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20th Nov '16 5:46:19 PM SuperFeatherYoshi
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* In ''FanFic/ParallelRealities'', Mordin [[TakingTheBullet takes a pistol shot]] meant for Eve (or Anahit, as she's referred to in the story) and dies, making him one of the few canon characters that's KilledOffForReal in the story. Even though Eve, being a krogan, probably could have shrugged off that shot.
9th Nov '16 7:07:45 PM BenOfHouston
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* Shining Armor's decision to fall back and battle King Sombra to buy the [[FanNickname Mane Six]] time to get to the Crystal Empire in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is pretty dumb, considering he could have just thrown up a shield of his own (he's capable of enveloping ''all of Canterlot'' with one for extended periods of time). Even if Sombra ''could'' break the shield with ease, they only needed a couple of spare seconds to make it. Instead he goes [[TheWorfBarrage head-on into battle and is rendered completely powerless for his efforts]].

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* Shining Armor's decision to fall back and battle King Sombra to buy the [[FanNickname Mane Six]] time to get to the Crystal Empire in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is pretty dumb, considering he could have just thrown up a shield of his own (he's capable of enveloping ''all of Canterlot'' with one for extended periods of time). Even if Sombra ''could'' break the shield with ease, they only needed a couple of spare seconds to make it. Instead he goes [[TheWorfBarrage [[TheWorfEffect head-on into battle and is rendered completely powerless for his efforts]].
9th Nov '16 7:07:19 PM BenOfHouston
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* Shining Armor's decision to fall back and battle King Sombra to buy the [[FanNickname Mane Six]] time to get to the Crystal Empire in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is pretty dumb, considering he could have just thrown up a shield of his own (he's capable of enveloping ''all of Canterlot'' with one for extended periods of time). Even if Sombra ''could'' break the shield with ease, they only needed a couple of spare seconds to make it. Instead he goes head-on into battle and is rendered completely powerless for his efforts.

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* Shining Armor's decision to fall back and battle King Sombra to buy the [[FanNickname Mane Six]] time to get to the Crystal Empire in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is pretty dumb, considering he could have just thrown up a shield of his own (he's capable of enveloping ''all of Canterlot'' with one for extended periods of time). Even if Sombra ''could'' break the shield with ease, they only needed a couple of spare seconds to make it. Instead he goes [[TheWorfBarrage head-on into battle and is rendered completely powerless for his efforts.efforts]].
6th Nov '16 3:53:28 PM Az_Tech341
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** Ditto Selvaria, whose sacrifice failed on every possible level. She could have just killed everybody at Ghirlandaio with regular weapons and gotten the same result, except it'd take longer and she'd be alive. Moreover, since she negotiated for Squad 7 to be spared in order for them to escort her own soldiers home, she ensured her sacrifice meant nothing, since Squad 7 is the one that has ''the now-unopposed other Valkyria in it''. In this case, however, the stupidity of the act is part of the tragedy; She had been ordered to do it by her [[SubordinateExcuse beloved superior]] who decided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness She Had Outlived Her Usefulness]] now that he had a means to give himself her powers.

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** Ditto Selvaria, whose sacrifice failed on every possible level. She could have just killed everybody at Ghirlandaio with regular weapons and gotten the same result, except it'd take longer and she'd be alive. Moreover, since she negotiated for Squad 7 to be spared in order for them to escort her own soldiers home, she ensured her sacrifice meant nothing, since Squad 7 is the one that has ''the now-unopposed other Valkyria in it''. In this case, however, the stupidity of the act is part of the tragedy; She she had been ordered to do it by her [[SubordinateExcuse beloved superior]] who decided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness She Had Outlived Her Usefulness]] she had outlived her usefulness]] now that he had a means to give himself her powers.
6th Nov '16 12:01:38 PM SSJMagus
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** Jiraiya had an opportunity to escape from Pain, but went back to fight in the face of certain death in order to uncover the villain's true identity. But the problem is, ''Jiraiya had basically already figured it out'', all he did by going back and dying was verify what he had already suspected. And since he died shortly after doing so, Jiraiya wasn't able to explain it to anybody else, instead writing a coded message on the back of one of his toad summons...which for some reason used a code that Jiraiya had never taught to anybody else, thus requiring his allies to break the code and which even after decoding was such a cryptic message as to be of little use. And to make matters worse, when Pain launched his attack on Konoha, ''Naruto figured out the same thing that Jiraiya had all by himself, without even knowing about the message from Jiraiya.''
6th Nov '16 10:08:11 AM SAMAS
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** The same is also said of [[spoiler: Talia Gladys']] decision to stay in the crashing Messiah at the end of ''Destiny''. Thematically, it could be said to be a final act as [[spoiler: Rey's Mother figure (and whether Rey's own fate was necessary is a discussion for another day)]], but it completely ignores [[spoiler: her ''actual'' child, whom admittedly is only mentioned as part of her backstory]].



** Ditto Selvaria, whose sacrifice failed on every possible level. She could have just killed everybody at Ghirlandaio with regular weapons and gotten the same result, except it'd take longer and she'd be alive. Moreover, since she negotiated for Squad 7 to be spared in order for them to escort her own soldiers home, she ensured her sacrifice meant nothing, since Squad 7 is the one that has ''the now-unopposed other Valkyria in it''.

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** Ditto Selvaria, whose sacrifice failed on every possible level. She could have just killed everybody at Ghirlandaio with regular weapons and gotten the same result, except it'd take longer and she'd be alive. Moreover, since she negotiated for Squad 7 to be spared in order for them to escort her own soldiers home, she ensured her sacrifice meant nothing, since Squad 7 is the one that has ''the now-unopposed other Valkyria in it''. In this case, however, the stupidity of the act is part of the tragedy; She had been ordered to do it by her [[SubordinateExcuse beloved superior]] who decided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness She Had Outlived Her Usefulness]] now that he had a means to give himself her powers.
27th Oct '16 11:59:02 AM merotoker
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* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' has [[spoiler: a tornado appear in the middle of a busy interstate so the Kent family evacuates the car, but Pa Kent sees a dog still stuck in the car and ''goes to get the dog.'' Of course, the tornado bears down on him and Clark moves to save him, but Pa Kent just holds out his hand and for some reason, Clark obeys. The stupidity is outrageous for the following reasons: (1) Pa Kent is at a pretty big distance, so the likelihood that anyone could see Clark save him over through the debris is minimal (2) there have actually been cases that animals survive being thrown by tornadoes because they are small, light, and don't tense up the way that people do in high stress situations, so Pa Kent sacrificed himself for an animal that may not have even died in the first place. (3) At that point, Clark saving the bus full of children had been a known by some people in the town, so if he did use super-speed to save his father, it probably wouldn't have even been that big of a deal. (4) Clark later mentions to Lois that if he was exposed to the public, he could just go into hiding as he's done it before, so if someone DID happen to see him using his powers to save his father, he could just leave. There really is no excuse for this scene other than they wanted Clark feel guilty about arguing with his father before he died]].

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* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' has [[spoiler: a tornado appear in the middle of a busy interstate so the Kent family evacuates the car, but Pa Kent sees a dog still stuck in the car and ''goes to get the dog.'' Of course, the tornado bears down on him and Clark moves to save him, but Pa Kent just holds out his hand and for some reason, Clark obeys. The stupidity is outrageous for the following reasons: (1) Pa Kent is at a pretty big distance, so the likelihood that anyone could see Clark save him over through the debris is minimal (2) there have actually been cases that animals survive being thrown by tornadoes because they are small, light, and don't tense up the way that people do in high stress situations, so Pa Kent sacrificed himself for an animal that may not have even died in the first place. (3) At that point, Clark saving the bus full of children had been a known by some people in the town, so if he did use super-speed to save his father, it probably wouldn't have even been that big of a deal. (4) Clark later mentions to Lois that if he was exposed to the public, he could just go into hiding as he's done it before, so if someone DID happen to see him using his powers to save his father, he could just leave. There really is no excuse for this scene other than they wanted Clark feel guilty about arguing with his father before he died]].



* A rare example where the ''villain'' pulls one of these is in the penultimate episode of ''PersonOfInterest''. Greer and Finch are locked in a room together, and Greer is able to trick Finch into admitting only he has the power to deploy the virus that can destroy Samaritan. In response to this Greer has all the oxygen from the room sucked out, knowing it will kill him but will also kill Finch thus eliminating the threat to Samaritan. Seeing as how he planned this there's no reason why he couldn't have immobilized Finch in some way prior and gave himself an escape route, or simply brought an oxygen mask. Furthermore it turns out to be a SenselessSacrifice as the rest of Team Machine show up in time to rescue Finch ''anyway''.

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* A rare example where the ''villain'' pulls one of these is in the penultimate episode of ''PersonOfInterest''.''Series/PersonOfInterest''. Greer and Finch are locked in a room together, and Greer is able to trick Finch into admitting only he has the power to deploy the virus that can destroy Samaritan. In response to this Greer has all the oxygen from the room sucked out, knowing it will kill him but will also kill Finch thus eliminating the threat to Samaritan. Seeing as how he planned this there's no reason why he couldn't have immobilized Finch in some way prior and gave himself an escape route, or simply brought an oxygen mask. Furthermore it turns out to be a SenselessSacrifice as the rest of Team Machine show up in time to rescue Finch ''anyway''.



** [[LoveInterest Ali]][[TheHeart cia's]] attempt to use the [[TakingYouWithMe Final Flame]]. Thankfully it's an inversion because when you [[FridgeLogic consider]] that the whole point of her trying to blow up the Marmota with her powers was to save her friends and the capital, there's the matter of how close they are to said capital when she tries it. The blast radius is ''huge'' on that attack. If she'd managed to do it, Squad 7, and possibly Randgriz, would have been vaporized in the process.

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** [[LoveInterest [[LoveInterests Ali]][[TheHeart cia's]] attempt to use the [[TakingYouWithMe Final Flame]]. Thankfully it's an inversion because when you [[FridgeLogic consider]] that the whole point of her trying to blow up the Marmota with her powers was to save her friends and the capital, there's the matter of how close they are to said capital when she tries it. The blast radius is ''huge'' on that attack. If she'd managed to do it, Squad 7, and possibly Randgriz, would have been vaporized in the process.



* Happens in the final storyline mission of the [=iOS=] space-sim ''GalaxyOnFire''. Your PlayerCharacter and his LoveInterest encounter the BigBad in his fighter. Instead of engaging him together and doubling your chances, she rushes the BigBad and gets taken out with a few shots, leaving you to scream out a BigNo and fight the buy on your own... and beat him fairly quickly. And the storyline end also signals OpeningTheSandbox‎, although the game gets boring after that.

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* Happens in the final storyline mission of the [=iOS=] space-sim ''GalaxyOnFire''. ''VideoGame/GalaxyOnFire''. Your PlayerCharacter and his LoveInterest {{Love Interest|s}} encounter the BigBad in his fighter. Instead of engaging him together and doubling your chances, she rushes the BigBad and gets taken out with a few shots, leaving you to scream out a BigNo and fight the buy on your own... and beat him fairly quickly. And the storyline end also signals OpeningTheSandbox‎, although the game gets boring after that.
14th Oct '16 5:29:28 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' calls attention to this in regards to Pearl's senseless desire to protect Rose, to the point of throwing herself in front of oncoming attacks. Never mind Rose was a much older, more seasoned warrior than her, but her signature weapon was a magical ''shield'', which she was shown to already have out and at the ready before Pearl jumped in. Pearl's actions are implied to stem from a combination of [[LoveMartyr fanatic love]] and a [[ICantBelieveAGuyLikeYouWouldNoticeMe severe inferiority complex.]] It's probably good [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Gems regenerate]] or we never would've met Pearl in the show canon.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' calls attention to this in regards to Pearl's senseless desire to protect Rose, to the point of throwing herself in front of oncoming attacks. Never attacks, never mind that she's a GlassCannon and Rose was a much older, more seasoned warrior than her, but her signature weapon was a magical ''shield'', which she was shown to already have out and at the ready before Pearl jumped in.BarrierWarrior. Pearl's actions are implied to stem from a combination of [[LoveMartyr fanatic love]] and a [[ICantBelieveAGuyLikeYouWouldNoticeMe severe inferiority complex.]] It's probably good [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Gems regenerate]] or we never would've met Pearl in the show canon.she would have been exclusively a flashback character.
7th Oct '16 5:19:56 AM CNR4806
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*** This has bitten him in the ass after his death, as the power vacuum left behind by the entire Atha cabinet committing suicide was filled by the Alliance-friendly Seiran family, which kicked off much of [[MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Destiny's]] plot to Orb's misery.
21st Sep '16 8:13:27 AM Gess
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* In ''{{Silver}}'' the Hero and his grandfather are pursued by [[TheDragon Fuge]] and are about to leave the room through a magical door Fuge cannot enter, when he catches up with them. Instead of, well, ''going through'' the door, the grandfather tells the Hero to run, engages in a hopeless fight with Fuge (he has to actually ''run away from the door'' to do that) and is promptly killed. Then it gets weird. Instead of obliging and bailing, the Hero just stands and watches his grandfather getting killed. But after the cutscene ends, Fuge... just stands there and does nothing as well. You can even attack him (and get killed) or you can just go through the door.

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* In ''{{Silver}}'' the Hero [[TheHero David]] and his grandfather are pursued by [[TheDragon Fuge]] and are about to leave the room through a magical door Fuge cannot enter, when he catches up with them. Instead of, well, ''going through'' the door, the grandfather tells the Hero David to run, engages Fuge in a hopeless fight with Fuge (he has to actually ''run away from the door'' to do that) and is promptly killed. Then it gets weird. Instead of obliging and bailing, the Hero David just stands and watches his grandfather getting killed. But after the cutscene figt ends, Fuge... just stands there and does nothing as well. You can even attack him (and get killed) or you can just go through the door.
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