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4th Sep '17 5:52:45 PM CyberTiger88
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The strawman is a relative of the {{Windmill|Political}}. While a strawman is a dumbed-down version of a real enemy or threat, a windmill is not at all the threat it's believed to be -- if it even ''exists'' in the first place. A person who [[WindmillCrusader honestly fights such windmills]] can be used as a StrawLoser, while a [[ManipulativeBastard dishonest person]] who tricks others into fighting windmills typically is a StrawHypocrite. If the strawman actually makes a good point that the author didn't intend it's a case of StrawmanHasAPoint. Finally, characters literally made of straw are ScaryScarecrows.

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The strawman is a relative of the {{Windmill|Political}}. While a strawman is a dumbed-down version of a real enemy or threat, a windmill is not at all the threat it's believed to be -- if it even ''exists'' in the first place. A person who [[WindmillCrusader honestly fights such windmills]] can be used as a StrawLoser, while a [[ManipulativeBastard dishonest person]] who tricks others into fighting windmills typically is a StrawHypocrite. If the strawman actually makes a good point that the author didn't intend it's a case of StrawmanHasAPoint. Compare and contrast with DeliberatelyBadExample, where a character's purpose is to make a sympathetic character look better in comparison regarding a potentially touchy subject. Finally, characters literally made of straw are ScaryScarecrows.
16th Aug '17 1:59:02 PM LaptopGuy
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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive Liberal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.

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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive Liberal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him. He admits he'd be a mega over face competing in major cosmopolitan cities, although he hasn't gone there.
* Sam Polinsky (Corey Graves' brother and former FCW developmental talent Buddy Stetcher) portrays a character called "Sam Adonis" in Mexico, as a [[ForeignWrestlingHeel Mexico-hating]] Donald Trump supporter. That being said, he isn't really a Trump supporter in real life.
29th Jul '17 10:09:26 AM crazysamaritan
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* Most American action films from TheEighties were hostile to Straw Liberal or StrawFeminist views, with two typical varieties. In both cases, a female character has a limited number of roles: VictimOfTheWeek, DamselInDistress, or [[DoesNotLikeMen butchy ball-busting harpy]], and will never be as important to the hero as [[HoYay his partner]].
** DaChief is always trying to get the CowboyCop to [[TurnInYourBadge Turn In His Badge]] when all he and [[BuddyCopShow his partner]] need is [[YouHave48Hours two days]] free [[VigilanteMan from procedural restraint]] to sweep the streets of TheAggressiveDrugDealer or the AxCrazy SerialKiller who the useless justice system keeps letting OffOnATechnicality.
** TheGovernment won't let the MilitaryMaverick protect America and save [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind his buddies and those POWs]] from DirtyCommunists or TerroristsWithoutACause because they keep trying diplomatic methods when ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption.
** Some of Creator/StevenSeagal's films take the opposite approach, with the villains being [[CIAEvilFBIGood members of the American intelligence community]] or [[CorruptCorporateExecutive evil polluters]].
** 80's Sci-fi was almost uniformly plagued by the evil Straw Conservative military; though sometimes the politics were thrown out and it was simply a Straw Military of [[GeneralRipper ignorant thugs who LIKED shooting, killing, blowing things up, etc.]] [[RedScare And saw the Russians behind everything]].
12th Jul '17 8:47:55 AM Franco-America2018
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the The first episodes episode of series has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, Bobby but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative Christian fundamentalist woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.



** That said, Stan Smith does have some pretty heavy [=Strawman=] tendencies- a lot of episodes involve him learning some kind of lesson, often involving him seeing how his conservative perspective on an issue was wrong and becoming more liberal. Stan also exhibits a lot of positive tendencies associated with conservatives, like personal responsibility and work ethic but to what degree and how likable that makes him varies from episode to episode.

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** That said, Stan Smith does have some pretty heavy [=Strawman=] tendencies- reactionary tendencies in a lot of episodes involve him learning some kind of lesson, often involving him seeing how his conservative conservative[=/=]reactionary perspective on an issue was wrong and becoming more liberal. Stan also exhibits a lot of positive tendencies associated with conservatives, like personal responsibility and work ethic but to what degree and how likable that makes him varies from episode to episode.
12th Jul '17 8:40:39 AM Franco-America2018
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.
** In earlier episodes Dale could be seen as a [=Strawman=] Conservative with his extreme distrust of the government; however, once {{Flanderization}} kicks in he's just treated as a lone nutcase who thinks "The Conspiracy" is behind everything bad in America.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/libertarian conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.
** In earlier episodes Dale could be seen as a [=Strawman=] Conservative with his extreme distrust of the government; however, once {{Flanderization}} kicks in he's just treated as a lone nutcase who thinks "The Conspiracy" is behind everything bad in America.America with several Straw Right-wing Libertarian leanings.
3rd Jul '17 10:24:43 PM Baeraad555
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/FilthyLies''. Damian is an AuthorAvatar who has the same overall opinions as the cartoonist, but he's also a PsychoticManchild who wants to solve the homeless problem by poisoning the food at a soup kitchen. Joel is TheFundamentalist and has the opposite opinions to the cartoonist on everything, but he's also a genuinely NiceGuy who consistently does the moral and reasonable thing when it counts.
2nd Jul '17 7:39:03 PM DarthWalrus
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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.

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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", Liberal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.
2nd Jul '17 7:38:29 PM DarthWalrus
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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.
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22nd Jun '17 10:05:12 PM HeyPC
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* ''Comicbook/{{Concrete}}'' almost always portrays conservatives in a bad light, often as ignorant, old, bald men or raving racists who only care about money. It doesn't stop there. Characters who should be neutral or have a variety of opinions almost always agree with the author/protagonists on controversial or highly varied issues, even when Concrete is visiting an area of the world where such an opinion is virtually non-existent or would be nonsensical to hold.
16th Jun '17 10:55:43 AM johnnye
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In the [[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] ''fallacy'', a debater constructs a weakened or just plain unrecognizable form of an opponent's argument, and in defeating it acts like he has defeated the real argument. This is likened to fashioning a dummy out of straw that acts as a stand-in and a scapegoat for the real issue, hence the term "straw man" fallacy. In other words, the go-to tool for someone, possibly driven by a dangerous ego, to create a fantasy outcome where they win.


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In the [[TheWarOnStraw ''[[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] ''fallacy'', fallacy'', a debater constructs a weakened or just plain unrecognizable form of an opponent's argument, and in defeating it it, acts like he has defeated the real argument. This is likened to fashioning attacking a dummy made out of straw that acts as a stand-in and a scapegoat for the real issue, hence the term "straw man" fallacy. can't fight back. In other words, the go-to tool for someone, possibly driven by a dangerous ego, to create a fantasy outcome where they win.

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