quintessons, and is still kicking around tampering with Creation in the present day.

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** And then the 80's cartoon gave us Primacron, who in that continuity ''created'' Primus, Unicron and the Quintessons, and is still kicking around tampering with Creation in the present day. To boot, he also doesn't seem to have the justification of being made of metal, appearing to be a small organic alien monkey.
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* On the same subject, PSR B1620-26 b, aka [[NamesTheSame Methuselah]] is an exoplanet roughly 2.5 times the size of Jupiter, which is believed to have outlived its original star. It's currently in orbit of a binary system consisting of a Neutron star and a white dwarf, the later believed to have once been a sun-like star and the planet's original host before both was captured by the Neutron star ages ago, said neutron star also preventing the other star from going supernova and destroying the planet when it died. While the actual age of the planet is impossible to tell, its location would imply it was formed around 12.7 billion years ago, making it the oldest exoplanet ever discovered.

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* On the same subject, PSR B1620-26 b, aka [[NamesTheSame Methuselah]] Methuselah is an exoplanet roughly 2.5 times the size of Jupiter, which is believed to have outlived its original star. It's currently in orbit of a binary system consisting of a Neutron star and a white dwarf, the later believed to have once been a sun-like star and the planet's original host before both was captured by the Neutron star ages ago, said neutron star also preventing the other star from going supernova and destroying the planet when it died. While the actual age of the planet is impossible to tell, its location would imply it was formed around 12.7 billion years ago, making it the oldest exoplanet ever discovered.
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* The very first moments of the Universe after the Big Bang fall into this trope (see [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_the_Big_Bang The Other Wiki]]). While those times from our perspective look tiny and meaningless, not so much if one notes the proportions between those epochs and compares them to the future ages of the Universe[[note]]For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroweak_epoch Electroweak epoch]] lasted from 10^-36 or 10^-32 seconds to 10^-12 seconds after the Big Bang. If we equal the 10^-43 seconds the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_era Planck era]] (the closest we can get to the Big Bang itself with our current knowledge of Physics) lasted to a year, it would have lasted from 10,000,000 or 100,000,000,000 years to ''10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000'' (10^31) years after the Big Bang.[[/note]]

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* The very first moments of the Universe after the Big Bang fall into this trope (see [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_the_Big_Bang The Other Wiki]]). While those times from our perspective look tiny and meaningless, not so much if one notes the proportions between those epochs and compares them to the future ages of the Universe[[note]]For Universe and considers more things happened by then than in the billions of years to come[[note]]For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroweak_epoch Electroweak epoch]] lasted from 10^-36 or 10^-32 seconds to 10^-12 seconds after the Big Bang. If we equal the 10^-43 seconds the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_era Planck era]] (the closest we can get to the Big Bang itself with our current knowledge of Physics) lasted to a year, it would have lasted from 10,000,000 or 100,000,000,000 years to ''10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000'' (10^31) years after the Big Bang.[[/note]]
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** When the Pyramid of Giza was completed, [[MammothsMeanIceAge mammoths]] still existed on Earth (specifically, in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_Island Wrangel Island]], a remote Arctic island currently part of UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}). In fact, they wouldn't go extinct until around 2000 BCE, a whopping five centuries later.[[note]]Please recall that five centuries before the establishment of Website/TVTropes (in 2004), UsefulNotes/HenryVII was King of England, Hernán Cortés had just arrived in [[UsefulNotes/DominicanRepublic Santo Domingo]] and was a full 15 years away from conquering Mexico, the Mughal Empire did not yet exist, Gutenberg's printing press was just about 70 years old, the Protestant Reformation was still over a decade in the future, and New York City simply did not exist in any meaningful way. Five centuries before that, [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfWessex Aethelred the Unready]] was King of England, Spain was firmly Muslim, and UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan was a full 250 years in the future.[[/note]]

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** When the Pyramid of Giza was completed, [[MammothsMeanIceAge mammoths]] still existed on Earth (specifically, in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_Island Wrangel Island]], a remote Arctic island currently part of UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}). In fact, they wouldn't go extinct until around 2000 BCE, a whopping five centuries later.[[note]]Please recall that five centuries before the establishment of Website/TVTropes (in 2004), UsefulNotes/HenryVII was King of England, Hernán Cortés had just arrived in [[UsefulNotes/DominicanRepublic Santo Domingo]] and was a full 15 years away from conquering Mexico, the Mughal Empire did not yet exist, Gutenberg's printing press was just about 70 years old, the Protestant Reformation was still over a decade in the future, and New York City simply did not exist in any meaningful way. Five centuries before that, [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfWessex Aethelred the Unready]] was King of England, Spain was firmly Muslim, and UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan was a full 250 200 years in the future.[[/note]]
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** When the Pyramid of Giza was completed, [[MammothsMeanIceAge mammoths]] still existed on Earth (specifically, in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_Island Wrangel Island]], a remote Arctic island currently part of UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}). In fact, they wouldn't go extinct until around 2000 BCE, a whopping five centuries later.

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* ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlu: The Shisno Paradox'' introduces the [[OurGodsAreGreater Cosmic Powers]], who are (essentially) gods that have been in existence since the beginning of time. Their creator, the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titan]] [[BigBad Chrovos]] is ''even older'' than them [[spoiler:thanks to a StableTimeLoop making them at least twice as old as the current universe]].

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* ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlu: ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue: The Shisno Paradox'' introduces the [[OurGodsAreGreater Cosmic Powers]], who are (essentially) gods that have been in existence since the beginning of time. Their creator, the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titan]] [[BigBad Chrovos]] is ''even older'' than them [[spoiler:thanks to a StableTimeLoop making them at least twice as old as the current universe]].



* Two of them live in ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[spoiler:Salem, the BigBad, and Professor Ozpin, the BigGood. Salem was cursed by the God of Light with CompleteImmortality, for her attempts to resurrect her love. Ozpin, meanwhile, [[BornAgainImmortality continuously reincarnates, sharing a body and soul with a new person each time]], keeping his memories and magic powers across reincarnations.]] Both are older than the world of Remnant in its current form, and even remember the world that Remnant actually is [[MeaningfulName a remnant]] ''of''.
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** Even after all the material in the Universe has decayed to its final state, the subatomic particles of which matter was once composed last effectively forever. It's recommended to take a look at this [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future Timeline of the far future]] in [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]]. [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm You Cannot Grasp the True Form]] does not even start to define it: "Although listed in years for convenience, the numbers beyond this point are so vast that their digits would remain unchanged regardless of which conventional units they were listed in, be they nanoseconds[[labelnote:*]]billionths of a second[[/labelnote]] or star lifespans[[labelnote:*]]up to trillions of years[[/labelnote]]."

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** Even after all the material in the Universe has decayed to its final state, the subatomic particles of which matter was once composed last effectively forever. It's recommended to take a look at this [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future Timeline of the far future]] in [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} [[Website/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]]. [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm You Cannot Grasp the True Form]] does not even start to define it: "Although listed in years for convenience, the numbers beyond this point are so vast that their digits would remain unchanged regardless of which conventional units they were listed in, be they nanoseconds[[labelnote:*]]billionths of a second[[/labelnote]] or star lifespans[[labelnote:*]]up to trillions of years[[/labelnote]]."
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* ''Manga/TalesOfWeddingRings'': The elven Elder, Peridot, is well over 500 years old, making her both the oldest living person in the world and the only one with firsthand knowledge of the original Ring King's war against the [[BigBad Abyss King]]. A flashback to the war shows that, beyond her skin darkening over the intervening centuries, she looks the same now as she did then.

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* ''Manga/TalesOfWeddingRings'': The elven Elder, Peridot, is well over 500 years old, making her both the oldest living person in the world and the only one with firsthand knowledge of the original Ring King's war against the [[BigBad Abyss King]]. A flashback to the war shows that, beyond her skin darkening over the intervening centuries, she looks the same now as she did then.
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* ''Film/{{Glorious}}'': Ghatanothoa has resided in the aether since the dawn of time. He acknowledges that he is a very old and very lonely god. He's very friendly though.
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* ''[[Machinima/RedVsBlue Red vs. Blue: The Shisno Paradox]]'' introduces the [[OurGodsAreGreater Cosmic Powers]], who are (essentially) gods that have been in existence since the beginning of time. Their creator, the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titan]] [[BigBad Chrovos]] is ''even older'' than them [[spoiler:thanks to a StableTimeLoop making them at least twice as old as the current universe]].

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* ''[[Machinima/RedVsBlue Red vs. Blue: ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlu: The Shisno Paradox]]'' Paradox'' introduces the [[OurGodsAreGreater Cosmic Powers]], who are (essentially) gods that have been in existence since the beginning of time. Their creator, the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titan]] [[BigBad Chrovos]] is ''even older'' than them [[spoiler:thanks to a StableTimeLoop making them at least twice as old as the current universe]].

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