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6th May '16 6:52:10 PM nombretomado
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* GaiaOnline's "Sainte Ciel" Evolving Item told the story of a nun trying to rescue the princess she loved from an evil demon. You could choose between Eros and Agape routes; if you chose Eros, Ciel would [[MoreThanMindControl succumb to the demon Mephiste's temptations]].
* In ''WorldOfWarcraft'' lore, the succubi seem to be motivated by this; there's an alarming frequency of succubi falling in love with their summoners and becoming insanely possessive of them.

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* GaiaOnline's Website/GaiaOnline's "Sainte Ciel" Evolving Item told the story of a nun trying to rescue the princess she loved from an evil demon. You could choose between Eros and Agape routes; if you chose Eros, Ciel would [[MoreThanMindControl succumb to the demon Mephiste's temptations]].
* In ''WorldOfWarcraft'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' lore, the succubi seem to be motivated by this; there's an alarming frequency of succubi falling in love with their summoners and becoming insanely possessive of them.



* GaiaOnline's "Sainte Ciel" Evolving Item told the story of a nun trying to rescue the princess she loved from an evil demon. You could choose between Eros and Agape routes; if you chose Agape, Ciel would pull a HeroicSacrifice to rescue Princess Rosamund. A sequel item, "[[BadassPrincess Rosamund's]] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Revenge]]", suggests that [[RoadCone this is the canon route]].

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* GaiaOnline's Website/GaiaOnline's "Sainte Ciel" Evolving Item told the story of a nun trying to rescue the princess she loved from an evil demon. You could choose between Eros and Agape routes; if you chose Agape, Ciel would pull a HeroicSacrifice to rescue Princess Rosamund. A sequel item, "[[BadassPrincess Rosamund's]] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Revenge]]", suggests that [[RoadCone this is the canon route]].
26th Apr '16 2:41:56 PM WaxingName
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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love for them drives you to befriend your "enemies" instead of killing them (albeit you can fight them until. As Sans puts it at his endgame judgement, you don't gain [[CharacterLevel LOVE]] (which as noted later, is definitely ''not'' one of the four loves), but you instead gain love. In fact this love combined with your [[{{Determinator}} determination]] [[spoiler:allows you to become essentially invincible during the final confrontation with Asriel at the end of the True Pacifist run.]] On the other hand, the ''other'' ultimate goal of the game is to completely disavow love for LOVE [[spoiler:which stands for Level Of [=ViolencE=]]] just so you can get strong enough to [[spoiler:destroy the whole universe.]]

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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love for them drives you to befriend your "enemies" instead of killing them (albeit you can fight them until.since all they really want to do is to escape their holed-up existence under Mt. Ebott. As Sans puts it at his endgame judgement, you don't gain [[CharacterLevel LOVE]] (which as noted later, is definitely ''not'' one of the four loves), but you instead gain love. In fact this love combined with your [[{{Determinator}} determination]] [[spoiler:allows you to become essentially invincible during the final confrontation with Asriel at the end of the True Pacifist run.]] On the other hand, the ''other'' ultimate goal of the game is to completely disavow love for LOVE [[spoiler:which stands for Level Of [=ViolencE=]]] just so you can get strong enough to [[spoiler:destroy the whole universe.]]
26th Apr '16 12:43:56 PM WaxingName
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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love for them drives you to befriend your "enemies" instead of killing them (albeit you can fight them until. As Sans puts it at his endgame judgement, you don't gain [[CharacterLevel LOVE]] (which as noted later, is definitely ''not'' one of the four loves), but you instead gain love. In fact this love combined with your [[{{Determinator}} determination]] [[spoiler:allows you to become essentially invincible during the final confrontation with Asriel at the end of the True Pacifist run.]] On the other hand, the ''other'' ultimate goal of the game is to completely disavow love for LOVE [[spoiler:which stands for Level Of ViolencE]] just so you can get strong enough to [[spoiler:destroy the whole universe.]]

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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love for them drives you to befriend your "enemies" instead of killing them (albeit you can fight them until. As Sans puts it at his endgame judgement, you don't gain [[CharacterLevel LOVE]] (which as noted later, is definitely ''not'' one of the four loves), but you instead gain love. In fact this love combined with your [[{{Determinator}} determination]] [[spoiler:allows you to become essentially invincible during the final confrontation with Asriel at the end of the True Pacifist run.]] On the other hand, the ''other'' ultimate goal of the game is to completely disavow love for LOVE [[spoiler:which stands for Level Of ViolencE]] [=ViolencE=]]] just so you can get strong enough to [[spoiler:destroy the whole universe.]]
26th Apr '16 12:38:50 PM WaxingName
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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love

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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional lovelove for them drives you to befriend your "enemies" instead of killing them (albeit you can fight them until. As Sans puts it at his endgame judgement, you don't gain [[CharacterLevel LOVE]] (which as noted later, is definitely ''not'' one of the four loves), but you instead gain love. In fact this love combined with your [[{{Determinator}} determination]] [[spoiler:allows you to become essentially invincible during the final confrontation with Asriel at the end of the True Pacifist run.]] On the other hand, the ''other'' ultimate goal of the game is to completely disavow love for LOVE [[spoiler:which stands for Level Of ViolencE]] just so you can get strong enough to [[spoiler:destroy the whole universe.]]
26th Apr '16 12:24:21 PM WaxingName
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* Agape is one of the two ultimate goals of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. In spite of all the monsters trying to either kill or capture you, your unconditional love
25th Apr '16 7:40:22 PM WaxingName
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is based almost entirely around Philia. The Mane Six's strong bond drives the entirety of the series, and the {{Deuteragonist}}s, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, aren't far behind either. As the title notes, "Friendship is Magic" after all. However, it also incorporates all three other loves on the side, as noted in their respective sections.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is based almost entirely around Philia.Philia, as the title notes. The Mane Six's strong bond drives the entirety of the series, and the {{Deuteragonist}}s, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, aren't far behind either. As the title notes, "Friendship is Magic" after all. However, it also incorporates all three other loves on the side, as noted in their respective sections.


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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has Agape embodied by Pinkie Pie. As seen in the episode "A Friend In Deed", she happily proclaims "everypony's my friend" and that she loves to see everyone in the town smile, even the non-ponies. Fluttershy gets in on the action as well; in part two of the pilot, she calms a wounded manticore without knowing that he was even in pain. She then says "Sometimes we all just need to be shown a little kindness."
25th Apr '16 7:30:01 PM WaxingName
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* Next to Philia, Storge is probably the second-most prominent love in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Applejack's Storge is the most prevalent, as she has a deep bond with her siblings and Granny Smith. Twilight Sparkle also has a deep Storge bond with her brother Shining Armor and her eventual sister-in-law Cadance. Pinkie Pie also has Storge for her family, and Rarity also has it for her sister Sweetie Belle. Even Rainbow Dash develops a Storge-like bond with her fan Scootaloo, even though they aren't blood-related.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has Philia as the primary Love. However, it also incorporates a little of all the other loves on the side: Storge (in the case of the the mane six and their respective families), Eros (in the case of Shining and Cadance), and Agape (in the case of Pinkie Pie and the whole town of Ponyville).

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has Philia as is based almost entirely around Philia. The Mane Six's strong bond drives the primary Love. entirety of the series, and the {{Deuteragonist}}s, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, aren't far behind either. As the title notes, "Friendship is Magic" after all. However, it also incorporates a little of all the three other loves on the side: Storge (in the case of the the mane six and side, as noted in their respective families), Eros (in the case of Shining and Cadance), and Agape (in the case of Pinkie Pie and the whole town of Ponyville).sections.


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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. While nowhere near as prominent as Philia and Storge, Eros is also visited on the show, mainly between Twilight Sparkle's brother Shining Armor and his wife Princess Cadance. Rarity expresses a desire for Eros early on in the series, and was disappointed that her dream guy, Prince Bluebood was a total jerk. Even Twilight herself gets a brief encounter with Eros in regards to Flash Sentry in ''Equestria Girls''.
16th Apr '16 9:52:19 AM johnnye
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* ''[[AllLovingHero Agape]]'' (Unconditional Love) -- This is the love that brings forth caring regardless of circumstance. The essence of ''agape'' love is self-sacrifice. It is also a decision, not fueled by pure emotions (theoretically). However, emotions such as the other three loves can provide a "booster rocket" into agape. Note that true agape is never self-destructive; it is not the willingness to sacrifice oneself that, say, someone with a GuiltComplex would have. It builds the soul, and, like the other types, fosters emotional health and self-confidence. It's difficult to express the differences between a MartyrWithoutACause and someone who's accepted agape love into their heart, but they exist; one key distinction is that someone might love a vile monster even while actively opposing him/her, even to the point of a MercyKill, like a mother might love a son that passed the MoralEventHorizon a long, long time ago and needs to be put down. Agape love need not always be spiritual, but it is often based in spirituality.

Also referenced as a minor note are loves for non-human things. Love for an animal is redirected to Storge according to Creator/CSLewis (modern animal rights proponents rather argue for the inclusion of animals in Agape[[hottip:*:it really depends which animal you are referring to -- if it's a pet, that'll be Storge, but if you see yourself as "an animal lover", that's Agape]]), but love for nature and love for country are most noted as love for non-human things. Likings and preferences (for food, activities, etc) are also discussed especially as you can admire an object (like a painting for instance) just as you can admire a person.

It is notable that the descriptions are rough categories of types of love and not exclusive to each other. That is, more than one can appear between the same people. For instance, if Alice meets Bob at a SciFi convention and they continue to get together to talk about sci-fi, then they have Phileo. If Alice and Bob in the process become each others' [[LoveInterest Love Interests]], they will also have Eros, but if they still get together to talk about sci-fi they still have Phileo. If they get married, [[HappilyMarried live happily ever after]], [[GrowOldWithMe grow old together]] and like each other's company simply because they are there, that is Storge. And if they make {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s for each other, that is Agape.

A close, platonic bond between mentor and student might carry shades of storge or phileo, but is usually not classified as one of the four.

Related to LikeBrotherAndSister and IJustWantToHaveFriends. Agape is also a SuperTrope of HeroicSacrifice and all four can be expressed by an ActOfTrueLove.

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* ''[[AllLovingHero Agape]]'' (Unconditional Love) -- This is the love that brings forth caring regardless of circumstance. The essence of ''agape'' love is self-sacrifice. It is also a decision, not fueled by pure emotions (theoretically). However, emotions such as the other three loves can provide a "booster rocket" into agape. ''agape''. Note that true agape ''agape'' is never self-destructive; it is not the willingness to sacrifice oneself that, say, someone with a GuiltComplex would have. It builds the soul, and, like the other types, fosters emotional health and self-confidence. It's difficult to express the differences between a MartyrWithoutACause and someone who's accepted agape ''agape'' love into their heart, but they exist; one key distinction is that someone might love a vile monster even while actively opposing him/her, even to the point of a MercyKill, like a mother might love a son that passed the MoralEventHorizon a long, long time ago and needs to be put down. Agape ''Agape'' love need not always be spiritual, but it is often based in spirituality.

Also referenced as a minor note are loves for non-human things. Love for an animal (such as a pet) is redirected to Storge ''storge'' according to Creator/CSLewis (modern Creator/CSLewis, while modern animal rights proponents rather might argue for the inclusion of animals in Agape[[hottip:*:it really depends which animal you are referring to -- if it's a pet, that'll be Storge, but if you see yourself as "an animal lover", that's Agape]]), general in ''agape'', but love for nature and love for country are most noted as love for non-human things. Likings and preferences (for food, activities, etc) are also discussed especially as you can admire an object (like a painting for instance) just as you can admire a person.

It is notable that the descriptions are rough categories of types of love and not exclusive to each other. That is, more than one can appear between the same people. For instance, if Alice meets Bob at a SciFi convention and they continue to get together to talk about sci-fi, then they have Phileo. ''philia''. If Alice and Bob in the process become each others' [[LoveInterest Love Interests]], they will also have Eros, ''eros'', but if they still get together to talk about sci-fi they still have Phileo. ''philia''. If they get married, [[HappilyMarried live happily ever after]], [[GrowOldWithMe grow old together]] and like each other's company simply because they are there, that is Storge. ''storge''. And if they make {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s for each other, that is Agape.

A close, platonic bond between mentor and student might carry shades of storge or phileo, but is usually not classified as one of the four.

''agape''.

Related to LikeBrotherAndSister and IJustWantToHaveFriends. Agape ''Agape'' is also a SuperTrope of HeroicSacrifice and all four can be expressed by an ActOfTrueLove.
16th Apr '16 9:46:20 AM johnnye
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* ''[[LoveInterest Eros]]'' (Romance) -- This is love in the sense of "being in love". (This is distinct from sexuality.) This kind of love longs for emotional connection with the other person. According to C.S. Lewis, sexuality is called "Venus". It can be part of "Eros," but on its own, it is not one of the loves, just desire (not to be confused with {{Lust}}, which is this desire expressed in a sinful way ((such as StalkerWithACrush))).

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* ''[[LoveInterest Eros]]'' (Romance) -- This is love in the sense of "being in love". (This is distinct from sexuality.) This kind of love longs for emotional connection with the other person. According to C.S. Lewis, sexuality is called "Venus". It can be part of "Eros," but on its own, it is not one of the loves, just desire (not to be confused with {{Lust}}, which is this desire expressed in a sinful way ((such as StalkerWithACrush))).way).
16th Apr '16 9:43:59 AM johnnye
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* [[LikeBrotherAndSister Storge]] (Affection/Family) -- This is fondness through familiarity, especially among family members or people who have [[TrueCompanions otherwise found themselves together]] by chance.
* [[TrueCompanions Philia]] (Friendship) -- Friendship is a strong bond existing between people who share a common interest or activity. This includes what Lewis calls companionship; that is gregariousness of the kind which is found in a GoodGuyBar or LocalHangout; as well as friendship proper which is between HeterosexualLifePartners, PlatonicLifePartners and the like but often starts as companionship. Some especially lighthearted {{Worthy Opponent}}s might have this as well.
* [[LoveInterest Eros]] (Romance) -- This is love in the sense of "being in love". (This is distinct from sexuality.) This kind of love longs for emotional connection with the other person. According to C.S. Lewis, sexuality is called "Venus". It can be part of "Eros," but on its own, it is not one of the loves, just desire (not to be confused with {{Lust}}, which is this desire expressed in a sinful way ((such as StalkerWithACrush))).
* [[AllLovingHero Agape]] (Unconditional Love) -- This is the love that brings forth caring regardless of circumstance. The essence of ''agape'' love is self-sacrifice. It is also a decision, not fueled by pure emotions (theoretically). However, emotions such as the other three loves can provide a "booster rocket" into agape. Note that true agape is never self-destructive; it is not the willingness to sacrifice oneself that, say, someone with a GuiltComplex would have. It builds the soul, and, like the other types, fosters emotional health and self-confidence. It's difficult to express the differences between a MartyrWithoutACause and someone who's accepted agape love into their heart, but they exist; one key distinction is that someone might love a vile monster even while actively opposing him/her, even to the point of a MercyKill, like a mother might love a son that passed the MoralEventHorizon a long, long time ago and needs to be put down. Agape love need not always be spiritual, but it is often based in spirituality.

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* [[LikeBrotherAndSister Storge]] ''[[LikeBrotherAndSister Storge]]'' (Affection/Family) -- This is fondness through familiarity, especially among family members or people who have [[TrueCompanions otherwise found themselves together]] by chance.
* [[TrueCompanions Philia]] ''[[TrueCompanions Philia]]'' (Friendship) -- Friendship is a strong bond existing between people who share a common interest or activity. This includes what Lewis calls companionship; that is gregariousness of the kind which is found in a GoodGuyBar or LocalHangout; as well as friendship proper which is between HeterosexualLifePartners, PlatonicLifePartners and the like but often starts as companionship. Some especially lighthearted {{Worthy Opponent}}s might have this as well.
* [[LoveInterest Eros]] ''[[LoveInterest Eros]]'' (Romance) -- This is love in the sense of "being in love". (This is distinct from sexuality.) This kind of love longs for emotional connection with the other person. According to C.S. Lewis, sexuality is called "Venus". It can be part of "Eros," but on its own, it is not one of the loves, just desire (not to be confused with {{Lust}}, which is this desire expressed in a sinful way ((such as StalkerWithACrush))).
* [[AllLovingHero Agape]] ''[[AllLovingHero Agape]]'' (Unconditional Love) -- This is the love that brings forth caring regardless of circumstance. The essence of ''agape'' love is self-sacrifice. It is also a decision, not fueled by pure emotions (theoretically). However, emotions such as the other three loves can provide a "booster rocket" into agape. Note that true agape is never self-destructive; it is not the willingness to sacrifice oneself that, say, someone with a GuiltComplex would have. It builds the soul, and, like the other types, fosters emotional health and self-confidence. It's difficult to express the differences between a MartyrWithoutACause and someone who's accepted agape love into their heart, but they exist; one key distinction is that someone might love a vile monster even while actively opposing him/her, even to the point of a MercyKill, like a mother might love a son that passed the MoralEventHorizon a long, long time ago and needs to be put down. Agape love need not always be spiritual, but it is often based in spirituality.
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