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10th Feb '17 8:54:12 AM whunt
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** Still too early to tell with Flume and Kai's "Never be Like You", which did at least reach the Top 20 in the US, although that still pales compared to the Weeknd's "Starboy".

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** Still too early to tell with Flume and Kai's "Never be Like You", which did at least reach the Top 20 in the US, although that still pales compared to the Weeknd's "Starboy"."Starboy" (#10), probably the biggest hit on the countdown overall that year.
9th Feb '17 1:37:25 AM ACW
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** Adam Lambert, who despite finishing second to Kris Allen, has made quite a career for himself.

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** Adam Lambert, who despite finishing second to Kris Allen, has made quite a career for himself.himself, including touring with [[Music/{{Queen}} some band you may have heard of]].
2nd Feb '17 12:45:44 PM LaptopGuy
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** Still too early to tell with Flume and Kai's "Never be Like You", which did at least reach the Top 20 in the US.

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** Still too early to tell with Flume and Kai's "Never be Like You", which did at least reach the Top 20 in the US. US, although that still pales compared to the Weeknd's "Starboy".



** Austin Mahone, who won in 2013, was a fairly popular teen idol, but his career was held back by the continued popularity of One Direction. Thus, his career quickly fizzled out, and he himself faded into obscurity. His opponents included Music/IggyAzalea, Music/TwentyOnePilots, Music/TheWeeknd, and Music/{{Zedd}}, all of whom had considerably more success than him (although aside from Zedd they didn't immediately blow up).

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** Austin Mahone, who won in 2013, was a fairly popular teen idol, but his career was held back by the continued popularity of One Direction. Thus, his career quickly fizzled out, and he himself faded into obscurity. His opponents included Music/IggyAzalea, Music/TwentyOnePilots, Music/TheWeeknd, and Music/{{Zedd}}, all of whom had considerably more success than him (although aside from Zedd they didn't immediately blow up).up -- Azalea took off in 2014, the Weeknd in 2015, and Twenty One Pilots in 2016).
2nd Feb '17 11:09:04 AM whunt
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** Chet Faker's "Talk Is Cheap" came out victorious in 2014. It hasn't done as well as Milky Chance's third-place European smash hit "Stolen Dance" and Music/{{Sia}}'s unlikely ninth-placed hit "Chandelier". And all of ''those'' are barely a blip on the radar compared to the song that ended up in sixth-place: Mark Ronson and Music/BrunoMars' decade-defining megahit "Uptown Funk!"

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** Chet Faker's "Talk Is Cheap" came out victorious in 2014. It hasn't done as well as Milky Chance's third-place European smash hit "Stolen Dance" and Music/{{Sia}}'s unlikely ninth-placed hit "Chandelier"."Chandelier", and is arguably not even his SignatureSong, that being "Gold". And all of ''those'' are barely a blip on the radar compared to the song that ended up in sixth-place: Mark Ronson and Music/BrunoMars' decade-defining megahit "Uptown Funk!"
29th Jan '17 10:19:53 AM LaptopGuy
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* It's hard to remember that ChristinaGrimmie didn't win Season 6 of ''Series/TheVoice'' considering that she was still popular on YouTube while the two singers that placed above her disappeared as fast as Adam's beard did. DeadArtistsAreBetter gives her even more of an edge now. Of course the show has yet to see a truly successful winner; Cassadee Pope from Season 3 may be the leading success story, but Music/MelanieMartinez from that same season has also achieved considerable success after her stint on the show.

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* It's hard to remember that ChristinaGrimmie didn't win Season 6 of ''Series/TheVoice'' considering that she was still popular on YouTube while the two singers that placed above her disappeared as fast as Adam's beard did. DeadArtistsAreBetter gives her even more of an edge now.now (or would have, had it not happened the same weekend as one of the worst terrorist attacks in American history). Of course the show has yet to see a truly successful winner; Cassadee Pope from Season 3 may be the leading success story, but Music/MelanieMartinez from that same season has also achieved considerable success after her stint on the show.



** Music/SamSmith, the 2014 winner, has averted this so far. He is still far and away the most successful act to have been featured that year. This would happen again with 2015 winners Years And Years.

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** Music/SamSmith, the 2014 winner, has averted this so far. He is still far and away the most successful act to have been featured that year. This would happen again with 2015 winners Years And Years.Years (whose only rival would be the runner-up James Bay).



** Music/JustinBieber in 2010 would have been an example, had it not been for the fact that the artist who beat him was Music/{{Drake}}.



* During October of 2013, Music/JustinTimberlake's ''The 20/20 Experience - 2 of 2'' debuted at #1 on the ''Billboard 200'' with 350,000 copies sold. At #2 was Music/{{Drake}}'s ''Nothing Was the Same'', which hit #1 the week prior with sales of 658,000 and second week sales of 148,000. Below both of them was Music/{{Lorde}}'s debut album ''Music/PureHeroine'', which stalled at #3 with a debut of only 129,000. Eventually, ''Pure Heroine'' became a SleeperHit that outsold both albums in the United States and worldwide, reaching double platinum status in the U.S. alone and global sales of nearly three million. Considering that this was a debut album by a teenage girl from New Zealand and they were established superstars, that's impressive.

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* During October of 2013, Music/JustinTimberlake's ''The 20/20 Experience - 2 of 2'' debuted at #1 on the ''Billboard 200'' with 350,000 copies sold. At #2 was Music/{{Drake}}'s ''Nothing Was the Same'', which hit #1 the week prior with sales of 658,000 and second week sales of 148,000. Below both of them was Music/{{Lorde}}'s debut album ''Music/PureHeroine'', which stalled at #3 with a debut of only 129,000. Eventually, ''Pure Heroine'' became a SleeperHit that outsold both albums the former in the United States and both worldwide, reaching double platinum status in the U.S. alone and global sales of nearly three million. Considering that this was a debut album by a teenage girl from New Zealand and they were established superstars, that's impressive.



** 2008 winner Music/AmyWinehouse was the biggest name of the bunch at the time, but she died under tragic circumstances not long after her win. One of the losers that year was Music/TaylorSwift, who would go on to eclipse her in popularity during TheNewTens. Fortunately, the DeadArtistsAreBetter trope has kept her in the public eye and has kept her legacy afloat.

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** 2008 winner Music/AmyWinehouse was the biggest name of the bunch at the time, but she died under tragic circumstances not long after her win. One of the losers that year was Music/TaylorSwift, who would go on to eclipse her in popularity during TheNewTens. Fortunately, the DeadArtistsAreBetter trope has kept her Winehouse in the public eye and has kept her legacy afloat.
29th Jan '17 7:31:41 AM whunt
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** Still too early to tell with Flume and Kai's "Never be Like You", which did at least reach the Top 20 in the US.
29th Jan '17 7:23:52 AM whunt
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*** Downplayed at least in Australia. Powderfinger was always a popular act in their own country, so few would have objected to their victories at the time.
29th Jan '17 7:20:41 AM whunt
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Compare SecondPlaceIsForWinners, AwardSnub.

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Compare SecondPlaceIsForWinners, AwardSnub. Contrast DarkHorseVictory, which is often a cause of this trope.



* It's hard to remember that ChristinaGrimmie didn't win Season 6 of ''Series/TheVoice'' considering that she's still popular on YouTube while the two singers that placed above her disappeared as fast as Adam's beard did. Of course the show has yet to see a truly successful winner; Cassadee Pope from Season 3 may be the leading success story, but Music/MelanieMartinez from that same season has also achieved considerable success after her stint on the show.

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* It's hard to remember that ChristinaGrimmie didn't win Season 6 of ''Series/TheVoice'' considering that she's she was still popular on YouTube while the two singers that placed above her disappeared as fast as Adam's beard did.did. DeadArtistsAreBetter gives her even more of an edge now. Of course the show has yet to see a truly successful winner; Cassadee Pope from Season 3 may be the leading success story, but Music/MelanieMartinez from that same season has also achieved considerable success after her stint on the show.
18th Jan '17 4:58:53 PM thatother1dude
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* ''Series/AmericasNextTopModel'': Some blogs sound surprised when they talk about past winners actually getting modelling work. Every contestant leaves the show with some extra experience of an industry they want to work in and a portfolio of pictures.

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* ''Series/AmericasNextTopModel'': Some blogs sound surprised when they talk about past winners actually getting modelling work. Every contestant leaves the show with some extra experience of an industry they want to work in and a portfolio of pictures.pictures, while Tyra may decide from the beginning what kind of winner she wants and stage the competition accordingly. Picking mediocre photos on purpose, editing the film with a bias against certain contestants, eliminating girls who might pose a threat to the pre-selected winner, etc. It's pretty common knowledge that C10's Whitney won over far more modelesque Anya only because "It was about time they had a plus-sized girl win." In C12, Allison and Teyona were pretty toe to toe, but Teyona was picked to continue the pattern of [[TokenMinority a black winner every 3rd cycle.]] Tyra, despite her good intentions/[[CondescendingCompassion narcissism]], has a tendency to pick girls who will never get work in the real modeling world for one superficial reason or another. Too "old" for being over 22, too "fat" for being over 115 pounds, too "short" for being under 5'7, etc. It wouldn't be surprising at all if none of the girls from Cycle 13 (where the gimmick was that all of them were under 5'7" tall) got work after the show wrapped for the season. Because of this, agencies are hesitant or outright refuse to hire past contestants. One fashion expert mentioned that agencies just don't like being told who the "next big thing" is. Those who do find work tend to change their names to avoid the stigma.



** That's mostly because the competition is heavily rigged. [[OmniscientMoralityLicense Tyra may decide from the beginning what kind of winner she wants]] and stage the competition accordingly. Picking mediocre photos on purpose, editing the film with a bias against certain contestants, eliminating girls who might pose a threat to the pre-selected winner, etc. It's pretty common knowledge that C10's Whitney won over far more modelesque Anya only because "It was about time they had a plus-sized girl win." In C12, Allison and Teyona were pretty toe to toe, but Teyona was picked to continue the pattern of [[TokenMinority a black winner every 3rd cycle.]]
*** There's also the fact that Tyra, despite her [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation good intentions/narcissism]], has a tendency to pick girls who will never get work in the real modeling world for one superficial reason or another. Too "old" for being over 22, too "fat" for being over 115 pounds, too "short" for being under 5'7, etc. It wouldn't be surprising at all if none of the girls from Cycle 13 (where the gimmick was that all of them were under 5'7" tall) got work after the show wrapped for the season. Because of this and the reason above, agencies are hesitant or outright refuse to hire past contestants. One fashion expert mentioned that agencies just don't like being told who the "next big thing" is. Those who do find work tend to change their names to avoid the stigma.
31st Dec '16 7:19:03 PM nombretomado
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* Spain's ''Operación Triunfo'', first edition. The winner was Rosa López, who went to EurovisionSongContest and is still active in the industry. But runners ups Chenoa and David Bisbal are way more successful than her, and are the only ones known at the other side of the pond.

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* Spain's ''Operación Triunfo'', first edition. The winner was Rosa López, who went to EurovisionSongContest Series/EurovisionSongContest and is still active in the industry. But runners ups Chenoa and David Bisbal are way more successful than her, and are the only ones known at the other side of the pond.
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