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12th Jul '17 8:47:55 AM Franco-America2018
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the The first episodes episode of series has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, Bobby but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative Christian fundamentalist woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.



** That said, Stan Smith does have some pretty heavy [=Strawman=] tendencies- a lot of episodes involve him learning some kind of lesson, often involving him seeing how his conservative perspective on an issue was wrong and becoming more liberal. Stan also exhibits a lot of positive tendencies associated with conservatives, like personal responsibility and work ethic but to what degree and how likable that makes him varies from episode to episode.

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** That said, Stan Smith does have some pretty heavy [=Strawman=] tendencies- reactionary tendencies in a lot of episodes involve him learning some kind of lesson, often involving him seeing how his conservative conservative[=/=]reactionary perspective on an issue was wrong and becoming more liberal. Stan also exhibits a lot of positive tendencies associated with conservatives, like personal responsibility and work ethic but to what degree and how likable that makes him varies from episode to episode.
12th Jul '17 8:40:39 AM Franco-America2018
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.
** In earlier episodes Dale could be seen as a [=Strawman=] Conservative with his extreme distrust of the government; however, once {{Flanderization}} kicks in he's just treated as a lone nutcase who thinks "The Conspiracy" is behind everything bad in America.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' skews conservative/libertarian conservative/(right wing) libertarian (as per its creator Mike Judge), but in general it's pretty good about being equal opportunity. One of the first episodes has a [=Strawman=] Liberal social worker who's convinced that Hank is physically abusing Bobby, but ultimately gets ReassignedToAntarctica by his boss for not actually investigating Hank and operating solely off of gut instinct. (This character, or an IdenticalStranger, returns in a later episode where he enables people to claim disability for ludicrous reasons.) On the other hand, another early episode has a [=Strawman=] Conservative woman who claims all forms of Halloween celebration are Satanic and gets Arlen to "cancel" the holiday; Hank ends up putting on an old costume and leading a protest against her, with all the adults of the neighborhood agreeing with him.
** In earlier episodes Dale could be seen as a [=Strawman=] Conservative with his extreme distrust of the government; however, once {{Flanderization}} kicks in he's just treated as a lone nutcase who thinks "The Conspiracy" is behind everything bad in America.America with several Straw Right-wing Libertarian leanings.
3rd Jul '17 10:24:43 PM Baeraad555
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/FilthyLies''. Damian is an AuthorAvatar who has the same overall opinions as the cartoonist, but he's also a PsychoticManchild who wants to solve the homeless problem by poisoning the food at a soup kitchen. Joel is TheFundamentalist and has the opposite opinions to the cartoonist on everything, but he's also a genuinely NiceGuy who consistently does the moral and reasonable thing when it counts.
2nd Jul '17 7:39:03 PM DarthWalrus
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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.

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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", Liberal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.
2nd Jul '17 7:38:29 PM DarthWalrus
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* Dan Richards, AKA "Progressive literal", a Kentucky part-time wrestler who enters the ring in a shirt covered with Hillary Clinton's face, who openly declares he wants to take the (highly conservative) crowd's guns away, and named his FinishingMove the "Liberal Agenda". Interestingly enough, he ''actually is'' a Hillary supporter, he just plays it up to a crowd that loves to hate him.
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22nd Jun '17 10:05:12 PM HeyPC
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* ''Comicbook/{{Concrete}}'' almost always portrays conservatives in a bad light, often as ignorant, old, bald men or raving racists who only care about money. It doesn't stop there. Characters who should be neutral or have a variety of opinions almost always agree with the author/protagonists on controversial or highly varied issues, even when Concrete is visiting an area of the world where such an opinion is virtually non-existent or would be nonsensical to hold.
16th Jun '17 10:55:43 AM johnnye
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In the [[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] ''fallacy'', a debater constructs a weakened or just plain unrecognizable form of an opponent's argument, and in defeating it acts like he has defeated the real argument. This is likened to fashioning a dummy out of straw that acts as a stand-in and a scapegoat for the real issue, hence the term "straw man" fallacy. In other words, the go-to tool for someone, possibly driven by a dangerous ego, to create a fantasy outcome where they win.


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In the [[TheWarOnStraw ''[[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] ''fallacy'', fallacy'', a debater constructs a weakened or just plain unrecognizable form of an opponent's argument, and in defeating it it, acts like he has defeated the real argument. This is likened to fashioning attacking a dummy made out of straw that acts as a stand-in and a scapegoat for the real issue, hence the term "straw man" fallacy. can't fight back. In other words, the go-to tool for someone, possibly driven by a dangerous ego, to create a fantasy outcome where they win.

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16th Jun '17 8:26:07 AM AlienPatch
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* ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' features [[PoliticallyMotivatedTeacher Aristotle]] [[MeaningfulName Means]] in Case 5-3. He's the director of the Themis Academy, a professor of law and an AmoralAttorney to boot [[PrinciplesZealot who ''really'' believes in the doctrine "the ends justify the means"]], and he teaches this mantra (which he repeats at every chance he gets) to his students. Naturally, he's meant to be seen in the wrong [[spoiler: and he's also the murderer in the case at hand]]. The case ends with the characters [[{{Anvilicious}} proclaiming out loud that the ends DON'T justify the means in a conversation]]. For the same purpose as Aristotle, the novel uses [[StrawLoser Gaspen Payne]] in the closing credits.
15th Jun '17 8:35:44 PM Fireblood
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* The Creator/SMStirling series ''Literature/IslandInTheSeaOfTime'' and sequels have straw liberals (hippies who can't believe in Evil Natives who therefore die horribly at the Evil Natives' hands) and straw conservatives (who complain about the lesbian Coast Guard officer). His other books have other straw opponents, who exist solely to make ineffectual trouble.
** Not only do the straw liberals in ''Island'' die horribly, they accidentally ''wipe out'' the very Mesoamerican natives they want to protect (by infecting them with mumps, to which the natives have no immunity).

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* The Creator/SMStirling series ''Literature/IslandInTheSeaOfTime'' and sequels have straw liberals (hippies who can't believe in Evil Natives who therefore die horribly at the Evil Natives' hands) and straw conservatives (who complain about the lesbian Coast Guard officer). His other books have other straw opponents, who exist solely to make ineffectual trouble.
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trouble. In fact, not only do the straw liberals in ''Island'' die horribly, they accidentally ''wipe out'' the very Mesoamerican natives they want to protect (by infecting them with mumps, to which the natives have no immunity).



* In Creator/OrsonScottCard's ''[[Literature/OrsonScottCardsEmpire Empire]]'' the Blue states attempt to secede from the Union, funded by a Straw Liberal Billionaire (though this was all set up by a bipartisan moderate MagnificentBastard). Any non-Christian in the sequel ''Hidden Empire'' especially Muslims and the pre-Christian Romans.

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* In Creator/OrsonScottCard's ''[[Literature/OrsonScottCardsEmpire Empire]]'' the Blue states attempt to secede from the Union, funded by a Straw Liberal Billionaire (though this was all set up by a bipartisan moderate MagnificentBastard). Any non-Christian in the sequel ''Hidden Empire'' also counts, especially Muslims and the pre-Christian Romans.



* Galileo's ''Dialogue on the Two Chief World Systems'' has a [=Strawman=] Geocentrist named Simplicio. Part of what got Galileo in trouble was that he put the Pope's words in Simplicio's mouth. [[TooDumbToLive This after said Pope had defended Galileo against his enemies]]

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* Galileo's ''Dialogue on the Two Chief World Systems'' has a [=Strawman=] Geocentrist named Simplicio. Part of what got Galileo in trouble was that he put the Pope's words in Simplicio's mouth. [[TooDumbToLive This after said Pope had defended Galileo against his enemies]]enemies]].



* One would have to dig deep to find a Creator/JohnRingo work that ''doesn't'' have one of these, usually of the liberal variety. Ringo has himself acknowledged that he has problems with writing liberals, in a panel on politics in ScienceFiction at the 2010 Dragon*Con.

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* One would have to dig deep to find a Creator/JohnRingo work that ''doesn't'' have one of these, usually of the liberal variety. Ringo has himself acknowledged that he has problems with writing liberals, liberals in a panel on politics in ScienceFiction at the 2010 Dragon*Con.



* 19th century Russian novelists, particularly Dostoyevski, are fond of this trope and will very frequently work tangents about the philosophical/political issues of the time into the dialog, even when it doesn't really have anything to do with what people are talking about. Frequently this involves having a fashion chasing idiot arguing espousing Enlightenment ideals to somebody taking the side of simple virtues of the Russian peasantry/Orthodox Christianity.

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* 19th century Russian novelists, particularly Dostoyevski, are fond of this trope and will very frequently work tangents about the philosophical/political issues of the time into the dialog, even when it doesn't really have anything to do with what people are talking about. Frequently this involves having a fashion chasing idiot arguing espousing Enlightenment ideals to somebody taking the side of simple virtues of the Russian peasantry/Orthodox Christianity. Many are also DirtyCommunists and or StrawNihilists in Dostoyevski novels.



* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.) Villainous and/or unpleasant characters have a good chance of being offhandedly mentioned as Republicans and/or disparaging of Democrats in many of his works, even when personal politics otherwise don't factor into their characterization at all. This also goes for a few bit characters who don't make an actual appearance in the story; King describing someone as Republican is essentially his shorthand for "You're not supposed to like or respect this person."
* Literature/InDeath series: Some characters are certainly this, with Commander Douglas Skinner from ''Interlude In Death'' standing out in particular. "Instead, he'd put in his fifty and then used that as a springboard in a run for Congress. And had fallen hard on his face. A half century of public service hadn't been enough to offset views so narrow even the most dug-in of the Conservative Party had balked. Added to that, his platform had swung unevenly from side to side. He was an unwavering supporter of the Gun Ban, something the Conservatives tried to overturn at every opportunity. Yet he beat the drum to reinstate the death penalty, which alienated the Liberals from mid-road to far left. He wanted to dissolve legal and regulated prostitution and strike out all legal and tax benefits for cohabitating couples. He preached about the sanctity of marriage, as long as it was heterosexual, but disavowed the government stipend for professional mothers. Motherhood, the gospel according to Skinner stated, was a God-given duty, and payment in its own right. His mixed-voice and muddled campaign had gone down in flames. However much he'd rebounded financially via lectures, books, and consults, Eve imagined he still bore the burns of that failure." Apparently, Skinner is supposed to be a Straw Conservative with TheFundamentalist mixed in, but even the Conservative Party didn't like him very much because he didn't agree with ''all'' their policies. This is hardly the biggest strawman character in the series either. That honor goes to a conservative senator in the first book, who's a literal slobbering pedophile rapist (incestuous, at that). In general the series treats conservatives as being, nearly to a man (and they're all men), misogynist assholes, while liberals (especially liberal politicians) are portrayed as being respectable if not likable. The series moves away from this a bit later on, able to treat at least some subjects considered conservative (such as religion) with respect, but at the same time goes back to referring to the conservative political party as the Republicans.

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* Some Creator/StephenKing novels feature {{Anvilicious}} Straw Conservatives, such as ''Literature/{{Carrie}}''. ''Literature/{{IT}}'' also mentions some [[TheFundamentalist Straw Preachers]], and the act of hatred that awakens It is the murder of a gay man by some violent Straw Homophobes. (And Homophobes (and Straw Pro-Lifers in ''Insomnia''.) ''Insomnia''). Villainous and/or unpleasant characters have a good chance of being offhandedly mentioned as Republicans and/or disparaging of Democrats in many of his works, even when personal politics otherwise don't factor into their characterization at all. This also goes for a few bit characters who don't make an actual appearance in the story; King describing someone as Republican is essentially his shorthand for "You're not supposed to like or respect this person."
* Literature/InDeath The ''Literature/InDeath'' series: Some characters are certainly this, with Commander Douglas Skinner from ''Interlude In Death'' standing out in particular. "Instead, he'd put in his fifty and then used that as a springboard in a run for Congress. And had fallen hard on his face. A half century of public service hadn't been enough to offset views so narrow even the most dug-in of the Conservative Party had balked. Added to that, his platform had swung unevenly from side to side. He was an unwavering supporter of the Gun Ban, something the Conservatives tried to overturn at every opportunity. Yet he beat the drum to reinstate the death penalty, which alienated the Liberals from mid-road to far left. He wanted to dissolve legal and regulated prostitution and strike out all legal and tax benefits for cohabitating couples. He preached about the sanctity of marriage, as long as it was heterosexual, but disavowed the government stipend for professional mothers. Motherhood, the gospel according to Skinner stated, was a God-given duty, and payment in its own right. His mixed-voice and muddled campaign had gone down in flames. However much he'd rebounded financially via lectures, books, and consults, Eve imagined he still bore the burns of that failure." Apparently, Skinner is supposed to be a Straw Conservative with TheFundamentalist mixed in, but even the Conservative Party didn't like him very much because he didn't agree with ''all'' their policies. This is hardly the biggest strawman character in the series either. That honor goes to a conservative senator in the first book, who's a literal slobbering pedophile rapist (incestuous, at that). In general the series treats conservatives as being, nearly to a man (and they're all men), misogynist assholes, while liberals (especially liberal politicians) are portrayed as being respectable if not likable. The series moves away from this a bit later on, able to treat at least some subjects considered conservative (such as religion) with respect, but at the same time goes back to referring to the conservative political party as the Republicans.


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* ''Creator/RobertJSawyer'' has these in some of his works. Jock, a very conservative former consultant with the RAND Institute in ''Literature/TheNeanderthalParallax'', goes from expressing skepticism over the Neanderthals to [[spoiler: attempting their genocide]]. Meanwhile in ''Quantum Night'', we have a right-wing US President who's quite Islamophobic, [[spoiler: turns out to be a full-on psychopath, and eventually ''invades Canada'']]. Not to mention a Texas governor who passed a law removing all legal rights for illegal aliens (which is actually ridiculously unconstitutional), sparking their mass murders. That, plus the Georgia jury who believe in capital punishment and (even if not everyone agrees on that) reacts in understandable horror after learning the main character (called by the defense to show the defendant is a psychopath, thus he couldn't help killing) favors infanticide for disabled babies. In ''Calculating God'', we have two fanatical anti-abortion, creationist fundamentalist terrorists who try to destroy the Burgess Shall for its conflict with their literalist view of the Bible.
18th May '17 6:11:13 AM SkidTroper
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A strawman can have pretty much any viewpoint. Why bother addressing the real issues of, for example, gun control, when you can instead portray all firearms advocates as bearded, racist, hillbilly lunatics ranting about black helicopters and wanting to own their own nuclear warheads? And so it goes with other examples; capitalists literally worship the bottom line and would sell their own kids if they could; liberals are all [[DirtyCommunists secret Communists]] aiming to destroy morality and personal choice; conservatives are constantly-outraged intolerant bigots who want nothing more than to see oppressed minorities suffer; scientists shake their fist at God while plotting to surpass Him; the religious are wide-eyed, superstitious madmen; feminists want to kill all men; and so on.

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A strawman can have pretty much any viewpoint. Why bother addressing the real issues of, for example, gun control, when you can instead portray all firearms advocates as bearded, racist, hillbilly lunatics ranting about black helicopters and wanting to own their own nuclear warheads? And so it goes with other examples; capitalists literally worship the bottom line and would sell their own kids if they could; liberals are all [[DirtyCommunists secret Communists]] aiming to destroy morality and personal choice; conservatives are constantly-outraged intolerant bigots who want nothing more than to see oppressed minorities suffer; scientists look down their nose on the religious, then shake their fist at God while plotting to surpass Him; the religious are wide-eyed, superstitious madmen; feminists want to kill all men; and so on.
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