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17th Oct '17 8:15:19 AM Monolaf317
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* One episode of WesternAnimation/GodTheDevilAndBob deals with the death of Bob's verbally abusive and emotionally neglectful father. After finding out he went to heaven, Bob demands justification from God. God elaborates that there is a "line of punches" passed from father to son going all the way back to Adam and Cain. Even though his father was no saint, the trick was "passing on a softer punch", as Bob's grandfather was relatively worse. In turn, Bob realizes he hasn't been the best father to his own son, so he learns to forgive his father and be a better one to his son.

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* One episode of WesternAnimation/GodTheDevilAndBob ''WesternAnimation/GodTheDevilAndBob'' deals with the death of Bob's verbally abusive and emotionally neglectful father. After finding out he went to heaven, Bob demands justification from God. God elaborates that there is a "line of punches" passed from father to son going all the way back to Adam and Cain. Even though his father was no saint, the trick was "passing on a softer punch", as Bob's grandfather was relatively worse. In turn, Bob realizes he hasn't been the best father to his own son, so he learns to forgive his father and be a better one to his son.



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17th Sep '17 3:26:44 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* The Horseman family from ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman''. Bojack's maternal grandfather made horribly abusive decisions, which lead to Bojack's mother being abusive and her son becoming an abuser.

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* The Horseman family from ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman''. Bojack's ''WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman''. [=BoJack=]'s maternal grandfather made horribly abusive decisions, which lead to Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s mother being abusive and her son becoming an abuser.a self-loathing mess who himself takes his struggles with feelings of depression and inadequacy out on others.
14th Sep '17 5:35:40 AM RedRoverRedRover
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* The Horseman family from ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman''. Bojack's maternal grandfather made horribly abusive decisions, which lead to Bojack's mother being abusive and her son becoming an abuser.
6th Jun '17 2:54:34 PM Derkhan
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* In ''Literature/MidnightTides'', book five of the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', Uruth, who as the Emperor's mother has a very high standing among the women of her tribe, scolds said Emperor's wife for acting foolishly. Since Mayen cannot talk back, she takes it out on her slave Feather Witch by beating the latter. Feather Witch is unable to deal with the situation in any other way and in turn takes her frustration out verbally on fellow slave Udinaas, who's even lower than her in social status by being not only a slave but also an Indebted. The trope is then, however, defied by Udinaas who is fully aware of what is happening and quietly informs Feather Witch that he's not her doormat. Not anymore, anyway.
23rd Apr '17 7:19:11 PM Luigifan
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A very messed-up theory as a variant of typical karma. The basic premise of karma is something like this: "Don't do something bad, because later something bad will happen to you." This, on the other hand is quite different.

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A very messed-up theory as a variant of typical karma. The basic premise of karma is something like this: "Don't do something bad, because later something bad will happen to you." This, on the other hand hand, is quite different.



# There may or may not be an original source (in the latter case, it is because the source is oddly cyclic, or the superiors in question just an excuse used by a {{Jerkass}} boss, doing this ForTheEvulz).

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# There may or may not be an original source (in the latter case, it is because the source is oddly cyclic, or the superiors in question are just an excuse used by a {{Jerkass}} boss, doing this ForTheEvulz).



* This trope kicks off the main plot of the ''ComicBook/SinCity'' story, "The Big Fat Kill." After having a run-in with Dwight [=McCarthy=], the new boyfriend of the ex he'd been abusing, Jackie-Boy is on the receiving end of a vicious FreudianThreat and a {{Swirlie}}, which succeeds in driving him off. Unfortunately, Jackie-Boy doesn't take humiliation well, and he rounds up his boys and takes them out for a stroll, where he hopes to take his rage out on a woman. Unfortunately for Jackie-Boy and crew, they picked the wrong neighborhood to go trolling for women to take it out on. [[spoiler:And unfortunately for the girls of Old Town, this asshole happens to be a hero cop, resulting in everything going straight to hell when they kill him]].

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* This trope kicks off the main plot of the ''ComicBook/SinCity'' story, "The Big Fat Kill." After having a run-in with Dwight [=McCarthy=], the new boyfriend of the ex he'd been abusing, Jackie-Boy is on the receiving end of a vicious FreudianThreat and a {{Swirlie}}, which succeeds in driving him off. Unfortunately, Jackie-Boy doesn't take humiliation well, and he rounds up his boys and takes them out for a stroll, where he hopes to take his rage out on a woman. Unfortunately for Jackie-Boy and crew, they picked the wrong neighborhood to go trolling for women to take it out on. [[spoiler:And unfortunately for the girls of Old Town, this asshole happens to be a hero cop, resulting in everything going straight to hell when they kill him]].him.]]



* In ''Fanfic/CosmicWarriors'' this is inverted, where the villain takes out his frustration on the innocent. In the first chapter Jadeite causes a nearby helicopter to explode after his hunt for the [[spoiler: Silver Crystal]] is being interfered with by Tuxedo Mask.

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* In ''Fanfic/CosmicWarriors'' this is inverted, where the villain takes out his frustration on the innocent. In the first chapter chapter, Jadeite causes a nearby helicopter to explode after his hunt for the [[spoiler: Silver [[spoiler:Silver Crystal]] is being interfered with by Tuxedo Mask.



* In ''Film/RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion'' Heather is surprised to learn that the protagonists, who she'd resented at school, were in turn looked down on by the "A group". She's ''delighted'' to learn that she herself had consistently made another girl at school feel miserable.

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* In ''Film/RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion'' ''Film/RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion'', Heather is surprised to learn that the protagonists, who she'd resented at school, were in turn looked down on by the "A group". She's ''delighted'' to learn that she herself had consistently made another girl at school feel miserable.



* ''Literature/GoodOmens'' has Crowley rely on this, having shut down mobile phone service in London for several minutes during busy hour, which he expects to produce a lot of angry executives who take it out on subordinates and so on. He views it as a much more efficient method of spreading pain and misery than the usual demon noble's gradual corruption of righteous or powerful individuals, something that none of them are able to understand or appreciate.

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* ''Literature/GoodOmens'' has Crowley rely on this, having shut down mobile phone service in London for several minutes during busy hour, which he expects to produce a lot of angry executives who take it out on subordinates and so on. He views it as a much more efficient method of spreading pain and misery than the usual demon noble's nobles' gradual corruption of righteous or powerful individuals, something that none of them are able to understand or appreciate.



* In ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' this is known as the Chain of Screaming. When someone screams at a subordinate, the subordinate must scream at someone lower, who in turn screams at someone else, and so on until someone screams at the original screamer and the cycle is complete. Marshall's attempts to break the chain do not go as well as he hoped.
* In an episode of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'', J.D. witnesses Dr. Cox getting humiliated by Jordan and decides to make a quick exit, saying "Anger like this has a way of being passed on to whoever's closest." As soon as he's out of the room, Carla comes in to ask for Cox's help. He angrily snaps at her, she gets angry and snaps at Turk and so on. Ironically, the chain eventually reaches J.D. anyway.

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* In ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'', this is known as the Chain of Screaming. When someone screams at a subordinate, the subordinate must scream at someone lower, who in turn screams at someone else, and so on until someone screams at the original screamer and the cycle is complete. Marshall's attempts to break the chain do not go as well as he hoped.
* In an episode of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'', J.D. witnesses Dr. Cox getting humiliated by Jordan and decides to make a quick exit, saying "Anger like this has a way of being passed on to whoever's closest." As soon as he's out of the room, Carla comes in to ask for Cox's help. He angrily snaps at her, she gets angry and snaps at Turk Turk, and so on. Ironically, the chain eventually reaches J.D. anyway.



* Another reason the original Jesus story, and the MessianicArchetype in general is so powerful. We have the Roman government, which is hated as a general rule, taking it out on the its subjects (which includes the nation of Judea). The Jewish leaders in turn as kings and Temple officials exert authority on their subjects, and basically everyone is miserable from this trickle-down. Finally, at the end of this cycle, you have this healer/prophet who is used as a scapegoat. Rather than deny it, he ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome takes the punishment]].''

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* Another reason the original Jesus story, and the MessianicArchetype in general general, is so powerful. We have the Roman government, which is hated as a general rule, taking it out on the its subjects (which includes the nation of Judea). The Jewish leaders in turn as kings and Temple officials exert authority on their subjects, and basically everyone is miserable from this trickle-down. Finally, at the end of this cycle, you have this healer/prophet who is used as a scapegoat. Rather than deny it, he ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome takes the punishment]].''



* In ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', Abraham Reyes describes the sorry state of his country in a private conversation, and suggests that the apparent BigBad of his own struggle, Colonel Allende, is not actually fully responsible for everything that's happening. In sharp contrast to his rather vacuous public speeches, he says that the spiralling cruelty of government troops is a result of this trope. Unfortunately, this uncharacteristically reflective moment [[MoodWhiplash gets derailed rather suddenly]] when he compares it to "a father who beats his son, so his son [[{{Squick}} takes the dog outside and rapes it.]]" [[PlayerCharacter Marston]] wondering why such a specific example might occur to Reyes puts something of a damper on any more meaningful discussion between them.

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* In ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', Abraham Reyes describes the sorry state of his country in a private conversation, and suggests that the apparent BigBad of his own struggle, Colonel Allende, is not actually fully responsible for everything that's happening. In sharp contrast to his rather vacuous public speeches, he says that the spiralling cruelty of government troops is a result of this trope. Unfortunately, this uncharacteristically reflective moment [[MoodWhiplash gets derailed rather suddenly]] when he compares it to "a father who beats his son, so his son [[{{Squick}} takes the dog outside and rapes it.]]" it]]." [[PlayerCharacter Marston]] wondering why such a specific example might occur to Reyes puts something of a damper on any more meaningful discussion between them.



* One episode of WesternAnimation/GodTheDevilAndBob deals with the death of Bob's verbally abusive and emotionally neglectful father. After finding out he went to heaven Bob demands justification from God. God elaborates that there is a "line of punches" passed from father to son going all the way back to Adam and Cain. Even though his father was no saint the trick was "passing on a softer punch" as Bob's grandfather was relatively worse. In turn Bob realizes he hasn't been the best father to his own son, so he learns to forgive his father and be a better one to his son.

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* One episode of WesternAnimation/GodTheDevilAndBob deals with the death of Bob's verbally abusive and emotionally neglectful father. After finding out he went to heaven heaven, Bob demands justification from God. God elaborates that there is a "line of punches" passed from father to son going all the way back to Adam and Cain. Even though his father was no saint saint, the trick was "passing on a softer punch" punch", as Bob's grandfather was relatively worse. In turn turn, Bob realizes he hasn't been the best father to his own son, so he learns to forgive his father and be a better one to his son.



* This actually seems to happen in RealLife with cycles of abuse, though probably not to quite this extent. There's some suggestive evidence that it happens not only from individual to individual (such as abused people becoming abusers) but also across whole demographics (a slightly marginalized group's leadership and cultural attitudes "punching downward" against even more marginalized groups, such as misogyny or homophobia within a specific group, which can eventually filter down into individual abuse by the abused). [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Further specifics aren't really needed here, for obvious reasons.]]
* Studies suggest that military, police, and military police organisations with cultures of abuse tend to commit War Crimes even when the top-level leadership try to stop them. Two ''excellent'' examples are the Imperial Japanese Army and the Red Workers' and Peasants' Army (of the Soviet Union). Both had abusive cultures, with officers regularly beating their NCOs and NCOs beating the rank-and-file, and both committed numerous War Crimes against civilians. However, there were notable differences and it is worth contrasting a contemporary organisation which commited War Crimes ''without'' such a culture:

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* This actually seems to happen in RealLife with cycles of abuse, though probably not to quite this extent. There's some suggestive evidence that it happens not only from individual to individual (such as abused people becoming abusers) abusers), but also across whole demographics (a slightly marginalized group's leadership and cultural attitudes "punching downward" against even more marginalized groups, such as misogyny or homophobia within a specific group, which can eventually filter down into individual abuse by the abused). [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Further specifics aren't really needed here, for obvious reasons.]]
* Studies suggest that military, police, and military police organisations with cultures of abuse tend to commit War Crimes even when the top-level leadership try to stop them. Two ''excellent'' examples are the Imperial Japanese Army and the Red Workers' and Peasants' Army (of the Soviet Union). Both had abusive cultures, with officers regularly beating their NCOs [=NCOs=] and NCOs [=NCOs=] beating the rank-and-file, and both committed numerous War Crimes against civilians. However, there were notable differences and it is worth contrasting a contemporary organisation which commited War Crimes ''without'' such a culture:



** The German Army's leadership promoted most War Crimes, particularly those which gave their forces practical advantages (such as the destruction of every community suspected to have given support to partisans), but disapproved of rape conducted without the use of condoms because of the risk posed by STDs. In their view so-called "War Crimes" were an insidious fiction propagated by Jews, Communists, and Liberals: warfare always had to be conducted with the most brutal means possible, and imposing artificial limitations upon one's ability to strike at the enemy was sheer foolishness. Ungentlemanly conduct regarding POW or civilians of roughly comparable racial status, such as Scandinavians or Dutchmen, was frowned upon and both could be and was punished. While any and all conduct against POW or civilians of (radically) lower racial status, such as Ukrainians or Kazakhs, was acceptable some were punished for sexually assaulting racial inferiors without protection (because of the risk of STDs).

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** The German Army's leadership promoted most War Crimes, particularly those which gave their forces practical advantages (such as the destruction of every community suspected to have given support to partisans), but disapproved of rape conducted without the use of condoms because of the risk posed by STDs. In their view view, so-called "War Crimes" were an insidious fiction propagated by Jews, Communists, and Liberals: warfare always had to be conducted with the most brutal means possible, and imposing artificial limitations upon one's ability to strike at the enemy was sheer foolishness. Ungentlemanly conduct regarding POW or civilians of roughly comparable racial status, such as Scandinavians or Dutchmen, was frowned upon and both could be and was punished. While any and all conduct against POW or civilians of (radically) lower racial status, such as Ukrainians or Kazakhs, was acceptable acceptable, some were punished for sexually assaulting racial inferiors without protection (because of the risk of STDs).



** Which, depressingly, leaves the private with no release for all this stress and they end up shooting themselves occasionally.
* OlderThanFeudalism: a scapegoat was originally a literal goat which was sacrificed in order to soak up the blame for all those problems.

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** Which, depressingly, leaves the private with no release for all this stress stress, and they end up shooting themselves occasionally.
* OlderThanFeudalism: a scapegoat [[TheScapegoat scapegoat]] was originally a literal goat which was sacrificed in order to soak up the blame for all those problems.
25th Dec '16 9:23:12 AM Dravencour
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The act of abusing someone weaker or lower-ranking than you to displace frustrations because of similar treatment from someone stronger or higher-ranking than you is known as [[KickTheDog Kicking the Dog]], but that term has a different meaning on this wiki.

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The act of abusing someone weaker or lower-ranking than you to displace frustrations because of similar treatment from someone stronger or higher-ranking than you is often known as [[KickTheDog Kicking the Dog]], but that term has a different meaning on this wiki.
25th Dec '16 9:22:50 AM Dravencour
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As a scenario, a man running a company is under a great deal of pressure from his superiors to produce the product faster. He's just been yelled at. Obviously, he can't talk back to his supervisor since he'd get fired, so what does he do? He yells at his normally best worker on something small. Well, the target man [[WouldNotHitAGirl doesn't want to be known as the guy who beats his wife]], so he shouts at her when something wrong happens. Because of the marital strife, she screams at her kid all the time. The child has no weaker human to take it out on, so the kid beats the family dog, which bites the nearby cat. And so on. The strong harms the weak, who gives similar treatment to the weaker, who in turn harms the next weaker.

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As a scenario, a man running a company is under a great deal of pressure from his superiors to produce the product faster. He's just been yelled at. Obviously, he can't talk back to his supervisor since he'd get fired, so what does he do? He yells at his normally best worker on something small. Well, the target man [[WouldNotHitAGirl doesn't want to be known as the a guy who beats his wife]], so he shouts at her when something wrong happens. Because of the marital strife, she screams at her kid all the time. The child has no weaker human to take it out on, so the kid beats the family dog, which bites the nearby cat. And so on. The strong harms the weak, who gives similar treatment to the weaker, who in turn harms the next weaker.


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The act of abusing someone weaker or lower-ranking than you to displace frustrations because of similar treatment from someone stronger or higher-ranking than you is known as [[KickTheDog Kicking the Dog]], but that term has a different meaning on this wiki.
28th Aug '16 3:29:27 AM azul120
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* PlayedForComedy in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender.'' During a (fake) argument, Katara insults Sokka by calling his ears big. Afterwards, Sokka says, "Momo, you have some big ears."

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28th Jul '16 10:57:19 AM Discar
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* The great-grandchild of Creator/LRonHubbard, the creator of the ChurchofHappyology, exposed in a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0QsCrFANMzc poem]] about the damage his great-grandfather inflicted on the grandchildren and great grandchildren he never met with threats to his son, the patriarch of the family, and how when the poet tries to explain to psychiatrists that mental illness does run in his family via the leader of a cult, they accuse him of delusions and compromise his credibility.

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24th Jul '16 3:23:30 PM JamesAustin
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* The great-grandchild of [[LRonHubbard L. Ron Hubbard]], the creator of the [[ChurchofHappyology Church of Happyology]], exposed in a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0QsCrFANMzc poem]] about the damage his great-grandfather inflicted on the grandchildren and great grandchildren he never met with threats to his son, the patriarch of the family, and how when the poet tries to explain to psychiatrists that mental illness does run in his family via the leader of a cult, they accuse him of delusions and compromise his credibility.

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* The great-grandchild of [[LRonHubbard L. Ron Hubbard]], Creator/LRonHubbard, the creator of the [[ChurchofHappyology Church of Happyology]], ChurchofHappyology, exposed in a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0QsCrFANMzc poem]] about the damage his great-grandfather inflicted on the grandchildren and great grandchildren he never met with threats to his son, the patriarch of the family, and how when the poet tries to explain to psychiatrists that mental illness does run in his family via the leader of a cult, they accuse him of delusions and compromise his credibility.
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