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26th Jul '16 11:15:31 PM PaulA
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* Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin completed the original ''Literature/EarthseaTrilogy'' in 1974. Sixteen years later, she wrote a fourth book ''Tehanu: The Last Book of Earthsea'', which suffers from MoodWhiplash, WriterOnBoard and a lack of plot. And it wasn't even the last book.

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* Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin completed the original ''Literature/EarthseaTrilogy'' ''Literature/{{Earthsea}}'' trilogy in 1974. Sixteen years later, she wrote a fourth book ''Tehanu: book, ''[[{{Literature/Tehanu}} Tehanu: The Last Book of Earthsea'', Earthsea]]'', which suffers from MoodWhiplash, WriterOnBoard and a lack of plot. And it wasn't even the last book.
26th Jul '16 12:12:48 AM JewelSatellite
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* ''Franchise/MegaMan'' has been all over the place with this. At some point a given series starts sucking hard and a spin-off is made. It starts off great, then slowly slides into crap until a spin-off is made and the [[CapcomSequelStagnation cycle begins anew]]. From the sound of it, this could be blamed on ExecutiveMeddling; Keiji Inafune, the creator of Mega Man, wanted to end the [[VideoGame/MegaManClassic Classic]] series at ''[[VideoGame/MegaMan6 6]]'' and the ''X'' series on ''[[VideoGame/MegaManX5 5]]'', but Capcom wanted to make more money.
** ''[[VideoGame/MegaMan7 7]]'' was released after the series' [[VideoGame/MegaManX first]] SequelSeries, and it and its following installments are considered massive improvements. [[BrokenBase Some]] fans still consider ''[[VideoGame/MegaMan2 2]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/MegaMan3 3]]'' to be the pinnacle of the series, however.
** ''VideoGame/{{Mega Man X8}}'' was also surprisingly good despite the enormous amounts of FakeDifficulty. Apparently Capcom sequels go in cycles. ''[[VideoGame/MegaMan9 9]]'' supports this theory.
** ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' actually really improved for the last installment, although the two preceding ones were pretty mediocre. The progression goes: ''1'' was bad but an ObviousBeta so it was forgiven, ''2'' got the formula right, ''3'' was still a very solid game and regarded one of the best along with ''2'' and also would have wrapped everything up nicely if it had ended on that, ''4'' most people would rather forget and was pretty out there even for the games, ''5'' the game started to get back on track but not quite there, ''6'' returned to to the formula that made ''2'' and ''3'' good but still wasn't considered good enough to be masterpiece as games two and three.
** ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'' had the same situation. The first was alright, the second was bad, but the third is largely agreed to have been fantastic.
** ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'', on the other hand, averted this entirely. All four installments are universally beloved (even with, again, an extension beyond how many games Inafune wanted to make), with the largest complaint from reviewers being that [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks they were too same-y]].
** Another aversion is ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'', which became a massive cult hit but failed to sell well. The fans agree that its sequel improved on its flaws in every way, with some saying that it took the series out of ObviousBeta status. Thanks to a bad case of ExecutiveMeddling, it'll never be known if the third game would've bucked the trend or not.



** ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' is either loved for its excellent story, or hated for various reasons, including lack of scares and abandoning the series' established formula.
25th Jul '16 11:57:11 PM JewelSatellite
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25th Jul '16 11:49:07 PM JewelSatellite
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** Music/LilWayne's ''Tha Carter II'' is universally considered to be an improvement over ''Tha Carter''; some fans still consider ''II'' to be his best album, in fact. While ''Tha Carter III'' massively outsold ''II'', debate still rages on the better album. However, a consensus ''has'' emerged on ''Tha Carter IV'' - namely, that it's a steaming hunk of shit compared to the previous two ''Carters''. As two albums came between ''III'' and ''IV'' (including the rock album), ''IV'' ended up playing the rule straight.

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** Music/LilWayne's ''Tha Carter II'' is universally considered to be an improvement over ''Tha Carter''; some fans still consider ''II'' to be his best album, in fact. While ''Tha Carter III'' massively outsold ''II'', [[BrokenBase debate still rages on the better album. album.]] However, a consensus ''has'' emerged on ''Tha Carter IV'' - namely, that it's a steaming hunk of shit compared to the previous two ''Carters''. As two albums came between ''III'' and ''IV'' (including the rock album), ''IV'' ended up playing the rule straight.



** Music/KanyeWest also strongly averted this with ''Late Registration'', the second installment in the "college bear" series of albums, which is widely regarded as a worthy follow-up to ''College Dropout''. ''Graduation'' is a bit more controversial - while it achieved massive commercial and critical success, it began Kanye's trend towards [[NewSoundAlbum different sounds on each album]]. It should be noted that Kanye has actively averted this trope following ''Graduation'' - his subsequent solo albums (''808s and Heartbreaks'', ''My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy'', and ''Yeezus'') are stylistically and sonically very different.

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** Music/KanyeWest also strongly averted this with ''Late Registration'', the second installment in the "college bear" series of albums, which is widely regarded as a worthy follow-up to ''College Dropout''. ''Graduation'' is a bit more controversial - while it achieved massive commercial and critical success, it began Kanye's trend towards [[NewSoundAlbum different sounds on each album]]. It should be noted that Kanye has actively averted this trope following ''Graduation'' - his subsequent solo albums (''808s and Heartbreaks'', ''My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy'', and ''Yeezus'') are stylistically and sonically very different.



* It's a BaseBreaker but the general consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' is this to ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'', due to being a rather generic SliceOfLife show that suffers badly from MostWritersAreAdults, when the original had a fairly unique premise.

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* It's a BaseBreaker but the general consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' is this to ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'', due to being a rather generic SliceOfLife show that suffers badly from MostWritersAreAdults, when the original had a fairly unique premise.



* ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'', depending on who you ask, given the mixed reception of its followups compared to ''Total Drama Island'', which enjoyed the greatest critical acclaim. The trend began with the first sequel ''Action'', which was widely regarded as having failed to recapture the fun and excitement of the original; then came along ''Total Drama World Tour'', considered to have been a major improvement over its predecessor, if not superior to the original, but also suffered from a BrokenBase due to several divisive plot points. ''Revenge of the Island'', the first to feature a new cast became a major Base Breaker among fans who still dispute whether the second cast proved a positive addition to the series or not, and for taking the series in a new direction with its shorter length and more "kid-friendly" tone. The next season, ''All-Stars'' however has been regarded as abysmal by large sections of the fandom who took issue with the handling of the majority of the returning cast, numerous plot points that are either nonsensical or completely abandoned at the drop of a hat, and its controversial ending. Finally, ''Pahkitew Island'' saw the debut of yet another new cast and a new island, and was much more warmly received by fans than its predecessor with some even deeming it to be almost as good as ''Island'', despite lingering disagreements over how the third cast compares to the previous two once more as well as arguments of how it continued to make the same kind of mistakes as the last two seasons (which becomes more apparent upon hearing that both ''Pahkitew Island'' & ''All-Stars'' were produced simultaneously).

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* ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'', depending on who you ask, given the mixed reception of its followups compared to ''Total Drama Island'', which enjoyed the greatest critical acclaim. The trend began with the first sequel ''Action'', which was widely regarded as having failed to recapture the fun and excitement of the original; then came along ''Total Drama World Tour'', considered to have been a major improvement over its predecessor, if not superior to the original, but also suffered from a BrokenBase due to several divisive plot points. ''Revenge of the Island'', the first to feature a new cast became a major Base Breaker BaseBreakingCharacter among fans who still dispute whether the second cast proved a positive addition to the series or not, and for taking the series in a new direction with its shorter length and more "kid-friendly" tone. The next season, ''All-Stars'' however has been regarded as abysmal by large sections of the fandom who took issue with the handling of the majority of the returning cast, numerous plot points that are either nonsensical or completely abandoned at the drop of a hat, and its controversial ending. Finally, ''Pahkitew Island'' saw the debut of yet another new cast and a new island, and was much more warmly received by fans than its predecessor with some even deeming it to be almost as good as ''Island'', despite lingering disagreements over how the third cast compares to the previous two once more as well as arguments of how it continued to make the same kind of mistakes as the last two seasons (which becomes more apparent upon hearing that both ''Pahkitew Island'' & ''All-Stars'' were produced simultaneously).
22nd Jul '16 6:34:45 PM AlanPalgut
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* The original ''Film/{{Psycho}}'' spawned three worsening sequels, none of which involved Creator/AlfredHitchcock due to AuthorExistenceFailure.
22nd Jul '16 12:50:48 PM Vir
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45%, 37% and 11%).

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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45%, 37% and 11%).12%).
22nd Jul '16 3:19:18 AM Vir
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45%, 37% and 16%).

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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45%, 37% and 16%).11%).
20th Jul '16 2:58:11 PM Vir
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45% and 37%).

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* The first ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' has a respectable Rotten Tomatoes score of 77%. The first sequel got a rotten 57%, and it just went down from there (45% (45%, 37% and 37%).16%).
14th Jul '16 8:35:58 PM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Rio 2}}'' is agreed on by both critics and audiences to be weaker than the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Rio}}''.

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* While not reprehensible, ''WesternAnimation/{{Rio 2}}'' is agreed on by both critics and audiences to be weaker than the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Rio}}''.
14th Jul '16 11:49:39 AM SunriseWarrior
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The inverse is a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel (a good sequel to a mediocre or terrible work) or EvenBetterSequel (an awesome sequel to a good original work) ContestedSequel is when there is considerable division about the sequel's quality. For a strangely divergent sequel, see InNameOnly. For a sequel that retains the monster or villain but features none of the original heroes, see VillainBasedFranchise. Can be caused by a poor choice in SequelEscalation, and lead up to FranchiseZombie if a sequel that should have been a FranchiseKiller doesn't destroy the series. Backlash against sequels has made many reviewers {{Sequelphobic}}. Some fans treat such sequels with FanonDiscontinuity. See also SophomoreSlump, TheProblemWithLicensedGames. For TV series, this can sometimes be a result of a PostScriptSeason. The reason why SequelSnark and RidiculousFutureSequelization became common jokes.

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The inverse is a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel (a good sequel to a mediocre or terrible work) or EvenBetterSequel (an awesome sequel to a good original work) work). ContestedSequel is when there is considerable division about the sequel's quality. For a strangely divergent sequel, see InNameOnly. For a sequel that retains the monster or villain but features none of the original heroes, see VillainBasedFranchise. Can be caused by a poor choice in SequelEscalation, and lead up to FranchiseZombie if a sequel that should have been a FranchiseKiller doesn't destroy the series. Backlash against sequels has made many reviewers {{Sequelphobic}}. Some fans treat such sequels with FanonDiscontinuity. See also SophomoreSlump, TheProblemWithLicensedGames. For TV series, this can sometimes be a result of a PostScriptSeason. The reason why SequelSnark and RidiculousFutureSequelization became common jokes.
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