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* The titular land of ''{{Ys}}'' was this until it was brought to ruin by [[ArtifactOfDoom the very artifact]] that drove it to prosperity.
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* In DrSeuss' story ''I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew'', the titular Solla Sollew is a Promised Land.
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* Israel is pretty nice when it hasn't been ecologically wrecked by marauding armies.
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**Another ''DoctorWho'' example from the first season of the new series, The Long Game: the workers on the TV satellite talk about the legendary "Floor 500", which is described as a promised land. Falls under a mix of Cynical A and B, in that there is a 500th floor of the satellite, but it's [[spoiler:full of corpses being used by the station's abominable alien overlord.]]
*''[[StargateSG1 Stargate SG-1]]'' has an episode where Maybourne learns of a PromisedLand and tricks SG-1 in to taking him to the gate that sends you there. Jack follows him through. Unfortunately for him, the message pointing him to the planet was millions of years old, and the PromisedLand stopped existing at some point in the intervening millenia.
*''[[StargateSG1 Stargate SG-1]]'' has an episode where Maybourne learns of a PromisedLand and tricks SG-1 in to taking him to the gate that sends you there. Jack follows him through. Unfortunately for him, the message pointing him to the planet was millions of years old, and the PromisedLand stopped existing at some point in the intervening millenia.
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The Promised Land is everything that it has been chalked up to be. Rivers flow with clean water and plenty of tasty fish. Fruit just falls right out of the trees, perfect for eating, the land all around you is perfect for farming, the weather is always perfect, and any Joe can make it big with just some hard work. Sadness, despair, and hard times are all but just stories and bad memories in this place. The promise of the Promised Land will be a driving force for the characters of the story, and while they face many hardships while trying to get to this place, arriving there is almost always an immediate HappilyEverAfter ending.
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The Promised Land is everything that it has been chalked up to be. Rivers flow with clean water and plenty of tasty fish. Fruit just falls right out of the trees, perfect for eating, the land all around you is perfect for farming, the weather is always perfect, and any Joe anyone can make it big with just some hard work. Sadness, despair, and hard times are all but just stories and bad memories in this place. The promise of the Promised Land will be a driving force for the characters of the story, and while they face many hardships while trying to get to this place, arriving there is almost always an immediate HappilyEverAfter ending.
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The world in which the characters live in is [[CrapsackWorld less than pleasant,]] to say in the least. [[GaiasLament The sky is choked with pollution, the crops won't grow,]] and [[EvilOverlord the evil dictator]] of the land brings nothing but despair to the people. However, there are stories of some mystical land, of which rumor and legend tell, where all people can be happy. The ground is fertile, the food is good and the best part is: you can get to it... if you know how.
This trope comes in two main flavors, the idealistic portrayal, and the cynical portrayal. The cynical portrayal can be broken down into separate flavors as well.
This trope comes in two main flavors, the idealistic portrayal, and the cynical portrayal. The cynical portrayal can be broken down into separate flavors as well.
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The world in which the characters live in is [[CrapsackWorld less than pleasant,]] to say in the least. [[GaiasLament The sky is choked with pollution, the crops won't grow,]] and [[EvilOverlord the evil dictator]] of the land brings nothing but despair to the people. However, people.
Or, on a more positive end, the world the characters live in is fine, but the characters are restless. Perhaps they are bored with their current life and want to find something better, or perhaps they are misfits in an otherwise nice world, and desire a place where they will have no worries.
Regardless of the case, there are stories of some mystical land, of which rumor and legend tell, where all people can be happy. The ground is fertile, the food is good and the best part is: you can get to it... if you know how.
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Or, on a more positive end, the world the characters live in is fine, but the characters are restless. Perhaps they are bored with their current life and want to find something better, or perhaps they are misfits in an otherwise nice world, and desire a place where they will have no worries.
Regardless of the case, there are stories of some mystical land, of which rumor and legend tell, where all people can be happy. The ground is fertile, the food is good and the best part is: you can get to it... if you know how.
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* Exodus, from TheBible, is the trope namer, showing that this trope is OlderThanDirt. Subverted slightly in modern times that the present incarnation of the Promised Land may be mostly like the trope- but only after years of labor and constant effort to ''make'' it like that and ''keep'' it that way. Also referred to as the Land of Milk and Honey, milk referring to goat's milk and honey referring to a type of date paste.
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* Exodus, from TheBible, is the trope namer, TropeNamer, showing that this trope is OlderThanDirt. Subverted slightly in modern times that the present incarnation of the Promised Land may be mostly like the trope- but only after years of labor and constant effort to ''make'' it like that and ''keep'' it that way. Also referred to as the Land of Milk and Honey, milk referring to goat's milk and honey referring to a type of date paste.
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The Promised Land is everything that it has been chaulked up to be. Rivers flow with clean water and plenty of tasty fish. Fruit just falls right out of the trees, perfect for eating, the land all around you is perfect for farming, the weather is always perfect, and any Joe can make it big with just some hard work. Sadness, despair, and hard times are all but just stories and bad memories in this place. The promise of the Promised Land will be a driving force for the characters of the story, and while they face many hardships while trying to get to this place, arriving there is almost always an immediate HappilyEverAfter ending.
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The Promised Land is everything that it has been chaulked chalked up to be. Rivers flow with clean water and plenty of tasty fish. Fruit just falls right out of the trees, perfect for eating, the land all around you is perfect for farming, the weather is always perfect, and any Joe can make it big with just some hard work. Sadness, despair, and hard times are all but just stories and bad memories in this place. The promise of the Promised Land will be a driving force for the characters of the story, and while they face many hardships while trying to get to this place, arriving there is almost always an immediate HappilyEverAfter ending.
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Can go hand in hand with LastFertileRegion, and GaiasLament, when the original location of the characters [[CrapsackWorld isn't the best in the world.]]
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and almost always, CrapsackWorld.
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The Promised Land never really existed, or it did exist, but is nothing but a shell (or even less) of its former glory. In the first case, the Promised Land was just a myth, perhaps created to give people hope of a possible better life, or from a misunderstood or distorted legend of the past. In an even more cynical viewpoint, the idea of the Promised Land created to control people in a false promise of better times with the price of submitting under a cruel rule.
The second case shows the Promised Land in disarray, either from everyone else who arrived there before the main characters using it up, or some other event. The once beautiful land is now dry and barren, with only vermin as its remaining native life, and ruins as its last structures. Regardless of the case, the revelation of the truth of the Promised Land is usually the story's big [[TheReveal reveal]], and can usually be a [[BreakTheCutie breaking moment]] [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids for the characters,]] and at its worse, a DownerEnding.
'''Cynical Flavor B - Unreachable Promised Land'''
The second case shows the Promised Land in disarray, either from everyone else who arrived there before the main characters using it up, or some other event. The once beautiful land is now dry and barren, with only vermin as its remaining native life, and ruins as its last structures. Regardless of the case, the revelation of the truth of the Promised Land is usually the story's big [[TheReveal reveal]], and can usually be a [[BreakTheCutie breaking moment]] [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids for the characters,]] and at its worse, a DownerEnding.
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The Promised Land never really existed, or it did exist, but is nothing but a shell (or even less) of its former glory. In the first case, Here, the Promised Land was just a myth, perhaps created to give people hope of a possible better life, or from a misunderstood or distorted legend of the past. In an even more cynical viewpoint, the idea of the Promised Land created to control people in a false promise of better times with the price of submitting under a cruel rule.
The second case '''Cynical Flavor A - Crappy Promised Land'''
This flavor of the trope shows the Promised Land in disarray, either from everyone else who arrived there before the main characters using it up, or some other event. The once beautiful land is now dry and barren, with only vermin as its remaining native life, and ruins as its last structures. Regardless of the case, the revelation of the truth of the Promised Land is usually the story's big [[TheReveal reveal]], and can usually be a [[BreakTheCutie breaking moment]] [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids for the characters,]] and at its worse, a DownerEnding.
For both flavor A and flavor B, usually, the revelation of the truth of the Promised Land is usually the story's big [[TheReveal reveal]], and can usually be a [[BreakTheCutie breaking moment]] [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids for the characters,]] and at its worse, a DownerEnding.
'''Cynical FlavorB c - Unreachable Promised Land'''
This flavor of the trope shows the Promised Land in disarray, either from everyone else who arrived there before the main characters using it up, or some other event. The once beautiful land is now dry and barren, with only vermin as its remaining native life, and ruins as its last structures.
For both flavor A and flavor B, usually, the revelation of the truth of the Promised Land is usually the story's big [[TheReveal reveal]], and can usually be a [[BreakTheCutie breaking moment]] [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids for the characters,]] and at its worse, a DownerEnding.
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There is some mystical land, of which rumor and legend tell, where all people can be happy. The ground is fertile, the food is good and the best part is: you can get to it... if you know how.
Reaching the promised land may require some sort of quest or journey, it may require cultural knowledge of where it is or it may be purely metaphorical, and just need an epiphany or two.
If the good guys find this place, legend says, life will be good. The bad guys, however, will want to industrialize it and exploit the promised land for financial gain.
This trope also goes hand in hand with the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. In an idealistic work, the promised land is everything that the legends promised it to be. Whereas in a cynical work, the promised land is just a myth, and in reality, it doesn't exist, and certain factors have turned it into a shadow of its once former glory. It can also exist in all its glory in an cynical work as well, however, reaching it is either simply out of the means for the characters, or comes at the price of a great cost.
Sometimes, in both idealistic and cynical works, the promised land is only a metaphor, but one or more of the characters believe it to be real. This can lead to FightingForAHomeland.
Reaching the promised land may require some sort of quest or journey, it may require cultural knowledge of where it is or it may be purely metaphorical, and just need an epiphany or two.
If the good guys find this place, legend says, life will be good. The bad guys, however, will want to industrialize it and exploit the promised land for financial gain.
This trope also goes hand in hand with the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. In an idealistic work, the promised land is everything that the legends promised it to be. Whereas in a cynical work, the promised land is just a myth, and in reality, it doesn't exist, and certain factors have turned it into a shadow of its once former glory. It can also exist in all its glory in an cynical work as well, however, reaching it is either simply out of the means for the characters, or comes at the price of a great cost.
Sometimes, in both idealistic and cynical works, the promised land is only a metaphor, but one or more of the characters believe it to be real. This can lead to FightingForAHomeland.
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The Promised Land never really existed, or it
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* ''Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri'': Some of the factions consider Planet to be this, especially when you compare it to what Earth ended up turning into before the game begins.
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* The UnitedStates for many immigrants from poorer countries (and in more recent times, any modern democratic industrialized nation.) This trope falls under both the idealistic and cynical sides of this trope. For some immigrants, they find a golden land of opportunity, for others, they find themselves in dirty slums facing violent gangs and discrimination and distrust from the native population.
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* The UnitedStates UnitedStatesOfAmerica for many immigrants from poorer countries (and in more recent times, any modern democratic industrialized nation.) This trope falls under both the idealistic and cynical sides of this trope. For some immigrants, they find a golden land of opportunity, for others, they find themselves in dirty slums facing violent gangs and discrimination and distrust from the native population.
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* The Nesting Grounds in ''{{Dinosaur}}''
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* ''HouseOfTheScorpion'': The boys under control of the Keepers in Aztlán (Mexico) view the United States as this, and one boy mentions that his father is probably currently living it up in California as a movie actor. This fact was subverted earlier in the book when El Patrón mentions that when he captures illegal immigrants for his work force, he catches them not just coming in from Aztlán, but ''from the United States,'' saying that America has seen better economic times.
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* The UnitedStates for many immigrants from poorer countries (and in more recent times, any modern democratic industrialized nation.) This trope falls under both the idealistic and cynical sides of this trope. For some immigrants, they find a golden land of opportunity, for others, they find themselves in dirty slums facing violent gangs and discrimination and distrust from the native population.
* There are stories of people running away to places like California, hoping to make it big in the movie industry, but wind up poor and penniless when they find out the difficulties of getting in.
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* There are stories of people running away to places like California, hoping to make it big in the movie industry, but wind up poor and penniless when they find out the difficulties of getting in.
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This trope also goes hand in hand with the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. In an idealistic work, the promised land is everything that the legends promised it to be. Whereas in a cynical work, the promised land is just a myth, and in reality, it doesn't exist, or certain factors have turned it into a shadow of its once former glory.
Often, the promised land is only a metaphor, but one or more of the characters believe it to be real. This can lead to FightingForAHomeland.
Often, the promised land is only a metaphor, but one or more of the characters believe it to be real. This can lead to FightingForAHomeland.
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Sometimes, in both idealistic and cynical works, the promised land is only a metaphor, but one or more of the characters believe it to be real. This can lead toFightingForAHomeland.FightingForAHomeland.
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** Are you sure? The game states that [[spoiler: It's a "wound" of the planet caused by Jenova hitting it and the buildup of the lifestream there is the planet trying to repair it's wound. Which would indicate that firing the Sister Ray into the ground and causing a huge crate would create another "promised land" (which is really just a place with an exposed lifestream)]]
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* Myth-shrouded Utopia in the ''DoctorWho'' episode of the same name.
