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8th Aug '17 5:32:48 AM ryg
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* In ''[[Literature/NemesisSeries Dreadnought]]'', the protagonist Danny is shot with a SMG by a liquor store robber she caught red-handed. Her only response is "Dude! Not Cool!".
7th Aug '17 12:13:33 AM KobyFish
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'': The humans repeatedly try to use conventional weapons (bullets) against the Decepticons, to no avail. The shots just bounce right off, every time.
** In the two-part season 2 episode "The Key To Vector Sigma", the Centurion Droids are completely unfazed by any attacks at all. The Decepticons keep shooting at them despite the blasts having no effect whatsoever. Megatron eventually manages to gain control of them using the Key, and the Autobots manage to trick them into diving off a high cliff after some reanimated zombie-bot corpses, but since they are programmed to guard Vector Sigma it's probable that it would take extraordinary means to destroy them.
2nd Aug '17 1:05:57 PM marcoasalazarm
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One often has to wonder how much money repeat offenders of this Trope waste on ammunition. Sometimes it's explained as desperation, but most times, they really should know better and just accept the fact that their foe is (sigh) ImmuneToBullets. It makes a touch more sense with characters who have protective devices like Franchise/WonderWoman's bracelets or ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's shield. At least with those characters, the {{Mooks}} can realistically think they have a chance at hurting them if only they could get that [[MillionToOneChance lucky shot]], which never happens.

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One often has to wonder how much money repeat offenders of this Trope waste on ammunition. Sometimes it's explained as desperation, but most times, they really should know better and just accept the fact that their foe is (sigh) ImmuneToBullets. It makes a touch more sense with characters who have protective devices like Franchise/WonderWoman's bracelets or ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's shield. At least with those characters, the {{Mooks}} can realistically think they have a chance at hurting them if only they could get that [[MillionToOneChance lucky shot]], which never happens.
happens. Many mooks also decide to do this because they believe [[DefiantToTheEnd showing defiance]] is better than the ([[YouHaveFailedMe occasionally fatal, often MUCH more painful]]) alternative of disappointing [[TheMobBossIsScarier their boss]] by giving up.
2nd Aug '17 12:55:18 PM Arpaleggia
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** [[SeltzerAndFriedberg Epic Movie]] [[{{Parody}} parodies]] the above instance of this trope by recreating the later part of the scene; [[spoiler: character Peter Pervertsky imagines himself as Superman, except this time the bullet goes straight through his eye, complete with a [[{{Squick}} delicious sound effect]].]]
13th Jul '17 2:44:21 PM 0Hatter0
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* In ''Literature/FineStructure'', the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin appropriately named]] "FightScene" chapter has FlyingBrick Arika take on a squad of FlyingBrick {{Super Soldier}}s and endure all manor of hurt at the command of their leader. After she survives a ''cruise missile'', she hovers over him and he empties his clip at the hero in what is explicitly a mere show of defiance.

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* In ''Literature/FineStructure'', the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin appropriately named]] "FightScene" chapter has FlyingBrick Arika take on a squad of FlyingBrick {{Super Soldier}}s and endure all manor manner of hurt at the command of their leader. After she survives a ''cruise missile'', she hovers over him and he empties his clip at the hero in what is explicitly a mere show of defiance.
10th Jul '17 7:47:17 AM Sharlee
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*** And, more practically, every fraction of a second that an Agent spends dodging a hero's bullets is another fraction of a second when said Agent is ''not'' killing the hero.
3rd Jul '17 10:31:41 PM merotoker
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* Happens constantly in "Manga/Cyborg009" by both regular criminals and [[NebulousEvilOrganisation Black]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Ghost]]. Even though Black Ghost should know better, having built the cyborgs.

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\n* Happens constantly in "Manga/Cyborg009" ''Manga/Cyborg009'' by both regular criminals and [[NebulousEvilOrganisation Black]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Ghost]]. Even though Black Ghost should know better, having built the cyborgs.



* ''Comicbook/IncredibleHulk'': The Hulk's adversary [[GeneralRipper General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross]] considers this standard operating procedure. Every time he finds Dr. Banner, he orders his battalion to open fire on his [[UnstoppableRage raging]] [[NighInvulnerability indestructible]] foe, conveniently forgetting the previous ''hundred'' or so times where this only served to piss him off. He made a grand return in ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'' and proceeded to... shoot the Hulk. [[ImmuneToBullets It doesn't really work]], even with ''adamantium'' bullets.

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The Hulk's adversary [[GeneralRipper General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross]] considers this standard operating procedure. Every time he finds Dr. Banner, he orders his battalion to open fire on his [[UnstoppableRage raging]] [[NighInvulnerability indestructible]] foe, conveniently forgetting the previous ''hundred'' or so times where this only served to piss him off. He made a grand return in ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'' and proceeded to... shoot the Hulk. [[ImmuneToBullets It doesn't really work]], even with ''adamantium'' bullets.bullets.
** There is one story where a policeman shoots at him - Banner is in control of Hulk at the time and he hasn't done anything, but the policeman panicked - and Hulk disarms him and berates him because bullets bounce off him and there are lots of people around - the ricochets can easily kill them. Besides, if he has been his old self, bullets would have done nothing, as noted above.



* In one scene in ''ComicBook/RisingStars'', Pyre (who has power similar to the [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Human Torch]]) is getting shot at, which, of course, doesn't affect him. He says the following: "Y'know, I remember watching [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the old Superman TV series]] with George Reeves, and the bad guys would always shoot at Superman, when he showed up. I used to ask myself, why? They know it's not going to hurt him, at most, it'll piss him off, so why shoot at him? You know what it comes down to? The bad guys are always stupid. Dirt-stick-stone stupid." Unfortunately, right after that [[spoiler: a device is used on him that defuses his powers, and he's shot to death.]]

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* In one scene in ''ComicBook/RisingStars'', Pyre (who has power similar to the [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Human Torch]]) is getting shot at, which, of course, doesn't affect him. He says the following: "Y'know, I remember watching [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the old Superman TV series]] with George Reeves, and the bad guys would always shoot at Superman, when he showed up. I used to ask myself, why? They know it's not going to hurt him, at most, it'll piss him off, so why shoot at him? You know what it comes down to? The bad guys are always stupid. Dirt-stick-stone stupid." Unfortunately, right after that [[spoiler: a device is used on him that defuses his powers, and he's shot to death.]]death]].



* There is one ''Comicbook/IncredibleHulk'' story where a policeman shoots at him - Banner is in control of Hulk at the time and he hasn't done anything, but the policeman panicked - and Hulk disarms him and berates him because bullets bounce off him and there are lots of people around - the ricochets can easily kill them. Besides, if he has been his old self, bullets would have done nothing, as noted above.



* Averted in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''. Spectrem gets so angry at Paul for being an ActualPacifist in the middle of a war that he starts attacking him with different energy beams in an attempt to get Paul to take a swing at him, but stops when it becomes apparent that [[NighInvulnerable Paul isn't being harmed in the slightest]]. Later, when Paul and George have a messy little encounter with the diplomat Lee Ayson, Spectrem doesn't bother to even try to attack Paul, which irks Lee considerably.

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* Averted in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''. Spectrem gets so angry at Paul for being an ActualPacifist in the middle of a war that he starts attacking him with different energy beams in an attempt to get Paul to take a swing at him, but stops when it becomes apparent that [[NighInvulnerable [[NighInvulnerability Paul isn't being harmed in the slightest]]. Later, when Paul and George have a messy little encounter with the diplomat Lee Ayson, Spectrem doesn't bother to even try to attack Paul, which irks Lee considerably.



* In ''Film/SupermanReturns'', a criminal turns a freaking ''Gatling gun'' (and [[MoreDakka not just the usual 7.62mm minigun - this was a full-on 20mm M61]]!) on Superman. Even after he's emptied an entire belt of high-powered ammunition into the guy's chest without so much as scuffing the insignia, he still thinks it's a bright idea to move on to a regular pistol and [[GoForTheEye try to shoot for Superman's eyes]]. We're then treated to a BulletTime effect of the bullet actually ''bouncing off Superman's eyeball''. Golly. Superman takes a moment to flash a sardonic, "how dumb can you get?" smile at the thug just before giving him great quantities of what-for. ''Offscreen'', however.
** Admittedly, it was a valiant effort by the mook, at least trying for what would seemingly be an obvious weak spot. It's not exactly like Superman's exact abilities and limits are well documented and published in that universe, and remember, even the mighty Achilles had a heel.

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* In ''Film/SupermanReturns'', a criminal turns a freaking ''Gatling gun'' (and [[MoreDakka not just the usual 7.62mm minigun - this was a full-on 20mm M61]]!) on Superman. Even after he's emptied an entire belt of high-powered ammunition into the guy's chest without so much as scuffing the insignia, he still thinks it's a bright idea to move on to a regular pistol and [[GoForTheEye try to shoot for Superman's eyes]]. We're then treated to a BulletTime effect of the bullet actually ''bouncing off Superman's eyeball''. Golly. Superman takes a moment to flash a sardonic, "how dumb can you get?" smile at the thug just before giving him great quantities of what-for. ''Offscreen'', however.
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however. Admittedly, it was a valiant effort by the mook, at least trying for what would seemingly be an obvious weak spot. It's not exactly like Superman's exact abilities and limits are well documented and published in that universe, and remember, even the mighty Achilles had a heel.



* Generally speaking, there is no point in shooting at Franchise/{{Robocop}} with anything less than anti-tank weaponry. Of course this makes Robocop's eventual fall all the more shocking. In ''Film/RoboCop2'', Robocop does this when shooting at…Robocop II, as his replacement is even more heavily armored than he is. Noticing that doesn't work, even with big gun he's using, he at least shoots off his replacement's ShoulderCannon since it fired explosive bullets. Robocop II notices that the minigun it was using was useless in the fight so he resorted to using his hands.
** In Robocop 3, someone does have the bright idea that shooting Robocop in the mouth would work, since its the only part of him not covered in armor. However, by this point, Robocop is such an in-universe MemeticBadass that some people think that her EATS bullets, and when he confronts the thugs in question, he's got them so panicked by his approach that the thug with the gun can't shoot at the approaching cyborg, and ultimately drops his weapon. It probably helped that Robocop was ON FIRE at the time.

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* Taken all the way [[UpToEleven past eleven to somewhere around 35]] in ''Film/ManOfSteel''. Largely justified too. The military doesn't know about the Kryptonians' invulnerability at the start of the battle in Smallville; and they actually manage to knock out [[TheDragon Faora]] with an A-10 Thunderbolt missile. Colonel Hardy can be chalked up to determination. At the finale, their weapons' fire doesn't hurt Faora, but it does delay her long enough for their ''actual'' plan to work.
* Generally speaking, there is no point in shooting at Franchise/{{Robocop}} Franchise/RoboCop with anything less than anti-tank weaponry. Of course this makes Robocop's eventual fall all the more shocking. In ''Film/RoboCop2'', Robocop [=RoboCop=] does this when shooting at…Robocop II, as his replacement is even more heavily armored than he is. Noticing that doesn't work, even with big gun he's using, he at least shoots off his replacement's ShoulderCannon since it fired explosive bullets. Robocop II notices that the minigun it was using was useless in the fight so he resorted to using his hands.
** In Robocop 3, ''Film/RoboCop3'', someone does have the bright idea that shooting Robocop [=RoboCop=] in the mouth would work, since its the only part of him not covered in armor. However, by this point, Robocop [=RoboCop=] is such an in-universe MemeticBadass that some people think that her EATS bullets, and when he confronts the thugs in question, he's got them so panicked by his approach that the thug with the gun can't shoot at the approaching cyborg, and ultimately drops his weapon. It probably helped that Robocop was ON FIRE at the time.



* ''Film/{{Hancock}}'' is constantly being threatened with violence from people who know firsthand that he's a FlyingBrick. Even when he's in prison, inmates think they can beat him up with their bare hands. Although he gets weaker over the course of the film, none of these people actually know that.
** Given he is in prison they might have thought that he was BroughtDownToNormal. Although they really should have tested that theory before making threats.

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* ''Film/{{Hancock}}'' Film/{{Hancock}} is constantly being threatened with violence from people who know firsthand that he's a FlyingBrick. Even when he's in prison, inmates think they can beat him up with their bare hands. Although he gets weaker over the course of the film, none of these people actually know that. \n** Given he is in prison they might have thought that he was BroughtDownToNormal. Although they really should have tested that theory before making threats.



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*** The lead-up to that counts, too. [[spoiler:Stryker convinces the government to join with the Russians to take out the mutants on the beach. He should know for a fact that one of these mutants is a powerful telepath and the other controls metal. Both fleets just saw the latter ''lift a submarine out of the water''. There's no reason for them to believe their metal weapons would be any more effective. They're lucky Moira came in with that distraction. It's possible they thought the sheer volume of fire would prove too much for Erik. After all, it only takes one missile or projectile to get through to kill them all]].

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*** The lead-up to that counts, too. [[spoiler:Stryker convinces the government to join with the Russians to take out the mutants on the beach. He should know for a fact that one of these mutants is a powerful telepath and the other controls metal. Both fleets just saw the latter ''lift a submarine out of the water''. There's no reason for them to believe their metal weapons would be any more effective. They're lucky Moira came in with that distraction. It's possible they thought the sheer volume of fire would prove too much for Erik. After all, it only takes one missile or projectile to get through to kill them all]].all.]]



* Taken all the way [[UpToEleven past eleven to somewhere around 35]] in ''Film/ManOfSteel''. Largely justified too. The military doesn't know about the Kryptonians' invulnerability at the start of the battle in Smallville; and they actually manage to knock out [[TheDragon Faora]] with an A-10 Thunderbolt missile. Colonel Hardy can be chalked up to determination. At the finale, their weapons' fire doesn't hurt Faora, but it does delay her long enough for their ''actual'' plan to work.



* ''Film/{{TransformersFilmSeries}}'': the first Transformer appears at a military base. When it transforms from the helicopter disguise, every single soldier onscreen -- and some offscreen -- just starts ''unloading'' on him. To, of course, no effect.

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* ''Film/{{TransformersFilmSeries}}'': ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'': the first Transformer appears at a military base. When it transforms from the helicopter disguise, every single soldier onscreen -- and some offscreen -- just starts ''unloading'' on him. To, of course, no effect.



* As mentioned in the Trope description, this initially came from the old live-action ''{{Franchise/Superman}}'' movie serials and [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the George Reeves TV series]]. Superman would confront a crook, the crook would shoot at Superman, who stood there with his fists on his hips while the bullets bounced off his invulnerable skin. Then the crook would ''throw'' the now-empty gun at Superman, who would ''duck'' or ''dodge'' it. Of course, the real reason for this was that the "ricochet" effects were drawn onto the celluloid film stock after the fact, and the actors playing Superman ''had'' to duck so as not to get cracked in the head with a prop gun. Still, it does look quite silly… Later seasons, someone must have noticed and came up with having the mooks throw rubber or foam-shaped guns at Reeves so that they'd bounce off his padded chest. A PlayedWith version occurs in "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfSupermanS1E19TheEvilThree The Evil Three]]"; one of the villains tries to kill Superman with his sword, but he's unaware Superman is invulnerable.
* In ''Film/PrinceOfSpace'', the villainous aliens constantly attack the eponymous hero with their laser weapons, despite his constant insistence (''and'' demonstrations) that these weapons cannot harm him. His immunity is an invention of the American dub only. This is the result of a DubInducedPlothole. In the original JapaneseLanguage cut he was just really good at evading gunfire.

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* As mentioned in the Trope description, this initially came from the old live-action ''{{Franchise/Superman}}'' movie serials and [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the George Reeves TV series]]. Superman would confront a crook, the crook would shoot at Superman, who stood there with his fists on his hips while the bullets bounced off his invulnerable skin. Then the crook would ''throw'' the now-empty gun at Superman, who would ''duck'' or ''dodge'' it. Of course, the real reason for this was that the "ricochet" effects were drawn onto the celluloid film stock after the fact, and the actors playing Superman ''had'' to duck so as not to get cracked in the head with a prop gun. Still, it does look quite silly… Later seasons, someone must have noticed and came up with having the mooks throw rubber or foam-shaped guns at Reeves so that they'd bounce off his padded chest. A PlayedWith [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] version occurs in "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfSupermanS1E19TheEvilThree The Evil Three]]"; one of the villains tries to kill Superman with his sword, but he's unaware Superman is invulnerable.
* In ''Film/PrinceOfSpace'', the villainous aliens constantly attack the eponymous hero with their laser weapons, despite his constant insistence (''and'' demonstrations) that these weapons cannot harm him. His immunity is an invention of the American dub only. This is the result of a DubInducedPlothole. In the original JapaneseLanguage UsefulNotes/JapaneseLanguage cut he was just really good at evading gunfire.



* Appropriately enough, lampshaded in ''Series/LoisAndClark''. When a secret agent pulls a gun on Superman, he just smiles sympathetically and says, "Let me guess, you're new in town." In another episode, Lex Luthor's ex-wife points a gun at Superman and he says he thought she was smarter than that. [[SubvertedTrope It turns out she's smart enough to use a bullet made of Kryptonite]] [[GenreBlind but not enough to make sure nobody would remove the bullet before its radiation kills Superman]].

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* Appropriately enough, lampshaded in ''Series/LoisAndClark''. When a secret agent pulls a gun on Superman, he just smiles sympathetically and says, "Let me guess, you're new in town." In another episode, Lex Luthor's ex-wife points a gun at Superman and he says he thought she was smarter than that. [[SubvertedTrope It turns out she's smart enough to use a bullet made of Kryptonite]] [[GenreBlind [[GenreBlindness but not enough to make sure nobody would remove the bullet before its radiation kills Superman]].



* While more technology than invulnerability, when going up against one of the Goa'uld in ''Series/StargateSG1'', the team unloads rounds of gun fire towards him, only to be deflected by the shield. Jack O'Neill then throws a blade (not the gun he was just firing, that would have probably fallen far short), which penetrates the shield.

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* While more technology than invulnerability, when going up against one of the Goa'uld in ''Series/StargateSG1'', the team unloads rounds of gun fire gunfire towards him, only to be deflected by the shield. Jack O'Neill then throws a blade (not the gun he was just firing, that would have probably fallen far short), which penetrates the shield.



* Before enemies diversify their tactics later in ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'', it's perfectly possible to win fights by standing still and deflecting enemies lasers back at them with Starkiller's lightsaber. The various {{Mook}}s you face will continue to fire, God bless their soul, even after all their allies have been downed by deflected laser beams.

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* Before enemies diversify their tactics later in ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'', it's perfectly possible to win fights by standing still and deflecting enemies lasers back at them with Starkiller's lightsaber. The various {{Mook}}s {{Mooks}} you face will continue to fire, God bless their soul, even after all their allies have been downed by deflected laser beams.



* In Episode 11 of ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'', the {{BigBad}}'s identity is revealed when an attack from Kirito demonstrates that he's flagged as [[NoSell an Immortal Object]]. After this reveal, one of the players tries to attack him. The BigBad takes this as a cue to launch into a rant about being SurroundedByIdiots.

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* In Episode 11 of ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'', the {{BigBad}}'s BigBad's identity is revealed when an attack from Kirito demonstrates that he's flagged as [[NoSell an Immortal Object]]. After this reveal, one of the players tries to attack him. The BigBad takes this as a cue to launch into a rant about being SurroundedByIdiots.
SurroundedByIdiots.



* Standard operating procedure in the American Civil War when faced with an ironclad was to either gather many, many other ships to shoot it with, or get another ironclad and settle down into an hours-long duel. Thick armor of the time was effectively impenetrable, but the wood that supported it (usually oak) could only withstand so many blows before it broke. The classic example is the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Tennessee_%281863%29 CSS Tennessee,]] which, after having her exposed steering chains shot away, was surrounded by the Union fleet and pounded on until the supports for her 6" thick iron armor started to break, forcing surrender.

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* Standard operating procedure in the American Civil War UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar when faced with an ironclad was to either gather many, many other ships to shoot it with, or get another ironclad and settle down into an hours-long duel. Thick armor of the time was effectively impenetrable, but the wood that supported it (usually oak) could only withstand so many blows before it broke. The classic example is the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Tennessee_%281863%29 CSS Tennessee,]] which, after having her exposed steering chains shot away, was surrounded by the Union fleet and pounded on until the supports for her 6" thick iron armor started to break, forcing surrender.
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* ''Film/{{TransformersFilmSeries}}'': the first Transformer appears at a military base. When it transforms from the helicopter disguise, every single soldier onscreen -- and some offscreen -- just starts ''unloading'' on him. To, of course, no effect.
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* Taken UpToEleven in ''Game/XmenOrigins'', where in both cutscenes and gameplay, squads upon squads of soldiers fire on Wolverine, but he has a healing factor and indestructible skeleton. [[LudicrousGibs They don't]].
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Sometimes it's explained as desperation, but most times, they really should know better and just accept the fact that their foe is (sigh) ImmuneToBullets. It makes a touch more sense with characters who have protective devices like Franchise/WonderWoman's bracelets or ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's shield. At least with those characters, the {{Mooks}} can realistically think they have a chance at hurting them if only they could get that [[MillionToOneChance lucky shot]], which never happens.

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One often has to wonder how much money repeat offenders of this Trope waste on ammunition. Sometimes it's explained as desperation, but most times, they really should know better and just accept the fact that their foe is (sigh) ImmuneToBullets. It makes a touch more sense with characters who have protective devices like Franchise/WonderWoman's bracelets or ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's shield. At least with those characters, the {{Mooks}} can realistically think they have a chance at hurting them if only they could get that [[MillionToOneChance lucky shot]], which never happens.
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