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19th Jul '16 12:42:56 AM Adept
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* AmateurSleuth example: [[Creator/AgathaChristie Hercule Poirot's]] personal favourite method of solving murders is the use of "the psychology". Even more so than order, method and the little grey cells. ''Cards on the Table'' provides a good example of this.
* SherlockHolmes is always profiling both clients and adversaries, usually based on tiny details he observes with the SherlockScan.

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* AmateurSleuth example: [[Creator/AgathaChristie Hercule Poirot's]] personal favourite method of solving Literature/HerculePoirot deduces the truth behind the murders is by matching the use psychology of "the psychology". Even more so than order, method and the little grey cells. ''Cards on crime to the Table'' provides a good example psychology of this.
the criminal/suspects.
* SherlockHolmes Literature/SherlockHolmes is always profiling both clients and adversaries, usually based on tiny details he observes with the SherlockScan.
30th May '16 10:10:45 AM karstovich2
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* In one episode of ''Series/TheWire'', Detectives [=McNulty=] and Greggs consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of [=McNulty=], who has been taking the bodies of non-homicide homeless and dressing them up to look like they had been killed by a serial killer, in a scheme he had cooked up to get funding for a major drugs/corruption investigation]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:

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* In one episode of ''Series/TheWire'', Detectives [=McNulty=] and Greggs consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of [=McNulty=], who has been taking the bodies of non-homicide homeless people who ''hadn't'' actually been murdered, and dressing them up to look like they had been killed by a serial killer, in all as part of a scheme he had cooked up to get funding for a major drugs/corruption investigation]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:
30th May '16 10:06:47 AM karstovich2
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* In one episode of ''Series/TheWire'', the detectives consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of one of the detectives, cooked up to get funding for another case]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:

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* In one episode of ''Series/TheWire'', the detectives Detectives [=McNulty=] and Greggs consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of one of [=McNulty=], who has been taking the detectives, bodies of non-homicide homeless and dressing them up to look like they had been killed by a serial killer, in a scheme he had cooked up to get funding for another case]], a major drugs/corruption investigation]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:
27th May '16 3:28:23 AM MacronNotes
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* Ally Walker as "Dr. Sam Waters", the title character of ''Series/{{Profiler}}'', was able to reconstruct killer flashbacks in her head. One of Walker's rare non-[[BlondesAreEvil evil blonde]] roles.

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* Ally Walker as "Dr. Sam Waters", the title character of ''Series/{{Profiler}}'', was able to reconstruct killer flashbacks in her head. One of Walker's rare non-[[BlondesAreEvil evil blonde]] non-evil blonde roles.
7th Mar '16 9:57:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* In one episode of ''TheWire'', the detectives consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of one of the detectives, cooked up to get funding for another case]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:

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* In one episode of ''TheWire'', ''Series/TheWire'', the detectives consult the FBI's profiling unit at Quantico to try and catch "The Red-Ribbon Killer", who has been preying on the homeless of Baltimore. [[spoiler: Since the "killer" is in fact an invention of one of the detectives, cooked up to get funding for another case]], the profile ends up describing ''him'' perfectly:



* Tony Hill in ''WireInTheBlood'' functions in this capacity, though he has often made a point of correcting people who refer to him as a "profiler".

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* Tony Hill in ''WireInTheBlood'' ''Series/WireInTheBlood'' functions in this capacity, though he has often made a point of correcting people who refer to him as a "profiler".
21st Feb '16 11:11:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lance Henriksen as "Frank Black" in ''Series/{{Millennium}}''.

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* ''Series/{{Millennium}}'': Lance Henriksen stars as "Frank Black" ex-FBI agent turned FBI consultant Frank Black, who would frequently share his thoughts on elusive killers with his old colleagues. The first season was ambiguous whether Frank's insights [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane were just a keen sense of intuition or were actually supernatural in ''Series/{{Millennium}}''.origin]]. Later seasons make these visions unambiguously psychic, however.
21st Feb '16 11:07:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* Will Graham in ''Film/{{Manhunter}}'' and its remake, ''Film/RedDragon''. This is the man who captured Hannibal Lecter.
** Of course we would be remiss if we didn't mention [[Literature/RedDragon the original novel]]. It's so much easier to get into a character's head that way.

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* ''Franchise/HannibalLecter'':
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Will Graham in ''Film/{{Manhunter}}'' and its remake, ''Film/RedDragon''. This is the man who captured Hannibal Lecter.
** Of course we would be remiss if we didn't mention [[Literature/RedDragon the original novel]]. It's so much easier to get into a character's head that way.
Lecter.



* In ''Series/TheXFiles'', Mulder's original forte before he found the title case files and went onto the supernatural tangent that made up his career from then on.

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* In ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''Series/TheXFiles'':
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Mulder's original forte before he found the title case files and went onto the supernatural tangent that made up his career from then on.



* The entire main cast of ''Series/CriminalMinds'', except for JJ, who is the media liaison, and Garcia, who is the technical analyst (read: computer person), though JJ becomes one in the 7th season and Garcia in the 6th inherited some of her media work.
** They, at least, are more or less realistic about what is possible.
*** One first-season episode had them get suspicious when the profile hit the mark ''too closely''. It turned out the real killer was playing them.
*** Several episodes have also shown them to be wrong with their profiles because of a critical factor they overlooked/weren't aware of.
** Some of their leaps of logic are still quite far-fetched though, especially in later seasons and ''especially'' when they accurately profile unique or bizarre psychoses. They also go on arrests and conduct interrogations, which real life profilers ''do not do''. Profiles is more or less used to rule out suspects as well as find them, although they can advise detectives and prosecutors how to conduct interrogations. They ''can'', however, testify in court, although they were originally barred from doing so.
** Also notable, most of the team are not psychologists- Hotch studied Law and used to be a prosecutor, Pretniss is [[spoiler: ex-CIA]], JJ as mentioned was media liason, Rossi (a co-founder of the unit) has a military background, and Reid ''does'' have a psychology degree, but it's [[ImprobablyHighIQ only one in his collection, and is only a B.A., even though he has three doctorates in hard sciences.]]

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* The entire main cast of ''Series/CriminalMinds'', except for JJ, who is the media liaison, and Garcia, who is the technical analyst (read: computer person), though JJ becomes one in the 7th season and Garcia in the 6th inherited some of her media work.
** They, at least, are more or less realistic about what is possible.
*** One first-season episode had them get suspicious when the profile hit the mark ''too closely''. It turned out the real killer was playing them.
*** Several episodes have also shown them to be wrong with their profiles because of a critical factor they overlooked/weren't aware of.
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work. Some of their leaps of logic are still quite far-fetched though, especially in later seasons and ''especially'' when they accurately profile unique or bizarre psychoses. They also go on arrests and conduct interrogations, which real life profilers ''do not do''. Profiles is more or less used to rule out suspects as well as find them, although they can advise detectives and prosecutors how to conduct interrogations. They ''can'', however, testify in court, although they were originally barred from doing so.
** Also notable, most of the team are not psychologists- Hotch studied Law and used to be a prosecutor, Pretniss is [[spoiler: ex-CIA]], JJ as mentioned was media liason, Rossi (a co-founder of the unit) has a military background, and Reid ''does'' have a psychology degree, but it's [[ImprobablyHighIQ only one in his collection, and is only a B.A., even though he has three doctorates in hard sciences.]]
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** From the sequel series ''Series/AshesToAshes'', Alex Drake herself is this and she's adamant about using her skills in investigations, to [[OldFashionedCopper Hunt]]'s dismay.
* Dr. Sweets on ''Series/{{Bones}}'' is initially brought on to mediate the Brennan/Booth relationship, but also works with them as a occasional forensic psychologist. In one episode he details his extensive education, including multiple doctorates, one of which probably gave him the training for this kind of work.

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** * From the sequel series ''Series/AshesToAshes'', Alex Drake herself is this and she's adamant about using her skills in investigations, to [[OldFashionedCopper Hunt]]'s dismay.
* ''Series/{{Bones}}'':
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Dr. Sweets on ''Series/{{Bones}}'' is initially brought on to mediate the Brennan/Booth relationship, but also works with them as a occasional forensic psychologist. In one episode he details his extensive education, including multiple doctorates, one of which probably gave him the training for this kind of work. Unlike a typical TV profiler, Sweets also almost never goes in the field. He also doesn't usually question suspects but merely stands on the other side of the one-way mirror to give suggestions to Booth in the interrogation room via an earpiece. In his first episode as a profiler, he visits the Jeffersonian forensic anthropology lab and is excited to be "in the field". When they point out that this isn't "the field", he tells them that it is for him, since he spends most of his time in an office.



** Unlike a typical TV profiler, Sweets also almost never goes in the field. He also doesn't usually question suspects but merely stands on the other side of the one-way mirror to give suggestions to Booth in the interrogation room via an earpiece. In his first episode as a profiler, he visits the Jeffersonian forensic anthropology lab and is excited to be "in the field". When they point out that this isn't "the field", he tells them that it is for him, since he spends most of his time in an office.
* In the first season of ''Series/{{Dexter}}'', the Miami PD finds a woman's corpse and Debra (believing it the work of a serial killer) attempts to write up a profile of the killer. When she shows it to Dexter, he says it seems rather basic and uninformative [[spoiler: to hide the fact that the profile does contain a few accurate assumptions about the killer, who is himself]]. Dexter also occasionally shows degrees of this (even though his actual job is forensic blood splatter analysis) when he adds his opinion of what was motivating a killer based off the types of wounds caused by the blood splatter.

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* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'':
** Unlike a typical TV profiler, Sweets also almost never goes in the field. He also doesn't usually question suspects but merely stands on the other side of the one-way mirror to give suggestions to Booth in the interrogation room via an earpiece. In his first episode as a profiler, he visits the Jeffersonian forensic anthropology lab and is excited to be "in the field". When they point out that this isn't "the field", he tells them that it is for him, since he spends most of his time in an office.
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In the first season of ''Series/{{Dexter}}'', season, the Miami PD finds a woman's corpse and Debra (believing it the work of a serial killer) attempts to write up a profile of the killer. When she shows it to Dexter, he says it seems rather basic and uninformative [[spoiler: to hide the fact that the profile does contain a few accurate assumptions about the killer, who is himself]]. Dexter also occasionally shows degrees of this (even though his actual job is forensic blood splatter analysis) when he adds his opinion of what was motivating a killer based off the types of wounds caused by the blood splatter.



** It's implied that [[spoiler: Watson]] had this as a psychic ability and Will has it to a lesser degree as a normal person.
** A later episode implies that Will's expertise was more of a bonus than a requirement, when a flashback reveals that Will's IdenticalGrandfather gave his life to save Magnus's life during WorldWarTwo.
17th Jan '16 10:48:56 AM nombretomado
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* Vincent D'Onofrio's character in ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' would fit here. From the main LawAndOrder series, one of the early seasons had the NYPD work up a profile of a suspect who was randomly targeting and shooting African-Americans. The profile seems to net them their killer, but the suspect's attorney uses all the ways his client ''doesn't'' match it, along with the lack of non-circumstantial evidence, to get a Judge to release him. Turns out, the police were right, he ''was'' the killer, and he manages to strike again after his release. Fortunately, his would-be victim guns ''him'' down instead.

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* Vincent D'Onofrio's character in ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' would fit here. From the main LawAndOrder ''Series/LawAndOrder'' series, one of the early seasons had the NYPD work up a profile of a suspect who was randomly targeting and shooting African-Americans. The profile seems to net them their killer, but the suspect's attorney uses all the ways his client ''doesn't'' match it, along with the lack of non-circumstantial evidence, to get a Judge to release him. Turns out, the police were right, he ''was'' the killer, and he manages to strike again after his release. Fortunately, his would-be victim guns ''him'' down instead.



* Emil Skoda, George Huang, and Rebecca Hendrix of ''LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''.

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* Emil Skoda, George Huang, and Rebecca Hendrix of ''LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''.''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''.
11th Jan '16 11:48:59 AM 69BookWorM69
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* ''Series/MurdochMysteries'':
** Dr. Roberts is a psychiatrist who runs an insane asylum in Toronto. Murdoch sometimes consults him when he needs to know about the psychology of a killer
** Later in the series, Dr. Ogden studies psychiatry and provides Murdoch with psychological perspective on criminals and witnesses.
31st Dec '15 10:11:40 PM jormis29
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* Although never described as one, Patrick Jane of ''TheMentalist'' uses profiling tactics routinely to play criminals- and everyone else, for that matter- into his hands.
* Elizabeth Keen of ''TheBlacklist'' is explicitly described as this, although she doesn't seem to use her talents as often as she should. It could be understandable since she's still new to the job in Season One.

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* Although never described as one, Patrick Jane of ''TheMentalist'' ''Series/TheMentalist'' uses profiling tactics routinely to play criminals- and everyone else, for that matter- into his hands.
* Elizabeth Keen of ''TheBlacklist'' ''Series/TheBlacklist'' is explicitly described as this, although she doesn't seem to use her talents as often as she should. It could be understandable since she's still new to the job in Season One.
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