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->''"I always wondered what kind of person could do such a thing. But now that I see you, I think I understand. There’s just nothing inside you. Nothing at all. You’re pathetic and sad and empty."''
-->-- '''[[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderKatara Katara]]''', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', to her mother's murderer

Contrast MinorInsultMeltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink someone to tears. Contrast also YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre and GradeSystemSnark. See also CompassionateCritic and ConstructiveCriticism. When a character applies this kind of speech to ''themself'', it's a TheReasonISuckSpeech.

Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular shows]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: themselves. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer Depression. This is the ultimate form of SelfDeprecation in a work. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist]].

Contrast MinorInsultMeltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink someone to tears. Contrast also YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre and GradeSystemSnark. See also CompassionateCritic and ConstructiveCriticism.

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Compare and contrast the NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech, which may incorporate elements of this. See also DidYouActuallyBelieve and YoureNothingWithoutYourPhlebotinum. An ArmorPiercingResponse can provide a short, but effective way of calling someone out. Put to music, this is TheDissTrack, and can become a TheVillainSucksSong or TheHeroSucksSong.

Heroes can also give defeated villains "The Reason You Suck" Speeches, often pointing out their [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood wasted potential]], their sociopathic nature and a lack of any altruistic quality, or how their obsession with [[RevengeBeforeReason defeating the hero has ruined them]], or in the case of the WellIntentionedExtremist adversary, how [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they've become everything they've fought against]], or how their [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extremes in trying to bring a better world have done more to ruin it]]. Heroic "The Reason You Suck" Speeches come out when the hero's not going to bother with the KirkSummation. Chances are they tried the diplomatic option and it didn't sink in.

One thing all seven types of speech have in common is that the speaker has a point, [[VillainHasAPoint even if they're villains]]. To give a speech about it, the speaker has to have thought it through and can usually have more than one reason why you suck. This is because the writer of the story has also thought it through. This is a sister trope to CallingTheOldManOut (or CallingTheOldWomanOut). Compare TalkingTheMonsterToDeath where this is meant to kill or [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeem]] a villain. Could also be a TakeThatScrappy where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them. This can lead to failure if the character receiving the speech CantTakeCriticism. Can also overlap with a CowardiceCallout, which is when someone calls someone else for fear-based shortcomings.

->''"[[ShoutOut I would not say such things if I WERE YOOUUU]]!!"''

Alternatively, it could take the form of EvenEvilHasStandards if the other villain did something they find [[KickTheDog completely unnecessary and appalling]]. If two or more {{Professional Killer}}s are hired to track down the heroes, a PsychoForHire can get this from a HitmanWithAHeart, who voices their disgust at the former's capacity for [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]], {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} and [[BloodKnight enjoyment of destruction and killing]], or a ConsummateProfessional, who loses patience with how their [[AxCrazy psychotic]] {{t|oThePain}}endencies draw unwanted attention and their [[ComplexityAddiction distaste]] for [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim taking the simple approach]] makes the mission needlessly complicated. If the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, the NobleTopEnforcer may drop one explaining how they were [[WeUsedToBeFriends let down by their boss]] and feel [[BrokenPedestal betrayed by the one they looked up to]] before they [[TurnInYourBadge quit]]. A DefectorFromDecadence may give one against their entire country before they leave, and if two villains team up to fight the heroes, one of them may eventually break off their partnership with one of these as a way of establishing them as the [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Lighter Shade of Black]]. Either way it can be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when the person on the receiving end [[KickTheSonOfABitch has it coming]].

** ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FamilyGuy''

One thing all seven types of speech have in common is that the speaker has a point, [[VillainHasAPoint even if they're villains]]. To give a speech about it, the speaker has to have thought it through and can usually have more than one reason why you suck. This is because the writer of the story has also thought it through. Compare to CallingTheOldManOut (or CallingTheOldWomanOut), which is often a SubTrope of this. Also compare TalkingTheMonsterToDeath where this is meant to kill or [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeem]] a villain. Could also be a TakeThatScrappy where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them. This can lead to failure if the character receiving the speech CantTakeCriticism. Can also overlap with a CowardiceCallout, which is when someone calls someone else for fear-based shortcomings.

*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/InfinityTrainBlossomingTrail
*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/SuperRWBYSisters

One thing all seven types of speech have in common is that the speaker has a point, [[VillainHasAPoint even if they're villains]]. To give a speech about it, the speaker has to have thought it through and can usually have more than one reason why you suck. This is because the writer of the story has also thought it through. Compare to CallingTheOldManOut (or CallingTheOldWomanOut), which is often a SubTrope of this. Also compare TalkingTheMonsterToDeath where this is meant to kill or [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeem]] a villain. Could also be a TakeThatScrappy where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them. This can lead to failure if the character receiving the speech CantTakeCriticism.

Heroes can also give defeated villains "The Reason You Suck" Speeches, often pointing out their [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood wasted potential]], their sociopathic nature and a lack of any altruistic quality, or how their obsession with [[RevengeBeforeReason defeating the hero has ruined them]], or in the case of the WellIntentionedExtremist adversary, how [[ThoseWhoFightMonsters they've become everything they've fought against]], or how their [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extremes in trying to bring a better world have done more to ruin it]]. Heroic "The Reason You Suck" Speeches come out when the hero's not going to bother with the KirkSummation. Chances are they tried the diplomatic option and it didn't sink in.

-->-- '''Katara''', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', to her mother's murderer

Not only has the BigBad killed your LoveInterest, slain the TeamPet, and finally [[TakeOverTheWorld taken over the world]], they must [[EvilGloating grind your self-worth into the asphalt and explain to you why you failed to stop]] their EvilPlan. This is where they lists all the reasons you are a poor excuse for a [[TheHero hero]]([[TheHeroine ine]]) and never had a prayer of stopping him: you lack the skills, the weapons and the powers needed, you [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childishly]] fight for [[GoodIsOldFashioned outdated ideals]], your [[EvilIsPetty costume is ugly]] and your {{mentor|s}} always hated you.

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One character delivers a speech to another character on all the reasons why that other character sucks or is a horrible person. There are several contexts in which this can happen.

Not only has the BigBad killed your {{Love Interest|s}}, slain the TeamPet, and finally [[TakeOverTheWorld taken over the world]], he must grind your self worth into the asphalt and explain to you why you failed to stop his EvilPlan. This is where he lists all the reasons you are a poor excuse for a [[TheHero hero]] and never had a prayer of stopping him: you lack the skills, the weapons and the powers needed, you [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childishly]] fight for [[GoodIsOldFashioned outdated ideals]], your [[EvilIsPetty costume is ugly]] and your {{mentor|s}} always hated you.

Frequently a brand of EvilGloating and/or BreakThemByTalking. In a well done speech, the Bad Guy will state things that the hero (and audience) can't argue with and when the fight is done, the hero stays troubled because the VillainHasAPoint. On the other hand, maybe they're total BS, but it's delivered with such conviction it ''almost'' makes the hero (and audience) agree that he was wrong to have dared challenge the villain in the first place.

Sometimes, it makes the point that the people the hero are trying to defend [[UngratefulBastard aren't worth the trouble]]. An especially arrogant BigBad will use this to let the hero know he's just a [[NotSoDifferentRemark lesser version of the Big Bad himself]] and the only difference is he's not saddled with morals. A villain going for a low-blow might bring up some previous encounter between the two when he overpowered the hero, as to state that the same thing will happen again. WhatYouAreInTheDark can (and often does) follow.

A hero worth his salt might respond with his own speech along the lines of a NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech or a {{P|atrickStewartSpeech}}icard or KirkSummation, among others. If it's an action movie, the hero will usually say "ShutUpHannibal" and then [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya declare what and who he is truly is]]. Sometimes the hero survives only because they're NotWorthKilling, in which case they'll invariably prove that they are later in the story. A SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if a {{Jerkass}} gives this to someone and he or she responds with a better one.

Heroes can also give defeated villains "The Reason You Suck" Speeches, often pointing out their [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood wasted potential]], their sociopathic nature and a lack of any altruistic quality, or how their obsession with [[RevengeBeforeReason defeating the hero has ruined them]], or in the case of the WellIntentionedExtremist adversary, how [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they've become everything they've fought against]], or how their [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extremes in trying to bring a better world have done more to ruin it]]. Heroic "The Reason You Suck" Speeches come out when the hero's not going to bother with the KirkSummation. Chances are they tried the diplomatic option and it didn't sink in.

Villains can also give this to other villains on an EvilVersusEvil stage. The content of this speech is usually along the lines of how they're EvilerThanThou and pointing out flaws and shortcomings in the other villain, like the MagnificentBastard chiding a SmugSnake, a CardCarryingVillain mocking a KnightTemplar for [[AtLeastIAdmitIt employing the same methods but believing their actions to be right and just]], a calculating practitioner of PragmaticVillainy berating a StupidEvil villain for being too sadistic to actually achieve anything, or in a conflict between the EvilGenius and TheBrute, have the Evil Genius mock the Brute for using brute force to compensate for his [[DumbMuscle low intelligence]] and explain his simple-mindedness makes him predictable and as such easy to beat, or the Brute pointing out how the Evil Genius [[FlunkyBoss relies on his minions]] and HumongousMecha to fight his battles and for all his [[InsufferableGenius vaunted intelligence]], he can't make any of his big schemes stick.

Alternatively, it could take the form of EvenEvilHasStandards if the other villain did something they find [[KickTheDog completely unnecessary and appalling]]. If two or more {{Professional Killer}}s are hired to track down the heroes, a PsychoForHire can get this from a HitmanWithAHeart, who voices their disgust at the former's capacity for [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]], {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} and [[BloodKnight enjoyment of destruction and killing]], or a ConsummateProfessional, who loses patience with how their [[AxCrazy psychotic]] {{t|oThePain}}endencies draw unwanted attention and their [[ComplexityAddiction distaste for]] [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim taking the simple approach]] makes the mission needlessly complicated. If the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, the NobleTopEnforcer may drop one explaining how they were [[WeUsedToBeFriends let down by their boss]] and feel [[BrokenPedestal betrayed by the one they looked up to]] before they [[TurnInYourBadge quit]]. A DefectorFromDecadence may give one against their entire country before they leave, and if two villains team up to fight the heroes, one of them may eventually break off their partnership with one of these as a way of establishing them as the [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Lighter Shade of Black]]. Either way it can be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when the person on the receiving end [[KickTheSonOfABitch has it coming]].

This speech is given by someone who's just frustrated with the other person. This is not an attempt to bring down or break an opponent. This is not an exchange between heroes and villains (heck, they might even be friends). This is someone, tired of everything they have to deal with, giving a frank and [[BrutalHonesty brutally honest]] assessment of the person they're dealing with, often in a WhatTheHellHero moment. This can be [[InsultBackfire prone to backfire]] with a suitably shallow, self-obsessed, and/or savvy target, who typically responds with [[Series/RedDwarf "You've just listed all of my best features!"]] Other times however, the one who gave the speech overreacted and says that [[WasTooHardOnHim they are too harsh and it's not really how they feel]]. Will often provoke an attempted refutation or justification from the target; which, depending on the source, can be played for comedy, drama, or {{Wangst}}. If the target is a DesignatedHero, this occurrence just might motivate him or her to become a ''real'' hero.

[[folder:A protagonist calls out themselves]]
Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular shows]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: themselves. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer Depression. This is the ultimate form of SelfDeprecation in a work. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist.]]

The indulgences of the crowd disgusts the speaker to such an extent that [[ShamingTheMob they must speak out against it.]] Calling everyone in attendance for their failures in life in a cruel but often necessary manner. If it gets meta and [[BreakingTheFourthWall is directed at the audience]], it also counts as YouBastard.

One thing all seven types of speech have in common is that the speaker has a point, [[VillainHasAPoint even if they're villains.]] To give a speech about it, the speaker has to have thought it through and can usually have more than one reason why you suck. This is because the writer of the story has also thought it through. Compare to CallingTheOldManOut. Also compare TalkingTheMonsterToDeath where this is meant to kill or [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeem]] a villain. Could also be a TakeThatScrappy where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them. This can lead to failure if the character receiving the speech CantTakeCriticism.

Contrast MinorInsultMeltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink a character to tears. Contrast also YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre and GradeSystemSnark. See also CompassionateCritic and ConstructiveCriticism.

As a last note; [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant no, this isn't the trope that's about the reasons that characters are bad at speaking. Neither is it a]] meta {{Justifi|edTrope}}cation for ThisLoserIsYou. Finally you'll find that some of these can be used to serve as DareToBeBadass speeches as well.

For a more deadly variation of this trope, see ToThePain.

->''[[Film/ThePrincessBride "I would not say such things if I WERE YOOUUU!!"]]''

*** [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/SuperRWBYSisters Super RWBY Sisters]]

** [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MarvelCinematicUniverse Marvel Cinematic Universe]]

** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FamilyGuy

->''[[Film/ThePrincessBride "I would not say]] [[BerserkButton such things if]] [[SuddenlyShouting I WERE YOOUUU!!"]]''

Contrast MinorInsultMeltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink a character to tears. Contrast also YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre and GradeSystemSnark.

** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksAThroughM