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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', [[spoiler: The mysterious Great Imu is revealed as the true ruler of the World Government, someone that the Five Elders (thought to be the actual rules) bow to. Their existence is a complete secret to everyone but a few people, and it's believed that if knowledge of them got out, the world would descend into war & chaos.]]
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* In ''Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz'', few of his own people had ever seen the wizard, and those who claimed to have seen him disagreed as to who or what they'd seen. [[spoiler:He turns out to be his own ManBehindTheMan, using special effects to create an illusionary appearance.]]

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* In ''Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz'', few of his own people had ever seen the wizard, and those who claimed to have seen him disagreed as to who or what they'd seen. [[spoiler:He turns out to be his own ManBehindTheMan, TheManBehindTheCurtain, using special effects to create an illusionary appearance.]]
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* ''Series/ThePrisoner''. Who is Number One? [[spoiler: You are, Number Six.]]

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* ''Series/ThePrisoner''.''Series/ThePrisoner1967''. Who is Number One? [[spoiler: You are, Number Six.]]
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* ''LightNovel/UndefeatedBahamutChronicle'' has the King of Vices, who runs the Republic of Heiburg as military dictatorship and directs a cabal of assassins from the shadows, but no one knows their true identity. Many citizens suspect the King is the country's ObviouslyEvil champion, Rosa Granhide, [[spoiler:but it turns out that the real King is actually Rosa's aide and that Rosa herself is just a brainwashed decoy]].
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* ''TabletopGame/HcSvntDracones'' has {{Mega Corp}}s with "Shadow Presidents" whose identities are unknown to everyone but themselves and their immediate successors and predecessors, but who pass on the access codes to networks of agents threaded throughout their MegaCorp so they can keep ambitious executives and subsidiaries in line. [[spoiler: In recent history four of the ten shadow presidents in the solar system have died without designating a successor. Two of whom were usurped by entities that pried the passwords from their brains.]]
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* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics... or anything else.

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* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. A member of the Inner Party explains the reason for this, describing how people are more empathetic towards a person than towards a faceless system. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics... or anything else.
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* In GratuitousSpaceBattles, the leader of the Empire has apparently become this, at least officially:

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* In GratuitousSpaceBattles, ''VideoGame/GratuitousSpaceBattles'', the leader of the Empire has apparently become this, at least officially:



* ''Videogame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': No one in TheEmpire has actually ''seen'' the Emperor, not even the Darths on the Dark Council. He does have a network of "voices" and "hands" - avatars who have sacrificed their very existences to providing him a public face. That doesn't stop the Empire from their fanatic loyalty. Too bad it's completely misplaced as he's an omnicidal nut who doesn't give a damn about his empire ''or'' anything but wiping out everything in the universe but himself.

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* ''Videogame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': No one in TheEmpire has actually ''seen'' the Emperor, not even the Darths on the Dark Council. He does have a network of "voices" and "hands" - avatars who have sacrificed their very existences to providing him a public face. That doesn't stop the Empire from their fanatic loyalty. Too bad it's completely misplaced as he's an omnicidal nut who doesn't give a damn about his empire ''or'' anything but wiping out everything in the universe but himself.
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* Spoofed in ''How To Be A Villain'' by Neil Zawacki, when the author suggests that not actually existing might be a possible strategy for a BigBadWannabe. Everyone's afraid of you, but as no-one knows where you are they can't kill you either.
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* Discussed in ''Literature/BattleRoyale''. As Shuya, Noriko, and Kawada discuss the nature of the totalitarian Greater East Asian government, Kawada suggests that the head of the government, known as the Leader to the public, may just be a figurehead, with the true power lying elsewhere. However, there's no indication given of whether or not this is true.
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* In ''Manga/{{Arachnid}}'', it turns out that [[spoiler:Alice's newly-found [[BigBadFriend best friend Yoriko Tajima]] not only the immortal, telepathic Boss of the Organization, but she has also been using her powers to rule Japan from the shadows since World War II.]]

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* In ''Manga/{{Arachnid}}'', it turns out Alice eventually discovers that [[spoiler:Alice's newly-found [[spoiler:her new-found [[BigBadFriend best friend Yoriko Tajima]] is not only the immortal, telepathic Boss of [[TheSyndicate the Organization, Organization]], but that she has also been using her powers to rule Japan from the shadows since World War II.]]

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', it is revealed that [[spoiler:the society within the walls is ruled by one. The Fritz royal family were actually puppets, and the true royal family is House Reiss, led by King Rod Reiss, Krista's (AKA Historia Reiss) biological father]].

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* In ''Manga/{{Arachnid}}'', it turns out that [[spoiler:Alice's newly-found [[BigBadFriend best friend Yoriko Tajima]] not only the immortal, telepathic Boss of the Organization, but she has also been using her powers to rule Japan from the shadows since World War II.]]
* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', it is revealed that [[spoiler:the society within the walls is ruled by one. The Fritz royal family were actually puppets, [[PuppetKing puppets]], and the true royal family is House Reiss, led by King Rod Reiss, Krista's (AKA Historia Reiss) biological father]].
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* The Principal in the ''SchoolRumble'' manga.

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* The Principal in the ''SchoolRumble'' ''Manga/SchoolRumble'' manga.
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* Malkariss in the ''{{Redwall}}'' series only communicates by speaking to TheDragon Nadaz through his statue, refusing to let anyone see him directly. [[spoiler:When we find out what he actually looks like, he turns out to be weak and crippled, making him TheManBehindTheCurtain.]]

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* Malkariss in the ''{{Redwall}}'' ''{{Literature/Redwall}}'' series only communicates by speaking to TheDragon Nadaz through his statue, refusing to let anyone see him directly. [[spoiler:When we find out what he actually looks like, he turns out to be weak and crippled, making him TheManBehindTheCurtain.]]
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* For years many people suspected that OsamaBinLaden was already dead and his terrorist organization was controlled by others. This was proven wrong in 2011 when US troops stormed his compound in Pakistan and killed him.

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* For years many people suspected that OsamaBinLaden UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was already dead and his terrorist organization was controlled by others. This was proven wrong in 2011 when US troops stormed his compound in Pakistan and killed him.
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* Despot in ''TheNamelessMod'' is never seen, doesn't use an avatar when he [=PMs=] people and leaves everything to his second in command Ghand, but as he is a CloudCuckooLander things fall to the de facto second in command, King Kashue.

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* Despot in ''TheNamelessMod'' ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' is never seen, doesn't use an avatar when he [=PMs=] people and leaves everything to his second in command Ghand, but as he is a CloudCuckooLander things fall to the de facto second in command, King Kashue.

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* ''Videogame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': No one in TheEmpire has actually ''seen'' the Emperor, not even the Darths on the Dark Council. He does have a network of "voices" and "hands" - avatars who have sacrificed their very existences to providing him a public face. That doesn't stop the Empire from their fanatic loyalty. Too bad it's completely misplaced as he's an omnicidal nut who doesn't give a damn about his empire ''or'' anything but wiping out everything in the universe but himself.\\
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At the end of the Jedi Knight class quest, [[spoiler: the Knight confronts and "kills" the Emperor himself. The Emperor persists as a Force ghost, as powerful Sith are wont to do.]] Then, in ''Shadow of Revan'', [[spoiler: Revan himself plans to reincarnate the Emperor and kill him properly this time -- except that, while he's successful at the first part, the second is beyond his abilities. The Emperor had deluded Revan into believing he could kill him; what if anything actually ''can'' has yet to be seen.]] The upshot of this is, [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the Dark Council is in charge]] [[RegentForLife for all practical purposes]]. The ''Knights of the Fallen Empire'' expansion reveals why the Emperor hasn't been seen in centuries: [[spoiler:he was busy forming another empire under another identity that comes out of nowhere to conquer both the Sith Empire and the Galactic Republic.]]

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* ''Videogame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': No one in TheEmpire has actually ''seen'' the Emperor, not even the Darths on the Dark Council. He does have a network of "voices" and "hands" - avatars who have sacrificed their very existences to providing him a public face. That doesn't stop the Empire from their fanatic loyalty. Too bad it's completely misplaced as he's an omnicidal nut who doesn't give a damn about his empire ''or'' anything but wiping out everything in the universe but himself.\\
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himself.
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At the end of the Jedi Knight class quest, [[spoiler: the Knight confronts and "kills" the Emperor himself. The Emperor persists as a Force ghost, as powerful Sith are wont to do.]] Then, in ''Shadow of Revan'', [[spoiler: Revan himself plans to reincarnate the Emperor and kill him properly this time -- except that, while he's successful at the first part, the second is beyond his abilities. The Emperor had deluded Revan into believing he could kill him; what if anything actually ''can'' has yet to be seen.]] The upshot of this is, [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the Dark Council is in charge]] [[RegentForLife for all practical purposes]]. The ''Knights of the Fallen Empire'' expansion reveals why the Emperor hasn't been seen in centuries: [[spoiler:he was busy forming another empire under another identity that comes out of nowhere to conquer both the Sith Empire and the Galactic Republic.]]]]
** In the end, we never get to see his true face. BUT, in Knights Of The Eternal Throne, we do get to see his father, so we now have enough data to make a calculated guess.


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* ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}'': The overlord of TheEmpire, Kyros, is an enigma to almost everyone. Male characters tend to portray them as female, female characters tend to portray them as male (unless they're lesbians), and the ones who do know say ''not telling is funnier''. Whatever they are, they might be alien.
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May not exist at all, or could be dead. TheManBehindTheCurtain is also possible. Overlaps with NoOneSeesTheBoss, which deals with the overarching conspiracy surrounding our mystery person.

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May [[TheMan not exist at all, all]], or could be dead.DeadAllAlong, or [[EldritchAbomination not even human]] [[CosmicHorrorReveal to begin with]]. TheManBehindTheCurtain is also possible. Overlaps with NoOneSeesTheBoss, which deals with the overarching conspiracy surrounding our mystery person.
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* In ''Series/{{Star Trek Deep Space Nine}}'', the Dominion is ruled by the Changeling Founders, a race of shapeshifters. The Founders' contempt for "solids" means that they avoid interaction with non-Changelings, save for their Vorta and Jem'Hadar underlings. Most of them cloister themselves in the Great Link, with a small number serving as spies, infiltrators, or Dominion representatives.

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* In ''Series/{{Star Trek Deep Space Nine}}'', the Dominion is ruled by the Changeling Founders, a race of shapeshifters. The Founders' contempt for "solids" means that they avoid interaction with non-Changelings, save for their Vorta and Jem'Hadar underlings. Most of them cloister themselves in the Great Link, with a small number serving as spies, infiltrators, or Dominion representatives. It's apparent that several races that have been victimised by, or even ''belong to'' the Dominion believe that the Founders are just a myth (which carries the implication that for any who don't believe that the Vorta run the show, the identity of the Dominion's leaders is a mystery).
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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', it is revealed that [[spoiler:the society within the walls is ruled by one. The Fritz royal family were actually puppets, and the true royal family is House Reiss, led by King Rod Reiss, Krista's (AKA Historia Reiss) biological father]].
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* The Dark Powers from ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}''.

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* The Dark Powers from ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}''. Many Darklords also qualify, as some do not openly rule their domains, lurking in the shadows behind a stand-in, servant, or puppet. Some citizens don't even know they exist at all.
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* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics...or anything else.

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* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics... or anything else.
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* Embryo has traces of this. While the Mana users are left to do their own thing, [[spoiler:he's in control of what's giving them power, is the one who ''created'' this world, and can control them as he wish.]]

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* Embryo [[Anime/CrossAnge Embryo]] has traces of this. While the Mana users are left to do their own thing, thing for their FantasticRacism, [[spoiler:he's in control of what's giving them power, is the one who ''created'' this world, and can control them the people as he wish.]]
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* Embryo has traces of this. While the Mana users are left to do their own thing, [[spoiler:he's in control of what's giving them power, is the one who ''created'' this world, and can control them as he wish.]]
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* In ''Series/{{Star Trek Deep Space Nine}}'', the Dominion is rules by the Changeling Founders, a race of shapeshifters. The Founders' contempt for "solids" means that they avoid interaction with non-Changelings, save for their Vorta and Jem'Hadar underlings. Most of them cloister themselves in the Great Link, with a small number serving as spies, infiltrators, or Dominion representatives.

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* In ''Series/{{Star Trek Deep Space Nine}}'', the Dominion is rules ruled by the Changeling Founders, a race of shapeshifters. The Founders' contempt for "solids" means that they avoid interaction with non-Changelings, save for their Vorta and Jem'Hadar underlings. Most of them cloister themselves in the Great Link, with a small number serving as spies, infiltrators, or Dominion representatives.
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* Inspired by ''1984'', the Father from ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}''. Though we do see broadcasts featuring him, [[spoiler:They are faked, since the original Father died, and Du Pont was chosen to replace him]].

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* Inspired by ''1984'', the The Father from ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}''. ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', inspired by ''1984''. Though we do see broadcasts featuring him, [[spoiler:They [[spoiler:they are faked, since the original Father died, died and Du Pont [=DuPont=] was chosen to replace him]].
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* By the second season of ''Manga/DeathNote'', [[spoiler:most of the world's countries have declared their support for Kira, and the United States eventually backs down and obeys his orders. Japan doesn't, however.]]

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* By the second season of ''Manga/DeathNote'', [[spoiler:most of the world's countries have declared their support for Kira, and the United States eventually backs down and obeys his orders. Japan doesn't, however.]]]] Nobody actually knows what Kira looks like, only that he/she/it will kill anyone who commits a wrong. The cult who is building a temple to Kira assumes that Kira is [[GrandpaGod an old man with a beard]], though in actuality, Kira is a handsome young man who makes use of a few proxies.
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They rule the entire city/country/world/galaxy... but has anyone ever seen them?

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They rule the entire city/country/world/galaxy... [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen but has anyone ever seen them?
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* Inspired by ''1984'', the Father from ''{{Equilibrium}}''. Though we do see broadcasts featuring him, [[spoiler:They are faked, since the original Father died, and Du Pont was chosen to replace him]].

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* Inspired by ''1984'', the Father from ''{{Equilibrium}}''.''Film/{{Equilibrium}}''. Though we do see broadcasts featuring him, [[spoiler:They are faked, since the original Father died, and Du Pont was chosen to replace him]].



* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics. Or anything else.

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* In ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', Big Brother is never seen in person, yet [[BigBrotherIsWatchingYou his face is worshiped throughout Oceania]]. Given that one of the characters claims that Big Brother cannot die, it's pretty likely that he doesn't exist in the first place. The existence of the revolutionary leader Goldstein is similarly questionable, as is pretty much everything we're told about world politics. Or politics...or anything else.

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At the end of the Jedi Knight class quest, [[spoiler: the Knight confronts and "kills" the Emperor himself. The Emperor persists as a Force ghost, as powerful Sith are wont to do.]] Then, in ''Shadow of Revan'', [[spoiler: Revan himself plans to reincarnate the Emperor and kill him properly this time -- except that, while he's successful at the first part, the second is beyond his abilities. The Emperor had deluded Revan into believing he could kill him; what if anything actually ''can'' has yet to be seen.]] The upshot of this is, [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the Dark Council is in charge]] [[RegentForLife for all practical purposes]].

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At the end of the Jedi Knight class quest, [[spoiler: the Knight confronts and "kills" the Emperor himself. The Emperor persists as a Force ghost, as powerful Sith are wont to do.]] Then, in ''Shadow of Revan'', [[spoiler: Revan himself plans to reincarnate the Emperor and kill him properly this time -- except that, while he's successful at the first part, the second is beyond his abilities. The Emperor had deluded Revan into believing he could kill him; what if anything actually ''can'' has yet to be seen.]] The upshot of this is, [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the Dark Council is in charge]] [[RegentForLife for all practical purposes]]. The ''Knights of the Fallen Empire'' expansion reveals why the Emperor hasn't been seen in centuries: [[spoiler:he was busy forming another empire under another identity that comes out of nowhere to conquer both the Sith Empire and the Galactic Republic.]]

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