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20th Jan '16 2:43:58 AM Fallingwater
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* A real-life example of "abandoned Soviet experiment" is the NK-33 closed circuit rocket engine. Originally intended for use in the attempt to get a man on the Moon, the prototypes were supposed to be destroyed once that project was cancelled. Sore losers the Soviets. Fortunately, several NK-33 engines were hidden in a warehouse by their designer, Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kuznetsov. That happened in the 70s. Fast forward to the 90s, when somewhat improved relations between East and West, and presumably some money, helped the old relics emerge from storage, where they proved to be still cutting edge tech despite being two decades old. If [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33 Wikipedia is to be believed]], the NK-33 achieves the highest thrust-to-mass ratio among all currently existing rocket engines, and it, or variations thereof, are now used by satellite launch companies like Orbital Sciences Corporation and several future space projects plan to employ them as well.
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* A real-life example of "abandoned Soviet experiment" is the NK-33 closed circuit rocket engine. Originally intended for use in the attempt to get a man on the Moon, the prototypes were supposed to be destroyed once that project was cancelled. Sore losers the Soviets. Fortunately, several NK-33 engines were hidden in a warehouse by their designer, Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kuznetsov. That happened in the 70s. Fast forward to the 90s, when somewhat improved relations between East and West, and presumably some money, helped the old relics emerge from storage, where they proved to be still cutting edge tech despite being two decades old. If [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33 Wikipedia is to be believed]], the NK-33 achieves the highest thrust-to-mass ratio among all currently existing rocket engines, engines. ** The stored NK-33 were refitted by Aerojet by getting rid of the old stock Soviet electronics, adapting the engines to US circuitry and it, or variations thereof, are now modifying the steering systems. The result is called the AJ-26, and was used by satellite launch companies like Orbital Sciences Corporation in their Antares rocket. Emphasis on the past tense: in the great Soviet tradition AJ-26s soon began blowing up on test stands, and several future space projects plan when one exploded in actual use - taking with it an Antares and a load of supplies for the International Space Station - Orbital Sciences had a change of mind and decided to employ them as well.leave this particular bit of Soviet Superscience to the history books.
9th Jan '16 2:09:15 PM MarkLungo
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** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".
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** Before [[RedOctober [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".
9th Jan '16 2:08:55 PM MarkLungo
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StupidJetpackHitler is a SisterTrope, giving ThoseWackyNazis things like PoweredArmor and {{Cool Airship}}s, while {{Ghostapo}} could be a "cousin trope", in that it's a more mystical version of StupidJetpackHitler. All of these are culture-specific [[{{subtrope}} sub-disciplines]] of MadScience. See also ClosedCities, which is where Soviet Superscience is created; they range from ordinary cities declared off-limits to foreigners to full-fledged [[VideoGame/HalfLife Black Mesa]] style complexes hidden in the lost mountains of Siberia.
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StupidJetpackHitler is a SisterTrope, giving ThoseWackyNazis things like PoweredArmor and {{Cool Airship}}s, while {{Ghostapo}} could be a "cousin trope", in that it's a more mystical version of StupidJetpackHitler. All of these are culture-specific [[{{subtrope}} sub-disciplines]] of MadScience. See also ClosedCities, UsefulNotes/ClosedCities, which is where Soviet Superscience is created; they range from ordinary cities declared off-limits to foreigners to full-fledged [[VideoGame/HalfLife Black Mesa]] style complexes hidden in the lost mountains of Siberia.

31st Dec '15 12:12:25 PM SSJMagus
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** The [[http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/automatic-fedorov-e.html Fedorov Avtomat]] is technically the first assault rifle, as they fire medium-powered 6.5mm Arisaka rounds.
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** The [[http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/automatic-fedorov-e.html Fedorov Avtomat]] is technically the first assault rifle, rifle (or something very close to it), as they fire medium-powered 6.5mm Arisaka rounds.

** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets".
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** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".
29th Dec '15 1:45:04 AM Omeganian
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* It's not only ''military'' nuclear power. When the Soviets announced in 1969 that they maintained 10 million kelvin plasma in their T-3 [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak tokamak]] for 10 milliseconds, the western scientists [[http://www.iter.org/newsline/102/1401 were so skeptical (it was about ten times what anyone else managed) that they demanded their own team be allowed to check]].
26th Nov '15 10:09:55 PM DragonRanger
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** The UltimateMarvel series "Ultimate Nightmare" took place almost entirely in a complex dedicated to this.
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** The UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel series "Ultimate Nightmare" took place almost entirely in a complex dedicated to this.this. They worked by disassembling [[ComicBook/TheVision an alien robot]] found in TheTunguskaEvent, piece by piece, and grafting its parts to test subjects. ** Not Soviet ''super''science, but related: [[ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Cosmo the Spacedog]], who got lost in space during a cosmonaut test flight. He got PsychicPowers while in space, but we don't know how it happened and it's likely not to involve the Soviets at all.

* ''Film/IronMan2'': Anton Vanko, a Soviet defector, co-developed the arc reactor technology with Tony's father in the 1960s.
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* ''Film/IronMan2'': Anton Vanko, a Soviet defector, co-developed the arc reactor technology with Tony's father in the 1960s. Otherwise generally averted in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, as projects that were examples of this in the comics are either Soviet ''or'' superscience, but not both: the Black Widow program was simply TrainingFromHell, while the Winter Soldier was a [[spoiler:HYDRA]] project as opposed to Russian.

* Recently, played straight in the ''{{Series/Fringe}}'' episode "Earthling". *** Well, not exactly. Walter does mentions the Russians were up to their own Fringe Science during TheColdWar, but the MonsterOfTheWeek in the episode was NOT their creation, but rather something that infected and bonded with one of their cosmonauts.
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* Recently, played Played straight in the ''{{Series/Fringe}}'' episode "Earthling". *** ** Well, not exactly. Walter does mentions the Russians were up to their own Fringe Science during TheColdWar, but the MonsterOfTheWeek in the episode was NOT their creation, but rather something that infected and bonded with one of their cosmonauts.
26th Nov '15 1:06:29 PM ritzoreo
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* In the novel sci-fi novel ''Who?'' by Algis Budrys, the Soviets kidnap an American scientist after he was horribly injured in an accident. To help him recover, they perform extensive surgery on him. When he returns to the west he has a robotic face, head and arm, which makes him difficult to identify and extremely suspicious.
12th Nov '15 2:46:49 PM jormis29
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* ''Harbinger Down'' (2015) opens with a Soviet LK moon lander ComingInHot after [[spoiler:an experiment to make a cosmonaut immune to radiation has GoneHorriblyWrong.]]
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* ''Harbinger Down'' (2015) ''Film/HarbingerDown'' opens with a Soviet LK moon lander ComingInHot after [[spoiler:an experiment to make a cosmonaut immune to radiation has GoneHorriblyWrong.]]
3rd Nov '15 5:08:53 PM __Vano
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Historically, this trope owes itself to the Soviet Union's relative international isolation, both self-imposed and [[DirtyCommies external]], secrecy (especially about any thing military, and a lot of Soviet research was fully or partly military-related) and tendency of its enemies to assume the worse with the absence of information. In the broadest sense, historians of science [[note]]distinct from the history of arts and humanities, termed the ''history of scholarship''[[/note]] have concluded that even considering the destructive consequences of Lysenkoism and obstacles to publishing research, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism dialectical materialism]]--the philosophy that predates contemporary Marxism and serves as its scientific "foundation"--had an overall positive influence on scientific community of the USSR and the world as a whole ''science'' is certainly a thing with acknowledge-able accomplishments attributed to the state, but it's a far cry from the entertaining medium of Soviet ''super''science.
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Historically, this trope owes itself to the Soviet Union's relative international isolation, both self-imposed and [[DirtyCommies external]], secrecy (especially about any thing military, and a lot of Soviet research was fully or partly military-related) and tendency of its enemies to assume the worse with the absence of information. In the broadest sense, historians of science [[note]]distinct from the history of arts and humanities, termed the ''history of scholarship''[[/note]] have concluded that even considering the destructive consequences of Lysenkoism and obstacles to publishing research, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism dialectical materialism]]--the philosophy that predates contemporary Marxism and serves as its scientific "foundation"--had an overall positive influence on scientific community of the USSR and the world as a whole ''science'' whole. ''Science'' is certainly a thing with acknowledge-able accomplishments attributed to the state, but it's a far cry from the entertaining medium of Soviet ''super''science.
11th Oct '15 7:52:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* The MarvelUniverse has its share of Soviet experiments gone awry, particularly from the days of the Cold War.
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* The MarvelUniverse Franchise/MarvelUniverse has its share of Soviet experiments gone awry, particularly from the days of the Cold War.

* The obscure noir superhero series ''TheWinterMen'' imagines a massive military-industrial operation throughout Soviet history to build mechanical and biological superbeings. It doesn't work, but not quite for the reason you'd expect. * Though it's technically a FantasyCounterpartCulture, ''TheRedStar'' is abound in this trope.
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* The obscure noir superhero series ''TheWinterMen'' ''ComicBook/TheWinterMen'' imagines a massive military-industrial operation throughout Soviet history to build mechanical and biological superbeings. It doesn't work, but not quite for the reason you'd expect. * Though it's technically a FantasyCounterpartCulture, ''TheRedStar'' ''ComicBook/TheRedStar'' is abound in this trope.
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