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25th Sep '16 11:03:29 AM MagBas
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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk, often compared to a rebellious edgy teenager in a phase, who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.

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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the The game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk, often compared to a rebellious edgy teenager in a phase, who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.him.
25th Sep '16 5:26:08 AM matteste
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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk , often compared to a rebellious edgy teenager in a phase, who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.

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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk , jerk, often compared to a rebellious edgy teenager in a phase, who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.
25th Sep '16 5:25:47 AM matteste
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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.

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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk , often compared to a rebellious edgy teenager in a phase, who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.
22nd Sep '16 5:33:49 AM Mr.Bubbles
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* Gates from ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperheroes'' is an interesting example. He was one of the very few free thinkers among [[BeePeople his race]], who all shared the same opinions. He's basically a socialist, openly suspicious of authority figures, with most of his dialogue being him complaining about the "capitalist police state" and "teenage death squad" he's been forcibly drafted into. While most of his appearances involve making fun of extreme beliefs in one way or another, writers have consistently treated him as a sympathetic three-dimensional character.
23rd Aug '16 3:25:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}: "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia". All articles on Democratic/Liberal/Evolutionary topics are built of straw. Their article on President Obama is a stewed mixture of straw, insults and long discredited smears.

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* Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}: Conservapedia: "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia". All articles on Democratic/Liberal/Evolutionary topics are built of straw. Their article on President Obama is a stewed mixture of straw, insults and long discredited smears.
8th Aug '16 9:49:12 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.) Villainous and/or unpleasant characters have a good chance of being offhandedly mentioned as Republicans in many of his works, even when personal politics otherwise don't factor into their characterization at all. This also goes for a few bit characters who don't make an actual appearances in the story; King describing someone as Republican is essentially his shorthand for "You're not supposed to like or respect this person."

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* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.) Villainous and/or unpleasant characters have a good chance of being offhandedly mentioned as Republicans and/or disparaging of Democrats in many of his works, even when personal politics otherwise don't factor into their characterization at all. This also goes for a few bit characters who don't make an actual appearances appearance in the story; King describing someone as Republican is essentially his shorthand for "You're not supposed to like or respect this person."
25th Jul '16 2:17:50 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ''Film/ThePurge'' films are as close as mainstream entertainment has come to StrawmanPolitical: TheMovie, which becomes exponentially more anvilicious with each sequel. By the third movie, anyone of even the slightest conservative bent is depicted as a mass-murdering, white-supremacist religious fanatic out to slaughter everyone who isn't exactly like them for the benefit of their rich and equally white, racist, religious overlords. That said, the writers' overtly vicious {{Demonization}} and [[ArtisticLicense cluelessness about real-world politics, sociology and economics]] makes these characters come off so extreme as to seem like abstractions, so it'd have to be difficult for any right-leaning viewers to take them seriously.

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* ''Film/ThePurge'' films are as close as mainstream entertainment has come to StrawmanPolitical: TheMovie, which becomes exponentially more anvilicious with each sequel. By the third movie, anyone of even the slightest conservative bent is depicted as a mass-murdering, white-supremacist religious fanatic out to slaughter everyone who isn't exactly like them for the benefit of their rich and equally white, racist, religious overlords. That said, the writers' overtly vicious {{Demonization}} and [[ArtisticLicense cluelessness about real-world politics, sociology and economics]] makes these characters come off so extreme as to seem like cartoonish abstractions, so it'd have it has to be difficult for any most right-leaning viewers to take them seriously.seriously enough to be offended.
25th Jul '16 2:16:35 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.)

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* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.)) Villainous and/or unpleasant characters have a good chance of being offhandedly mentioned as Republicans in many of his works, even when personal politics otherwise don't factor into their characterization at all. This also goes for a few bit characters who don't make an actual appearances in the story; King describing someone as Republican is essentially his shorthand for "You're not supposed to like or respect this person."
13th Jul '16 12:16:06 PM BattleMaster
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* ''ComicBook/PS238'' plays the trope for comedy in the form of America Eagle and USA Patriot Act a pair of superheroes-in-training who were sponsored by the Democrat and Republican parties, respectively. They spend most of their time arguing by throwing different liberal and conservative talking points that they obviously aren't old enough to fully comprehend at each other.
12th Jul '16 3:08:54 AM matteste
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* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', the Celtic demon Dagda takes the cynical side in a SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism argument between him and Danu. Problem is that the game is dead-set of portraying him as wrong, setting him out as a stubborn, cynical jerk who's just lashing out against the world and puts the player [[YouBastard as a bastard]] for daring to side with him. However to anyone who is even remotely familiar with the series meta-physics, [[StrawmanHasAPoint he makes the stronger argument]] in contrast to Danu, who seems completely blind to how their universe works.
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