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8th Jun '17 4:31:37 PM OlmoJV
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* In ''Fanfic/HopeForTheHeartless'', [[BigBad Arawn]] is this to the [[VillainProtagonist Horned King]]. The former is the latter's [[EvilerThanThou more evil]] former master. Like the Horned King after him, Arawn was a [[TheDreaded feared]] warlord associated with death who sought [[ArtifactOfDoom the Black Cauldron]] in order to [[TakeOverTheWorld conquer the world]]. After his death, he has for centuries been [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned for life]] inside the Cauldron. Arawn is the monster the Horned King was before [[MoralityPet Avalina]] came to his life and what he would become if he fails his RedemptionQuest and remains [[AndIMustScream trapped in the Cauldron forever]]. Arawn's role in the story is to persuade his former apprentice to turn away from his positive CharacterDevelopment and return to his old ways so that he'd be sealed in the Cauldron for Arawn to torture forever.
31st May '17 11:22:01 PM TheUnknownUploader
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** The Riddler, in leaving clues instead of finding them, with a need to prove that brain beats brawn.

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** The Riddler, ComicBook/TheRiddler, in leaving clues instead of finding them, with a need to prove that brain beats brawn.



** Poison Ivy, seeking to be a guardian over a purified entity.

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** Poison Ivy, ComicBook/PoisonIvy, seeking to be a guardian over a purified entity.
31st May '17 10:38:12 AM WakefulPigeon
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* In ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'', Gaston and the Beast start out very similar to each other. Both are indifferent to the pain they cause to others, aren't afraid to use violence to get what they want and both want to use Belle for their own selfish reasons (the Beast to break his curse and Gaston to be his baby-factory/housekeeper/trophy-wife). Arguably the strongest similarity they have is how they see self-worth (as befitting the tale). For both men at the beginning, it's exterior, the Beast is cursed to look like a monster so he thinks he's a monster whereas Gaston wants Belle because "here in town, there's only she who is as beautiful as me". However, the Beast learns to see Belle as the kind, intelligent, courageous and independent woman she is, changes his behavior upon realizing that it's wrong and proves his own self-worth by letting her go be with her father, which helps break his curse. Gaston on the other hand refuses to change, still clinging to his opinions of self-worth.

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* In ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'', Gaston and the Beast start out very similar to each other. Both are indifferent to the pain they cause to others, aren't afraid to use violence to get what they want and both want to use Belle for their own selfish reasons (the Beast to break his curse and Gaston to be his baby-factory/housekeeper/trophy-wife). Arguably the strongest similarity they have is how they see self-worth (as befitting the tale). For both men at the beginning, it's exterior, the Beast is cursed to look like a monster so he thinks he's a monster whereas Gaston wants Belle because "here in town, there's only she who is as beautiful as me". However, the Beast learns to see Belle as the kind, intelligent, courageous and independent woman she is, changes his behavior upon realizing that it's wrong and proves his own self-worth by letting her go be with her father, which helps him earn her love to break his curse. Gaston Gaston, on the other hand hand, refuses to change, change as he still clinging clings to his opinions of self-worth.self-worth. Also, the Beast is proven to be more courageous, as he was willing to risk his life to protect Belle from danger, while Gaston is proven to be cowardly, as he has no qualms using cheap shots to get what he wants for himself.
28th May '17 10:49:58 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Roose Bolton to ''Tywin Lannister'' of all people. Both are the patriarchs of their families, both are StraightEdgeEvil and Magnificent Bastards who usually lock down their emotions and both have evil descendants (Ramsay for Roose, Joffrey for Tywin), both employ ''other'' psychopaths as their top enforcers (Locke and Gregor Clegane, respectively) but while Tywin is defined by his PragmaticVillainy and total devotion to his family's legacy, Roose every now and then lets slip that he just might be in it ForTheEvulz, although he's far more subtle about it than his son, and both betrayed their kings. It's also fun to point out that Michael [=McElhatton=] looks quite a bit like a younger Charles Dance. They also both die varyingly Undignified Deaths at the hands of their respective sons.
19th May '17 7:14:15 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' there is [[spoiler:Shadow of Vincent, which represents all of Vincent's repressed fears of commitment to marriage and women in general]]. If this sounds overly similar to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' examples, that's because both were created by Creator/{{Atlus}}.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' there is [[spoiler:Shadow of Vincent, which represents all of Vincent's repressed fears of commitment to marriage and women in general]]. If this sounds overly similar to ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' examples, Persona]]'', that's because both were created by Creator/{{Atlus}}.
19th May '17 7:12:42 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona''
** Characters meet their Shadows in both ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' games. There is much misery to be had as their doppelgangers air out character flaws to all in earshot, daring them to prove they have learned from or grown past these issues. [[spoiler:However these are all just avatars for the one single collective Shadow of all humanity]]. In ''Eternal Punishment'', neither Kei/[[DubNameChange Nate]] Nanjo nor Eriko/Ellen Kirishima meet their 'evil twins' in this way, but find corrupted people who they share common traits with - [[spoiler:[[CorruptCorporateExecutive Kandori Takahisa]] in Kei's case and [[KentBrockmanNews Chizuru Ishigami]] in Eriko's. Eriko also gets chewed out by a former classmate (actually another doppelganger) she has obsessed over locating]].
** Aigis and Metis in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}: FES''. Aigis is more reserved and introspective, while Metis is more impulsive and extroverted. [[spoiler:It turns out that Metis is, in fact, a product of the Abyss of Time, created when Aigis locked away her [[BecomeARealBoy human side]] after the Main Character's death in the original storyline]].
** Same goes in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' -- all the main characters, except the HeroicMime lead, encounter their inner Shadow Archetype at one point. These shadow archetypes [[ShownTheirWork follow the Jungian archetype]] and represent whatever the characters may have repressed. They will loudly exclaim these repressed feelings to the world, [[OneWingedAngel and do not take kindly to being denied]]. Accepting and embracing the flaws the shadow archetypes represent is how the party members obtain their persona, another call-out to Jung.
*** A non-shadow example of Shadow Archetype is [[spoiler:the real killer, Tohru Adachi]], who is a counterpart to both TheHero and [[spoiler:Yosuke Hanamura]]. On the latter's end, [[spoiler:they both suffer from SmallTownBoredom, Yosuke merely repressing it until his Shadow spills the beans, while Adachi deals with the boredom by using murder for entertainment]]. With regards to you, [[spoiler:both you and Adachi are both relatively recent arrivals who received their powers from the same goddess (Adachi's own persona is basically a palette swap of your starting persona), but only you use it for good. It's played up more in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Golden]]'', where your Social Link with him ("The Jester") is the reversed version of your own arcana ("TheFool"); you even both have a mutual fondness for magic tricks. But while you spend your time improving yourself and getting close to people, Adachi basically drifts through life and ignores opportunities which don't offer immediate gratification; basically, he's you if you didn't bother with the non-combat parts of the game]].
* Also from Atlus, in ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' there is [[spoiler:Shadow of Vincent, which represents all of Vincent's repressed fears of commitment to marriage and women in general, and is very similar to the Persona examples above, leading to the possibility of it having more ties to the Persona subseries than the other [=MegaTen=] games]].

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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona''
''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona'':
** Characters meet their Shadows in both ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' ''VideoGame/Persona2'' games. There is much misery to be had as their doppelgangers air out character flaws to all in earshot, daring them to prove they have learned from or grown past these issues. [[spoiler:However these are all just avatars for the one single collective Shadow of all humanity]]. In ''Eternal Punishment'', neither Kei/[[DubNameChange Nate]] Nanjo nor Eriko/Ellen Kirishima meet their 'evil twins' in this way, but find corrupted people who they share common traits with - [[spoiler:[[CorruptCorporateExecutive Kandori Takahisa]] in Kei's case and [[KentBrockmanNews Chizuru Ishigami]] in Eriko's. Eriko also gets chewed out by a former classmate (actually another doppelganger) she has doppelgangers of her stalker and the ''VideoGame/Persona1'' protagonist for being obsessed over locating]].
with tracking down the latter herself]].
** Aigis and Metis in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}: ''VideoGame/Persona3 FES''. Aigis is more reserved and introspective, while Metis is more impulsive and extroverted. [[spoiler:It turns out that Metis is, in fact, a product of the Abyss of Time, created when Aigis locked away her [[BecomeARealBoy human side]] after the Main Character's death in the original storyline]].
** Same goes in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' -- all ''VideoGame/Persona4'':
*** All
the main characters, except the HeroicMime lead, encounter their inner Shadow Archetype at one point. point, which are even referred to as "Shadows". These shadow archetypes Shadows [[ShownTheirWork follow the Jungian archetype]] and represent whatever the characters may have repressed. They will loudly exclaim these repressed feelings to the world, [[OneWingedAngel and do not take kindly to being denied]]. Accepting and embracing the flaws the shadow archetypes represent is how the party members obtain their persona, another call-out to Jung.
Jung.
*** A non-shadow more mundane example of Shadow Archetype the trope is [[spoiler:the real killer, Tohru Adachi]], who is a counterpart to both TheHero and [[spoiler:Yosuke Hanamura]]. On the latter's end, [[spoiler:they both suffer from SmallTownBoredom, Yosuke merely repressing it until his Shadow spills the beans, while Adachi deals with the boredom by using murder for entertainment]]. With regards to you, [[spoiler:both you and Adachi are both relatively recent arrivals who received their powers from the same goddess (Adachi's own persona is basically a palette swap of your starting persona), but only you use it for good. It's played up more in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Golden]]'', where your Social Link with him ("The Jester") is the reversed version of your own arcana ("TheFool"); you even both have a mutual fondness for magic tricks. But while you spend your time improving yourself and getting close to people, Adachi basically drifts through life and ignores opportunities which don't offer immediate gratification; basically, he's you if you didn't bother with the non-combat parts of the game]].
* Also from Atlus, in In ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' there is [[spoiler:Shadow of Vincent, which represents all of Vincent's repressed fears of commitment to marriage and women in general, and is very general]]. If this sounds overly similar to the Persona examples above, leading to the possibility of it having more ties to the Persona subseries than the other [=MegaTen=] games]].''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' examples, that's because both were created by Creator/{{Atlus}}.
13th May '17 8:39:26 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* In ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'', this is a recurring theme, with multiple characters having this trope.
** Lucius Malfoy, despite being played up as Fury's EvilCounterpart, is more accurately one for [[spoiler: Peter Wisdom a.k.a. Regulus Black]]. Both are brilliant and utterly ruthless Pureblood spymasters of good family, who grew up in lives of privilege and embraced Voldemort's ideals. Both ultimately disdained those ideals, forging their own paths, merging magical power with muggle organisation and know-how, dismissing the Ministry as incompetent and unfit for purpose, looking to reshape the world they grew up in. Both are fulfil every single criteria to be a MagnificentBastard and a ManipulativeBastard. Both are borderline sociopathic, with their only apparent genuine love being for their immediate family. And both seek power. The only apparent difference is that Lucius is entirely self-serving and [[TheSocialDarwinist a social darwinist]] who believes in the rule of the strong (he's just altered his definition of who qualifies), while [[spoiler: Wisdom/Regulus]] is completely devoted to his country, erupting with absolute fury when it's implied otherwise, and seeks to grab the Wizarding World by the scruff of the neck in order to co-opt supernatural/superhuman power to protect those without it.
** Steve Rogers has two: the Winter Soldier and Baron Zemo. The former Steve worries is essentially him when you take away everything human and leave behind only the SuperSoldier (the story hints that he's not far wrong, either), while the latter is a SuperSoldier explicitly described by WordOfGod as 'the Anti-Cap', being TheStrategist for HYDRA, a master combatant on the battlefield, and entirely loyal to the dream of HYDRA, while being more than willing to facilitate KlingonPromotion if a specific leader is deemed unsuitable, in contrast to Steve's strategic leadership on the battlefield and loyalty to America as an idea.
** Gravemoss qualifies as this to Loki: a master sorcerer, born different to everyone around him, and occasionally shunned because of it, who delved into darkness and madness, seeking the power he deemed his due, surrounding himself with those he could control... you could be discussing either of them. Of course, even in his madness, Loki [[EvenEvilHasStandards had his limits]] and did love people, as well as displaying VillainousValour and eventually turning back from the darkness. Gravemoss is a DirtyCoward who cares for no one but himself.
** Harry has one in Voldemort, as per canon, though with a few twists: both are half-bloods, who grew up in miserable circumstances, and whose fathers weren't quite as dead as was generally believed, who are especially influenced by their mothers even from beyond the grave, and cleave particularly strongly to that side of the family while very closely resembling their fathers, who have become incredibly powerful AmbiguouslyHuman beings that may not actually be able to die (with Harry, it's not down to some inherent quality so much as [[spoiler: the protection of the Phoenix]]), wielding vast PsychicPowers (though Voldemort's were stolen) and magic. Harry is also often stated as, if he gave into his dark side, being capable of being much like Magneto at his worst - which, in turn, is NotSoDifferent to Voldemort. However, the difference is that while Voldemort uses MindRape as a standard tactic, for Harry it's a last resort, one that absolutely horrifies him. Equally, Voldemort surrounds himself with puppets and sees himself as superior, while Harry plays down his background and any basis for superiority, actively seeking the company of those not dazzled by his already growing legend.
12th Apr '17 7:33:48 AM hubakon1368
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* In ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', Hiccup has his mother Valka. While they both saw that dragons weren't the monsters others that others thought they were, she gave up on trying to change Stoick and the other Berkians and left to love with dragons for roughly two decade, adopting a HumansAreBastards view and trying to keep dragons and humans apart. Hiccup, on the other hand [[RousseauWasRight believes that people CAN change for the better]], and didn't give up trying to change Berk (and his father's mind) for the betterment of both humans ''and'' dragons, and succeeding.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'', Hiccup has his mother Valka. While they both saw that dragons weren't the monsters others that others thought they were, she gave up on trying to change Stoick and the other Berkians and left to love live with dragons for roughly two decade, decades, adopting a HumansAreBastards view and trying to keep dragons and humans apart. Hiccup, on the other hand [[RousseauWasRight believes that people CAN change for the better]], and didn't give up trying to change Berk (and his father's mind) for the betterment of both humans ''and'' dragons, and succeeding.
5th Apr '17 11:48:22 AM OlmoJV
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* In ''Fanfic/OldWest'', [[DeterminedHomesteader Grace Glossy]] realizes eventually that her lover [[UnscrupulousHero Rattlesnake Jake]] is this to her after she witnesses him murdering [[spoiler:her husband]] remorselessly and [[UnstoppableRage in utter fury]] for hurting her. She's afterwards unable to face him while she's dealing with the fact that under her stand-up shell, she's just as capable as Jake of taking a life in righteous fury [[spoiler:(like those of the robbers who killed nearly all of her unborn babies)]].

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* In ''Fanfic/OldWest'', [[DeterminedHomesteader Grace Glossy]] realizes eventually that her lover [[UnscrupulousHero Rattlesnake Jake]] is this to her after she witnesses him murdering [[spoiler:her husband]] remorselessly and [[UnstoppableRage [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge in utter fury]] for hurting her. She's afterwards unable to face him while she's dealing with the fact that under her stand-up shell, she's just as capable as Jake of taking a life in righteous fury [[spoiler:(like those of the robbers who killed nearly all of her unborn babies)]].
30th Mar '17 1:10:53 PM JoeMerl
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* Christianity has {{Satan}} to {{God}}, obviously. Adaptations may play this up--for example, ''Literture/TheDivineComedy'' has Satan as a [[MultipleHeadCase three-headed monster]] as a sort of imitation of the Trinity. And, of course, the AntiChrist to Jesus.
* In TheBible, Bilaam to Moses. While Moses gave up life as an Egyptian prince to lead the Hebrews from slavery, Bilaam is a sort of prophet-for-profit who tries to curse the Hebrews for King Balak. Jewish tradition says that Bilaam was actually given abilities near Moses' level just so that the other nations couldn't claim that they would have been better if they had had a leader like Moses.
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