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5th Nov '17 6:21:52 PM JulianLapostat
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* Pre-Qin Dynasty China rarely shows up unless regarding Confucius (The "Spring and Autumn" era)
* The Hellenistic world, formed in the wake of UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat and the UsefulNotes/MacedonianSuccessionWars is a fascinating era of scientific advances, syncretic cultures, the beginnings of the non-theistic model of the universe, war on a massive scale, treachery, debauchery, terror, beauty, the first massive clash of monotheism and polytheism, when Jews ere invited to Alexandria by the Ptolemaics, resulting in a fertile back-and-forth (and at times violent) debates that led to the birth of Neoplatonism and UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}}, while Hellenists and Buddhists traded notes on sculpture in Bactria and Northern-India starting the great age of Buddhisht sculpture. Unless you count ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'', it's a complete media blackout:

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* Pre-Qin '''Pre-Qin Dynasty China China''' rarely shows up unless regarding Confucius (The "Spring and Autumn" era)
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* The '''The Hellenistic world, World''', formed in the wake of UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat and the UsefulNotes/MacedonianSuccessionWars is a fascinating era of scientific advances, syncretic cultures, the beginnings of the non-theistic model of the universe, war on a massive scale, treachery, debauchery, terror, beauty, the first massive clash of monotheism and polytheism, when Jews ere invited to Alexandria by the Ptolemaics, resulting in a fertile back-and-forth (and at times violent) debates that led to the birth of Neoplatonism and UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}}, while Hellenists and Buddhists traded notes on sculpture in Bactria and Northern-India starting the great age of Buddhisht sculpture. Unless you count ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'', it's a complete media blackout:
5th Nov '17 6:20:55 PM JulianLapostat
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* The Hellenistic world is a fascinating era of scientific advances, syncretic cultures, the beginnings of the non-theistic model of the universe, war on a massive scale, treachery, debauchery, terror, beauty, the first massive clash of monotheism and polytheism, and, unless you count ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'', a complete media blackout.

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* The Hellenistic world world, formed in the wake of UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat and the UsefulNotes/MacedonianSuccessionWars is a fascinating era of scientific advances, syncretic cultures, the beginnings of the non-theistic model of the universe, war on a massive scale, treachery, debauchery, terror, beauty, the first massive clash of monotheism and polytheism, and, unless when Jews ere invited to Alexandria by the Ptolemaics, resulting in a fertile back-and-forth (and at times violent) debates that led to the birth of Neoplatonism and UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}}, while Hellenists and Buddhists traded notes on sculpture in Bactria and Northern-India starting the great age of Buddhisht sculpture. Unless you count ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'', it's a complete media blackout.blackout:
** C. P. Cavafy, the famous Greek-language poet who lived in 19th and early 20th Century Egypt wrote many poems about the Hellenistic Age, such as "The Satrapy, In 200 BC, The God Abandons Antony" and others which mostly celebrated this area as the true GoldenAge of UsefulNotes/{{Greece}}.



** There are also of course several plays, films etc. about Cleopatra VII Philopater, the last Ptolemaic Queen of Egypt.

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** There are also of course several plays, films etc. about Cleopatra VII UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII Philopater, the last Ptolemaic Queen of Egypt.Egypt, and films about her usually confuse and baffle people for its context and situation ("[[RecycledInSpace Greeks in Egypt]]") being the big one.
2nd Nov '17 11:52:33 AM JulianLapostat
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* With the Ancient Greeks, Athens and Sparta are featured, along with some of their neighbors. The thousand or so colonies scattered around the whole Mediterranean? Hardly ever.
* '''The Etruscans''', who served as TheRival to the early Roman Republic and, at sea, the cities of 'Magna Graecia'. Despite the vast cultural and technological influence they had on Rome, the trading and naval power that spread across the Mediterranean, the military power wielded in central and northern Italy up until the 3rd century BC, and their enduring reputation as being exceptionally pious and for producing the very best [[{{Seers}} diviners and haruspices]] which lasted well into the fourth century AD, they're almost entirely anonymous, even among historians, and if they're brought up at all, it's usually in reference to the mystery of their supposedly indecipherable language (which somehow contrives to be non-Indo-European) and as a result, their origins, despite the fact that their language can be read (not very well, admittedly, but it can be read).
* The UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts, if at all, are almost exclusively invoked in connection with the Life of Jesus Christ (and [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Brian]]) and the rise of Christianity, which sprang as a consequence. Such fascinating figures as Flavius Josephus, Simon Bar Khokba, the Sicarii (aka the OG Ninja and Asasiyun) and events like the fall of Jerusalem and the siege of Masada are almost never featured in HistoricalFiction, separate from the Life of Christ.
* The Christian Roman Empire (Not to be confused with the UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire -- Charlemagne ''et al''). In the last days of UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire, Christianity was on the rise. Fear of persecution, invasions from outsiders, and the quickly deteriorating interior was forcing the empire to give up more and more power to the religious figures and the land owners. In order to try and stabilize the empire, it was divided into two sections: East and West. The East would eventually become the Byzantine Empire, and would survive for another millennium. The west would continue to break apart and spend the next 300 years fighting either the Byzantines or the Muslims, before steadily coalescing and re-coalescing into variations on the UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire. In fiction, it's depicted either as if there was no difference at all to pre-Christian Rome, or teeming with {{Corrupt Church}}men who run the place as if it belonged to them.

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* With the Ancient Greeks, Athens and Sparta are featured, along with some of their neighbors. The thousand or so colonies scattered around the whole Mediterranean? Hardly ever.
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ever. Important and interesting characters get neglected as a result.
** ''King Juba II of Numidia'', was a Berber Prince taken as a hostage by UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar back to Rome, during which time he was raised alongside Caesar's household, fought alongside him in his wars, became bros with UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}, wrote important books on Roman archeology at the age of 20, married the daughter of UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII and Mark Antony after their defeat, and continued to work as an important scholar, researcher, and patron of arts and sciences for decades. Pliny the Elder cites him 65 times in his proto-encyclopedia "Natural History", and Plutarch in his ''Literature/ParallelLives'' calls him one of the smartest rulers of his time. It took the 2015 historical novel "The Shards of Heaven" by Michael Livingston for him to finally became a leading character.
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'''The Etruscans''', who served as TheRival to the early Roman Republic and, at sea, the cities of 'Magna Graecia'. Despite the vast cultural and technological influence they had on Rome, the trading and naval power that spread across the Mediterranean, the military power wielded in central and northern Italy up until the 3rd century BC, and their enduring reputation as being exceptionally pious and for producing the very best [[{{Seers}} diviners and haruspices]] which lasted well into the fourth century AD, they're almost entirely anonymous, even among historians, and if they're brought up at all, it's usually in reference to the mystery of their supposedly indecipherable language (which somehow contrives to be non-Indo-European) and as a result, their origins, despite the fact that their language can be read (not very well, admittedly, but it can be read).
* The UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts, if at all, are almost exclusively invoked in connection with the Life of Jesus Christ (and [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Brian]]) and the rise of Christianity, which sprang as a consequence. Such fascinating figures as Flavius Josephus, Simon Bar Khokba, the Sicarii (aka the OG Ninja and Asasiyun) and events like the fall of Jerusalem and the siege of Masada are almost never featured in HistoricalFiction, separate from the Life of Christ.
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** The Christian Roman Empire (Not to be confused with the UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire -- Charlemagne ''et al''). In the last days of UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire, Christianity was on the rise. Fear of persecution, invasions from outsiders, and the quickly deteriorating interior was forcing the empire to give up more and more power to the religious figures and the land owners. In order to try and stabilize the empire, it was divided into two sections: East and West. The East would eventually become the Byzantine Empire, and would survive for another millennium. The west would continue to break apart and spend the next 300 years fighting either the Byzantines or the Muslims, before steadily coalescing and re-coalescing into variations on the UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire. In fiction, it's depicted either as if there was no difference at all to pre-Christian Rome, or teeming with {{Corrupt Church}}men who run the place as if it belonged to them.


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* The UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts, if at all, are almost exclusively invoked in connection with the Life of Jesus Christ (and [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Brian]]) and the rise of Christianity, which sprang as a consequence. Such fascinating figures as Flavius Josephus, Simon Bar Khokba, the Sicarii (aka the OG Ninja and Asasiyun) and events like the fall of Jerusalem and the siege of Masada are almost never featured in HistoricalFiction, separate from the Life of Christ.
9th Sep '17 3:03:37 PM nombretomado
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*** ''Spring Pearl: The Last Flower'' in the discontinued ''[[Franchise/AmericanGirlsCollection Girls of Many Lands]]'' collection is about a teenage girl during this time.

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*** ''Spring Pearl: The Last Flower'' in the discontinued ''[[Franchise/AmericanGirlsCollection ''[[Literature/AmericanGirlsCollection Girls of Many Lands]]'' collection is about a teenage girl during this time.
8th Sep '17 5:48:46 AM Wuz
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** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' focuses an entire DLC on this front, ''In the Name of the Tsar'', and also includes depictions of the Russian Civil War in the DLC (see below).



** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' includes an entire DLC focusing on the French armed forces, ''They Shall Not Pass''.



** ''Siege of Fort Bismark'' is an adventure-comedy dealing with the battle for Fort Chintao.

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** ''Siege of Fort Bismark'' is an adventure-comedy dealing with the battle for Fort Chintao.f.



*** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' features this in its fourth and fifth War Stories. "The Runner" is set during the Gallipoli landing and follows an Australian battalion, while "Nothing is Written" is in the Arabian desert and follows T.E. Lawrence's attempt to rally a Bedouin tribe to fight back against the Ottomans and their [[CoolTrain super-armored train of rolling death.]] That train never existed in real life, by the way.

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*** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' features this in its fourth and fifth War Stories. "The Runner" is set during the Gallipoli landing and follows an Australian battalion, while "Nothing is Written" is in the Arabian desert and follows T.E. Lawrence's attempt to rally a Bedouin tribe to fight back against the Ottomans and their [[CoolTrain super-armored train of rolling death.]] That train never existed in real life, by the way. Meanwhile, three maps in the multiplayer (Fao Fortress, Suez, and Sinai Desert) form the Oil of Empires Operation, representing the front in multiplayer gameplay.



*** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' again comes to the rescue with its third War Story "Avanti Savoia!" focusing on an Italian Arditi unit's assault on an Austro-Hungarian fortress.

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*** ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' again comes to the rescue with its third War Story "Avanti Savoia!" focusing on an Italian Arditi unit's assault on an Austro-Hungarian fortress. The maps in the multiplayer Operation "Iron Walls" (Monte Grappa and Empire's Edge) are also focusing on this front.


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*** In a surprise move, ''VideoGame/Battlefield1'' included this part of history in its ''In the Name of the Tsar'' DLC, which was previously thought to only have focused on the Eastern Front. Two Russian Civil War maps are included (Volga River and Tsaritsyn), bundled in an Operation called "Red Tide".
4th Sep '17 1:27:32 PM Random888
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* Explicitly averted by the 2017 ''[[Film/WonderWoman2017 Wonder Woman]]'' film, which traded the character's traditional WWII-set origin story for a WWI-set origin story. After its domestic opening weekend, ''Wonder Woman'' became the highest grossing WWI film ever made.

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* ** Explicitly averted by the 2017 ''[[Film/WonderWoman2017 Wonder Woman]]'' film, which traded the character's traditional WWII-set origin story for a WWI-set origin story. After its domestic opening weekend, ''Wonder Woman'' became the highest grossing WWI film ever made.
4th Sep '17 1:27:07 PM Random888
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* Explicitly averted by the 2017 ''[[Film/WonderWoman2017 Wonder Woman]]'' film, which traded the character's traditional WWII-set origin story for a WWI-set origin story. After its domestic opening weekend, ''Wonder Woman'' became the highest grossing WWI film ever made.
26th Aug '17 9:26:13 AM jamespolk
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*** Another Russian film is ''The Dawns Here are Quiet'', in which a small group of Soviet trainees in Karelia (near the Finnish border) have to fend off a larger German paratrooper force.

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*** Another Russian film is ''The Dawns Here are Quiet'', ''Film/TheDawnsHereAreQuiet'', in which a small group of Soviet trainees in Karelia (near the Finnish border) have to fend off a larger German paratrooper force.force.
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*** ''Theatre/ThereShallBeNoNight'' is a UsefulNotes/PulitzerPrize-winning play about the Winter War of 1939-40, centering on a family of Finns torn apart by the Soviet invasion. Notably, it was written as the Winter War was actually happening, before the Finns allied themselves with the Nazis and spoiled the DavidVersusGoliath story a bit.
11th Aug '17 8:34:13 PM jormis29
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*** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' and its DLC ''Freedom Cry'' address the existence of the Atlantic Slave Trade across the Caribbean (Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti): the Royal African Company, Maroon Rebels, fugitive slaves on pirate ships and the collusion of several empires in the slave trade.

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*** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' and its DLC ''Freedom Cry'' ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedFreedomCry Freedom Cry]]'' address the existence of the Atlantic Slave Trade across the Caribbean (Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti): the Royal African Company, Maroon Rebels, fugitive slaves on pirate ships and the collusion of several empires in the slave trade.



*** The first few memory sequences in ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII Assassin's Creed 3]]'' take place during the French and Indian War, as does ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRogue''. Likewise, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIIILiberation'' takes place in French Louisiana and ''Freedom Cry'' and pre-revolutionary Haiti.

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*** The first few memory sequences in ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII Assassin's Creed 3]]'' take place during the French and Indian War, as does ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRogue''. Likewise, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIIILiberation'' takes place in French Louisiana and ''Freedom Cry'' ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedFreedomCry Freedom Cry]]'' and pre-revolutionary Haiti.
22nd Jul '17 12:01:11 PM MagnusForce
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*** ''Series/WalkingWithBeasts'' is a fake nature documentary about some of the cooler prehistoric animals.
* Although the Mesozoic period as a whole is rather well-represented, the Triassic period is left mostly forgotten. The mid-Jurassic and the late-Cretaceous are where most StockDinosaurs come from.

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*** ''Series/WalkingWithBeasts'' is a fake nature documentary about some of the cooler prehistoric animals.
''[[Series/WalkingWithDinosaurs Walking With Beasts]]'' covers several creatures from this period.
* Although the Mesozoic period as a whole is rather well-represented, the Triassic period is left mostly forgotten. The mid-Jurassic late-Jurassic and the late-Cretaceous are where most StockDinosaurs come from.



*** ''Series/PrehistoricPark'' featured a Carboniferous creature, Meganeura (a giant dragonfly). It had to be kept in a special oxygenated room due to the changes in the Earth's atmosphere since then.

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*** ''Series/PrehistoricPark'' featured a some Carboniferous creature, creatures: Meganeura (a giant dragonfly). It dragonfly), Arthropleura (a giant milipede), and Pulmonoscorpius (a giant scorpion). They had to be kept in a special oxygenated room due to the changes in the Earth's atmosphere since then.then.
*** ''[[Series/WalkingWithDinosaurs Walking With Monsters]]'' covers this era, though not quite to the extent that ''Walking With Dinosaurs'' and ''Walking With Beasts'' did with the Mesozoic and Cenozoic.
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