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1st Dec '16 5:52:36 PM doolas
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Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular shows]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: themselves. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer Depression. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist.]]

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Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular shows]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: themselves. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer Depression. This is the ultimate form of SelfDeprecation in a work. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist.]]
30th Nov '16 8:37:43 PM doolas
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Alternatively, the speech is given by someone who's just frustrated with the other person. This is not an attempt to bring down or break an opponent. This is not an exchange between heroes and villains (heck, they might even be friends). This is someone, tired of everything they have to deal with, giving a frank and [[BrutalHonesty brutally honest]] assessment of the person they're dealing with, often in a WhatTheHellHero moment. This can be [[InsultBackfire prone to backfire]] with a suitably shallow, self-obsessed, and/or GenreSavvy target, who typically responds with [[Series/RedDwarf "You've just listed all of my best features!"]] Will often provoke an attempted refutation or justification from the target; which, depending on the source, can be played for comedy, drama, or {{Wangst}}. If the target is a DesignatedHero, this occurrence just might motivate him or her to become a ''real'' hero.


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Alternatively, the This speech is given by someone who's just frustrated with the other person. This is not an attempt to bring down or break an opponent. This is not an exchange between heroes and villains (heck, they might even be friends). This is someone, tired of everything they have to deal with, giving a frank and [[BrutalHonesty brutally honest]] assessment of the person they're dealing with, often in a WhatTheHellHero moment. This can be [[InsultBackfire prone to backfire]] with a suitably shallow, self-obsessed, and/or GenreSavvy target, who typically responds with [[Series/RedDwarf "You've just listed all of my best features!"]] Will often provoke an attempted refutation or justification from the target; which, depending on the source, can be played for comedy, drama, or {{Wangst}}. If the target is a DesignatedHero, this occurrence just might motivate him or her to become a ''real'' hero.

!!A protagonist calls out themselves
Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular shows]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: themselves. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer Depression. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist.]]


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30th Nov '16 8:14:23 PM doolas
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10th Nov '16 11:37:16 PM azul120
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A hero worth his salt might respond with his own speech along the lines of a WorldOfCardboardSpeech or a {{P|atrickStewartSpeech}}icard or KirkSummation, among others. If it's an action movie, the hero will usually say "ShutUpHannibal" and then [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya declare what and who he is truly is]]. Sometimes the hero survives only because they're NotWorthKilling, in which case they'll invariably prove that they are later in the story. A SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if the person of the receiving end of the speech is a {{Jerkass}} who had it coming, double SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if a {{Jerkass}} gives this to someone and he or she responds with a better one.

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A hero worth his salt might respond with his own speech along the lines of a WorldOfCardboardSpeech or a {{P|atrickStewartSpeech}}icard or KirkSummation, among others. If it's an action movie, the hero will usually say "ShutUpHannibal" and then [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya declare what and who he is truly is]]. Sometimes the hero survives only because they're NotWorthKilling, in which case they'll invariably prove that they are later in the story. A SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if the person of the receiving end of the speech is a {{Jerkass}} who had it coming, double SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if a {{Jerkass}} gives this to someone and he or she responds with a better one.



Alternatively, it could take the form of EvenEvilHasStandards if the other villain did something they find [[KickTheDog completely unnecessary and appalling]]. If two or more {{Professional Killer}}s are hired to track down the heroes, a PsychoForHire can get this from a HitmanWithAHeart, who voices their disgust at the former's capacity for [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]], {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} and [[BloodKnight enjoyment of destruction and killing]], or a ConsummateProfessional, who loses patience with how their [[AxCrazy psychotic]] {{t|oThePain}}endencies draw unwanted attention and their [[ComplexityAddiction distaste for]] [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim taking the simple approach]] makes the mission needlessly complicated. If the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, the NobleTopEnforcer may drop one explaining how they were [[WeUsedToBeFriends let down by their boss]] and feel [[BrokenPedestal betrayed by the one they looked up to]] before they [[TurnInYourBadge quit]]. A DefectorFromDecadence may give one against their entire country before they leave, and if two villains team up to fight the heroes, one of them may eventually break off their partnership with one of these as a way of establishing them as the [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Lighter Shade of Black]].

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Alternatively, it could take the form of EvenEvilHasStandards if the other villain did something they find [[KickTheDog completely unnecessary and appalling]]. If two or more {{Professional Killer}}s are hired to track down the heroes, a PsychoForHire can get this from a HitmanWithAHeart, who voices their disgust at the former's capacity for [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]], {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} and [[BloodKnight enjoyment of destruction and killing]], or a ConsummateProfessional, who loses patience with how their [[AxCrazy psychotic]] {{t|oThePain}}endencies draw unwanted attention and their [[ComplexityAddiction distaste for]] [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim taking the simple approach]] makes the mission needlessly complicated. If the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, the NobleTopEnforcer may drop one explaining how they were [[WeUsedToBeFriends let down by their boss]] and feel [[BrokenPedestal betrayed by the one they looked up to]] before they [[TurnInYourBadge quit]]. A DefectorFromDecadence may give one against their entire country before they leave, and if two villains team up to fight the heroes, one of them may eventually break off their partnership with one of these as a way of establishing them as the [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Lighter Shade of Black]]. \n Either way it can be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when the person on the receiving end [[KickTheSonOfABitch has it coming]].
9th Nov '16 4:36:37 AM MinisterOfSinister
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->''"I see now -- you never belonged with us, Durotan. Our bond is iron... But ''you,'' are so. Easily. '''Broken.'''"''
-->--'''Blackhand''' to '''Durotan''', ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Warlords of Draenor''
5th Nov '16 10:58:00 PM superboy313
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Villains can also give this to other villains on an EvilVersusEvil stage. The content of this speech is usually along the lines of how they're EvilerThanThou and pointing out flaws and shortcomings in the other villain, like the MagnificentBastard chiding a SmugSnake, a CardCarryingVillain mocking a KnightTemplar villain for [[AtLeastIAdmitIt employing the same methods but claiming to be morally superior to them]], a calculating practitioner of PragmaticVillainy berating a StupidEvil villain for being too sadistic to actually achieve anything, or in a conflict between the EvilGenius and TheBrute, have the Evil Genius mock the Brute for using brute force to compensate for his [[DumbMuscle low intelligence]] and explain his simple-mindedness makes him predictable and as such easy to beat, or the Brute pointing out how the Evil Genius [[FlunkyBoss relies on his minions]] and HumongousMecha to fight his battles and for all his [[InsufferableGenius vaunted intelligence]], he can't make any of his big schemes stick.

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Villains can also give this to other villains on an EvilVersusEvil stage. The content of this speech is usually along the lines of how they're EvilerThanThou and pointing out flaws and shortcomings in the other villain, like the MagnificentBastard chiding a SmugSnake, a CardCarryingVillain mocking a KnightTemplar villain for [[AtLeastIAdmitIt employing the same methods but claiming believing their actions to be morally superior to them]], right and just]], a calculating practitioner of PragmaticVillainy berating a StupidEvil villain for being too sadistic to actually achieve anything, or in a conflict between the EvilGenius and TheBrute, have the Evil Genius mock the Brute for using brute force to compensate for his [[DumbMuscle low intelligence]] and explain his simple-mindedness makes him predictable and as such easy to beat, or the Brute pointing out how the Evil Genius [[FlunkyBoss relies on his minions]] and HumongousMecha to fight his battles and for all his [[InsufferableGenius vaunted intelligence]], he can't make any of his big schemes stick.
12th Sep '16 3:44:34 PM MinisterOfSinister
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->''"You are completely selfish and irresponsible as a father! You have no education, you have no interests, you just do whatever reckless thing you wanna do whenever you wanna do it, without regard for anyone else! And when you're not terrorizing the community with your impulsive escapades, you're being a total jerk to your family! You shove your daughter's face in your ass and you fart on it. If someone in the outside world could see the way you treat me, you would be in JAIL! Oh, this is amusing to you? Well, see if you find this funny! You're a fat, lazy, abusive, blue collared, Catholic Irish dad who drinks WAY too much and barely makes enough money to support yourself! You've lived half of your life and you have nothing to show for it! The only arguable accomplishment you've ever made is this family, and look at it! It's a disaster! You're a total and complete embarrassment in every possible way! Take a good look at yourself, Peter Griffin! '''You're a waste of a man!'''"''
-->--'''Meg''' to '''Peter''', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', "Seahorse Seashell Party"
25th Aug '16 7:18:19 PM mkmlp
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** [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicNonCanon MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic]]

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25th Aug '16 7:17:52 PM mkmlp
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** [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicNonCanon MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMgic]]

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** [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicNonCanon MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMgic]]MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic]]
25th Aug '16 7:17:25 PM mkmlp
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