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3rd May '16 8:00:36 PM MAI742
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* One of the major reasons for UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar claiming so many lives was that the technology to kill people had advanced (rifles replacing old muskets being the most common example), while tactics (such as bayonet charges into the massed artillery and rifle fire) and medical techniques lagged behind.

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* One of the major reasons for UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar claiming so many lives was that the technology to kill people had advanced (rifles replacing old muskets being ''massive'' dilution of talent caused by the most common example), while tactics (such as bayonet charges fielding of such incredibly large armies relative to the pre-war pool of trained and experienced officers (just a couple of percent of the total!). The professional officer corps was well aware of how to make the best use of the available weapons and equipment, but the bulk of the men on both sides were commanded by bureaucrats, lawyers, and the like with little or no military experience or knowledge... initially. They learned, eventually - the hard way. Which is where this trope comes into the massed artillery and rifle fire) and medical techniques lagged behind.play.
3rd May '16 7:55:43 PM MAI742
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* Happens fairly often in military history when one side develops a new weapon. World War One probably has the most examples of any single conflict.
** It was around for literally thousands of years. The best way to counter the enemy "high tech" heavy cavalry until the mid 1500s? Just have them charge your spearmen. By WW1 they were just giant targets.

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* Happens fairly often in military history when one side develops a adopts new weapon.methods, mass-produces sufficiently advanced equipment and/or weaponry. World War One probably has the most examples of any single conflict.
** 1914: Machine Guns > Rifles
** 1914: Artillery > Machine Guns > Rifles
** 1915: Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > Machine Guns > Rifles
** 1915: Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
** 1916: Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > (Trench/Stokes) Mortars > Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
** 1916: Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > (Trench/Stokes) Mortars > Chars/Tanks > Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
** 1916: Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft-and-gas-shells > (Trench/Stokes) Mortars > Chars/Tanks > Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
** 1917: Heavy-Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > (Trench/Stokes) Mortars > Chars/Tanks > Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
** 1917: Heavy-Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > Artillery-with-observervation-aircraft > (Trench/Stokes) Mortars > Chars/Tanks > Machine Guns > 'Light' Machine Guns > Grenades & Pistols > Rifles
*** Things get a little simpler with Artillery techniques for the Franco-British forces:
**** 1914: accurate Direct Fire over open sights (high gunner losses)
**** 1915: inaccurate Indirect Fire at unseen targets (few enemy losses )
**** 1916: reasonably accurate Indirect Fire at unseen targets (some enemy losses)
**** 1917: heavy, inaccurate Indirect Fire at unseen targets (variable enemy losses) [[note]] The prolonged, heavy firing techniques utilised since the previous year had worn out the guns' barrels, making them increasingly inaccurate. Sufficient replacement barrels were not forthcoming until the following year [[/note]]
**** 1918: very heavy, accurate Indirect Fire at unseen targets (devastating enemy losses)
** It was around for literally thousands of years. The best way to counter the enemy "high tech" heavy cavalry until cavalry, the most expensive of all western European warriors, in the mid 1500s? Just have them charge your spearmen. Tercio pikeman, lad. By WW1 they the time of the Italian Wars of 1494–1559, horses were just giant targets.targets on western European battlefields. Of course, light cavalry (for more than just scouting purposes) hung around for ''much'' longer.
30th Apr '16 3:44:36 PM Kneekicker
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** ''Anime/DinosaurKing'' - Max/Ryuta's Thunder Bazooka and Lightning Assault/Lightning Spear cards no longer work as finishers and are soon dropped, replaced by Plasma Anchor and then Thunder Driver. Assault/Spear gets it particularly bad, used in conjunction with the season's elemental armor, and yet fails to defeat a dinosaur that lacks the season's newly-introduced armor.

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** * ''Anime/DinosaurKing'' - Max/Ryuta's Thunder Bazooka and Lightning Assault/Lightning Spear cards no longer work as finishers and are soon dropped, replaced by Plasma Anchor and then Thunder Driver. Assault/Spear gets it particularly bad, used in conjunction with the season's elemental armor, and yet fails to defeat a dinosaur that lacks the season's newly-introduced armor.
27th Apr '16 10:36:22 PM jormis29
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* Subverted in ''Crackerjack''. Jack Simpson's reluctant Lawn Bowls mentor Stan tells him to stop using his novelty "flipper" bowl (lifted from a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlyG5wnW7I0 different sport]]) because it's ineffective and undignified and sadly Simpson has potential despite his utter lack of respect for the game. Simpson phases it out as he improves his game. However, against every advice not to do so, he breaks it out again for the final play of the movie.

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* Subverted in ''Crackerjack''.''Film/{{Crackerjack}}''. Jack Simpson's reluctant Lawn Bowls mentor Stan tells him to stop using his novelty "flipper" bowl (lifted from a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlyG5wnW7I0 different sport]]) because it's ineffective and undignified and sadly Simpson has potential despite his utter lack of respect for the game. Simpson phases it out as he improves his game. However, against every advice not to do so, he breaks it out again for the final play of the movie.
18th Apr '16 3:23:51 AM Tropetastic1995
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** Goku's Kaioken technique is almost never seen used by him after the first season when he first transformed into a Super Saiyan; WordOfGod and a filler episode demonstrated that a combination of the two could have {{deadly|Upgrade}} consequences for the user.
** The Super Saiyan transformation itself goes from [[TheChosenOne legendary and exclusive]] to being shared by a handful of individuals at once with ascended stages beyond the standard grade. Most notable with Gohan's final upgrade in the series: once he attains that, he neither has to nor is even ''able'' to transform into a Super Saiyan anymore. Though he is [[ContinuitySnarl seen in Super Saiyan form]] in works set after ''Z''.

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** Goku's Kaioken technique is almost never seen used by him after the first season when he first transformed into a Super Saiyan; WordOfGod and a filler episode demonstrated that a combination of the two could have {{deadly|Upgrade}} consequences for the user.
user. [[spoiler: It gets subverted in the long run as Goku learns to combine the Kaio-Ken with his Super Saiyan Blue form and maintain it, although it's a work in progress and initially has a 90 percent failure rate.]]
** The Super Saiyan transformation itself goes from [[TheChosenOne legendary and exclusive]] to being shared by a handful of individuals at once with ascended stages beyond the standard grade. Most notable with Gohan's final upgrade in the series: once he attains that, he neither has to nor is even ''able'' to transform into a Super Saiyan anymore. Though he is [[ContinuitySnarl seen in Super Saiyan form]] form in works set after ''Z''.''Z'', due to not keeping up his training and needing the transformation to acces his full potential. Like the Kaio-Ken example above, Goku and Vegeta subvert it in the long run as, after ascending to Godhood, they perfect their Super Saiyan forms and no longer need Super Saiyan 2 or 3. The fact their Base form alone surpasses what Goku could do as a Super Saiyan 3 helps as well.
4th Apr '16 9:26:19 AM Tyrannosauruses
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** ''Anime/DinosaurKing'' - Max/Ryuta's Thunder Bazooka and Lightning Assault/Lightning Spear cards no longer work as finishers and are soon dropped, replaced by Plasma Anchor and then Thunder Driver. Assault/Spear gets it particularly bad, used in conjunction with the season's elemental armor, and yet fails to defeat a dinosaur that lacks the season's newly-introduced armor.
17th Mar '16 1:11:42 AM ShorinBJ
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* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' has shades of this. Notably, Bonnie tries her magic aneurysm -- which worked great against Damon, who was turned during the American Civil War -- against the 500-year-old Katherine, and gets a [[NoSell No Sale]].
25th Jan '16 8:47:00 PM Kadorhal
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** Weighted clothing. First appears near the end of ''Dragon Ball'' as an effective means of showing IAmNotLeftHanded, all but disappears by the Cell Saga. The idea of training in weighted clothing was replaced by training in artificial gravity chambers. Vegeta, for example, likes to train in ''500 times Earth's gravity'', which adds far more weight to him than any amount of clothing could. To quote the abridged series...
--->'''[[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Piccolo:]]''' That concept just sort of lost meaning after a while, didn't it?

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** Weighted clothing. First appears near the end of ''Dragon Ball'' as an effective means of showing IAmNotLeftHanded, all but disappears by the Cell Saga. The idea of training in weighted clothing was replaced by training in artificial gravity chambers. Vegeta, for example, likes to train in ''500 times Earth's gravity'', which adds far more weight to him than any amount of clothing could. To quote [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged the abridged series...
--->'''[[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Piccolo:]]'''
series]]:
--->'''Piccolo:'''
That concept just sort of lost meaning after a while, didn't it?



** The Super Saiyan transformation goes from [[TheChosenOne legendary and exclusive]] to being shared by a handful of individuals at once with ascended stages beyond the standard grade. Most notable with Gohan's final upgrade in the series. Once he attains that, he neither has to nor is even able to transform into a Super Saiyan ''at all'' anymore. Though he is [[ContinuitySnarl seen in Super Saiyan form]] in works set after ''Z''.
*** The page quote references how late in the series Vegeta's son Trunks was merely struggling a bit in the Gravity Room and just suddenly decided to go Super Saiyan to run around more easily, shocking his father. He then irritated Vegeta by admitting the younger Goten could also use the form.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' featured this frequently. For Ichigo, his bankai alone is practically useless after the arc where he first learns it and his Shikai is useless as soon as he learns Bankai.
** His SignatureMove, Getsuga Tensho, which Urahara says [[InformedAbility would have taken his arm off if he hadn't put up his shield]] and is used to completely blow away Byakuya's Shikai and makes a crater in the ground turns from a FinishingMove to a [[BeamSpam spam move]] after the Soul Society Arc, often needing two of them sandwiching the opponent just to mildly injure him. This is even after the fact Zangetsu stated [[CallingYourAttacks knowing the name of the move would strengthen it]].

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** The Super Saiyan transformation itself goes from [[TheChosenOne legendary and exclusive]] to being shared by a handful of individuals at once with ascended stages beyond the standard grade. Most notable with Gohan's final upgrade in the series. Once series: once he attains that, he neither has to nor is even able ''able'' to transform into a Super Saiyan ''at all'' anymore. Though he is [[ContinuitySnarl seen in Super Saiyan form]] in works set after ''Z''.
*** The page quote references how late in the series Vegeta's young son Trunks was merely struggling a bit in the Gravity Room with him, and just suddenly decided to go Super Saiyan to run around more easily, shocking his father. He then irritated Vegeta by admitting the younger Goten could also use the form.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' featured this frequently. For Ichigo, his bankai alone is practically useless after the arc where he first learns it and his Shikai is useless as soon as he learns Bankai.
Bankai, and said Bankai is practically useless on its own after the arc where he first learns it as well.
** His SignatureMove, Getsuga Tensho, which Urahara says [[InformedAbility would have taken his arm off if he hadn't put up his shield]] and is used to completely blow away Byakuya's Shikai and makes a crater in the ground turns from a FinishingMove to a [[BeamSpam spam move]] after the Soul Society Arc, often needing two of them sandwiching the opponent just to mildly injure him. This is even after the fact Zangetsu stated [[CallingYourAttacks knowing the name of the move move]] would strengthen it]].it.



** However, unlike most protagonists subjected to this trope, Ichigo doesn't learn newer, more powerful moves to replace the Getsuga Tensho, or even (except in [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique one special case]]) learn improved versions of it. He simply gets stronger and makes it effective again...until the next, even more powerful villain shows up, which results in the cycle repeating. One thing he does (way too infrequently) to improve its effectiveness is, instead of [[SwordBeam firing the Getsuga right away]] is leave it surrounding his blade and slice his opponent, then fire off the attack while his sword is already inside their body. This guarantees a hit and bypasses their defenses...but it's still the same attack.
** in the last arc he FINALLY learns a new technique...which is just two of them at once

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** However, unlike most protagonists subjected to this trope, Ichigo doesn't learn newer, more powerful moves to replace the Getsuga Tensho, or even (except in [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique one special case]]) learn improved versions of it. He simply gets stronger and makes it effective again... until the next, even more powerful villain shows up, which results in the cycle repeating. One thing he does (way too infrequently) to improve its effectiveness is, instead of [[SwordBeam firing the Getsuga right away]] is leave it surrounding his blade and slice his opponent, then fire off the attack while his sword is already inside their body. This guarantees a hit and bypasses their defenses... but it's still the same attack.
** in In the last arc he FINALLY ''finally'' learns a new technique...technique... which is just simply two of them at onceonce.



*** Averted in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'' with the Freedom Gundam (the protagonist's 2nd unit from the prequel), which is still many times more powerful than the newer mobile suits created between shows because its special nuclear powered engine was declared illegal, and newer ones were built without it. It is eventually destroyed, but only due to ZAFT going all out and sending an entire fleet to destroy it.

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*** Averted in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'' with the Freedom Gundam (the protagonist's 2nd unit from the prequel), original ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]''), which is still many times more powerful than the newer mobile suits created between shows because its special nuclear powered engine was declared illegal, and newer ones were built without it. It is eventually destroyed, but only due to ZAFT going all out and sending an entire fleet to destroy it.
24th Jan '16 8:40:59 AM flamemario12
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** And Starly's example is taken UpToEleven with Fletchling in X and Y. While it seems mediocre with its typing offering plenty of weaknesses, unimpressive stats apart from speed, and being a ComMon, its special ability "Gale Wings" gives its flying moves a priority status, turning him into a terrifying GlassCannon who can spam hard-hitting attacks faster than most opponents can respond. When Fletchling was revealed, few were expecting it to eventually be considered the best revenge killer in the series.
1st Jan '16 5:16:37 AM cybertoy0
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** Logia Devil Fruit powers, following the TimeSkip, has become this. In the first half of the series and Grand Line, being a Logia meant being MadeOfAir, as the power-user could turn their body into that element and let attacks pass through their body, the exception being Blackbeard's gravity-based Dark-Dark Fruit. The only way to fight a Logia without using ElementalRockPaperScissors was to use Haki, something that wasn't well-known at the time in-universe and out. In the Grand Line's second half, the New World, Haki-usage is widespread, so, to quote another Haki-user…
-->"Logia's convinced of their invincibility have short lives."



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