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1st May '16 10:26:24 PM JackG
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* Honorable mention should go to Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, a self-taught rocket scientist who developed the principles of spaceflight long before Oberth and Goddard. Unfortunately despite being lauded in Soviet propaganda later in life, his role was minimal because few people outside Russia knew about his work.
1st May '16 10:15:14 PM JackG
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* And let's not forget the nasty shock that Sputnik caused, triggering the race to the Moon.
24th Mar '16 10:58:27 AM SSJMagus
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** Before [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".

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** Before [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky". This created some controversy, because Sikorsky is much more famous (even in Russia) for his development of American helicopters than for his Russian bomber.
5th Mar '16 3:23:58 PM FGHIK
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All in all, the Soviets had a mixed record as far as science goes - they [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin put the first man in space]], but also brought the world [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism Lysenkoism]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union the abuse of psychiatry for "rehabilitation" purposes]]. The USSR pioneered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_Keratotomy modern corrective eye surgery]], yet fell behind in steel manufacturing, despite experimenting with it the longest. The Soviets, however, [[ILoveNuclearPower loved Nuclear Power]]--the world's first nuclear power plant to generate electricity for a power grid went online in USSR--so there are some roots for the trope to grow from. Of course, the inconsistencies can be [[HandWave handwaved]] by the means of an AlternateUniverse, as ''Videogame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' testifies.

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All in all, the Soviets had a mixed record as far as science goes - they [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin put the first man in space]], but also brought the world [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism Lysenkoism]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union the abuse of psychiatry for "rehabilitation" purposes]]. The USSR pioneered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_Keratotomy modern corrective eye surgery]], yet fell behind in steel manufacturing, despite experimenting with it the longest. The Soviets, however, [[ILoveNuclearPower loved Nuclear Power]]--the Power]], the world's first nuclear power plant to generate electricity for a power grid went online in USSR--so USSR. Too bad [[{{UsefulNotes/Chernobyl}} a certain accident]] [[NeverLiveItDown ruined that reputation]]. So, there are some roots for the trope to grow from. Of course, the inconsistencies can be [[HandWave handwaved]] by the means of an AlternateUniverse, as ''Videogame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' testifies.
20th Jan '16 2:43:58 AM Fallingwater
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* A real-life example of "abandoned Soviet experiment" is the NK-33 closed circuit rocket engine. Originally intended for use in the attempt to get a man on the Moon, the prototypes were supposed to be destroyed once that project was cancelled. Sore losers the Soviets. Fortunately, several NK-33 engines were hidden in a warehouse by their designer, Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kuznetsov. That happened in the 70s. Fast forward to the 90s, when somewhat improved relations between East and West, and presumably some money, helped the old relics emerge from storage, where they proved to be still cutting edge tech despite being two decades old. If [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33 Wikipedia is to be believed]], the NK-33 achieves the highest thrust-to-mass ratio among all currently existing rocket engines, and it, or variations thereof, are now used by satellite launch companies like Orbital Sciences Corporation and several future space projects plan to employ them as well.

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* A real-life example of "abandoned Soviet experiment" is the NK-33 closed circuit rocket engine. Originally intended for use in the attempt to get a man on the Moon, the prototypes were supposed to be destroyed once that project was cancelled. Sore losers the Soviets. Fortunately, several NK-33 engines were hidden in a warehouse by their designer, Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kuznetsov. That happened in the 70s. Fast forward to the 90s, when somewhat improved relations between East and West, and presumably some money, helped the old relics emerge from storage, where they proved to be still cutting edge tech despite being two decades old. If [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33 Wikipedia is to be believed]], the NK-33 achieves the highest thrust-to-mass ratio among all currently existing rocket engines, engines.
** The stored NK-33 were refitted by Aerojet by getting rid of the old stock Soviet electronics, adapting the engines to US circuitry
and it, or variations thereof, are now modifying the steering systems. The result is called the AJ-26, and was used by satellite launch companies like Orbital Sciences Corporation in their Antares rocket. Emphasis on the past tense: in the great Soviet tradition AJ-26s soon began blowing up on test stands, and several future space projects plan when one exploded in actual use - taking with it an Antares and a load of supplies for the International Space Station - Orbital Sciences had a change of mind and decided to employ them as well.leave this particular bit of Soviet Superscience to the history books.
9th Jan '16 2:09:15 PM MarkLungo
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** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".

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** Before [[RedOctober [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".
9th Jan '16 2:08:55 PM MarkLungo
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StupidJetpackHitler is a SisterTrope, giving ThoseWackyNazis things like PoweredArmor and {{Cool Airship}}s, while {{Ghostapo}} could be a "cousin trope", in that it's a more mystical version of StupidJetpackHitler. All of these are culture-specific [[{{subtrope}} sub-disciplines]] of MadScience. See also ClosedCities, which is where Soviet Superscience is created; they range from ordinary cities declared off-limits to foreigners to full-fledged [[VideoGame/HalfLife Black Mesa]] style complexes hidden in the lost mountains of Siberia.

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StupidJetpackHitler is a SisterTrope, giving ThoseWackyNazis things like PoweredArmor and {{Cool Airship}}s, while {{Ghostapo}} could be a "cousin trope", in that it's a more mystical version of StupidJetpackHitler. All of these are culture-specific [[{{subtrope}} sub-disciplines]] of MadScience. See also ClosedCities, UsefulNotes/ClosedCities, which is where Soviet Superscience is created; they range from ordinary cities declared off-limits to foreigners to full-fledged [[VideoGame/HalfLife Black Mesa]] style complexes hidden in the lost mountains of Siberia.



31st Dec '15 12:12:25 PM SSJMagus
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** The [[http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/automatic-fedorov-e.html Fedorov Avtomat]] is technically the first assault rifle, as they fire medium-powered 6.5mm Arisaka rounds.

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** The [[http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/automatic-fedorov-e.html Fedorov Avtomat]] is technically the first assault rifle, rifle (or something very close to it), as they fire medium-powered 6.5mm Arisaka rounds.



** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets".

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** Before [[RedOctober the Russian Revolution]] and his subsequent departure to the United States, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky Igor Sikorsky]] designed the first four-engine airliner "Russky Vityaz", and the first heavy bomber "Ilya Muromets". The latter resulted in one of Russia's current [[RealLife/CoolPlane Tu-160 "Blackjack"]] strategic bombers (all 35 of which are [[NamedWeapon individually named]] after famous Russians) being named "Igor Sikorsky".
29th Dec '15 1:45:04 AM Omeganian
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* It's not only ''military'' nuclear power. When the Soviets announced in 1969 that they maintained 10 million kelvin plasma in their T-3 [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak tokamak]] for 10 milliseconds, the western scientists [[http://www.iter.org/newsline/102/1401 were so skeptical (it was about ten times what anyone else managed) that they demanded their own team be allowed to check]].
26th Nov '15 10:09:55 PM DragonRanger
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** The UltimateMarvel series "Ultimate Nightmare" took place almost entirely in a complex dedicated to this.

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** The UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel series "Ultimate Nightmare" took place almost entirely in a complex dedicated to this.this. They worked by disassembling [[ComicBook/TheVision an alien robot]] found in TheTunguskaEvent, piece by piece, and grafting its parts to test subjects.
** Not Soviet ''super''science, but related: [[ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Cosmo the Spacedog]], who got lost in space during a cosmonaut test flight. He got PsychicPowers while in space, but we don't know how it happened and it's likely not to involve the Soviets at all.



* ''Film/IronMan2'': Anton Vanko, a Soviet defector, co-developed the arc reactor technology with Tony's father in the 1960s.

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* ''Film/IronMan2'': Anton Vanko, a Soviet defector, co-developed the arc reactor technology with Tony's father in the 1960s. Otherwise generally averted in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, as projects that were examples of this in the comics are either Soviet ''or'' superscience, but not both: the Black Widow program was simply TrainingFromHell, while the Winter Soldier was a [[spoiler:HYDRA]] project as opposed to Russian.



* Recently, played straight in the ''{{Series/Fringe}}'' episode "Earthling".
*** Well, not exactly. Walter does mentions the Russians were up to their own Fringe Science during TheColdWar, but the MonsterOfTheWeek in the episode was NOT their creation, but rather something that infected and bonded with one of their cosmonauts.

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* Recently, played Played straight in the ''{{Series/Fringe}}'' episode "Earthling".
*** ** Well, not exactly. Walter does mentions the Russians were up to their own Fringe Science during TheColdWar, but the MonsterOfTheWeek in the episode was NOT their creation, but rather something that infected and bonded with one of their cosmonauts.
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