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10th Dec '16 11:02:29 AM nombretomado
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword", ConanTheBarbarian describes his own people like, from living in GrimUpNorth.

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/ConanTheBarbarian:
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"Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword", ConanTheBarbarian Conan describes his own people like, like this trope, from living in GrimUpNorth.
30th Nov '16 1:36:54 AM Morgenthaler
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** In ''[[{{Homer}} The Iliad]]'', [[BadassNormal Hector]] knows he is fated to lose to Achilles, and [[ValuesDissonance runs away from him for that reason]]. He eventually turns to fight and is swiftly killed.

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** In ''[[{{Homer}} The Iliad]]'', ''Literature/TheIliad'', [[BadassNormal Hector]] knows he is fated to lose to Achilles, and [[ValuesDissonance runs away from him for that reason]]. He eventually turns to fight and is swiftly killed.



* The Fated in the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' setting ''{{Planescape}}'' are a bit of a subversion. They claim to believe in the ultimate fate that no one can alter, but what they actually seem to believe in is not helping others (and, conversely, not expecting help themselves). They still strive to achieve things, though: if they succeed, then they were fated to do so and, if not, they've no business complaining about it.

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* The Fated in the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' setting ''{{Planescape}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' are a bit of a subversion. They claim to believe in the ultimate fate that no one can alter, but what they actually seem to believe in is not helping others (and, conversely, not expecting help themselves). They still strive to achieve things, though: if they succeed, then they were fated to do so and, if not, they've no business complaining about it.
30th Nov '16 1:36:00 AM Morgenthaler
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[[folder:Films -- Animated]]
* [[spoiler:Korso]] in ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is like this. Fortunately, the character does a HeelFaceTurn after being proven wrong. Unfortunately, RedemptionEqualsDeath.
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* [[spoiler:Korso]] in ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is like this. Fortunately, the character does a HeelFaceTurn after being proven wrong. Unfortunately, RedemptionEqualsDeath.
30th Nov '16 1:35:02 AM Morgenthaler
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** There's also Basil Hawkins, who is actually quite BadAss. Fortunately, he doesn't waste time trying to convince other people of his point of view. He usually just does whatever his cards tell him has the highest probability of success, no matter how outrageous it may seem. And he hasn't been wrong yet.

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** There's also Basil Hawkins, who is actually quite BadAss.badass. Fortunately, he doesn't waste time trying to convince other people of his point of view. He usually just does whatever his cards tell him has the highest probability of success, no matter how outrageous it may seem. And he hasn't been wrong yet.
19th Nov '16 9:44:17 PM Steven
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* Lmar in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' believes that he will die some day since it's the price to pay for being a gang banger. Lmar's line of thinking makes him take reckless actions many times over, which has Franklin chew him out for it every time he has to go save him.
26th Oct '16 7:50:18 PM Generations91
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26th Oct '16 7:49:27 PM Generations91
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* The psychological phenomenon of this trope is known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness learned helplessness]], in which a human or a non-human being suffers from a sense of powerlessness brought on by traumatic, painful stimuli or repeated instances of failure. Even when given opportunities to escape an unpleasant situation, the subject's overbearing sense of powerlessness convinces them that they can't escape.
* In Calvinisim, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.
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18th Oct '16 1:59:16 PM Trevorg2000
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TheFatalist is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: a character who believes everything that happens is destined to happen and there is no way to escape it. They probably spend a lot of time telling the {{Determinator}} that YouCantFightFate and to KnowWhenToFoldEm - in vain.

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TheFatalist The Fatalist is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: a character who believes everything that happens is destined to happen and there is no way to escape it. They probably spend a lot of time telling the {{Determinator}} that YouCantFightFate and to KnowWhenToFoldEm - in vain.
11th Oct '16 3:23:26 PM 08n8t0
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And yes, [[IThoughtItMeant the root here is referring to]] "fate" not "fatal" but [[ParanoiaFuel don't think about it too hard.]]

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And yes, [[IThoughtItMeant the root here is referring to]] "fate" not "fatal" but [[ParanoiaFuel don't think about it too hard.]]
]][[note]]Fatal is also derived from fate. It originally referred to anything caused by fate.[[/note]]
4th Oct '16 3:44:41 PM StrixObscuro
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* Destiny of the Endless from ''Comicbook/TheSandman''... Sort of. [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Considering his nature]], it's probably more apt to say he ''is'' fatalism.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'', Klara starts off as a fatalist, both because of her strict Calvinist upbringing, and because her life before joining the Runaways is [[DomesticAbuse so]] [[MaritalRapeLicense horrible]] that the only way she can rationalize it is to assume that it's part of some divine plan. She throws off this kind of thinking during ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'', when she prays for ''someone'' to save her friends, and in response, a tree nearly impales the ArcVillain, allowing her friends to escape.



* Destiny of the Endless from ''Comicbook/TheSandman''... Sort of. [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Considering his nature]], it's probably more apt to say he ''is'' fatalism.



* Achilles in ''Film/{{Troy}}'' (along with Hector and most of the other characters from the ''[[{{Homer}} Iliad]]'').

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* Achilles in ''Film/{{Troy}}'' (along with Hector and most of the other characters from the ''[[{{Homer}} ''[[Creator/{{Homer}} Iliad]]'').
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