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12th May '13 11:22:36 AM ultimomant

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Note that CharlesDarwin himself would not be amused by all of these guys and the way they interpreted his works; he proposed nothing of the sort. You never see a social Darwinist treating societies in the same way a real Darwinist treats species: Darwinists are interested in maintaining biodiversity and never want to wipe out an endangered (and therefore unfit) species out of spite - after all, nature already does that. Darwinism is a ''description'' of the way species work, not a ''prescription'' for what species should live and die. See [[Trivia/TheSocialDarwinist the trivia page for this trope]] for more information on that. This did not stop Social Darwinism from becoming a fairly mainstream philosophy from the Victorian era to WWII, when it became [[GodwinsLaw associated with the Nazis]]; this association contributed greatly to its loss of popularity. However, the emergence of [[CulturePolice culture war politics]] in the late 20th century appears to have revived it to a certain extent.

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Note that CharlesDarwin himself would not be amused by all of these guys and the way they interpreted his works; he proposed nothing of the sort. You never see a social Darwinist treating societies in the same way a real Darwinist treats species: Darwinists are interested in maintaining biodiversity and never want to wipe out an endangered (and therefore unfit) species out of spite - after all, nature already does that. Darwinism is a ''description'' of the way species work, not a ''prescription'' for what species should live and die. See AppealToNature for the fallacy of using science to prescribe any behaviour (moral, immoral or not), and also see [[Trivia/TheSocialDarwinist the trivia page for this trope]] for more information on that. This did not stop Social Darwinism from becoming a fairly mainstream philosophy from the Victorian era to WWII, when it became [[GodwinsLaw associated with the Nazis]]; this association contributed greatly to its loss of popularity. However, the emergence of [[CulturePolice culture war politics]] in the late 20th century appears to have revived it to a certain extent.

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29th Apr '13 1:50:31 PM MartialArtsMaster

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** Funny you should mention school, actually: according to retired schoolteacher John Taylor Gatto's multiple published works on the history of schooling, social Darwinism was actually the ''point''. School, according to him, is based on a "mudsill theory" of man in which almost everyone but a small section of humanity is considered to be worthless. So, Darwinian competitions in school to flush out the trash. It's how life in a centralized command economy works; we can complain all we want, but according to Gatto, if school ''didn't'' operate this way, the whole economic and social structure in which we now live would collapse. Ah, but there's a twist to this story: because school was based on a mish-mash of several different theories at once (Holland industrialists, aristocratic culture which is where "jock" culture comes from, various Asian "ranking" systems, etc.), it's basically escaped the purpose of its original handlers. It was supposed to keep the "underclass" down economically and intellectually, but now it's out of control so it just flushes down anyone who refuses to adapt to the school environment, which could be anybody (this, ironically, is closer to ''actual'' Darwinism).

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19th Apr '13 10:40:01 AM M84

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