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4th Sep '16 11:51:02 AM isolato
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* The aptly named ''Titan'' in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/TalesOfPirxThePilot'' is a luxury liner taken UpToEleven and [[DescriptionPorn described in loving detail]][[note]]Bars. Casinos. Four movie theaters. A department store. A concert hall. [[SerialEscalation A copy of and old-fashioned city lane complete with gas lanterns, a moon and genuine back-alley cats.]] [[{{Zeerust}} Eighteen direct communication lines to Earth serving the passengers]]. (And the ship's communication also apparently [[EveryoneKnowsMorse operates in Morse]], although this can be just a backup emergency method.)[[/note]], and its contrast with usual cargo spacecrafts in Pirx's universe is lampshaded.

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* The aptly named ''Titan'' in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/TalesOfPirxThePilot'' is a luxury liner taken UpToEleven and [[DescriptionPorn described in loving detail]][[note]]Bars.detail]][[note]][[LongList Bars. Casinos. Four movie theaters. A department store. A concert hall. [[SerialEscalation A copy of and old-fashioned city lane complete with gas lanterns, a moon and genuine back-alley cats.]] [[{{Zeerust}} Eighteen direct communication lines to Earth serving the passengers]]. (And the ship's communication also apparently [[EveryoneKnowsMorse operates in Morse]], although this can be just a backup emergency method.)[[/note]], and its contrast with usual cargo spacecrafts in Pirx's universe is lampshaded.
19th Aug '16 9:30:32 AM isolato
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* The aptly named ''Titan'' in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/TalesOfPirxThePilot''.

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* The aptly named ''Titan'' in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/TalesOfPirxThePilot''.''Literature/TalesOfPirxThePilot'' is a luxury liner taken UpToEleven and [[DescriptionPorn described in loving detail]][[note]]Bars. Casinos. Four movie theaters. A department store. A concert hall. [[SerialEscalation A copy of and old-fashioned city lane complete with gas lanterns, a moon and genuine back-alley cats.]] [[{{Zeerust}} Eighteen direct communication lines to Earth serving the passengers]]. (And the ship's communication also apparently [[EveryoneKnowsMorse operates in Morse]], although this can be just a backup emergency method.)[[/note]], and its contrast with usual cargo spacecrafts in Pirx's universe is lampshaded.
10th Aug '16 3:50:33 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Pleasingly lampshaded in the accompanying book series when the covenant command centre is revealed to be located in the exact centre of the ship, surrounded by as much metal and armor as possible, and interfacing with the outside by computer screens. Makes considerably more sense than putting it in a greenhouse at the end of the ship which needs to be facing the enemy in order to shoot. Even better, the Elites are convinced that the humans are inhumanly ballsy for putting their command centers out in the open like that, (probably correctly) reasoning that it serves no tactical purpose.

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** Pleasingly lampshaded in the accompanying book series when the covenant books where Covenant command centre is centres are revealed to be located in the exact centre of the ship, their ships, surrounded by as much metal and armor as possible, and interfacing with the outside by computer screens. Makes considerably more sense than putting it in a greenhouse at the end of the ship which needs to be facing the enemy in order to shoot. Even better, the Elites are convinced that the humans are inhumanly ballsy for putting their command centers out in the open like that, (probably correctly) reasoning that it serves no tactical purpose.
30th Jul '16 1:01:28 PM nombretomado
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* Dahak from DavidWeber's ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes''. But then again, it is [[strike:a light cruiser that's the size of]] the moon, so having giant parks is okay.

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* Dahak from DavidWeber's Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes''. But then again, it is [[strike:a light cruiser that's the size of]] the moon, so having giant parks is okay.
1st Jul '16 1:50:54 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' has ships that house entire cities, though humanity's [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross first one]] was originally an alien military craft designed for giants; while subsequent colony ships are deliberately designed to be self-sustaining cities in space, their military starship escorts have far more utilitarian designs.

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* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' has ships that house entire cities, though humanity's [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross first one]] was originally an alien military craft designed for giants; while subsequent colony ships are deliberately designed to be self-sustaining cities in space, space capable of keeping their inhabitants in relative luxury, their military starship escorts have far more utilitarian designs.
1st Jul '16 1:47:44 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' has ships that house entire cities. Though the first one was designed for giants, and subsequent ones were designed as cities in space, and the actual starship was far more conventional.

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* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' has ships that house entire cities. Though the cities, though humanity's [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross first one one]] was originally an alien military craft designed for giants, and giants; while subsequent ones were colony ships are deliberately designed as to be self-sustaining cities in space, and the actual their military starship was escorts have far more conventional.utilitarian designs.
30th Jun '16 3:55:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': After the Day of Chaos, four thousand of Mega-City One's wealthiest citizens decide to escape the [[CrapsackWorld hellhole that planet Earth has become]] to find a new world to settle. Their years of travel will be spent on the luxurious ''Mayflower'' colony ship, with artificial beaches, forests, a baseball park, and good dining. Unfortunately, their choice to only staff the ship with a single sheriff and no heavy duty weaponry (it was meant to be a peaceful utopia, see) means that they're all easy pickings when the [[OmnicidalManiac four evil Dark Judges]] hitch a ride on the ship.
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29th Jun '16 4:49:19 PM MarkWilder
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has [[TheFederation Federation]] vessels more in line with luxury liners than military vessels. The ''[[CoolStarship Enterprise]]''[[CoolStarship -D]] of ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Next Generation]]'' is probably the second worst offender (see below). In fact, when [[TheEngineer Scotty]] from [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] visits the ''Enterprise''-D, he is stunned at the size of the guest room they put him in. The Ensign assigned to him initially misunderstands and offers to find him something even ''larger''.
** The production designer who designed the original ''Enterprise'''s bridge once complained that the bridge of the ''Enterprise''-D looked more like a Hilton Hotel lobby than a functional starship bridge. This is highly lampshaded in multiple media, especially with Picard in the Shatner series. Many remarked that the ''Enterprise''-D was the peak of a fashion/luxury curve and the introduction of the Borg brought a back-to-basics approach to Starfleet.\\\
It was originally ''worse''. The early artistic conceptions for the ''Enterprise''-D bridge would have no consoles or active controls at all, everything would be done by voice command to the computers, and the whole bridge was basically one long curved bench (to signify the non-hierarchical future mindset). With hanging plants and other casual touches. A remnant of that was the three command seats together at the center, and the 'coffee bar' look of the whole thing.\\\
However, surprisingly, the greater size is largely illusion: The classic bridge and the "D" bridge are very close together in size.
** In A.H. Wokanovics' "Three Faces, Same Mirror", written for ''Trek'' magazine, the ''Enterprise''-D was referred to as "a magnificently refined work of space-going sculpture" and "our padded cocktail lounge in the sky".
** And for the ''very'' worst offender (especially in regards to the fact that this about ''eighty years'' before the ''Galaxy''-class was made), the [[Film/StarTrek 2009]] ContinuityReboot of the series shows just how {{Zeerust}}y [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]] is. [[http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm The new exterior design of the Enterprise is already a very loose variation of the original, but they redesigned the bridge so that you can't even recognize it as the original]] ''[[CoolStarship Enterprise]]'' bridge. [[RuleOfCool It's not necessarily a bad thing]], but those are some ''huge'' BroadStrokes Abrams took.
** Note that Starfleet [[MildlyMilitary isn't really a military organization]]. Its primary roles are scientific research and diplomacy, the latter of which could perhaps justify this, as it makes sense for a diplomatic vessel to be reasonably aesthetically pleasing. Particularly in the case of the ''Enterprise'', being the fleet's flagship. For the alternate timeline of "Yesterday's Enterprise" the interior sets were redesigned to show us what the ''Enterprise'' would look like if it ''had'' been designed as a warship, and the difference is stark: a far more utilitarian bridge, overcrowded corridors, constant PA announcements (that even included a reference to a combat information center), and a Ten-Forward that wasn't a bar so much as place for the crew to gather and eat the Starfleet equivalent of B-rations.
** Meanwhile, ''Defiant''-class ships, the first dedicated warships in a long time, are described as being cramped (at least by the standards of Federation citizens), and those we have seen have stacked bunks instead of the spacious apartments afforded to everyone on normal starships.
** The same goes for the ''Enterprise'' NX-01 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', which has very few windows and looks far more like the inside of your average warship than a ''Galaxy''-class starship. The captain's quarters are only slightly larger than enlisted crew quarters on the NCC-1701, and it's explicitly mentioned that the captain's quarters on ''that'' vessel were the size of junior officers' quarters on the NCC-1701-D. Apparently, starships have gotten larger and more extravagant over time.
** The enlisted crewmen's quarters on the smaller USS ''Voyager'' seen in the LowerDeckEpisode; a 2-person room is about the size of a walk-in closet.
** On the other hand, the roominess and comfort of the ''Galaxy''-class vessels is somewhat {{justified|Trope}} by the fact that the Federation is supposed to be a more or less post-scarcity economy: it costs the Federation nothing to make the ship unusually large and comfortable, so why not go for the psychological benefits?
** Mind you, the ''Enterprise''-D is the exception, rather than the rule, for Starfleet ships, at least by standards of the 24th century. One episode has the captain of a more typical ''Excelsior''-class starship [[LampshadeHanging describe the]] ''[[LampshadeHanging Enterprise]]'' [[LampshadeHanging as a "Flying Hotel".]] Of course, she is the "Flagship of Starfleet", and was presumably designed at least in part to demonstrate the Federation's power and (collective) wealth to others she would encounter in her travels.
** Averted with [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Klingon]] ships, especially in the [[ExpandedUniverse EU]]. For example, the newest ''Qang''-class warships of the ''IKS Gorkon'' novels feature cramped bunks for the thousands of troops on-board. Then again, Klingons don't really like comfort (they never bathe, except when it makes their ambushes more successful).
*** When Worf's brother Kurn visited the Big E he said "This entire ship seems built on comfort, relaxation, being at ease. It is not the ship of a warrior -- not the ship of a Klingon."
*** We get to see what Klingon [=VIP=] quarters are like when Picard and Data get a lift from a Klingon ship to go look for Spock (who's on Romulus, so they need a cloaked ship to go there). It's all metal, including the bed. Which is a shelf that slides out of a wall. Data doesn't even call it a bed, just a shelf, when telling Picard he can have it. (Klingons do ''know'' about luxury, but don't view it as appropriate on warships.) The cabin is also fairly small, particularly when you consider how a TV set is usually sort of opened out from the way a real room would be.
** WordOfGod (at least for ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'') is that the designers knew full well that a real starship wouldn't have those broad corridors (instead having narrow corridors like, for instance, real Navy ships have), but there were other, practical considerations, like being able to maneuver the cameras through the corridors to follow walking characters. The senior officer's quarters are also not all that large, and they appear to also have a chunk of space set aside for use as an office (which makes sense, as only [=McCoy=] works in an area of the ship which can plausibly have an office space for the department head, and still doesn't seem to have one there). The mess hall, rec rooms, and conference rooms shown are all also relatively small given that the crew is supposed to number in the hundreds.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has tends to [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zag this trope]]:
** WordOfGod for ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' is that the designers knew full well that a real starship wouldn't have broad corridors (instead having narrow corridors like, for instance, real Navy ships have), but there were other, practical considerations, like being able to maneuver the cameras through the corridors to follow walking characters. The senior officer's quarters are also not all that large, and [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/cd/Jonathan_Archer_%28mirror%29_in_a_wraparound_tunic.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120318174717&path-prefix=en they have a chunk of space set aside for use as an office]] (which makes sense, as only [=McCoy=] works in an area of the ship which can plausibly have an office space for the department head). The mess hall, rec rooms, and conference rooms shown are all also relatively small given that the crew is supposed to number in the hundreds.
*** On the other hand, the roominess of Federation vessels is somewhat {{justified|Trope}} by the fact that the Federation is supposed to be a more or less post-scarcity economy: it costs the Federation nothing to make the ship unusually large and comfortable, so why not go for the psychological benefits?
** However, [[SequelGap 18 years later,]] (which translates to [[{{Continuity}} 80 years in-universe]]) the
[[TheFederation Federation]] Federation's]] Galaxy Class vessels more in line with luxury liners than military vessels. The (One of which is the ''[[CoolStarship Enterprise]]''[[CoolStarship -D]] of ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Next Generation]]'' is probably the second worst offender (see below).Generation]]''), are more in line with luxury liners than military vessels. In fact, when [[TheEngineer Scotty]] from [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] visits the ''Enterprise''-D, he is stunned at the size of the guest room they put him in. The Ensign assigned to him initially misunderstands and offers to find him something even ''larger''.
** The production designer who designed the original ''Enterprise'''s bridge once complained that the bridge of
''larger''. Mind you, the ''Enterprise''-D looked is the ''exception,'' rather than the rule, for Starfleet ships. One episode has the captain of a more like a Hilton Hotel lobby than a functional typical ''Excelsior''-class starship bridge. This is highly lampshaded in multiple media, especially with Picard in the Shatner series. Many remarked that [[LampshadeHanging describe the]] ''[[LampshadeHanging Enterprise]]'' [[LampshadeHanging as a "Flying Hotel".]] According to fans, [[WildMassGuessing the ''Enterprise''-D was the peak of a fashion/luxury curve and the introduction of the Borg brought a back-to-basics approach to Starfleet.\\\
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*** The production designer who designed the original ''Enterprise'''s [[TheBridge bridge]] once complained that the bridge of the ''Enterprise''-D looked more like a Hilton Hotel lobby than a functional starship bridge.
***
It was originally ''worse''. The early artistic conceptions for the ''Enterprise''-D bridge would have no consoles or active controls at all, everything would be done by voice command to the computers, and the whole bridge was basically one long curved bench (to signify the non-hierarchical future mindset). With hanging plants and other casual touches. A remnant of that was the three command seats together at the center, and the 'coffee bar' look of the whole thing.\\\
However, surprisingly,
thing.
** Possibly as a reaction to
the greater Galaxy Class, in all later series, this Trope is [[AvertedTrope strongly averted.]] The enlisted crewmen's quarters on the USS ''Voyager'' seen in the LowerDeckEpisode; a 2-person room is about the size is largely illusion: The classic bridge of a walk-in closet. ''Defiant''-class ships are described as being cramped, and the "D" bridge are very close together in size.
** In A.H. Wokanovics' "Three Faces, Same Mirror", written for ''Trek'' magazine,
crew quarters we have seen have stacked bunks instead of the ''Enterprise''-D was referred spacious apartments afforded to as "a magnificently refined work of space-going sculpture" and "our padded cocktail lounge in the sky".
** And
everyone on Galaxy Class starships. The same goes for the ''very'' worst offender (especially in regards to ''Enterprise'' NX-01 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', which has very few windows and looks far more like the fact that this about ''eighty years'' before the inside of your average warship than a ''Galaxy''-class was made), starship. The captain's quarters are only slightly larger than enlisted crew quarters on the NCC-1701.
** The ''very worst'' offender is
the [[Film/StarTrek 2009]] ContinuityReboot of the series shows just how {{Zeerust}}y [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]] is.original series. [[http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm The new exterior design of the Enterprise is already a very loose variation of the original, but they redesigned the bridge so that you can't even recognize it as the original]] ''[[CoolStarship Enterprise]]'' bridge. [[RuleOfCool It's not necessarily a bad thing]], but those are some ''huge'' ''very'' BroadStrokes Abrams took.
** Note that Starfleet [[MildlyMilitary isn't really a military organization]]. Its primary roles are scientific research and diplomacy, the latter of which could perhaps justify this, as it makes sense for a diplomatic vessel to be reasonably aesthetically pleasing. Particularly in the case of the ''Enterprise'', being the fleet's flagship. For the alternate timeline of "Yesterday's Enterprise" the interior sets were redesigned to show us what the ''Enterprise'' would look like if it ''had'' been designed as a warship, and the difference is stark: a far more utilitarian bridge, overcrowded corridors, constant PA announcements (that even included a reference to a combat information center), and a Ten-Forward that wasn't a bar so much as place for the crew to gather and eat the Starfleet equivalent of B-rations.
** Meanwhile, ''Defiant''-class ships, the first dedicated warships in a long time, are described as being cramped (at least by the standards of Federation citizens), and those we have seen have stacked bunks instead of the spacious apartments afforded to everyone on normal starships.
** The same goes for the ''Enterprise'' NX-01 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', which has very few windows and looks far more like the inside of your average warship than a ''Galaxy''-class starship. The captain's quarters are only slightly larger than enlisted crew quarters on the NCC-1701, and it's explicitly mentioned that the captain's quarters on ''that'' vessel were the size of junior officers' quarters on the NCC-1701-D. Apparently, starships have gotten larger and more extravagant over time.
** The enlisted crewmen's quarters on the smaller USS ''Voyager'' seen in the LowerDeckEpisode; a 2-person room is about the size of a walk-in closet.
** On the other hand, the roominess and comfort of the ''Galaxy''-class vessels is somewhat {{justified|Trope}} by the fact that the Federation is supposed to be a more or less post-scarcity economy: it costs the Federation nothing to make the ship unusually large and comfortable, so why not go for the psychological benefits?
** Mind you, the ''Enterprise''-D is the exception, rather than the rule, for Starfleet ships, at least by standards of the 24th century. One episode has the captain of a more typical ''Excelsior''-class starship [[LampshadeHanging describe the]] ''[[LampshadeHanging Enterprise]]'' [[LampshadeHanging as a "Flying Hotel".]] Of course, she is the "Flagship of Starfleet", and was presumably designed at least in part to demonstrate the Federation's power and (collective) wealth to others she would encounter in her travels.
** Averted with [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Klingon]] ships, especially in the [[ExpandedUniverse EU]]. For example, the newest ''Qang''-class warships of the ''IKS Gorkon'' novels feature cramped bunks for the thousands of troops on-board. Then again, Klingons don't really like comfort (they never bathe, except when it makes their ambushes more successful).
***
ships. When Worf's brother Kurn visited the Big E he said "This entire ship seems built on comfort, relaxation, being at ease. It is not the ship of a warrior -- not the ship of a Klingon."
*** We get to see what Klingon [=VIP=] quarters are like when Picard and Data get a lift from a Klingon ship to go look for Spock (who's on Romulus, so they need a cloaked ship to go there). It's all metal, including the bed. Which is a shelf that slides out of a wall. Data doesn't even call it a bed, just a shelf, when telling Picard he can have it. (Klingons do ''know'' about luxury, but don't view it luxury as appropriate on warships.) The cabin is also fairly small, particularly when you consider how a TV set is usually sort of opened out from the way a real room would be.
** WordOfGod (at least for ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'') is that the designers knew full well that a real starship wouldn't have those broad corridors (instead having narrow corridors like, for instance, real Navy ships have), but there were other, practical considerations, like being able to maneuver the cameras through the corridors to follow walking characters. The senior officer's quarters are also not all that large, and they appear to also have a chunk of space set aside for use as an office (which makes sense, as only [=McCoy=] works in an area of the ship which can plausibly have an office space for the department head, and still doesn't seem to have one there). The mess hall, rec rooms, and conference rooms shown are all also relatively small given that the crew is supposed to number in the hundreds.
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28th Jun '16 4:54:43 PM Nippertipper
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In media, spacecraft and starships (especially the CoolStarship) [[UnnecessarilyLargeInterior revel in their unnecessary use of on-board space.]] Passageways will be broad with high ceilings. The bridge will be an expansive multilevel complex paneled with floating viewscreens and control panels. Crew quarters will be as spacious as a suite at the Plaza.

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In media, both smaller spacecraft and larger starships (especially the CoolStarship) [[UnnecessarilyLargeInterior revel in their unnecessary use of on-board space.]] Passageways will be broad with high ceilings. The bridge will be an expansive multilevel complex paneled with floating viewscreens and control panels. Crew quarters will be as spacious as a suite at the Plaza.
23rd Jun '16 5:01:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/MonstersVsAliens''. Really, it's a plot necessity if you're going to have a 49 foot, 11 1/2 inch woman rampaging through it.
* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. The ''Axiom'' is a perfect example of this. Though it is intended for people to live on it as long as needed and taking up all of Earth's remaining resources so you would imagine it should look nice. The ''Axiom'' is specifically the flagship of the line, and all the ships are intended to transport a broad cross section of Earth's population. You can get away with much less pleasant surroundings for a careful selected crew than for just any random million people.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MonstersVsAliens''. Really, it's a plot necessity if you're going to have a 49 foot, 11 1/2 inch woman rampaging through it.
* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. The ''Axiom'' is a perfect example of this. Though it is intended for people to live on it as long as needed and taking up all of Earth's remaining resources so you would imagine it should look nice. The ''Axiom'' is specifically the flagship of the line, and all the ships are intended to transport a broad cross section of Earth's population. You can get away with much less pleasant surroundings for a careful selected crew than for just any random million people.
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