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9th Apr '17 2:35:34 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and an exaggerated knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.

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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBock/Supergirl2005'' ''ComicBook/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this that version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and an exaggerated knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.
9th Apr '17 2:34:37 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and an exaggerated knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.

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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' ''ComicBock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and an exaggerated knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.
9th Apr '17 2:34:02 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was a cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and a knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.

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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was a cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and a an exaggerated knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.
8th Apr '17 10:42:14 AM MagBas
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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was a cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and a Mary Sue-ish knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.

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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was a cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and a Mary Sue-ish knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.
8th Apr '17 10:28:05 AM MinisterOfSinister
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* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s portrayal in ''ComicBoock/Supergirl2005'' drew a lot of criticism as fans cried foul at Kara's DesignatedHero qualities and the sheer force of difference between this version of her and her original portrayal. (The Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was a cheerful and enthusiastic, responsible and heroic; the Post-Crisis version was obnoxious, whiny, selfish and prone to fighting other superheroes moreso than supervillains.) Ultimately the writers apparently decided to address these complaints by having a MirrorMatch between Post-Crisis Supergirl and a Mary Sue-ish knockoff of Pre-Crisis Supergirl, whose sole purpose in the story appears to have been an excuse for the writers to espouse why a flawed, angry Supergirl is ''such'' a better alternative to the "Little Miss Perfect" caricature they paraded out to contrast with her.



* ''Comicbook/{{normalman}}'' has both a Strawman Liberal ''and'' a Strawman Conservative, and they're technically the same character. That is, the malevolent, overzealous reactionary nut-job Ultra-Conservative, and his alternate personality, the radical, chaotic anarchist Liberalator. Ultra-Conservative eventually suppresses the transformation by thinking about "commie agitators", "pinko cupcakes", and the "death penalty" while shouting that he "will not '''''change!'''''"

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* ''Comicbook/{{normalman}}'' ''Comicbook/{{Normalman}}'' has both a Strawman Liberal ''and'' a Strawman Conservative, and they're technically the same character. That is, the malevolent, overzealous reactionary nut-job Ultra-Conservative, and his alternate personality, the radical, chaotic anarchist Liberalator. Ultra-Conservative eventually suppresses the transformation by thinking about "commie agitators", "pinko cupcakes", and the "death penalty" while shouting that he "will not '''''change!'''''"
2nd Apr '17 7:03:14 PM Fireblood
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* ''{{Series/Homeland}}'': Right-wing extremist Brett O'Keefe has a talk show where he peddles venom toward the president-elect, various conspiracy theories included. [[spoiler: It turns out he works with a faction of the CIA to take her down.]]
2nd Apr '17 7:02:08 PM Fireblood
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* On ''Series/{{MASH}}'', Major Frank Burns was a jingoistic, hypocritically pious, John Birch-style conservative JerkAss, while his successor Major Charles Winchester was a snobby Boston Brahmin type and Establishment Republican.

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* On ''Series/{{MASH}}'', Major Frank Burns was a jingoistic, hypocritically pious, John Birch-style conservative JerkAss, while his successor Major Charles Winchester was a snobby Boston Brahmin type and Establishment establishment Republican.



** At first, they tried taking a similar, if milder tack with Winchester [[note]] one early episode, possibly an unused Burns plot, has Winchester [[KickTheDog bilking Korean villagers out of their cash]] by buying up expiring military Scrip at a artificially low exchange rate, intending to exchange it at the scheduled currency exchange for an enormous profit [[/note]], but soon gave up as they decided he worked a lot better as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who had major HiddenDepths [[note]] that early Winchester was light years away from a Winchester of just a year or two later, who anonymously [[PetTheDog donated chocolate to an orphanage]] and threatened violence to the orphanage's owner when he mistakenly believed the owner sold the candy for profit -- instead he sold it to buy a year's supply of staple foods for the children, a revelation which calmed Winchester down [[/note]].

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** At first, they tried taking a similar, if milder tack with Winchester [[note]] one Winchester,[[note]]One early episode, possibly an unused Burns plot, has Winchester [[KickTheDog bilking Korean villagers out of their cash]] by buying up expiring military Scrip at a artificially low exchange rate, intending to exchange it at the scheduled currency exchange for an enormous profit [[/note]], profit.[[/note]] but soon gave up as they decided he worked a lot better as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who had major HiddenDepths [[note]] that HiddenDepths.[[note]]That early Winchester was light years away from a Winchester of just a year or two later, who anonymously [[PetTheDog donated chocolate to an orphanage]] and threatened violence to the orphanage's owner when he mistakenly believed the owner sold the candy for profit -- instead he sold it to buy a year's supply of staple foods for the children, a revelation which calmed Winchester down [[/note]].down.[[/note]]
27th Mar '17 4:27:31 PM ading
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* ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'': is a glorious aversion or deconstruction. After ''Unity'' reached Alpha Centauri, Captain Garland was assassinated, and the crew split up according to ideological belief, meaning that the straw types would logically be in charge. However, there is no obvious precedence among the factions, and the in-game quotes from the faction leaders have each one making some perfectly salient points and some... less so.
** Probably is deconstructed if you consider the fact that every ideology is taken to a utopian extreme, and the game does ''not'' gloss over what it would realistically take to make a good number of these philosophies actually ''work'' within the frame of a society. Hint: if you want your civ to function in a way that even remotely resembles the modern western society you probably live in right now, stay the everliving hell away from everybody who isn't either the [[UnitedNationsIsASuperpower Peacekeepers]] or the [[GreenThumb Gaians]], ''maybe'' [[OneNationUnderCopyright Morgan Industries]] or the [[CommieLand Free Drones]] depending on your view of economics. The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Spartans]], [[TheFundamentalist Believers]], [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Human Hive]] and even the [[ForScience University]] are right out.

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* ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'': is a glorious aversion or deconstruction. After ''Unity'' reached Alpha Centauri, Captain Garland was assassinated, and the crew split up according to ideological belief, meaning that the straw types would logically be in charge. However, there is no obvious precedence among the factions, and the in-game quotes from the faction leaders have each one making some perfectly salient points and some... less so.
** Probably is deconstructed
so. Deconstructed if you consider the fact that every ideology is taken to a utopian extreme, and the game does ''not'' gloss over what it would realistically take to make a good number of these philosophies actually ''work'' within the frame of a society. Hint: if you want your civ to function in a way that even remotely resembles the modern western society you probably live in right now, stay the everliving hell away from everybody who isn't either the [[UnitedNationsIsASuperpower Peacekeepers]] or the [[GreenThumb Gaians]], ''maybe'' [[OneNationUnderCopyright Morgan Industries]] or the [[CommieLand Free Drones]] depending on your view of economics. The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Spartans]], [[TheFundamentalist Believers]], [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Human Hive]] and even the [[ForScience University]] are right out.
27th Mar '17 4:19:20 PM ading
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** Well. You can be a conservative and think the infotainment talking heads like O'Reilly are the worst possible spokesmen for conservatives.
*** Also, good luck finding conservatives with a sense of humour ''who are also'' skilled rappers.
** Further into the series they seem aware of this, giving Mitt Romney several excellent jabs in their ''UsefulNotes/BarackObama vs Mitt Romney'' skit ("We all wish you'd shut your mouth, but like Guantanamo Bay it's still open!"), although given the skit exists only so Lincoln can "bitch slap them as equals", even this welcome break exists only in terms of mocking both parties, never the Democrats solely, and always mocking Democrats for not being liberal ''enough''. Heck, Lincoln even starts off his rap to Obama with "I want to like you!" after basically condemning Romney as a political nuclear bomb.

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** Well. You can be a conservative and think the infotainment talking heads like O'Reilly are the worst possible spokesmen for conservatives.
*** Also, good luck finding conservatives with a sense of humour ''who are also'' skilled rappers.
** Further into the series series, they seem aware of this, giving Mitt Romney several excellent jabs in their ''UsefulNotes/BarackObama vs Mitt Romney'' skit ("We all wish you'd shut your mouth, but like Guantanamo Bay it's still open!"), although given the skit exists only so Lincoln can "bitch slap them as equals", even this welcome break exists only in terms of mocking both parties, never the Democrats solely, and always mocking Democrats for not being liberal ''enough''. Heck, Lincoln even starts off his rap to Obama with "I want to like you!" after basically condemning Romney as a political nuclear bomb.
27th Mar '17 4:16:32 PM ading
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** There are also several episodes where members of Congress or White House staffers in concert with StrawmanNewsMedia conducts investigations that turns into a politically expedient WitchHunt. Also, the evidence behind it is always shown as nothing more than either conjecture or hearsay.

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** There are also several episodes where members of Congress or White House staffers in concert with StrawmanNewsMedia conducts conduct investigations that turns turn into a politically expedient WitchHunt.{{Witch Hunt}}s. Also, the evidence behind it is always shown as nothing more than either conjecture or hearsay.
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