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13th Feb '18 4:38:03 PM Fireblood
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** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism. It's said that God wrote down everyone's fate ahead of time at the beginning. Some however don't see this as God making people do things, but just viewing the future due to his [[TheOmniscient divine foreknowledge]]. Whether or not that contradicts free will remains an issue.

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** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism. It's said that God wrote down everyone's fate ahead of time at the beginning. Some however don't see this as God making people do things, but just viewing the future due to his [[TheOmniscient divine foreknowledge]]. Whether or not that contradicts free will remains an issue.issue of course.
13th Feb '18 4:37:09 PM Fireblood
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** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism.

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** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism. It's said that God wrote down everyone's fate ahead of time at the beginning. Some however don't see this as God making people do things, but just viewing the future due to his [[TheOmniscient divine foreknowledge]]. Whether or not that contradicts free will remains an issue.



** Spengler was fatalistic only in the largest sense. He believed that the ''general'' path of each civilization was set, with a given cycle going through recognizable stages, much like the recognizable stages in the growth, life, and death of an individual. He believed that the fine details were quite flexible, however. For ex, as Spengler saw it, the coming of a figure who would be to Western Civilization what Augustus Caesar was to Greco-Roman society might be inevitable, but who that figure was, what kind of person he would be, and the details of the coming empire, were quite open to determination.

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** Spengler was fatalistic only in the largest sense. He believed that the ''general'' path of each civilization was set, with a given cycle going through recognizable stages, much like the recognizable stages in the growth, life, and death of an individual. He believed that the fine details were quite flexible, however. For ex, example, as Spengler saw it, the coming of a figure who would be to Western Civilization what Augustus Caesar was to Greco-Roman society might be inevitable, but who that figure was, what kind of person he would be, and the details of the coming empire, were quite open to determination.determination.
21st Jan '18 5:43:46 PM DustSnitch
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* ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'': One of the wrathful penitents characterizes the wayward people of Dante's times as ascribing every single action to the will of Heaven. The penitent points out that this eliminates free will and ignores the fact that good and evil are clear to these same people who claim Heaven has forced them into sin.
-->''"Thus, if the present world has gone astray, in you is the cause, in you itís to be sought."''
5th Sep '17 7:32:44 AM aartbastiaan
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->''"Where did I come from? Where will I go? Not for me to know."''
-->-- '''Lust''', ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist''

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->''"Where did I come from? Where will I go? Not for me ->"''Here money is fleeting,''
->''Here friend is fleeting,''
->''Here man is fleeting,''
->''Here kinsman is fleeting,''
->''All the foundation of this world turns
to know."''
waste!''"
-->-- '''Lust''', ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist''
'''The Wanderer''', ''Old English poem''
15th May '17 3:13:41 PM eroock
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->"Where did I come from? Where will I go? Not for me to know."
--> -- '''Lust''', ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist''

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->"Where ->''"Where did I come from? Where will I go? Not for me to know."
--> --
"''
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'''Lust''', ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist''
22nd Apr '17 8:55:35 PM nombretomado
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* Adam Reeves in ''SurvivalOfTheFittest''. Also a SocialDarwinist.
* A major aspect of the Taoist religion in the ''WhateleyUniverse''. We've seen them shrug off murder because it was destined.

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* Adam Reeves in ''SurvivalOfTheFittest''.''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest''. Also a SocialDarwinist.
* A major aspect of the Taoist religion in the ''WhateleyUniverse''.''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. We've seen them shrug off murder because it was destined.
2nd Apr '17 8:44:12 AM billybobfred
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* Any religion with the concept of [[YouCannotFightFate predestination]] can easily lead into fatalism.
** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism.
* General Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson was legendary for being as steady as a 'stone wall' in battle, even under cannon fire. He is quoted as saying "May mine and I, by God's grace, stand like a stone wall before the onslaught of the enemy, trusting that we are as safe on the battlefield as we are in our beds." believing that he would die whenever God willed it.
** Jackson was a devout Calvinist. Calvinism is the TropeCodifier for [[YouCannotFightFate predestination]].
** Any devout follower of a religion who believes similarly will qualify.
* [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler (author of the non-fiction book ''Literature/TheDeclineOfTheWest'') was one and wrote a lot about it.
** Spengler was fatalistic only in the largest sense. He believed that the ''general'' path of each civilization was set, with a given cycle going through recognizable stages, much like the recognizable stages in the growth, life, and death of an individual. He believed that the fine details were quite flexible, however. For ex, as Spengler saw it, the coming of a figure who would be to Western Civilization what Augustus Caesar was to Greco-Roman society might be inevitable, but who that figure was, what kind of person he would be, and the details of the coming empire, were quite open to determination.
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* Any religion with the concept of [[YouCannotFightFate predestination]] can easily lead into fatalism.
** The Muslim saying ''Insallah'' means literally ''if God wills'', implying deep fatalism.
* General Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson was legendary for being as steady as a 'stone wall' in battle, even under cannon fire. He is quoted as saying "May mine and I, by God's grace, stand like a stone wall before the onslaught of the enemy, trusting that we are as safe on the battlefield as we are in our beds." believing that he would die whenever God willed it.
** Jackson was a devout Calvinist. Calvinism is the TropeCodifier for [[YouCannotFightFate predestination]].
** Any devout follower of a religion who believes similarly will qualify.
* [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler (author of the non-fiction book ''Literature/TheDeclineOfTheWest'') was one and wrote a lot about it.
** Spengler was fatalistic only in the largest sense. He believed that the ''general'' path of each civilization was set, with a given cycle going through recognizable stages, much like the recognizable stages in the growth, life, and death of an individual. He believed that the fine details were quite flexible, however. For ex, as Spengler saw it, the coming of a figure who would be to Western Civilization what Augustus Caesar was to Greco-Roman society might be inevitable, but who that figure was, what kind of person he would be, and the details of the coming empire, were quite open to determination.
24th Feb '17 4:35:32 AM Dravencour
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* In UsefulNotes/{{Calvinism}}, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.

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* In UsefulNotes/{{Calvinism}}, there is Calvinism has the concept of predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.
24th Feb '17 4:34:39 AM Dravencour
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* In UsefulNotes/Calvinism, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.

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* In UsefulNotes/Calvinism, UsefulNotes/{{Calvinism}}, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.
24th Feb '17 4:34:20 AM Dravencour
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* In Calvinisim, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.

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* In Calvinisim, UsefulNotes/Calvinism, there is predestination, where everything that occurs is the will of God and that human beings are passive agents in said occurrences, whether they be positive or negative.
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