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5th May '16 5:50:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Shakara}}'': The fellow members of The Hierarchy that the Overlord was planning on betraying go back in time to stop him before he can carry out his plan. He compliments their ingenuity but mocks their attempt, pointing out that this would only create a temporal paradox that would result in an alternate timeline, it wouldn't stop what they've already seen him do in the future. However, even that rests on the assumption that [[CurbStompBattle he could be killed to begin with]].
31st Mar '16 7:18:07 AM Nightmask
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*** Except there's no reason to think there IS an Object Loop occurring, other than Kirk's offhand comment, since the glasses he sold could have easily simply been lost and destroyed over time while the version that existed at that time continued on into the future to become the pair that Kirk sold in the past.
30th Mar '16 8:53:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/Interstellar'' features a semi-temporal paradox, baring a similarity to the Reverse Grandfather Paradox. All of the scenarios in the Paradox are initiated by [[spoiler:Cooper and TARS manipulating space-time inside the Tesseract.]]

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* ''Film/Interstellar'' ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' features a semi-temporal paradox, baring a similarity to the Reverse Grandfather Paradox. All of the scenarios in the Paradox are initiated by [[spoiler:Cooper and TARS manipulating space-time inside the Tesseract.]]
29th Mar '16 5:35:55 PM Godzillawolf
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* ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends''. In the ''Challenge'' episode, "Secret Origins Of The Super Friends," the Legion of Doom tries to change history by messing with the origins of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern. Okay, but seeing as how much of Super Friends is based on Pre-''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' lore and hence Luthor's baldness and StartOfDarkness were both accidently caused by Superman when he was Superboy, how can Luthor-- and as its founder, the Legion of Doom itself--exist if Superboy was never there to cause what happened to Luthor? Likewise, given his origins even Pre-Crisis involved someone copying Superman, how does Bizarro continue to exist as well? This also applies, to a lesser extent, to the others. Sinestro's crimes were exposed by Hal Jordan; maybe eventually, someone else would have, but it was Hal's newbie attitude that caused him to question an otherwise model Green Lantern; shift the timeframe and he maybe never meets the [=LoD=]. Most Cheetah origins have Wonder Woman involved in some way, at least some as Cheetah feeling challenged by her existence. Also, take Luthor grabbing Abin Sur's ring. That might get the Guardians' attention. Also, without those three, and especially Big S, would the SF have even formed, and since the [=LoD=] formed out of fear of this group…the list goes crazy on. Ah, everyone know time travelers are [[AWizardDidIt surrounded by a temporal bubble]] that prevents them from being affected by their own alterations in the timesteam. The real question is: if the Legion of Doom could see through time to spy on the "secret origins" of the heroes, how do they not know the entire Justice League's secret identities?

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* ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends''. In the ''Challenge'' episode, "Secret Origins Of The Super Friends," the Legion of Doom tries to change history by messing with the origins of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern. Okay, but seeing as how much of Super Friends is based on Pre-''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' lore and hence Luthor's baldness and StartOfDarkness were both accidently accidentally caused by Superman when he was Superboy, how can Luthor-- and as its founder, the Legion of Doom itself--exist if Superboy was never there to cause what happened to Luthor? Likewise, given his origins even Pre-Crisis involved someone copying Superman, how does Bizarro continue to exist as well? This also applies, to a lesser extent, to the others. Sinestro's crimes were exposed by Hal Jordan; maybe eventually, someone else would have, but it was Hal's newbie attitude that caused him to question an otherwise model Green Lantern; shift the timeframe and he maybe never meets the [=LoD=]. Most Cheetah origins have Wonder Woman involved in some way, at least some as Cheetah feeling challenged by her existence. Also, take Luthor grabbing Abin Sur's ring. That might get the Guardians' attention. Also, without those three, and especially Big S, would the SF have even formed, and since the [=LoD=] formed out of fear of this group…the list goes crazy on. Ah, everyone know time travelers are [[AWizardDidIt surrounded by a temporal bubble]] that prevents them from being affected by their own alterations in the timesteam. The real question is: if the Legion of Doom could see through time to spy on the "secret origins" of the heroes, how do they not know the entire Justice League's secret identities? identities?
* Starlight Glimmer's revenge plot in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' results in this: she travels back in time to prevent the Sonic Rainboom that gave the Mane Six their Cutie Marks...to get revenge on them for foiling her actions in Our Town in the season premier, meaning she'd negate her own reason for going back in time in the first place. Though her and Twilight seem to be immune to the timeline changes. Unlike many events, this actually ''does'' cause serious issues: each change to the past she makes causes a BadFuture worse and worse than the last.
8th Mar '16 7:06:15 PM Midna
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' special, "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker". Timmy goes back in time to find out why Crocker was so miserable and to try to fix it. He finds out that as a child, Crocker ''himself'' had fairy godparents--and that they were Cosmo and Wanda, something that they don't remember--and figures out that he must've done something to lose his fairies. He tries to warn the young Crocker, but inadvertently ends up being the one who reveals the secret (with some help from both '70s Cosmo ''and'' modern Cosmo's stupidity). Furthermore, as Jorgen shows up to erase everyone's memories of there being fairies, young Crocker manages to get his hands on the DNA tracker that AJ had built so that they'd know when Crocker was around, ''and'' managed to get Cosmo's DNA to use in it, ''and'' managed to covertly write a memo on the back of it that fairy godparents exist without Jorgen noticing, allowing him to keep that knowledge after his memory of fairies was erased...<script id="gpt-impl-0.6509655509144068" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_72.js"></script>which means that if Timmy had never interfered, Crocker would be neither miserable nor fairy-obsessed. However, whereas when Timmy left for the past, Crocker was using a very primitive and likely useless "fairy finder", the Crocker in the present that Timmy returned to was using the tracker that AJ had built, implying that he ''had'' created an alternate timeline, and leaving one to wonder what happened in the original timeline. Of course, considering it's explicitly stated in TheMovie that few kids keep their fairies past their first year, much less until adulthood when they would leave ''anyway'', we can guess...

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' special, "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker". Timmy goes back in time to find out why Crocker was so miserable and to try to fix it. He finds out that as a child, Crocker ''himself'' had fairy godparents--and that they were Cosmo and Wanda, something that they don't remember--and figures out that he must've done something to lose his fairies. He tries to warn the young Crocker, but inadvertently ends up being the one who reveals the secret (with some help from both '70s Cosmo ''and'' modern Cosmo's stupidity). Furthermore, as Jorgen shows up to erase everyone's memories of there being fairies, young Crocker manages to get his hands on the DNA tracker that AJ had built so that they'd know when Crocker was around, ''and'' managed to get Cosmo's DNA to use in it, ''and'' managed to covertly write a memo on the back of it that fairy godparents exist without Jorgen noticing, allowing him to keep that knowledge after his memory of fairies was erased...<script id="gpt-impl-0.6509655509144068" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_72.js"></script>which which means that if Timmy had never interfered, Crocker would be neither miserable nor fairy-obsessed. However, whereas when Timmy left for the past, Crocker was using a very primitive and likely useless "fairy finder", the Crocker in the present that Timmy returned to was using the tracker that AJ had built, implying that he ''had'' created an alternate timeline, and leaving one to wonder what happened in the original timeline. Of course, considering it's explicitly stated in TheMovie that few kids keep their fairies past their first year, much less until adulthood when they would leave ''anyway'', we can guess...
24th Feb '16 10:27:17 AM Blazer
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* In ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentAvengers'', the team makes sure to prevent this: [[spoiler:Kang ends up knocking the Sam Wilson Captain America and Jane Foster Thor three days into the future, making sure that Thor lost the hammer. Cap gets Jane back to the hammer where it fell three days prior and use it to return to the present, then proceed to ''weaponize'' Temporal Paradox to drive Kang out. At Iron Man's suggestion, Thor drops the present day hammer in a spot so that she can find it once more without construction crews finding it and trying (and failing) to move it.]]
20th Feb '16 8:30:21 PM Soble
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* ''Fanfic/EggmanGenerations has Eggman consider this when his younger self, as per the ending of Sonic Generations, consider going into teaching rather than world conquest. Despite this, Eggman notes that the decision hasn't affected his own existence.

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* ''Fanfic/EggmanGenerations ''Fanfic/EggmanGenerations'' has Eggman consider this when his younger self, as per the ending of Sonic Generations, consider going into teaching rather than world conquest. Despite this, Eggman notes that the decision hasn't affected his own existence.
20th Feb '16 8:27:39 PM Soble
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* ''Fanfic/EggmanGenerations has Eggman consider this when his younger self, as per the ending of Sonic Generations, consider going into teaching rather than world conquest. Despite this, Eggman notes that the decision hasn't affected his own existence.
17th Feb '16 6:30:10 PM ArcticJack
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** The entire story line of Clara is this, as The Doctor didn't die on Trenzalore, which means that she never jumped into his time stream, which means that the two previous Claras that died were never born, and The Doctor has no reason to ever go looking for the original Clara.
19th Jan '16 4:57:19 AM SolidSonicTH
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*** This same paradox occurs in "The Why of Fry" and the Scootie Puff, Sr. but there it works out just fine (Fry tells Nibbler in the past to give him a better escape craft during the Infosphere mission, the Nibblonians give him one, and he escapes before the quantum interface bomb sends the Infosphere to the other dimension, which is not what happened the first time and invalidates the event that made it possible for him to go back in time in the first place).

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*** This same paradox occurs in "The Why of Fry" and with the Scootie Puff, Sr. but there it works out just fine (Fry tells Nibbler in the past to give him a better escape craft during the Infosphere mission, the Nibblonians give him one, and he escapes before the quantum interface bomb sends the Infosphere to the other dimension, which is not what happened the first time and invalidates the event that made it possible for him to go back in time in the first place).
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