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21st Nov '16 7:08:07 PM PaulA
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** The same "make spells using assembly language" idea is used in Gordon R Dickson's novel ''The Dragon Knight''.

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** * The same "make spells using assembly language" idea is used in Gordon R Dickson's Creator/GordonRDickson's novel ''The Dragon Knight''.''Literature/TheDragonKnight''.
16th Oct '16 10:44:18 PM Alas_Poor_Donny
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*** This is the general approach of the prime sphere, finding the regular patterns in the energies that allow magic to be treated like mundane energy or materials.
*** Rote spells are also described as the end result of this process, where a single effect is refined to the point where use of the spell relies on a mundane ability and sphere knowledge instead of mystical intuition.
11th Oct '16 10:05:50 AM Oddstar6
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* Many nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation practices were enforced for mystical or religious reasons [[RightForTheWrongReasons long before the scientific principles for why they are a good idea were well-understood]]. The ancients may not have known exactly why eating pork and shellfish tended to make you sick in the Time Before Refrigerators, but as a deterrent, "God doesn't want you to eat pork and shellfish and will curse you if you do!" works as well as anything else. Same goes for the originally Jewish practice of boiling water before consumption as dictated by God's law; nowadays we of course know that it's actually pathogens causing sickness.
28th Sep '16 7:03:37 PM ZerroDefex
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** In a later side story featuring one of her ancestors who has come under attack from a electrical weapon:
-->'''Ghengis Ht'rok-din:''' "GRAH! Vat kind uf sufficiently advanced technology iz dis!?!"
11th Aug '16 7:48:10 PM ZombieAladdin
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** In ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'', the Hidden Leaf Village gains an R&D department, complete with researchers in white lab coats and hallways lined with glass with experiments being performed inside. Presumably, other major ninja villages have similar departments.
10th Aug '16 9:07:08 PM nombretomado
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* In Katherine Kurtz's ''[[{{Deryni}} Camber the Heretic]]'', A Healer who is treating a Deryni with a head injury inadvertently turns off his patient's powers. Further testing shows that the technique also conceals the existence of those powers from other people (even down to physical reactions to a Deryni-specific drug), and turns up only one other Healer able to perform it. The protagonists devise a baptismal cult to turn off the powers of Deryni and send them into hiding in advance of a wave of persecution.

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* In Katherine Kurtz's ''[[{{Deryni}} ''[[Literature/{{Deryni}} Camber the Heretic]]'', A Healer who is treating a Deryni with a head injury inadvertently turns off his patient's powers. Further testing shows that the technique also conceals the existence of those powers from other people (even down to physical reactions to a Deryni-specific drug), and turns up only one other Healer able to perform it. The protagonists devise a baptismal cult to turn off the powers of Deryni and send them into hiding in advance of a wave of persecution.
2nd Aug '16 9:41:46 AM intastiel
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Unsounded}}'', pymary is essentially a programming language executed on the machinery of the universe, with precise instructions for re-allocating Aspects of reality, constant research and scholarly publication on new and improved spell commands, and pre-assembled spells that any dabbler can borrow with minimal training. "Magic" in the setting refers exclusively to the fantastic and inexplicable, whereas pymary is a hard science.
31st Jul '16 4:30:51 AM VVK
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** In "Feeling Pinkie Keen", Twilight spends the entire episode trying to debunk Pinkie Pie's claim of having a psychic [[SpiderSense "Pinkie Sense"]]. When Pinkie points out that [[ArbitrarySkepticism Twilight herself can do magic]], she claims that her talent is a science, instead of something [[WildMagic random]] like Pinkie's. Magic happens to be a natural trait of unicorn ponies like Twilight, and her friend Rarity demonstrates similar abilities.

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** In "Feeling Pinkie Keen", Twilight spends the entire episode trying to debunk Pinkie Pie's claim of having a psychic [[SpiderSense "Pinkie Sense"]]. When Pinkie points out that [[ArbitrarySkepticism Twilight herself can do magic]], she claims that her talent is a science, instead of something [[WildMagic random]] like Pinkie's. Magic happens Twilight ''tries'' to be a natural trait of unicorn ponies like Twilight, and analyse how Pinkie Sense works, too, but it proves unanalysable ([[StrawVulcan at least by her friend Rarity demonstrates similar abilities.narrow-minded methods]]).
31st Jul '16 4:28:03 AM VVK
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
** In "Boast Busters", Twilight Sparkle is seen experimenting to find out what magic, exactly, she is capable of.
** In "Feeling Pinkie Keen", she spends the entire episode trying to debunk Pinkie Pie's claim of having a psychic [[SpiderSense "Pinkie Sense"]]. When Pinkie points out that [[ArbitrarySkepticism Twilight herself can do magic]], she claims that her talent is a science, instead of something [[WildMagic random]] like Pinkie's. Magic happens to be a natural trait of unicorn ponies like Twilight, and her friend Rarity demonstrates similar abilities.
** In 'Bridle Gossip', Twilight again describes how rational, scientific magic differs from curses and mumbo-jumbo the others claim are coming from a stranger in the woods.
** It's implied the reason Twilight is able to [[PowerCopying mimic most spells merely by seeing them in action]] is because of this. Because she's intelligent enough to analyze exactly what's going on to make the spell work, she's able to mimic it. She's even capable of casting inherent spells like Rarity's gem-finder and Celestia's ''dark magic'' simply by watching and analyzing it as it's cast.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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In "Boast Busters", ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', magic, though requiring innate ability, can be learnt from books, and this is certainly how [[TheSmartGuy Twilight Sparkle is seen experimenting Sparkle]] approaches it. She's insistent that there are rational rules to find out what magic, exactly, she is capable of.
how magic works, although we aren't actually told that many of them.
** In "Feeling Pinkie Keen", she Twilight spends the entire episode trying to debunk Pinkie Pie's claim of having a psychic [[SpiderSense "Pinkie Sense"]]. When Pinkie points out that [[ArbitrarySkepticism Twilight herself can do magic]], she claims that her talent is a science, instead of something [[WildMagic random]] like Pinkie's. Magic happens to be a natural trait of unicorn ponies like Twilight, and her friend Rarity demonstrates similar abilities.
** In 'Bridle Gossip', "Bridle Gossip", Twilight again describes how rational, scientific magic differs from curses and mumbo-jumbo the others claim are coming from a stranger in the woods.
** It's implied the reason Twilight is able to [[PowerCopying mimic most spells merely by seeing them in action]] is because of this. Because she's intelligent enough to analyze exactly what's going on to make the spell work, she's able to mimic it. She's even capable of casting inherent spells like Rarity's gem-finder and Celestia's ''dark magic'' simply by watching and analyzing it as it's cast.
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10th Jul '16 12:58:05 PM TheNicestGuy
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* There is a fair bit of this in ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura''. MagicVersusScience is a major theme of the setting, to the point that "magick" and "technology" are opposite ends of a single aptitude scale on your character sheet. It's a fundamental truth that the two cannot coexist in any great power, and the rational proponents of the new technology are hard at work on researching ''why''.
-->Begin the experiment with your Inclined Plane at its most acute angle, nearly flat upon the table. Take Block A, and place it on Inclined Plane C: note that the Block does not slide. [...] Introduce a Magickal Artifacte into the system. Slowly bring it into the vicinity of Inclined Plane C. Notice that Block A begins to slide haltingly downward!
--->--''Principia Technologica'', being the collected lectures of Sir Harris Guffingford, A Helpful Illustration of the Principles of Science, Chapter the Fourth: On the Eternal Conflict Between Natural and Supernatural Forces
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