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* PlayedForDrama in ''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'': [[spoiler:Grace is confronted with a mental construct of Hazel who points out that she's "A coward leading cowards" because she's too afraid to admit that she might be ''wrong'' about how the Train actually works -- the purpose of the train is to make the number on your hand go down to symbolize your growing as a person, but Grace has told children that you're supposed to get them up by hurting others -- and the death of Tuba (a gorilla denizen) isn't just on Simon. It's also on Grace for planting the idea of wheeling denizens in the first place]].
* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Peggy Hill once led her Spanish class to Mexico for a day-trip. Pity Peggy speaks unspeakably bad Spanish, likely worse than that of some of her students, and it was no surprise when she led them to a butcher's shop thinking it was a carnival (the Spanish word for "butcher" being ''carnicero'').
** This also led to the first of many cases that point to Peggy being at least slightly deluded. After getting arrested for accidentally kidnapping a girl and taking her back to Texas (yeah), Peggy refuses to admit she had a misunderstanding due to language. To reiterate, she thought the police officer who was interrogating her and promising to lock her up and have rats eat her face was planning to give her an award ''and'' she naturally assumed that her lawyer in her trial was asking to go out and buy a hat when he called her to testify.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
** Homer Simpson tried to teach Apu all about America for Apu's citizenship test (e.g. claiming that the 13 stripes on the flag are for good luck). Afterwards, Apu was so tired and confused he didn't remember anything Homer taught him. Lisa happily declared him ready for the test. Which he passed. Even funnier is that Apu actually already knew more about America than Homer did. The flag Homer showed him had 47 stars, which Apu deduced must have been made during that brief period in 1912 after New Mexico became a state but before Arizona did. Officially, the U.S. flag ''never'' had 47 stars; it's only updated on July 4, so in 1912 it went from 46 to 48.
** Bart [[PlayingSick pretends to be sick]] and gets test answers from Milhouse. Mrs. Krabappel's response after he fails? "You did worse than Milhouse!"

-->'''K9''': Mass detection circuits indicate maximum reading on current vector. Probability of error (beep)

* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'': Brun has a whole mess of behavioral issues that make it difficult for her to deal with unexpected events. Her best friend Renee looks out for her...but what with Renee being a well-meaning control freak with her own behavioral issues, it's not the healthiest of relationships.

** In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', it's shown that despite being the KeeperOfForbiddenKnowledge Wan Shi Tong is reliant on his fox aides to gather knowledge of the human world, who somehow came to the idea that the radio was operated by tiny men inside machines. When he's told that this is a mistake, he gives a stern glare at one of his foxes, who bows its head in shame.

** This also led to the first of many cases that point to Peggy being at least slightly deluded. After getting arrested for accidentally kidnapping a girl and taking her back to Texas (Yeah), Peggy refuses to admit she had a misunderstanding due to language. To reiterate, she thought the police officer who was interrogating her and promising to lock her up and have rats eat her face was planning to give her an award AND she naturally assumed that her lawyer in her trial was asking to go out and buy a hat when he called her to testify.

** Kaguya and Shirogane occasionally get asked for romantic advice, since they’re the smartest and most popular students in school. Of course, both are too proud to admit that they have no romantic experience whatsoever, leading them to bluff with advice that’s outdated and unhelpful at best, and counterproductive at worst. Somehow, though, it always ends up working out: they quickly turned Kashiwagi and her boyfriend into an happy couple, showing them the life they ''could'' have if they didn't make things unnecessarily complicated.

* PlayedForDrama in ''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'': [[spoiler:Grace is confronted with a mental construct of Hazel who points out that she's "A coward leading cowards" because she's too afraid to admit that she might be ''wrong'' on how the Train actually works -- the purpose of the train is to make the number on your hand go down to equate of you growing as a person, but Grace has told children that you're supposed to get them up by hurting others -- and the death of Tuba (a gorilla denizen) isn't just on Simon. It's also on Grace for planting the idea of wheeling denizens in the first place]].

One character, in desperate need of advice on a pressing matter, solicits the help of a second character claiming to be an expert on the subject. HilarityEnsues when it is gradually revealed that the person giving the advice is a far cry from an expert, and in fact may know even less than the person they were supposed to be helping. More often than not, neither character realizes this, and the first character, after a devastating failure, often ends up wondering what could possibly have gone wrong.

* Depressingly played with in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''. ComicBook/TheJoker refuses Batman's offer to rehabilitate him and responds with a joke pointing out the absurdity of one crazy person trying to help another crazy person. [[ActuallyPrettyFunny Then both of them start laughing maniacally.]]

* The hilarious ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2894246/1/How_to_Woo_a_Raven_By_Beast_Boy How to Woo a Raven, by Beast Boy]]'' is written as a reply from Beast Boy to his male fans, who supposedly write to him constantly and ask him to teach them how to attract girls. He's inadequate in romantic matters, and his "conquest" of Raven only happened in his mind... but he fails to realize this.

* The hens in ''WesternAnimation/ChickenRun'' mistakenly believe Rocky Rhodes knows how to fly and look to him as an instructor in order to escape the farm by flying over the fence to freedom. He doesn't; the poster Ginger saw him on was actually showing him being launched out of a cannon in the circus, not flying.
** Fowler claims to have served in the Royal Airforce, and presents the idea of building a plane to escape. [[spoiler:Turns out, he was only the mascot, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome and was never allowed to fly a plane because he's an animal]]. Nonetheless, he does fly the plane well enough to lead the hens to freedom.]] Unlike Rocky, he doesn't actually lie about this; he only gives off the impression that he was, but never once did he specify [[spoiler:being a pilot.]]

* ''Film/TheLoveGuru'' offers a similar example. Guru Pitka claims that he can teach people how to get their relationships in order, but he's saddled with tons of romantic personal problems that no reliable self-help guru would ever have. Some of his advice may be somewhat sensible, but most of it consists of [[{{Pun}} bad puns]] and [[ToiletHumor fecal jokes]].

* In ''Literature/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'':

* In [[Series/TheColbertReport Stephen Colbert's]] ''Literature/IAmAmericaAndSoCanYou'', Stephen offers the reader advice on several romantic, sexual, academic, and family matters. Anyone who seriously follows his advice had better brace themselves for a lifetime of failure and despondency.

* In ''Naked Empire'' from Terry Goodkind's ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'', a culture of StrawmanPolitical pacifists receive their wisdom and guidance from a young boy who is kept blindfolded throughout his life.

* ''Series/TheHollywoodSquares'': During the Bergeron run, Gilbert Gottfried would often claim to be an expert in the question's particular field, then provide a humorously inaccurate answer. Just picking him and saying "I disagree" before his answer was even uttered would have likely been a viable strategy. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozEIsWWngJo You Fool!]]
* From ''Series/MyHero2000'':
-->'''George''': Tyler, do you know how to run a washing machine?\\
'''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Tyler]]''': ''(enthusiastic)'' Do I know how to run a washing machine?!?\\
''(GilliganCut to Tyler and George, up to their knees in suds)''\\
'''Tyler''': No, I don't.

** In the second season episode [[Recap/CommunityS2E10MixologyCertification Mixology Certification]], Britta and Jeff lecture Troy about which drinks to take and which bars to go to... until it turns out they don't know any more than he does. They spent the entire episode arguing which of two bars are better when they're actually talking about the ''same'' bar neither knows the actual name of.
* Jerry vacillated between this trope, "semi-visually impaired leading the blind" and "guy with 20/20 vision who can't be bothered to look where he's going leading the blind" in his StraightMan role on ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''.
* ''Series/TheColbertReport'': Stephen the character lives this trope. It is especially highlighted in the ''Stephen's Sound Advice'' segments where he gives advice that is anything but sound (like panicking and arming yourself during a blackout, or to keep your online identity safe, applying for hundreds of credits cards and washing your computer with soap and water to get rid of viruses).
* In ''Series/TheRedGreenShow'', Red gives pretty good advice in his "North of Forty" segments, while he is at his fly tying bench. However, in his "Handyman Corner" segment, his advice of how to build something with the junk you have lying around and duct tape are hilariously the blind leading the blind.

* In ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', Geordi teaches Data how to paint. Riker comments on the poetic irony of the blind man teaching art to the emotionless android.
** In another episode, Wesley ends up seeking dating advice from [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]]. It isn't that Worf doesn't know about romance, it's that his advice - based on Klingon mating rituals - is entirely inapplicable to Wesley's situation and thus, entirely useless.
** It's revealed in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' that [[DrJerk the Doctor's]] social skills were programmed by Reginald Barclay, a man who described himself in his introductory episode as the guy who, at a party, will wind up examining a potted plant even after writing down things to say at said party, based on those of Dr Lewis Zimmerman, who is kind of a jerk.
** Also on ''Voyager'', Doc decides to teach Seven of Nine about dating and romance. When Tom Paris finds out, he derisively describes it as "the blind leading the blind".
* Practically any time anyone asks for advice in ''Series/WillAndGrace''. After Grace's advice backfired for Will she once claimed "Most of the time I'm just talkin outta my ass." In an earlier episode, Grace asks Karen for advice and do the opposite of what she said.
* ''Series/TheXFiles'': "Rain King" has, at one point someone asking Mulder for dating advice. On hearing about this, Scully goes silent, then quotes this trope.
* ''Series/TheCrystalMaze'' was a real-life embodiment of this trope. A game-show based on physical and mental challenges that were, at their worst, primary school-level in their required brainpower, nevertheless it seemed that every contestant had difficulty grasping such concepts as keys, simple instructions and basic maths and would require the rest of their team to call out advice. However, this advice was often counterproductive to the point where it would cause confusion and sometimes directly lead to a failure ("Jump down!" in a game where touching the floor is an automatic lock-in).
** Host Creator/RichardOBrien reactions to such stupidity became legendary. If the player of the game was a lost cause, or if Richard's advice was ignored, he would often [[DeadpanSnarker let the viewer know]], before breaking out into off-putting Harmonica music, drowning out the team's 'advice' and breaking the player's concentration. In effect, he became a kind of MusicalAssassin.
*** In at least one episode, Richard actually broke out a Fender Telecaster and amplifier.
** On rarer occasions, Richard would have an attack of WhatTheHellPlayer, haul the player out of the game room and complete it himself.

* Frank applies this to Klinger and Radar when he sees them trying to put out a fire outside the operating room in an episode of ''{{Series/MASH}}''.
* ''Series/BrooklynNineNine'': Captain Holt counsels Rosa on how to break up with her boyfriend (who happens to be his nephew) in a way which will effectively take into account his emotions. Both of these characters are TheStoic with a limited grasp of exactly how emotions work. Needless to say, it doesn't work out as planned.
-->'''Holt:''' Apparently, it is less painful [to break up with someone] if you acknowledge the dumpee's feelings.\\
'''Rosa:''' Ew.\\
'''Holt:''' Don't worry; we'll practice. I'll be Marcus.\\
'''Rosa:''' ''[clears throat; bluntly]'' Marcus, I think we should break up.\\
'''Holt:''' [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry That makes me feel sad. I'm]] ''[[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry sad]]''.\\
'''Rosa:''' Your sadness is noted.\\
'''Holt:''' I feel acknowledged. Thank you for breaking up with me. It will take me eight minutes to collect my things.\\
''[they reflect for a moment]''\\
'''Holt:''' ''[sincere]'' I think that went very well! \\
''[later, Holt comes back from talking with his husband.]'' \\
'''Holt:''' So I had Kevin go through our break-up talk, and we are apparently both "sociopaths"...

* Very common in ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''. Generally, the gang tends to gravitate to whoever is the loudest and most coherent about expressing their ideas, even if those ideas are horrible. Dennis in particular is a little smarter than the others (except ''maybe'' Frank) and the most willing to take charge, which leads to him pulling the group down incredibly dumb paths.

Don't nobody know why: it's [[TropeNamer the blind leading the blind]].

* Given a dark twist in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', much like everything else in the GrimDark setting. It might explain why the imperium is such a CrapsackWorld.

* ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'': Emil, who was educated by private tutors that apparently failed to teach him anything practical, gets a DVD mixed up with a record. Sigrun, who didn't get an education at all, trusts Emil's knowledge and decides that the [=DVD=]s are more worthwile bringing back than the old books they were sent to get. Mikkel does recognize them, knows that they are far too old to be readable, and throws them all away the next day, baffling Sigrun and suggesting she disregard any wisdom shared by Emil in the future.

* ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'': In Season 9, Tucker (CassanovaWannabe) decides to teach Church how to talk to girls.

* Patrick often gives ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' this kind of misguided advice:
** In "Tea at The Treedome", the episode where [=SpongeBob=] meets Sandy, [=SpongeBob=] goes to Patrick for advice about the mysterious concept of "air". Patrick claims she means "putting on airs", or fancy talk. His advice is to go to Sandy's and 'When In Doubt, Pinky Out'. This causes [=SpongeBob=], an aquatic animal, to slowly dry out in Sandy's "treedome". Patrick enters at one point, and the duo ends up completely drying out, but Sandy saves them with water-filled helmets (which become standard attire when visiting her). So, not only is Patrick's advice misguided, it's even dangerous.
** "Grandma's Kisses" has Patrick teaching Spongebob how to be mature, with tips such as growing sideburns, puffing out his chest, and developing an appreciation for freestyle jazz. HilarityEnsues when Patrick immediately ignores his own advice and lets Spongebob's grandma dote on him.
** "Your Shoe's Untied", where Patrick buys shoes but doesn't know how to tie them. [=SpongeBob=] tries to teach him how, but realizes he's never learned himself.
* A similar scenario in ''WesternAnimation/{{Sixteen}}'' has Caitlin teaching Wyatt how to be mature so he can attract a girl. Parodies of teenagers' conception of an adult world ensue, along with AnAesop about being yourself.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Homer Simpson tried to teach Apu all about America for Apu's citizenship test (e.g. claiming that the 13 stripes on the flag are for good luck). Afterwards, Apu was so tired and confused he didn't remember anything Homer taught him. Lisa happily declared him ready for the test. Which he passed.
** Even funnier is that Apu actually already knew more about America than Homer did. The flag Homer showed him had 47 stars, which Apu deduced must have been made during that brief period in 1912 after New Mexico became a state but before Arizona did.
*** Officially, the U.S. flag ''never'' had 47 stars; it's only updated on July 4, so in 1912 it went from 46 to 48.
** Another ''Simpsons'' example has Bart getting test answers from Milhouse. Mrs. Krabappel's response after he fails the test? "You did worse than Milhouse!"
* In an early episode of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Aang asks Sokka to teach him how to seduce a girl. It helps that Sokka himself has so much experience on the matter (read: he has talked to exactly one girl his age in his life apart from his sister, and immediately made himself immortally ridiculous in front of her. It still worked, somehow). It also helps that Sokka assumes Aang to be in love with someone entirely else than he actually is. HilarityEnsues, though Aang's efforts do end up saving a village.
** In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', it's shown that despite being the KeeperOfForbiddenKnowledge Wan Shi Tong is reliant on his fox aides to gather knowledge of the human world, who somehow came to the idea that the radio was operated by tiny men inside machines. When he's told that this is a mistake, he gives a stern glare at one of his foxes, who bows its head in shame.
* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends'', "The Big Leblooski", Mac, after being thrown off Madame Foster's bowling team for sucking, seeks help from an imaginary friend called Bowling Paul, who he assumes is an expert bowler because a) he has a ton of bowling trophies and b) ...his name's Bowling Paul and he has a head shaped like a pin. As it turns out, Paul's odd zen approach to bowling is entirely useless, and the trophies were actually won by his creator. Judging by his creator's deadpan reaction to the ten-pound ball rocketing around his bowling alley, this isn't the first time Bowling Paul has tried to help out some poor bowling-deficient soul, either.
* In a ''WesternAnimation/TwoStupidDogs'' episode, Mr. Hollwyood plays a temporarily-blind man who buys the dogs for use as guide dogs. Little Dog insists on [[ShortCutsMakeLongDelays using a shortcut]] and leads them to a construction site. HilarityEnsues.
* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Peggy Hill once led her Spanish class to Mexico for a day-trip. Pity Peggy speaks unspeakably bad Spanish, likely worse than that of some of her students, and it was no surprise when she led them to a butcher's shop thinking it was a carnival (the Spanish word for "butcher" being ''carnicero'').
** This also led to the first of many cases that point to Peggy being at least slightly deluded. After getting arrested for accidentally kidnapping a girl and taking her back to Texas (Yeah), Peggy refuses to admit she had a misunderstanding due to language. To reiterate, she thought the police officer who was interrogating her and promising to lock her up and have rats eat her face was planning to give her an award AND she naturally assumed that her lawyer in her trial was asking to go out and buy a hat when he called her to testify.

'''Meatwad''': ''{{beat}}'' Okay!

* In the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "City Sushi", [[spoiler:Butters receives therapy from a doctor with Multiple Personality Disorder, who only seems to be a competent therapist when in his normal persona.]]
* PlayedForDrama in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' with the Imperial [[HeroKiller Inquisitors]], who were personally trained in TheDarkSide by Darth Vader himself in the early days of TheEmpire... i.e. when he was a novice in its usage itself and his inability to [[BloodKnight temper his bloodlust]] got him almost killed. Additionally, because of the RuleOfTwo [[IncompletelyTrained he couldn't fully train them as Sith]], and for these reasons the vast majority of them were expendable {{mooks}} who were only good for killing Padawans and lesser Knights. This is demonstrated when the Seventh Sister and the Fifth Brother can overpower both Kanan and Ezra, but [[CurbStompBattle Ahsoka Tano (a Knight with years of experience fighting foes several levels above the Inquisitors) easily kicks their asses]]. Even Palpatine was embarrassed by them and [[SurroundedByIdiots rants about their incompetence]] in the ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Book of Sith]]''.

* PlayedForDrama in ''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'': [[spoiler:Grace is confronted with a mental construct of Hazel who points out that she's "A coward leading cowards" because she's too afraid to admit that she might be ''wrong'' on how the Train actually works -- the purpose of the train is to make the number on your hand go down to equate of you growing as a person, but Grace has told children that you're supposed to get them up by hurting others -- and the death of Tuba (a gorilla denizen) isn't just on Simon. It's also on Grace for planting the idea of wheeling denizens in the first place.]]

* For a long time (due to the BBC's lack of concern with preserving episodes and a lack of home video for most of its run) many ''Series/DoctorWho'' episodes could not be watched, leading people with no way of knowing whether past episodes had been any good or not. To solve this problem, the book ''Doctor Who: A Celebration'' was published in 1983, reviewing and summarising all episodes over the show's tenure. However, the people compiling the book hadn't seen those episodes either, so most of the reviews were guesswork based on the premises, guest stars and the author's {{Bias Steamroller}}s.

* ''Manga/SgtFrog'': Happens whenever our heroes get to explain things about Earth to other aliens. Episode 291 in particular involves Nevula getting the wrong idea about the ''onsen'' from Giroro and Kululu.

* In the Italian comedy film ''Film/{{Fantozzi}}'' (one of the many) one of the characters is so near-sighted that once he's guided by a blind man. Partly subverted because the blind man manage to lead him to the right place.
* ''Film/TheLoveGuru'' offers a similar example. Guru Pitka claims that he can teach people how to get their relationships in order, but he's saddled with tons of romantic personal problems that no reliable self-help guru would ever have. Some of his advice may be somewhat sensible, but most of it consists of [[IncrediblyLamePun bad puns]] and [[ToiletHumor fecal jokes]].

* Similar to the Colbert example above, Creator/DaveBarry has also written a few hilarious and obviously fake "self help" books that only ''Website/DarwinAwards'' candidates would take seriously.

* ''Oh, the Humanity: A Gentle Guide To Social Interaction For the Feeble Young Introvert'' is a [[FauxToGuide book on how to be social, delivered by someone with]] NoSocialSkills and an AmbiguousDisorder. It makes it pretty clear, right from the introduction, that the narrator may not be [[KnowNothingKnowItAll the expert he clearly believes he is]]:

* Literal leading example: in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', Kenpachi has NoSenseOfDirection. Seireitei is a huge maze. He has Yachiru give him directions. Yachiru ''also'' has NoSenseOfDirection. Kenpachi is strong enough to break down walls. It's a miracle there's anything left.

* A very odd variation in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf''. During the climactic showing during the first Pantyhose Taro arc, Ryoga and Mousse end up at a hot spring away from Taro's mountain hideout. [[BlindWithoutEm Mousse]] remembers the local landmarks, but has no clue where they are. [[NoSenseOfDirection Ryoga]] knows where to go, but couldn't see what the mountain looked like. They both decide to work together, resulting in Mousse pointing in the wrong direction, and Ryoga running in an even wronger direction.
* ''Manga/RamenFighterMiki'' presents ManChild ComedicSociopath Miki, who always wants to help the VictimOfTheWeek. Unfortunately, the two teens from episode 1A and Suzuki, the would-be delinquent from episode 4A, immediately recognize Miki as a KnowNothingKnowItAll, and they [[AnAesop had to solve their problems on their own]]:
-->'''Suzuki:''' ''What'' exactly ''can I learn from someone like her? ''

** What do you get when a person who's never played "King's Game" tries to play with ''other'' people who've never played "King's Game" before? The Anthology Extra Chapter, of course.

* ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'':
** When Kanna first moves into Kobayashi's apartment, Tohru takes her into town to teach her the "common sense" of Earth. While she does get a few details right, most of what she tells her is EntertaininglyWrong.
** In one chapter of ''Elma's OL Diary'', Elma tries going shopping for trendy, work appropriate clothing. Naturally, the people she gets to help her are [[ShamelessFanserviceGirl Lucoa]], and [[InnocentFanserviceGirl Ilulu]].
* A reccuring theme in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'':
** Kaguya and Shirogane occasionally get asked for romantic advice, since they’re the smartest and most popular students in school. Of course, both are too proud to admit that they have no romantic experience whatsoever, leading them to bluff with advice that’s outdated and unhelpful at best, and counterproductive at worst. Somehow, though, it always ends up working out: they quickly turned Kashiwagi and her boyfriend into an happy couple, showing them the life they ''could'' have if they didn't make things unnecessarily complicated.
** After Kaguya's disease incident, both Kaguya and Shirogane have to ask for advice, Shirogane turns to Ishigami, who is even less advanced in his love life (which is lampshaded by Ishigami).
** Kaguya, having a deficient sex education, will take Ishigami's improvised justifications as important truth, such as "boxers wearers are manwhores, contrary to briefs wearers".
** Played with when Shirogane tries to get advice from [[ButtMonkey Maki]], who lampshades that her only romantic experience is finding herself stuck in a painful IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy situation. However, Shirogane is asking for advice about Kaguya, who has a very similar personality to Maki herself, so she's actually able to give some genuinely helpful insights.
** Tsubame, being TheDitherer, can't make her mind about Ishigami's love confession, so she asks her friends Yume and Shizuku. First time she did, she followed Yume's advice and seriously hurt Ishigami. Second time, they end up pointing neither of them was ever involved in a serious relationship like Tsubame, so why ask them?
** When Ishigami tells Kaguya that he's trying to plan out a date with [[spoiler:Tsubame]], she turns to Hayasaka for advice. The stoic NinjaMaid quickly whips out a detailed date plan, but as Kaguya looks closer, it becomes clear that the plan is essentially just Hayaska's ideal fantasy, as she's never even been to the location in question. Kaguya feels bad about being InnocentlyInsensitive, but still presents the plan to Ishigami, who comments that there's numerous logistical problems that make the plan unworkable.

* The hilarious ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2894246/1/How_to_Woo_a_Raven_By_Beast_Boy How to Woo a Raven, by Beast Boy]]'' is written as a reply from Beast Boy to his male fans, who supposedly write to him constantly and ask him to teach them how to attract girls. He's inadequate in romantic matters, and his "conquest" of Raven only happened in his mind... but he fails to realize this.

* A serious version occurs in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12425636/15/Dragon-Knight Dragon Knight]]'' where it turns out the Watchers have been teaching Slayers how to fight wrong for centuries. Because all Watchers either are men or were taught to fight by men, they don't realize women are meant to fight differently. Xander's wife Audrey notes that Buffy doesn't even know the correct way to make a fist and after learning the proper way, Buffy's amazed that she can punch something without hurting her hand.

* Jack Skellington in ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'' wants to share the joy of Christmas with everyone in Halloween Town, but his subjects don't get it and, because it's almost as new to him as it is to them, Jack can't find the words to explain it to them.

* ''Film/TheLoveGuru'' offers a similar example. Guru Pitka claims that he can teach people how to get their relationships in order, but he's saddled with tons of romantic personal problems that no reliable self-help guru would ever have. Some of his advice may be somewhat sensible, but most of it consists of [[IncrediblyLamePun bad puns]] and [[ToiletHumor fecal jokes]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/HomeMovies'' It's revealed that Coach [=McGuirk=] is tutoring Brendan in history. Most of the lessons he gives are mostly [[ConspiracyTheorist conspiracy theories,]] and [[CriticalResearchFailure completely inaccurate information such as Nixon giving the Gettysburg Address.]] Consequently, when Brendan makes a movie featuring several historical figures, all the information is faulty, and worse, he's flunking history in school.

** Kaguya and Shirogane occasionally get asked for romantic advice, since they’re the smartest and most popular students in school. Of course, both are too proud to admit that they have no romantic experience whatsoever, leading them to bluff with advice that’s outdated and unhelpful at best, and counterproductive at worst. Somehow, though, it always ends up working out: they quickly turned Kashiwagi and her boyfriend into an happy couple, showing them the life they ''could'' have if they didn't make things unnecessary complicated.

* In ''Fanfic/ServiceWithASmile'', Jaune tries to get romantic advice from Ruby who has even less experience than he does, leading to them reading Blake's PornStash. Later when he has a date with Miltia, his friends can give him proper advice because none of them (except maybe Yang and Coco) have been on dates before.

** There have been some terrible, terrible accusations that the ''Guide'' itself may be an example, as it is notoriously unreliable. However the Guide is definitive, reality is sometimes in error though.

** In the second season episode [[Recap/CommunityS2E10MixologyCertification Mixology Certification]], Britta and Jeff lecture Troy about which drinks to take and which bars to go to... until it turns out they don't know any more than he does. They spent the entire episodes arguing which of two bars are better when they're actually talking about the ''same'' bar neither knows the actual name of.

* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'': Any time Calvin asks Hobbes for help with his arithmetic. [[http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1988/01/05/ This]] is a good example.

* ''Webcomic/MenageA3'': Yvan, a games company manager who interviews lead character Gary for an artist job, finds out a little about Gary's dating history, concludes (correctly) that it's impressive and hence (very, very incorrectly) that Gary is an expert at dealing with women -- and hires Gary on condition that Gary helps him with his own, unsuccessful dating life.

** In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', it's shown that despite being the KeeperOfForbiddenKnowledge Wan Shi Tong is reliant on his fox aides to gather knowledge of the human world, who somehow came to the idea that the radio was operated by tiny men inside machines. When he realizes his mistake, he gives a stern glare at one of his foxes, who bows its head in shame.

'''Meatwad''': {{beat}} Okay!

Compare DependingOnTheUndependable.

* From ''Series/MyHero'':

%%* From ''Series/RedDwarf''
--> \\
LISTER: There. I think that's it; boot him up. \\
KOCHANSKI: You're ''sure'' you know what you're doing?\\
LISTER: Hey... \\
KRYTEN: Ketchup?? With * lobster* , you want -- \\
KOCHANSKI: I thought you said you knew what you were doing! \\
LISTER: No, I just said 'hey'. If you'd let me finish the whole sentence it'd have been: 'hey... no I don't'.

* From ''Series/RedDwarf''

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** after Kaguya's disease incident, both Kaguya and Shirogane have to ask for advice, Shirogane turns to Ishigami, who is even less advanced in his love life. (lampshaded by Ishigami).

-->'''Sakura:''' ''Why has it been made possible?!''

** It's revealed in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' that [[DrJerk the Doctor's]] social skills were programmed by Reginald Barclay, a man who described himself in his introductory episode as the guy who, at a party, will be examining the potted plant because he's not confident enough to involve himself in any conversations, based on those of Dr Lewis Zimmerman, who is kind of a jerk.

** Mikoshiba asks Nozaki to help him practice for a mixer. He quickly regrets that decision--Nozaki has no experience in those and his conceptions was coloured by the drama commonly seen [[SequentialArtist in his trade]].
** Kashima asks Mikoshiba how to get Hori to notice her more. Using [[{{Otaku}} his vast experience]] [[DatingSim with this situation]], his advice boils down to essentially being an [[ClingyJealousGirl aggressively clingy girl]]. Surely enough, Hori later complains to Nozaki and Sakura that Kashima was being "super annoying as of late".

* In ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'', Kaguya and Shirogane occasionally get asked for romantic advice, since they’re the smartest and most popular students in school. Of course, both are too proud to admit that they have no romantic experience whatsoever, leading them to bluff with advice that’s outdated and unhelpful at best, and counterproductive at worst. Somehow, though, it always ends up working out.

* Very common in ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''. Generally, the gang tends to gravitate to whoever is the loudest and most coherent about expressing their ideas, even if those ideas are horrible. Dennis in particular is a little smarter than the others and the most willing to take charge, which leads to him pulling the group down incredibly dumb paths.

** In the episode where [=SpongeBob=] meets Sandy, [=SpongeBob=] goes to Patrick for advice about the mysterious concept of "air". Patrick claims she means "putting on airs", or fancy talk. His advice is to go to Sandy's and 'When In Doubt, Pinky Out'. This causes [=SpongeBob=], an aquatic animal, to slowly dry out in Sandy's "treedome". Patrick enters at one point, and the duo ends up completely drying out, but Sandy saves them with water-filled helmets (which become standard attire when visiting her). So, not only is Patrick's advice misguided, it's even dangerous.
** One episode has Patrick teaching Spongebob how to be mature, with tips such as growing sideburns, puffing out his chest, and developing an appreciation for freestyle jazz. HilarityEnsues when Patrick immediately ignores his own advice and lets Spongebob's grandma dote on him.

* ''Manga/MutekiKanbanMusume'' presents ManChild ComedicSociopath Miki, who always wants to help the VictimOfTheWeek. Unfortunately, the two teens from episode 1A and Suzuki, the would-be delinquent from episode 4A, immediately recognize Miki as a KnowNothingKnowItAll, and they [[AnAesop had to solve their problems on their own]]:

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