History Main / StillFightingTheCivilWar

* The Peacock family from the infamous ''TheXFiles'' episode "Home." When Mulder & Scully come across the matriarch, she rails at them about the War of Northern Agression.

* Thomas Frank's ''What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'' (2004) argues that the entire [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem American political system]] (or at least a good chunk of it) is driven by right-wing resentment toward the legacy of the cultural excesses of TheSixties, for which the Democratic party [[TakeTheHeat takes the heat]], despite having nothing to do with the various apolitical revolutions of the '60s and even opposing them more often than not. This, in turn, has led to reflexive resentment against the Great Society, the New Deal, and even the Progressivism of the 1900-1920 period (which, ironically, was primarily a Republican movement). "With a little more effort," writes Frank, "the [conservative movement] may well repeal the entire twentieth century."

* Thomas Frank's ''What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'' (2004) argues that the entire [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem American political system]] (or at least a good chunk of it) is driven by right-wing resentment toward the legacy of the cultural excesses of TheSixties, for which the Democratic party [[TakeTheHeat takes the heat]], despite having nothing to do with the various apolitical revolutions of the '60s and even opposing them more often than not. This, in turn, has led to reflexive resentment against the Great Society, the New Deal, and even the Progressivism of the 1900-1920 period (which, ironically, was primarily a Republican movement). "With a little more effort," writes Frank, "the [conservative movement] may well repeal the entire twentieth century." This book is also [[TropeNamer responsible]] for giving us the RussiaIranDiscoSuck trope, which sums up Frank's thesis perfectly.

* In UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica, there is much controversy over the old pre-1994 flag, which has come to symbolize UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra.

** By the by, the party calling itself Sinn Féin right now is TheRemnant of the original party left after Éamon de Valera led pragmatic Anti-Treaty members (who recognized they had been beaten) to found Fianna Fáil. This Sinn Féin continued fighting, with varying degrees of intensity (greatest during TheTroubles) until the early 2000s.

* The main two political parties of the IrishPoliticalSystem are in many ways this, with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael being directly descended from the Anti-Treaty and Pro-Treaty factions of Sinn Féin in the Irish Civil War. Both parties have since become in effect political machines, with personalities and historical and regional loyalties driving voting patterns more than policy. This is particularly true of Fianna Fáil, with its development into a "party of power" advancing the interests of the monied elite (starting around the premiership of [[ThePrimeMinistersOfIreland Charlie Haughey]], the wealth-obsessed Irish Nixon). Fine Gael has gained a few principles (becoming a Christian Democratic party with conservative views on social issues but with a more social view of economic policy, in line with Catholic social teaching), but as their longstanding alliance with Labour (with whom they strongly disagree on social policy and who are substantially to the left of them on economic policy) shows, they've historically only been marginally better than Fianna Fáil in this respect. (However, after the Ahern and Cowen FF administrations revealed some truly ''spectacular'' corruption on FF's part, people have been rethinking this conception.)

* The main two political parties of the IrishPoliticalSystem are in many ways this, with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael being directly descended from the political wings of the Anti-Treaty and Pro-Treaty factions of the IRA in the Irish Civil War. Both parties have since become in effect political machines, with personalities and historical and regional loyalties driving voting patterns more than policy. This is particularly true of Fianna Fáil, with its development into a "party of power" advancing the interests of the monied elite (starting around the premiership of [[ThePrimeMinistersOfIreland Charlie Haughey]], the wealth-obsessed Irish Nixon). Fine Gael has gained a few principles (becoming a Christian Democratic party with conservative views on social issues but with a more social view of economic policy, in line with Catholic social teaching), but as their longstanding alliance with Labour (with whom they strongly disagree on social policy and who are substantially to the left of them on economic policy) shows, they've historically only been marginally better than Fianna Fáil in this respect. (However, after the Ahern and Cowen FF administrations revealed some truly ''spectacular'' corruption on FF's part, people have been rethinking this conception.)

* The Balkans take this trope UpToTheEleven with their long history of ethnic and religious tensions, as well as meddling by various outside forces. The Ottoman conquests and subsequent rebellions against their rule, the whole mess with Austrian expansion into the Balkans that led to the First World War, the Balkan Wars, World War 2, the Yugoslav Wars... some people who live there are still re-living these conflicts to this day.

* Some Russians still stubbornly fly the flag of the former Soviet Union. Much like with the Confederate flag, there is considerable debate over the legacy of the hammer and sickle. Some view it as a harmless symbol of socialism and/or Russian patriotism. Others believe it is a symbol of totalitarianism on par with the swastika.

* ''Meeting Daddy'' has as its title character an elderly Southerner (Lloyd Bridges in his final screen role) who is still proud to be a Confederate citizen (in spirit if not in fact) in the year 1998 (the year the movie was filmed), and is still flying the Confederate flag on his front porch. (The old man's prospective son-in-law, a writer from California, objects to the flag, but the old man emotionally manipulates him into putting it up for him.) When he sees activists on the TV news protesting against the Confederate flag, the old man grumpily calls them "outside agitators" - a term that by that point was about 30 years out-of-date, as it was an insult directed at Northerners who travelled to the South in the 1960s as civil-rights workers. (What's especially strange about this is that Daddy is old, but not ''that'' old; his ''father'' probably wasn't born yet when the Civil War ended!)

* ''Meeting Daddy'' has as its title character an elderly Southerner (LloydBridges in his final screen role) who is still proud to be a Confederate citizen (in spirit if not in fact) in the year 1998 (the year the movie was filmed), and is still flying the Confederate flag on his front porch. (The old man's prospective son-in-law, a writer from California, objects to the flag, but the old man emotionally manipulates him into putting it up for him.) When he sees activists on the TV news protesting against the Confederate flag, the old man grumpily calls them "outside agitators" - a term that by that point was about 30 years out-of-date, as it was an insult directed at Northerners who travelled to the South in the 1960s as civil-rights workers.

Some people just can't let go of the past, but this guy really takes it to extremes. It's not even his past, but he's still bitter about real or perceived injustices that happened before he was born, and will let anyone in earshot know, given half a chance.

* Borderline example: Mal in ''{{Firefly}}''. He actually did fight in the war with the Alliance, but his attitude during the show is mostly restricted to grumbling and griping, not [[TheRemnant trying to continue fighting for a lost cause.]]

*** The comics include a terrorist group of former Independent soldiers who have vowed ''never'' to stop fighting the war against the Alliance. Interestingly, Mal was never a member. [[spoiler: Zoe used to be.]]

* ''Meeting Daddy'' has as its title character an elderly Southerner (LloydBridges in his final screen role) who is still proud to be a Confederate citizen (in spirit if not in fact) in the year 1998 (the year the movie was filmed), and is still flying the Confederate flag on his front porch. (The old man's prospective son-in-law, a writer from California, objects to the flag, but the old man emotionally manipulates him into putting it up for him.) When he sees activists on the TV news protesting against the Confederate flag, the old man grumpily calls them "outside agitators" - a term that by that point was about 30 years out-of-date, as it was an insult directed at Northerners who travelled to the South in the 1960s as civi-rights workers.
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*** The comics include a terrorist group of former Independent soldiers who have vowed ''never'' to stop fighting the war against the Alliance.

* Some Russians still stubbornly fly the flag of the former Soviet Union. Much like the Confederate flag, there is considerable debate over the legacy of the hammer and sickle. Some view it as a harmless symbol of socialism and/or Russian patriotism. Others believe it is a symbol of totalitarianism on par with the swastika.

* Some Russians still stubbornly fly the flag of the former Soviet Union. Similar to the above, there is considerable debate over the legacy of the hammer and sickle. Does it represent communism and other leftist ideologies? Or is it totalitarianism and imperialism? Or just Russian patriotism?

* Many people in the South like to display the Confederate flag, even sometimes in official places such as state buildings or on license plates. This [[FlameBait invariably causes controversy]] between those who see it as a matter of historical southern pride and those who take issue with its UnfortunateImplications. TheOtherWiki has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Controversy whole article]] on the subject.

* The [[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/neo-confederate Neo-Confederate movement]] has a lot of adherents in the DeepSouth of the U.S.A., often overlapping with [[MasterRace white supremacist groups]].

* RealLife example: Among [[UsefulNotes/{{Argentina}} Argentines,]] This attitude towards ''[[TheFalklandsWar Las Malvinas]]'' is so common that it borders on [[PlanetOfHats Hat]] status for the entire nation.

* On one ''LooneyTunes'' short, BugsBunny encounters a Rebel general (Yosemite Sam) who still believes the war is on. When Bugs informs him that the war ended almost a century ago, Sam's response is "I ain't no clockwatcher!"

* [=MacIan=] in ''The Ball and the Cross'' by GKChesterton fervently supports the [[HanoverStuartWars Jacobite]] cause, a century and a half after their last attempt to claim the throne was defeated.

* Commander Clash falls into this for part of his first episode of {{Captain Planet And The Planeteers}}.

* RealLife example: Among [[{{UsefulNotes/Argentina}} Argentines,]] This attitude towards ''[[TheFalklandsWar Las Malvinas]]'' is so common that it borders on [[PlanetOfHats Hat]] status for the entire nation.

* Commander Clash falls into this for part of his first episode of {{Captain Planet And The Planateers}}.

* In Series/JackOfAllTrades, Jack runs into his friends Lewis and Clark, famous explorers with horrible sense of direction, who has yet to be informed that the war with Britain has ended. When they encounter Emilia (Jack's british partner) they capture her, and refuse to believe Jack's claims of her being on his side.

* In Series/JAckOfAllTrades, Jack runs into his friends Lewis and Clark, famous explorers with horrible sense of direction, who has yet to be informed that the war with Britain has ended. When they encounter Emilia (Jack's british partner) they capture her, and refuse to believe Jack's claims of her being on his side.