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23rd Jun '16 4:30:17 PM ScorpiusOB1
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Fiction writers seem to not just confuse UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} and UsefulNotes/{{Spain}}, but to fuse them into a strange amalgam of the most general stereotypes of both, much as {{Scotireland}} fuses Scotland and Ireland. Maybe it's because they share [[UsefulNotes/SpanishLanguage a language]] and [[ChristianityIsCatholic religion]], the fact that Mexico used to be a Spanish colony, they both have exotic foods and customs compared to an Anglo-Saxon culture[[note]]And compared to each other, as well.[[/note]], or simply that the author didn't check the facts ''and'' hasn't travelled much, either.

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Fiction writers seem to not just confuse UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} and UsefulNotes/{{Spain}}, but to fuse them into a strange amalgam of the most general stereotypes of both, much as {{Scotireland}} fuses Scotland and Ireland. Maybe it's because they share [[UsefulNotes/SpanishLanguage a language]] and [[ChristianityIsCatholic religion]], the fact that Mexico used to be a Spanish colony, they both have exotic foods and customs compared to an Anglo-Saxon culture[[note]]And compared to each other, as well.[[/note]], or simply [[TheyJustDidntCare that the author didn't check the facts facts]] ''and'' hasn't travelled much, either.



* Averted with Argos, the FantasyCounterpartCulture of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy''. While depicted as having a dry landscape (see "Real Life" below) very similar to (most of) RealLife Spain, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned, nor anything that resembles this trope[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].

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* Averted with Argos, the FantasyCounterpartCulture of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy''. While depicted as having a dry mostly barren landscape (see "Real Life" below) very similar to (most of) RealLife Spain, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned, nor anything that resembles this trope[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].helps[[/note]].



* On a train from Barcelona to Zaragoza[[note]]Or travelling across Spain's central plateau, for the case[[/note]], you might be surprised to see how much the landscape of the Spanish countryside looks like classic depictions of southwestern North America (almost like a [[WesternAnimation/WileECoyoteAndTheRoadRunner Road Runner]] cartoon). It is for this reason--as well as the high availability of dark-skinned, Spanish-speaking actors, that Creator/SergioLeone and other Italian directors of "{{Spaghetti Western}}s" tended to shoot their films in Spain, particularly in Andalucia, since getting to the actual Mexico or United States was simply too expensive.

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* On a train from Barcelona to Zaragoza[[note]]Or travelling across Zaragoza[[note]]As well as in other places of Spain's central plateau, for the case[[/note]], plateau[[/note]], you might be surprised to see how much the landscape of the Spanish countryside looks like classic depictions of southwestern North America (almost like a [[WesternAnimation/WileECoyoteAndTheRoadRunner Road Runner]] cartoon). It is for this reason--as well as the high availability of dark-skinned, Spanish-speaking actors, that Creator/SergioLeone and other Italian directors of "{{Spaghetti Western}}s" tended to shoot their films in Spain, particularly in Andalucia, since getting to the actual Mexico or United States was simply too expensive.
21st Jun '16 4:55:19 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* Averted with Argos, the [[FantasyCounterpartCulture]] of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy''. While depicted as having a dry landscape very similar to (most of, see "Real Life" below) RealLife Spain, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned, nor anything that resembles this trope[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].

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* Averted with Argos, the [[FantasyCounterpartCulture]] FantasyCounterpartCulture of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy''. While depicted as having a dry landscape very similar to (most of, see (see "Real Life" below) very similar to (most of) RealLife Spain, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned, nor anything that resembles this trope[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].
21st Jun '16 4:53:36 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* Argos, the {{Expy}} of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy'', averts this trope. While is depicted as having a dry landscape very similar to (most of) RealLife Spain one, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].

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* Averted with Argos, the {{Expy}} [[FantasyCounterpartCulture]] of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy'', averts this trope. ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy''. While is depicted as having a dry landscape very similar to (most of) of, see "Real Life" below) RealLife Spain one, Spain, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned[[note]]That mentioned, nor anything that resembles this trope[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].
21st Jun '16 4:44:04 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* In the very beginning of the Creator/DataEast arcade game ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinmaster Spinmaster]]'' you enter into an airport with a sign that reads ''[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/arcade/spinmaster/screenshots/gameShotId,672370/ Madrid Airport]]'', complete with a waving Spanish flag. RealLife [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid-Barajas_Airport Madrid airport]] is ''very'' different of the game's one and to take this UpToEleven, looks like the developers put Madrid in ''America'' instead of Europe.
21st Jun '16 4:40:25 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* Argos, the {{Expy}} of Spain in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy'', averts this trope. While is depicted as having a dry landscape very similar to (most of) RealLife Spain one, complete with windmills and resembling the real country during the epoch of the Catholic Monarchs (feudalism, strong ties to the Church, and (exaggerated) religious fanatism) TorosYFlamenco is nowhere mentioned[[note]]That the game is Spanish surely helps.[[/note]].
20th Jun '16 11:31:31 AM Naram-Sin
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* ''{{Series/Alias}}'':
** "Parity": Rampant use of LatinoIsBrown and [[UsefulNotes/SeparatedByACommonLanguage very Mexican]] Spanish dialogue in Madrid (e.g. ''checar'' for "to check").

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* ''{{Series/Alias}}'':
** "Parity": Rampant use of LatinoIsBrown
In ''{{Series/Alias}}'', Sydney went to Spain twice per season, but the Spanish was always Latin American. The worst time was the first ("Parity"), where more than one Madrid security guard was not merely [[LatinoIsBrown brown]], but obviously Amerindian, and there was the [[UsefulNotes/SeparatedByACommonLanguage very Mexican]] Spanish dialogue occasional word]] not even used in Madrid (e.g. ''checar'' Latin America out of Mexico (''checar'' for "to check").
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19th Jun '16 8:46:28 AM Naram-Sin
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* ''{{WesternAnimation|Hurricanes}}'': [[TorosYFlamenco Toro]] [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Contrais]], a Spaniard from Pamplona, becomes a Mexican ''luchador'' named "The Masked Matador" when he is expelled from the team.

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* ''{{WesternAnimation|Hurricanes}}'': ''{{WesternAnimation/Hurricanes}}'': [[TorosYFlamenco Toro]] [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Contrais]], a Spaniard from Pamplona, becomes a the Mexican ''luchador'' named "The Masked Matador" when he is expelled from the team.
19th Jun '16 8:43:37 AM Naram-Sin
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{TMNT}}'', the four ancient Aztec generals are named Mono, Gato, Aguila, and Serpiente. Why would ancient Aztec people from 1000BC have names in Spanish? Not only did the Spanish language not exist 3000 years ago (for that matter, it's debatable whether ''Latin'' did) - the Spanish people did not colonize Mexico till after 1492 AD, and the Aztec Empire itself got started in 1323 ''CE''. So this is also an AnachronismStew.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{TMNT}}'', the four ancient Aztec generals are named Mono, Gato, Aguila, and Serpiente. Why would ancient Aztec people from 1000BC have names in Spanish? Not only did the Spanish language not exist 3000 years ago (for that matter, it's debatable whether ''Latin'' did) - the Spanish people did not colonize Mexico till after 1492 1519 AD, and the Aztec Empire itself got started in 1323 ''CE''.AD. So this is also an AnachronismStew.




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* ''{{WesternAnimation|Hurricanes}}'': [[TorosYFlamenco Toro]] [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Contrais]], a Spaniard from Pamplona, becomes a Mexican ''luchador'' named "The Masked Matador" when he is expelled from the team.
11th Jun '16 4:56:12 AM Naram-Sin
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* In an episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', [=DiNozzo=] claims that paella was named after an Aztec god. Doubles it by naming the god "Paellus", which sounds like [[GratuitousLatin the wrong kind of Latin.]]

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* In an episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', [=DiNozzo=] claims that paella was named after an "the Aztec god.god [[LatinLover of sex]]". Doubles it by naming the god "Paellus", which sounds like [[GratuitousLatin the wrong kind of Latin.]]



* ''Series/TheUnit''': In "Non-Permissive Environment", the team must escape from a version of Valencia, Spain with Chicano street art, Panama hats and coconut street vendors.
* The [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona street scenes]] in the episode "[[TorosYFlamenco El Toro Bravo]]" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'' were filmed in the "[[http://www.thestudiotour.com/ush/backlot/oldmexico.shtml Old Mexico]]" set at {{Universal}} Studios, a place better suited for a Pancho Villa or {{Franchise/Zorro}} flick with dwarf palms, cacti, sand-covered streets and buildings clearly intended for a climate both warmer and dryer,[[note]]Mostly [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_California_missions Mission style]], but with more than one flat [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Pueblo,_New_Mexico Puebloan-like]] rooftop[[/note]] which is only made more obvious by the abundant stock footage of the real [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamplona Pamplona]]. Why they didn't film in the "[[http://www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studios/universal-studios-hollywood/backlot/current-backlot-sets/little-europe/ Little Europe]]" set used by ''Series/CarolineInTheCity'' and ''Series/TheUnit'' is anyone's guess. Another puzzling element is that the actors playing Spaniards (none of them born in Spain) were apparently coached to make a Spaniard accent when speaking English, but not when speaking Spanish. Most tried on their own ([[OohMeAccentsSlipping with variable success]]) but the one playing the BiggerBad didn't.

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* ''Series/TheUnit''': ''Series/TheUnit'': In "Non-Permissive Environment", the team must escape from a version of Valencia, Spain with Chicano street art, Panama hats and hats, coconut street vendors.
vendors and ubiquitous Caribbean accents.
* The [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona street scenes]] in the episode "[[TorosYFlamenco El Toro Bravo]]" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'' were filmed in the "[[http://www.thestudiotour.com/ush/backlot/oldmexico.shtml Old Mexico]]" set at {{Universal}} Studios, a place better suited for a Pancho Villa or {{Franchise/Zorro}} flick with dwarf palms, cacti, sand-covered streets and buildings clearly intended for a climate both warmer and dryer,[[note]]Mostly drier,[[note]]Mostly [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_California_missions Mission style]], but with more than one flat [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Pueblo,_New_Mexico Puebloan-like]] rooftop[[/note]] which is only made more obvious by the abundant stock footage of the real [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamplona Pamplona]]. Why they didn't film in the "[[http://www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studios/universal-studios-hollywood/backlot/current-backlot-sets/little-europe/ Little Europe]]" set used by ''Series/TheUnit'' and ''Series/CarolineInTheCity'' and ''Series/TheUnit'' (this one with its own Running of the Bulls, even) is anyone's guess. Another puzzling element is that the actors playing Spaniards (none of them born in Spain) were apparently coached to make a Spaniard accent when speaking English, but not when speaking Spanish. Most tried on their own ([[OohMeAccentsSlipping with variable success]]) but the one playing the BiggerBad didn't.
* ''{{Series/Alias}}'':
** "Parity": Rampant use of LatinoIsBrown and [[UsefulNotes/SeparatedByACommonLanguage very Mexican]] Spanish dialogue in Madrid (e.g. ''checar'' for "to check").
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