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12th Apr '17 4:51:46 PM Mooncalf
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* The Letheian Mining Corporation from ''VideoGame/{{Starbound}}''. They are making a killing on erchius, a top-line spaceship fuel, despite knowing fully that reckless mining of the stuff may awaken eldritch abominations that kill everyone and/or mutate them into horrible pink blobs. When this happens at a facility, they initiate "Procedure Alpha1a: Awakening", which is to lock down the place, declare every employee involved dead, write the place off as a loss, and just move on with business.
5th Mar '17 11:55:43 AM nombretomado
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* Over at [[MarvelComics Marvel]], ComicBook/NormanOsborn, aka [[SuperpoweredEvilSide the Green Goblin]], is the poster child for this trope, along with many of IronMan's enemies, like Justin Hammer and Obadiah Stane.

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* Over at [[MarvelComics Marvel]], Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}, ComicBook/NormanOsborn, aka [[SuperpoweredEvilSide the Green Goblin]], is the poster child for this trope, along with many of IronMan's ComicBook/IronMan's enemies, like Justin Hammer and Obadiah Stane.
28th Jan '17 3:01:28 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''{{VideoGame/Syndicate}}''. There ''may'' have been aversions during the corporations' initial rise to power over the governments, but after [[TheSyndicate the syndicates]] took over the corporations using such ''[[SarcasmMode upstanding]]'' methods as bribery and murder..

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* ''{{VideoGame/Syndicate}}''. There ''may'' have been aversions during the corporations' initial rise to power over the governments, but after [[TheSyndicate the syndicates]] took over the corporations using such ''[[SarcasmMode upstanding]]'' methods as bribery and murder..
murder.
* Zigzagged all over ''Franchise/StreetFighter'', ''specially'' ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV'':
** Seth plays the trope completely straight as the CEO of S.I.N, the (former) weapons division of Shadaloo. He "indulges" in cloning, blackmailing, experimenting on himself, and the highly lethal BLECE project, which relies on ki to create {{SuperSoldier}}s.
** Averted with Ken Masters and Hakan, who apart of being powerful fighters are CEO's of their own companies and are firmly on the side of good.
7th Aug '16 5:57:04 PM nombretomado
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* In TheDCU, everyone except [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], and his CEO Lucius Fox, is villainous, from Lex Luthor to Morgan Edge, especially now that Ted Kord is dead.

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* In TheDCU, Franchise/TheDCU, everyone except [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], and his CEO Lucius Fox, is villainous, from Lex Luthor to Morgan Edge, especially now that Ted Kord is dead.
22nd May '16 8:39:51 AM MAI742
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...it can sometimes be ''bad'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''law-abiding'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in [[TheGuildedAge the USA's 'Gilded Age']] to stave off [[RedScare 'The Red Hydra']]).

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...it can sometimes be ''bad'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''law-abiding'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in [[TheGuildedAge [[TheGildedAge the USA's 'Gilded Age']] to stave off [[RedScare 'The Red Hydra']]).
22nd May '16 8:38:48 AM MAI742
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...it can sometimes be ''bad'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''law-abiding'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age' to stave off 'The Red Hydra').

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...it can sometimes be ''bad'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''law-abiding'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in [[TheGuildedAge the USA's 'Gilded Age' Age']] to stave off [[RedScare 'The Red Hydra').Hydra']]).
22nd May '16 8:37:02 AM MAI742
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...it can be ''bad idea'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''legal'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age' to stave off 'The Red Hydra').

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...it can sometimes be ''bad idea'' ''bad'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''legal'' ''law-abiding'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age' to stave off 'The Red Hydra').



This trope is incredibly common in {{Cyberpunk}} works.

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This trope is incredibly common practically ubiquitous in {{Cyberpunk}} works.
22nd May '16 8:30:09 AM MAI742
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To a certain extent this is TruthInTelevision. While pride, greed, and amorality are InherentInTheSystem this does not ''always'' translate into sadism, violence, and crime. It is not, for instance, illegal to lie about the contents of a food product in the USA (as this constitutes 'freedom of speech').

Moreover when a company is not:

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To a certain extent this is TruthInTelevision. While pride, greed, TruthInTelevision as greed and amorality are InherentInTheSystem InherentInTheSystem: the purpose of companies is to generate profits, and the purpose of management is to maximise them. ''However'', this does not ''always'' translate into sadism, violence, and crime. It This is not, for instance, illegal to lie about the contents of a food product in the USA (as this constitutes 'freedom of speech').

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...it ''can'' be bad for business for a company to engage in criminal activity or even ''legal'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age').

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...it ''can'' can be bad for business ''bad idea'' for a company to engage in criminal activity - or even too much ''legal'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age').Age' to stave off 'The Red Hydra').
22nd May '16 8:17:51 AM MAI742
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In this setting, ''all'' businessmen are some variation of the CorruptCorporateExecutive. To them, swindling customers, abusing employees, or even resorting to violence to eliminate threats to their wealth and power simply comes with the job. Either that, or it's a nice fringe benefit. Don't expect to find any {{Honest Corporate Executive}}s. Even if you think you've found one, they'll turn out to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity.

This trope ''can'' be TruthInTelevision, but just as likely not. While ''some'' businessmen are evil, deceptive, and depraved, it is extreme hyperbole to consider ''all'' of them to be so. Indeed, it is quite reasonable to argue that [[EvilWillFail evil conduct is (in the long run) bad for a business]]; would ''you'' want to do business with a baby-eating puppy-kicking psychopath?

At times, this trope overlaps with YouFailEconomicsForever.

You may note that millionaire entrepreneurs do not always fall into this trope. These people are often depicted as independently wealthy [[SelfMadeMan Self Made Men]] who have wits and spirit enough to carve out their empires, and if not, they at least are in charge and take responsibility of them, tied to them in a way a king may be to his realm. Corporate executives, on the other hand, climb in an already established hierarchy, the leadership (thus also responsibility for any wrongdoing) of which is decentralised into some shadowy group, like "the board of directors"; going back to our feudal analogy, they would have more in common with [[EvilChancellor court intriguers]].

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In this setting, ''all'' businessmen are some variation of the CorruptCorporateExecutive. To them, CorruptCorporateExecutive: not merely greedy and amoral, but actively ''evil''. For them the swindling of customers, abusing abuse of employees, or even resorting to and use of violence to eliminate threats to their wealth and power problems simply comes with the job. Either that, job - or it's a are nice fringe benefit. Don't expect to find any {{Honest Corporate Executive}}s. Even if you think you've found one, they'll turn out to be benefits. In this setting the HonestCorporateExecutive is merely a VillainWithGoodPublicity.

This trope To a certain extent this is TruthInTelevision. While pride, greed, and amorality are InherentInTheSystem this does not ''always'' translate into sadism, violence, and crime. It is not, for instance, illegal to lie about the contents of a food product in the USA (as this constitutes 'freedom of speech').

Moreover when a company is not:
* The sole company operating in that field (i.e. it does not possesses a 'monopoly')
* Able to forge effective working relationships with the other companies operating in its field (to form 'cartels' which possess an 'oligopoly')
* Able to influence or blackmail the government, press, or organised crime

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''can'' be TruthInTelevision, but just as likely not. While ''some'' businessmen are evil, deceptive, and depraved, it is extreme hyperbole to consider ''all'' of them to be so. Indeed, it is quite reasonable to argue that [[EvilWillFail evil conduct is (in the long run) bad for a business]]; would ''you'' want to do business with for a baby-eating company to engage in criminal activity or even ''legal'' chicanery and ruthlessness. Indeed, on several occasions perfectly legal exploitation and brutality has resulted in government intervention (as in the USA's 'Gilded Age').

For
puppy-kicking psychopath?

At times,
baby-eating sociopaths who openly flout the law in an otherwise perfectly nice and functional society, this trope overlaps can overlap with YouFailEconomicsForever.

You may note that millionaire Wealthy entrepreneurs are the only type of 'executive' who do not always fall into this trope. These people are often depicted as independently wealthy [[SelfMadeMan Self Made Men]] who have wits and spirit enough to carve out their empires, and if not, they at least are in charge and take responsibility of them, tied to them in a way a king may be to his realm. Corporate executives, on the other hand, climb in an already established hierarchy, the leadership (thus also responsibility for any wrongdoing) of which is decentralised into some shadowy group, like "the board of directors"; going back to our feudal analogy, they would have more in common with [[EvilChancellor court intriguers]].
8th Dec '15 6:48:19 PM Luigifan
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In this setting, ''all'' businessmen are some variation of the CorruptCorporateExecutive. To them, swindling customers, abusing employees or even resorting to violence to eliminate threats to their wealth and power simply comes with the job. Either that or it's a nice fringe benefit. Don't expect to find any {{Honest Corporate Executive}}s. Even if you think you've found one, they'll turn out to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity.

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In this setting, ''all'' businessmen are some variation of the CorruptCorporateExecutive. To them, swindling customers, abusing employees employees, or even resorting to violence to eliminate threats to their wealth and power simply comes with the job. Either that that, or it's a nice fringe benefit. Don't expect to find any {{Honest Corporate Executive}}s. Even if you think you've found one, they'll turn out to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity.



* Over at [[MarvelComics Marvel]], ComicBook/NormanOsborn, aka [[SuperpoweredEvilSide the Green Goblin]] is the poster child for this trope, along with many of IronMan's enemies, like Justin Hammer and Obadiah Stane.

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* Over at [[MarvelComics Marvel]], ComicBook/NormanOsborn, aka [[SuperpoweredEvilSide the Green Goblin]] Goblin]], is the poster child for this trope, along with many of IronMan's enemies, like Justin Hammer and Obadiah Stane.
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