History Main / StillFightingTheCivilWar

23rd Aug '16 12:29:28 PM nightkiller
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** The British, meanwhile, tend to be more than happy to remind the Argentines exactly who won that war, occasionally in the form of sending [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships one of the most advanced battleships]] on the planet to patrol the area, but are generally less interested.

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** The British, meanwhile, tend to be more than happy to remind the Argentines exactly who won that war, occasionally in the form of sending [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships one of the most advanced battleships]] warships]] on the planet to patrol the area, but are generally less interested.
18th Aug '16 3:16:04 PM Morgenthaler
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* The main two political parties of the UsefulNotes/IrishPoliticalSystem are in many ways this, with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael being directly descended from the Anti-Treaty and Pro-Treaty factions of Sinn Féin in the Irish Civil War. Both parties have since become in effect political machines, with personalities and historical and regional loyalties driving voting patterns more than policy. This is particularly true of Fianna Fáil, with its development into a "party of power" advancing the interests of the monied elite (starting around the premiership of [[UsefulNotes/ThePrimeMinistersOfIreland Charlie Haughey]], the wealth-obsessed Irish Nixon). Fine Gael has gained a few principles (becoming a Christian Democratic party with conservative views on social issues but with a more social view of economic policy, in line with Catholic social teaching), but as their longstanding alliance with Labour (with whom they strongly disagree on social policy and who are substantially to the left of them on economic policy) shows, they've historically only been marginally better than Fianna Fáil in this respect. (However, after the Ahern and Cowen FF administrations revealed some truly ''spectacular'' corruption on FF's part, people have been rethinking this conception.) The party calling itself Sinn Féin right now is TheRemnant of the original party left after Éamon de Valera led pragmatic Anti-Treaty members (who recognized they had been beaten) to found Fianna Fáil. This Sinn Féin continued fighting, with varying degrees of intensity (greatest during TheTroubles) until the early 2000s.

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* The main two political parties of the UsefulNotes/IrishPoliticalSystem are in many ways this, with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael being directly descended from the Anti-Treaty and Pro-Treaty factions of Sinn Féin in the Irish Civil War. Both parties have since become in effect political machines, with personalities and historical and regional loyalties driving voting patterns more than policy. This is particularly true of Fianna Fáil, with its development into a "party of power" advancing the interests of the monied elite (starting around the premiership of [[UsefulNotes/ThePrimeMinistersOfIreland Charlie Haughey]], the wealth-obsessed Irish Nixon). Fine Gael has gained a few principles (becoming a Christian Democratic party with conservative views on social issues but with a more social view of economic policy, in line with Catholic social teaching), but as their longstanding alliance with Labour (with whom they strongly disagree on social policy and who are substantially to the left of them on economic policy) shows, they've historically only been marginally better than Fianna Fáil in this respect. (However, after the Ahern and Cowen FF administrations revealed some truly ''spectacular'' corruption on FF's part, people have been rethinking this conception.) The party calling itself Sinn Féin right now is TheRemnant of the original party left after Éamon de Valera led pragmatic Anti-Treaty members (who recognized they had been beaten) to found Fianna Fáil. This Sinn Féin continued fighting, with varying degrees of intensity (greatest during TheTroubles) until the early 2000s.



* The people of Kazakhstan are intensely proud of their heritage, and have been known to insist that the Cossacks are "still on the march" - as if neither czarist Russia nor the Soviet Union ever existed.

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* The people of Kazakhstan are intensely proud of their heritage, and have been known to insist that the Cossacks are "still on the march" - as if neither czarist Russia nor the Soviet Union ever existed.existed.

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22nd Jun '16 2:08:02 PM WillBGood
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* On one ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' short, WesternAnimation/BugsBunny encounters a Rebel general (YosemiteSam) who still believes the war is on. When Bugs informs him that the war ended a century ago, Sam's response is "I ain't no clock-watcher!"

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* On one ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' short, short ("Southern Fried Rabbit", 1953), WesternAnimation/BugsBunny encounters a Rebel general (YosemiteSam) who still believes the war is on. When Bugs informs him that the war ended a century ago, almost 90 years ago (as of the time of the cartoon's release), Sam's response is "I ain't no clock-watcher!"
28th Feb '16 10:41:59 AM R1ck
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* The [[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/neo-confederate Neo-Confederate movement]] has a lot of adherents in the DeepSouth of the U.S.A., often overlapping with [[MasterRace white supremacist groups]].

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* The [[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/neo-confederate Neo-Confederate movement]] has a lot of some adherents in the DeepSouth of the U.S.A., often overlapping with [[MasterRace white supremacist groups]].



* The Balkans take this trope UpToTheEleven with their long history of ethnic and religious tensions, as well as meddling by various outside forces. The Ottoman conquests and subsequent rebellions against their rule, the whole mess with Austrian expansion into the Balkans that led to the First World War, the Balkan Wars, World War 2, the Yugoslav Wars... some people who live there are still re-living these conflicts to this day. One historian in the 1930s even claimed that if you could go back in time and interview all the members of a Balkan family for a thousand years of history, [[GenerationXerox they would all respond with the same bitter prejudice]].



* Thomas Frank's ''What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'' (2004) argues that the entire [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem American political system]] (or at least a good chunk of it) is driven by right-wing resentment toward the legacy of the cultural excesses of TheSixties, for which the Democratic party [[TakingTheHeat Takes The Heat]], despite having nothing to do with the various apolitical revolutions of the '60s and even opposing them more often than not. This, in turn, has led to reflexive resentment against the Great Society, the New Deal, and even the Progressivism of the 1900-1920 period (which, ironically, was primarily a Republican movement). "With a little more effort," writes Frank, "the [conservative movement] may well repeal the entire twentieth century."
17th Feb '16 3:30:54 AM DarkPhoenix94
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** The British, meanwhile, tend to be more than happy to remind the Argentines exactly who won that war, occasionally in the form of sending [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships one of the most advanced battleships]] on the planet to patrol the area, but are generally less interested.
31st Dec '15 3:25:18 PM 10-13-2
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* The Balkans take this trope UpToTheEleven with their long history of ethnic and religious tensions, as well as meddling by various outside forces. The Ottoman conquests and subsequent rebellions against their rule, the whole mess with Austrian expansion into the Balkans that led to the First World War, the Balkan Wars, World War 2, the Yugoslav Wars... some people who live there are still re-living these conflicts to this day.

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* The Balkans take this trope UpToTheEleven with their long history of ethnic and religious tensions, as well as meddling by various outside forces. The Ottoman conquests and subsequent rebellions against their rule, the whole mess with Austrian expansion into the Balkans that led to the First World War, the Balkan Wars, World War 2, the Yugoslav Wars... some people who live there are still re-living these conflicts to this day. One historian in the 1930s even claimed that if you could go back in time and interview all the members of a Balkan family for a thousand years of history, [[GenerationXerox they would all respond with the same bitter prejudice]].



* When UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} great Ty Cobb first came up from Georgia to join the Detroit Tigers in 1905, he was subjected to some light hazing, to which he responded violently. This led his teammate Sam Crawford to comment--verbatim--that Cobb was "still fighting the Civil War" in his mind, treating the other players as "damnyankees" before he even met them.[[note]]Truth be told, although even the biggest Tigers fan will admit that Cobb was a racist asshole, but most historians agree that his personal demons were a bigger driver of this than any Southern mindset.[[/note]]

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* When UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} great Ty Cobb first came up from Georgia to join the Detroit Tigers in 1905, he was subjected to some light hazing, to which he responded violently. This led his teammate Sam Crawford to comment--verbatim--that Cobb was "still fighting the Civil War" in his mind, treating the other players as "damnyankees" before he even met them.[[note]]Truth be told, although even the biggest Tigers fan will admit that Cobb was a racist asshole, but most historians agree that his personal demons were a bigger driver of this than any Southern mindset.[[/note]][[/note]]
* The people of Kazakhstan are intensely proud of their heritage, and have been known to insist that the Cossacks are "still on the march" - as if neither czarist Russia nor the Soviet Union ever existed.
31st Dec '15 3:19:43 PM 10-13-2
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* There was a minor heel named Jean Lafitte who claimed to be the direct ancestor of the 19th-century French pirate with the same name. Lafitte dressed up as his (supposed) famous ancestor and announced he was out for revenge against all Americans [[Wrestling/BretHart (and one Canadian)]] for an 1807 law that blockaded New Orleans, preventing pirates from entering the city [[note]] In fact, the blockade of New Orleans was part of a nationwide embargo intended to preserve American neutrality with both Britain and France, and had practically nothing to do with pirates. [[/note]] This was in the mid-1990s - [[ButForMeItWasTuesday long]], ''[[ButForMeItWasTuesday long]]'' [[ButForMeItWasTuesday after America had collectively forgotten that the blockade had ever happened.]]
19th Dec '15 7:51:37 PM nombretomado
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** CMPunk enjoyed the longest single WWE Championship reign since the 1980s, at well over 400 days (November 2011 to January 2013). When he lost his title to TheRock after their match was restarted once it was proven that TheShield had intervened, Punk claimed that he'd been unfairly robbed of the title, that the Rock's victory was a farce, and that his record title run was continuing despite even what WWE itself said. Eventually even he had to acknowledge that he was in a disadvantageous position, so he challenged ''Royal Rumble'' winner Wrestling/JohnCena for his ''[=WrestleMania=]'' title shot - and lost, in what many consider to be one of the most epic WWE matches ever shown on television. Only then did Punk give up on the title, moving on to his obsession with trying to end the career of TheUndertaker.

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** CMPunk enjoyed the longest single WWE Championship reign since the 1980s, at well over 400 days (November 2011 to January 2013). When he lost his title to TheRock after their match was restarted once it was proven that TheShield Wrestling/TheShield had intervened, Punk claimed that he'd been unfairly robbed of the title, that the Rock's victory was a farce, and that his record title run was continuing despite even what WWE itself said. Eventually even he had to acknowledge that he was in a disadvantageous position, so he challenged ''Royal Rumble'' winner Wrestling/JohnCena for his ''[=WrestleMania=]'' title shot - and lost, in what many consider to be one of the most epic WWE matches ever shown on television. Only then did Punk give up on the title, moving on to his obsession with trying to end the career of TheUndertaker.
25th Nov '15 1:20:59 PM gallium
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* An entire town in Brazil, called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americana,_S%C3%A3o_Paulo Americana]], was founded by Confederates emigrating after losing the Civil War (and looking for a place where they could still hold slaves, as Brazil did not ban slavery until 1888). Descendants of the "Confederados" have lived there ever since.
30th Oct '15 6:30:15 PM nombretomado
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** CMPunk enjoyed the longest single WWE Championship reign since the 1980s, at well over 400 days (November 2011 to January 2013). When he lost his title to TheRock after their match was restarted once it was proven that TheShield had intervened, Punk claimed that he'd been unfairly robbed of the title, that the Rock's victory was a farce, and that his record title run was continuing despite even what WWE itself said. Eventually even he had to acknowledge that he was in a disadvantageous position, so he challenged ''Royal Rumble'' winner JohnCena for his ''[=WrestleMania=]'' title shot - and lost, in what many consider to be one of the most epic WWE matches ever shown on television. Only then did Punk give up on the title, moving on to his obsession with trying to end the career of TheUndertaker.

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** CMPunk enjoyed the longest single WWE Championship reign since the 1980s, at well over 400 days (November 2011 to January 2013). When he lost his title to TheRock after their match was restarted once it was proven that TheShield had intervened, Punk claimed that he'd been unfairly robbed of the title, that the Rock's victory was a farce, and that his record title run was continuing despite even what WWE itself said. Eventually even he had to acknowledge that he was in a disadvantageous position, so he challenged ''Royal Rumble'' winner JohnCena Wrestling/JohnCena for his ''[=WrestleMania=]'' title shot - and lost, in what many consider to be one of the most epic WWE matches ever shown on television. Only then did Punk give up on the title, moving on to his obsession with trying to end the career of TheUndertaker.
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