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* Music/EltonJohn's first album, ''Empty Sky'', is rather obscure outside of the US--where it was issued in 1975 at the height of John's popularity--and his second album, ''[[SelfTitledAlbum Elton John]]'', is often considered his debut album. Outside of the US, ''Empty Sky'' tends to be remembered for "Skyline Pigeon" and little else, while ''Elton John'' is almost universally regarded as an EvenBetterSequel.
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* The original ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is [[AmericansHateTingle largely unknown in Spain]]. But put on TV any day, at any hour. Chances are, one channel will be broadcasting an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' under the label "Law and Order".

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* The original ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is [[AmericansHateTingle largely unknown in Spain]]. But put on TV any day, at any hour. Chances are, one channel will be broadcasting an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' under the label "Law and Order". The same thing happens throughout Latin America.
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* ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever''. What little attention it gets over the other two is only because of the poster child for MorePopularSpinoff, ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', and the only reason it gets ''any'' attention is due to its sequel {{O|riginalVideoAnimation}}VA - which, unlike the ''[=TH2=]'' anime, is [[BleachedUnderpants suitable for all audiences]], although it still doesn't make any sense unless you play the game first.

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* ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever''. What little attention it gets over the other two is only because of the poster child for MorePopularSpinoff, ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', and the only reason it gets ''any'' attention is due to its sequel {{O|riginalVideoAnimation}}VA - which, unlike the ''[=TH2=]'' anime, is [[BleachedUnderpants suitable for all audiences]], audiences, although it still doesn't make any sense unless you play the game first.
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* ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyGeneration4'' utterly eclipsed all previous generations in popularity and gained a mainstream recognition that they never came close to achieving.
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* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': The original run starring [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Robin]], [[Characters/TheFlashWallyWest Kid Flash]], Characters/WonderGirl, [[Characters/AquamanSupportingCharacters Aqualad]], and later [[Characters/GreenArrowSpeedy Speedy]] - has largely been displaced by TheEighties ''The New Teen Titans'' (which got rid of several of the previous Titans and introduced [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Cyborg]], [[Characters/TeenTitansStarfire Starfire]] and [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Raven]], and also added former ComicBook/DoomPatrol member [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]] to the cast), though many comic fans know that the group were TrueCompanions pre-New 52. This became even worse when the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' animated series came out and it was based on ''The New Teen Titans''. Aqualad and Speedy were included in the cartoon but are Titans East members, while Kid Flash appeared in one episode but never even interacted with the Titans. Wonder Girl was planned to appear but was banned due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Wonder Woman embargo]], though she did appear in the ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo'' comic spinoff. The misconception is so strong that when Starfire was added to ''Videogame/{{Fortnite}}'' in 2022, the company's official Twitter account referred to her as a "founding member of the Teen Titans."

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* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': The original run starring [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Robin]], [[Characters/TheFlashWallyWest Kid Flash]], Characters/WonderGirl, [[Characters/AquamanSupportingCharacters [[Characters/AquamanSupportingCast Aqualad]], and later [[Characters/GreenArrowSpeedy Speedy]] - has largely been displaced by TheEighties ''The New Teen Titans'' (which got rid of several of the previous Titans and introduced [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Cyborg]], [[Characters/TeenTitansStarfire Starfire]] and [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Raven]], and also added former ComicBook/DoomPatrol member [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]] to the cast), though many comic fans know that the group were TrueCompanions pre-New 52. This became even worse when the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' animated series came out and it was based on ''The New Teen Titans''. Aqualad and Speedy were included in the cartoon but are Titans East members, while Kid Flash appeared in one episode but never even interacted with the Titans. Wonder Girl was planned to appear but was banned due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Wonder Woman embargo]], though she did appear in the ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo'' comic spinoff. The misconception is so strong that when Starfire was added to ''Videogame/{{Fortnite}}'' in 2022, the company's official Twitter account referred to her as a "founding member of the Teen Titans."

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* The second volume of ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' wasn't popular at all until Creator/GrantMorrison took over, and the title subsequently became one of the most iconic comics of the '80s and early '90s. Today, few people remember the initial 18 issues that preceded Morrison's run.
* Naturally, most people are unaware of the 1986 ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' reboot ''ComicBook/TheManOfSteel'' or anything that continues from it. When ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' was released after a flurry of media coverage unheard of for a comic book saga, some more familiar with earlier comics or the character's various film and TV incarnations may have been confused to learn that Ma & Pa Kent were alive or that Superman and Lois were officially a couple with her knowing his secret identity or that Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} wasn't Superman's cousin but a shape-shifting life-form who was dating long-haired redhead [[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]]. New and returning fans may have been even more confused by subplots born of elements introduced in the period between 1986 and 1992.
* Initially played straight regarding ''ComicBook/{{Hawkman}}'', then subverted. Thanks to Hawkgirl's popularity from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' (and previously, the Silver and Bronze Age comic book Hawks), a lot of mainstream audiences were far more familiar with the space cop, Thanagarian concept of the Hawks than the original Golden Age reincarnating Hawks. While ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' would use Carter Hall instead of Katar Hol, that didn't really do much, since it was a relatively minor role, and ''Justice League'' was just more popular in the long run. Then the ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'' used the reincarnating Hawks, and people became much more familiar with that version of them than the space cops.
* The Belgian comic ''ComicBook/JohanAndPeewit'' is not very famous around the world. However, everybody knows its spin-off ''Franchise/TheSmurfs''.
* Dan Garrett is known for being the original ComicBook/BlueBeetle, but much like [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Alan Scott]] and [[ComicBook/TheFlash Jay Garrick]][[note]]except even more so; most fans of the Silver Age Flash and Green Lantern knew of the Golden Age versions from anthologies and reprints, but Blue Beetle was a much more obscure character (not even owned by DC until the 1980s), and very few people remembered him at all by the time he became a CanonImmigrant to the DC universe during ''Crisis on Infinite Earths''[[/note]], he's been completely overshadowed by his successor Ted Kord, who in turn has been overshadowed by ''his'' successor Jaime Reyes. The general audiences know them far more than the original.
* Like the ''X-Men'' example below, nobody really cared much about ''ComicBook/{{Supreme}}'' until Creator/AlanMoore came along. Many modern readers are unaware that there were already 40 issues prior the start to Moore's run.
* The original run of ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' - starring Characters/{{Robin}}, Kid Flash, ComicBook/WonderGirl, Aqualad, and later Speedy - has largely been displaced by TheEighties ''The New Teen Titans'' (which got rid of several of the previous Titans and introduced [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Cyborg]], [[Characters/TeenTitansStarfire Starfire]] and [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Raven]], and also added former ComicBook/DoomPatrol member [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]] to the cast), though many comic fans know that the group were TrueCompanions pre-New 52. This became even worse when the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' animated series came out and it was based on ''The New Teen Titans''. Aqualad and Speedy were included in the cartoon but are Titans East members, while Kid Flash appeared in one episode but never even interacted with the Titans. Wonder Girl was planned to appear but was banned due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Wonder Woman embargo]], though she did appear in the ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo'' comic spinoff. The misconception is so strong that when Starfire was added to ''Videogame/{{Fortnite}}'' in 2022, the company's official Twitter account referred to her as a "founding member of the Teen Titans."
* Ask someone about ''ComicBook/XForce'' and you'll generally get descriptions of two books; Peter Milligan's humorous and satirical ''X-Force''/''X-Statix'' run and Rick Remender's seminal ''Uncanny X-Force'' run. There's been multiple X-Force comics before, between, and after said books, but they tend to ignored or quickly forgotten. Fans generally know ''of'' those other series -- mainly because {{Characters/Cable|NathanSummers}} played a big role in them -- but not many care to know much ''about'' them.
* Everyone knows about the first ComicBook/{{Venom}}, Eddie Brock, and a decent number know about the third and fourth ones, Mac Gargan and Flash Thompson. However very few are aware that there was a ''second'' Venom, a mobster's son who got the symbiote. This is understandable, as the second Venom was a total pushover who only lasted a few issues at best, so many just plain forget he existed.
* Thanks to a number of factors, including the [[AdaptationDisplacement beloved movie adaptation]], the second ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy team (Characters/StarLord, Characters/RocketRaccoon, Characters/{{Groot}}, Drax, Gamora, etc.) is iconic and extremely well-known, while many forget or don't know that the original Silver Age team even existed. The only members of that team that are really remembered are the ones with links to the newer team, like Yondu.
* Although created by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, ''ComicBook/XMen'' didn't take off as a franchise until its relaunch by Len Wein and Dave Cockrum with the addition of new and highly popular characters like [[Characters/MarvelComicsStorm Storm]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsNightcrawler Nightcrawler]], and [[WolverinePublicity especially]] Characters/{{Wolverine|JamesLoganHowlett}}. Today, most people remember that particular team when asked to describe the X-Men and their ensuing adventures written by Chris Claremont. AdaptationDisplacement is also in effect here, as the later additions to the team became far better known thanks to the [[Film/XMenFilmSeries movies]] and the [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries various]] [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution animated]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009 series]]. Characters like Wolverine and Storm are now largely recognizable, while far fewer people would be likely to identify someone like Polaris. [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and [[Characters/MarvelComicsBeast Beast]] were in both, but while the original Cyclops would be instantly recognizable to modern fans, fans who only know the furry blue version of Beast introduced later might be puzzled by Hank's original (human except for large hands and feet) appearance.
* The original ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'' team introduced in 1959 has been completely overshadowed by the retooled team introduced in the 80's, a team of supervillains kept on a government leash and assigned to do covert missions that would be too dangerous for regular soldiers. This is a stark contrast to the original team, who were just a regular band of adventurers, and with the exception of Rick Flag, Jr, contained none of the familiar faces from the better known lineup. Original team members Jess Bright, Dr. Hugh Evans, and Karin Grace will get a resounding "who?" when brought up to non-comics fans, while most of them have heard of the retooled lineup's members such as [[Characters/SuicideSquadSupportStaff Amanda Waller]], Captain Boomerang, [[Characters/SuicideSquadOperatives Deadshot]], Bronze Tiger, or Characters/{{Harley Quinn|TheCharacter}}.
* The Charlton heroes ComicBook/CaptainAtom, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and ComicBook/TheQuestion were relatively successful, though none of them are A-listers or that prominent in public consciousness. No, people are much more likely to know the characters created to be their expies for ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', Doctor Manhattan, Nite Owl and Rorschach.
* If you use the name "[[Characters/CaptainAmericaCentralRoguesGallery Baron Zemo]]", you're most likely referring to Helmut, who didn't appear until nearly a decade after his father and didn't actually become Baron Zemo nearly two decades after. If you refer to Heinrich, you're going to have to specify his name to avoid confusion.
* Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Batgirl}} and Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} are only aware of Barbara Gordon and Kara Zor-El, and they completely ignore the existence of older characters with similar codenames (Bette Kane and Lucy of Borgonia/Super-Girl, respectively). Related to Batgirl, [[Characters/BatmanHuntress Huntress]] and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} probably bring to mind Helena Bertinelli and Kate Kane rather than the first two women who used said codenames.
* Likewise, nowadays, if someone is talking about "Captain Marvel," they're usually referring to [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]], who is actually just the most recent character at Marvel to use the name. Far fewer people in the mainstream are aware of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMarvels Mar-Vell]], the Silver Age superhero she got the name from, and whose book she actually originated in. Even fewer people know about Monica Rambeau, the Captain Marvel after Mar-Vell and before Carol, or Genis, the son of Mar-Vell, or ''his sister'', who also took the codename. Let alone the temporary Skrull imposter that took the name Mar-Vell because he went too deep into being a sleeper agent.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'':
** Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Batgirl}} are only aware of Barbara Gordon and are completely ignorant of the existence of the older character with a similar codename, Bette Kane.
** Related to Batgirl, [[Characters/BatmanHuntress Huntress]] and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} probably bring to mind Helena Bertinelli and Kate Kane rather than the first two women who used said codenames, Helena Wayne and Kathy Kane respectively.
* ''ComicBook/BlueBeetle'': Dan Garrett is known for being the original Blue Beetle, but much like [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Alan Scott]] and [[ComicBook/TheFlash Jay Garrick]][[note]]except even more so; most fans of the Silver Age Flash and Green Lantern knew of the Golden Age versions from anthologies and reprints, but Blue Beetle was a much more obscure character (not even owned by DC until the 1980s), and very few people remembered him at all by the time he became a CanonImmigrant to the DC universe during ''Crisis on Infinite Earths''[[/note]], he's been completely overshadowed by his successor Ted Kord, who in turn has been overshadowed by ''his'' successor Jaime Reyes. The general audiences know them far more than the original.
* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'': If you use the name "[[Characters/CaptainAmericaCentralRoguesGallery Baron Zemo]]", you're most likely referring to Helmut, who didn't appear until nearly a decade after his father and didn't actually become Baron Zemo nearly two decades after. If you refer to Heinrich, you're going to have to specify his name to avoid confusion.
* ''ComicBook/{{Captain Marvel|MarvelComics}}'': Likewise, nowadays, if someone is talking about "Captain Marvel," they're usually referring to [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]], who is actually just the most recent character at Marvel to use the name. Far fewer people in the mainstream are aware of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMarvels Mar-Vell]], the Silver Age superhero she got the name from, and whose book she actually originated in. Even fewer people know about Monica Rambeau, the Captain Marvel after Mar-Vell and before Carol, or Genis, the son of Mar-Vell, or ''his sister'', who also took the codename. Let alone the temporary Skrull imposter that took the name Mar-Vell because he went too deep into being a sleeper agent.
* ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'':
The second volume of ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' wasn't popular at all until Creator/GrantMorrison took over, and the title subsequently became one of the most iconic comics of the '80s and early '90s. Today, few people remember the initial 18 issues that preceded Morrison's run.
* Naturally, most people are unaware ''ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'': Thanks to a number of factors, including the 1986 ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' reboot ''ComicBook/TheManOfSteel'' [[AdaptationDisplacement beloved movie adaptation]], the second team (Characters/StarLord, Characters/RocketRaccoon, Characters/{{Groot}}, Drax, Gamora, etc.) is iconic and extremely well-known, while many forget or anything don't know that continues from it. When ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' was released after a flurry the original Silver Age team even existed. The only members of media coverage unheard of for a comic book saga, some more familiar that team that are really remembered are the ones with earlier comics or links to the character's various film and TV incarnations may have been confused to learn that Ma & Pa Kent were alive or that Superman and Lois were officially a couple with her knowing his secret identity or that Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} wasn't Superman's cousin but a shape-shifting life-form who was dating long-haired redhead [[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]]. New and returning fans may have been even more confused by subplots born of elements introduced in the period between 1986 and 1992.
newer team, like Yondu.
* ''ComicBook/{{Hawkman}}'': Initially played straight regarding ''ComicBook/{{Hawkman}}'', straight, then subverted. Thanks to Hawkgirl's popularity from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' (and previously, the Silver and Bronze Age comic book Hawks), a lot of mainstream audiences were far more familiar with the space cop, Thanagarian concept of the Hawks than the original Golden Age reincarnating Hawks. While ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' would use Carter Hall instead of Katar Hol, that didn't really do much, since it was a relatively minor role, and ''Justice League'' was just more popular in the long run. Then the ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'' used the reincarnating Hawks, and people became much more familiar with that version of them than the space cops.
* ''ComicBook/JohanAndPeewit'': The Belgian comic ''ComicBook/JohanAndPeewit'' is not very famous around the world. However, everybody knows its spin-off ''Franchise/TheSmurfs''.
* Dan Garrett is known for being the ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'': The original ComicBook/BlueBeetle, but much like [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Alan Scott]] and [[ComicBook/TheFlash Jay Garrick]][[note]]except even more so; most fans of the Silver Age Flash and Green Lantern knew of the Golden Age versions from anthologies and reprints, but Blue Beetle was a much more obscure character (not even owned by DC until the 1980s), and very few people remembered him at all by the time he became a CanonImmigrant to the DC universe during ''Crisis on Infinite Earths''[[/note]], he's team introduced in 1959 has been completely overshadowed by his successor Ted Kord, the retooled team introduced in the 80's, a team of supervillains kept on a government leash and assigned to do covert missions that would be too dangerous for regular soldiers. This is a stark contrast to the original team, who in turn has were just a regular band of adventurers, and with the exception of Rick Flag, Jr, contained none of the familiar faces from the better known lineup. Original team members Jess Bright, Dr. Hugh Evans, and Karin Grace will get a resounding "who?" when brought up to non-comics fans, while most of them have heard of the retooled lineup's members such as [[Characters/SuicideSquadSupportStaff Amanda Waller]], Captain Boomerang, [[Characters/SuicideSquadOperatives Deadshot]], Bronze Tiger, or Characters/{{Harley Quinn|TheCharacter}}.
* ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'':
** Naturally, most people are unaware of the 1986 reboot ''ComicBook/TheManOfSteel'' or anything that continues from it. When ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' was released after a flurry of media coverage unheard of for a comic book saga, some more familiar with earlier comics or the character's various film and TV incarnations may have
been overshadowed by ''his'' successor Jaime Reyes. The general audiences know them far confused to learn that Ma & Pa Kent were alive or that Characters/{{Superman|TheCharacter}} and [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois]] were officially a couple with her knowing his secret identity or that Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} wasn't Superman's cousin but a shape-shifting life-form who was dating long-haired redhead [[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]]. New and returning fans may have been even more than confused by subplots born of elements introduced in the original.
* Like
period between 1986 and 1992.
** Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} are only aware of Kara Zor-El, and they completely ignore
the ''X-Men'' example below, nobody existence of the older character with a similar codename, Lucy of Borgonia.
* ''ComicBook/{{Supreme}}'': Nobody
really cared much about ''ComicBook/{{Supreme}}'' the series until Creator/AlanMoore came along. Many modern readers are unaware that there were already 40 issues prior the start to Moore's run.
* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': The original run of ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' - starring Characters/{{Robin}}, [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Robin]], [[Characters/TheFlashWallyWest Kid Flash, ComicBook/WonderGirl, Aqualad, Flash]], Characters/WonderGirl, [[Characters/AquamanSupportingCharacters Aqualad]], and later Speedy [[Characters/GreenArrowSpeedy Speedy]] - has largely been displaced by TheEighties ''The New Teen Titans'' (which got rid of several of the previous Titans and introduced [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Cyborg]], [[Characters/TeenTitansStarfire Starfire]] and [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Raven]], and also added former ComicBook/DoomPatrol member [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]] to the cast), though many comic fans know that the group were TrueCompanions pre-New 52. This became even worse when the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' animated series came out and it was based on ''The New Teen Titans''. Aqualad and Speedy were included in the cartoon but are Titans East members, while Kid Flash appeared in one episode but never even interacted with the Titans. Wonder Girl was planned to appear but was banned due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Wonder Woman embargo]], though she did appear in the ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo'' comic spinoff. The misconception is so strong that when Starfire was added to ''Videogame/{{Fortnite}}'' in 2022, the company's official Twitter account referred to her as a "founding member of the Teen Titans."
* Ask someone about ''ComicBook/XForce'' and you'll generally get descriptions of two books; Peter Milligan's humorous and satirical ''X-Force''/''X-Statix'' run and Rick Remender's seminal ''Uncanny X-Force'' run. There's been multiple X-Force comics before, between, and after said books, but they tend to ignored or quickly forgotten. Fans generally know ''of'' those other series -- mainly because {{Characters/Cable|NathanSummers}} played a big role in them -- but not many care to know much ''about'' them.
*
''ComicBook/{{Venom}}'': Everyone knows about the first ComicBook/{{Venom}}, [[Characters/MarvelComicsVenom Venom]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsEddieBrock Eddie Brock, Brock]], and a decent number know about the third and fourth ones, [[Characters/MarvelComicsMacGargan Mac Gargan Gargan]] and [[Characters/MarvelComicsFlashThompson Flash Thompson. Thompson]]. However very few are aware that there was a ''second'' Venom, Angelo Fortunato, a mobster's son who got the symbiote.symbiote in ''ComicBook/MarvelKnightsSpiderMan''. This is understandable, as the second Venom was a total pushover who only lasted a few issues at best, so many just plain forget he existed.
* Thanks ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': The Charlton heroes ComicBook/CaptainAtom, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and ComicBook/TheQuestion were relatively successful, though none of them are A-listers or that prominent in public consciousness. No, people are much more likely to a number of factors, including know the [[AdaptationDisplacement beloved movie adaptation]], the second ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy team (Characters/StarLord, Characters/RocketRaccoon, Characters/{{Groot}}, Drax, Gamora, etc.) is iconic characters created to be their expies for ''Watchmen'', Doctor Manhattan, Nite Owl and extremely well-known, while Rorschach.
* ''ComicBook/XForce'': Ask someone about ''X-Force'' and you'll generally get descriptions of two books; Peter Milligan's humorous and satirical ''X-Force''/''ComicBook/XStatix'' run and Rick Remender's seminal ''ComicBook/UncannyXForce'' run. There's been multiple X-Force comics before, between, and after said books, but they tend to ignored or quickly forgotten. Fans generally know ''of'' those other series -- mainly because [[Characters/MarvelComicsCable Cable]] played a big role in them -- but not
many forget or don't care to know that the original Silver Age team even existed. The only members of that team that are really remembered are the ones with links to the newer team, like Yondu.
much ''about'' them.
* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Although created by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, ''ComicBook/XMen'' the series didn't take off as a franchise until its relaunch by Len Wein and Dave Cockrum with the addition of new and highly popular characters like [[Characters/MarvelComicsStorm Storm]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsNightcrawler Nightcrawler]], and [[WolverinePublicity especially]] Characters/{{Wolverine|JamesLoganHowlett}}.[[Characters/MarvelComicsLogan Wolverine]]. Today, most people remember that particular team when asked to describe the X-Men and their ensuing adventures written by Chris Claremont. AdaptationDisplacement is also in effect here, as the later additions to the team became far better known thanks to the [[Film/XMenFilmSeries movies]] and the [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries various]] [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution animated]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009 series]]. Characters like Wolverine and Storm are now largely recognizable, while far fewer people would be likely to identify someone like Polaris. [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and [[Characters/MarvelComicsBeast Beast]] were in both, but while the original Cyclops would be instantly recognizable to modern fans, fans who only know the furry blue version of Beast introduced later might be puzzled by Hank's original (human except for large hands and feet) appearance.
* The original ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'' team introduced in 1959 has been completely overshadowed by the retooled team introduced in the 80's, a team of supervillains kept on a government leash and assigned to do covert missions that would be too dangerous for regular soldiers. This is a stark contrast to the original team, who were just a regular band of adventurers, and with the exception of Rick Flag, Jr, contained none of the familiar faces from the better known lineup. Original team members Jess Bright, Dr. Hugh Evans, and Karin Grace will get a resounding "who?" when brought up to non-comics fans, while most of them have heard of the retooled lineup's members such as [[Characters/SuicideSquadSupportStaff Amanda Waller]], Captain Boomerang, [[Characters/SuicideSquadOperatives Deadshot]], Bronze Tiger, or Characters/{{Harley Quinn|TheCharacter}}.
* The Charlton heroes ComicBook/CaptainAtom, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and ComicBook/TheQuestion were relatively successful, though none of them are A-listers or that prominent in public consciousness. No, people are much more likely to know the characters created to be their expies for ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', Doctor Manhattan, Nite Owl and Rorschach.
* If you use the name "[[Characters/CaptainAmericaCentralRoguesGallery Baron Zemo]]", you're most likely referring to Helmut, who didn't appear until nearly a decade after his father and didn't actually become Baron Zemo nearly two decades after. If you refer to Heinrich, you're going to have to specify his name to avoid confusion.
* Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Batgirl}} and Characters/{{Supergirl|TheCharacter}} are only aware of Barbara Gordon and Kara Zor-El, and they completely ignore the existence of older characters with similar codenames (Bette Kane and Lucy of Borgonia/Super-Girl, respectively). Related to Batgirl, [[Characters/BatmanHuntress Huntress]] and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} probably bring to mind Helena Bertinelli and Kate Kane rather than the first two women who used said codenames.
* Likewise, nowadays, if someone is talking about "Captain Marvel," they're usually referring to [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]], who is actually just the most recent character at Marvel to use the name. Far fewer people in the mainstream are aware of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMarvels Mar-Vell]], the Silver Age superhero she got the name from, and whose book she actually originated in. Even fewer people know about Monica Rambeau, the Captain Marvel after Mar-Vell and before Carol, or Genis, the son of Mar-Vell, or ''his sister'', who also took the codename. Let alone the temporary Skrull imposter that took the name Mar-Vell because he went too deep into being a sleeper agent.
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* The Parts of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' everyone remembers are from ''Manga/StardustCrusaders'' onward. [[Manga/PhantomBlood Part 1]] and [[Manga/BattleTendency Part 2]] are a lot more like ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' than what the series later became. It's to the point that, in America at least, early attempts to localize the series started with Part 3 and ended halfway through [[Manga/DiamondIsUnbreakable Part 4]]. This leads to a lot of MarthDebutedInSmashBros in some discussion forums.
** The video game adaptations have it even worse: the first two games were adaptations of ''Stardust Crusaders'' (though young Joseph from ''Battle Tendency'' was playable in [[VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the latter]]), then came an adaptation of ''Manga/GoldenWind'', and then in 2006, there was ''finally'' an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood''.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': The Parts of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' BreakthroughHit everyone remembers are from ''Manga/StardustCrusaders'' ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' onward. [[Manga/PhantomBlood [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Part 1]] and [[Manga/BattleTendency [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Part 2]] are a lot more like ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' than what the series later became. It's to the point that, in America at least, early attempts to localize the series started with Part 3 and ended halfway through [[Manga/DiamondIsUnbreakable [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Part 4]]. This leads to a lot of MarthDebutedInSmashBros in some discussion forums.
** The video game adaptations have it even worse: the first two games were adaptations of ''Stardust Crusaders'' (though young Joseph from ''Battle Tendency'' was playable in [[VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the latter]]), then came an adaptation of ''Manga/GoldenWind'', ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Golden Wind]]'' for the [[Platform/Playstation2 PS2]], and then in 2006, there was ''finally'' an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood''.
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* The ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' franchise is so synonymous with its undead, hockey mask-adorned StockSlasher and primary VillainProtagonist, Jason Voorhees, that many casual observers would only know that the killer in the [[Film/FridayThe13th1980 original film]] was ''Jason's mother'' and not Jason himself from the opening scene of ''[[Film/Scream1996 Scream]]'', if they are aware of this fact at all. Moreover, such people are probably even less likely to know that Jason only acquired what has since become his signature hockey mask partway through [[Film/FridayThe13thPartIII the third film]] (previously putting in appearances as a deformed child in flashbacks and [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane ambiguous dream sequences]] in the first film, and as a SackheadSlasher in [[Film/FridayThe13thPart2 the second film]]), that he did not become a hulking RevenantZombie until [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIJasonLives the sixth film]], and that not even all of the sequels truly feature him as the main villain (in particular, [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning the fifth film]] has a JackTheRipoff killer).

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* The ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' franchise is so synonymous with its undead, hockey mask-adorned StockSlasher and primary VillainProtagonist, Jason Voorhees, that many casual observers would only know that the killer in the [[Film/FridayThe13th1980 original film]] was ''Jason's mother'' and not Jason himself from the opening scene of ''[[Film/Scream1996 Scream]]'', if they are aware of this fact at all. Moreover, such people are probably even less likely to know that Jason only acquired what has since become his signature hockey mask partway through [[Film/FridayThe13thPartIII the third film]] (previously putting in appearances as a deformed child CreepyChild in flashbacks and [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane ambiguous dream sequences]] in the first film, and as a SackheadSlasher in [[Film/FridayThe13thPart2 the second film]]), that he did not become a hulking RevenantZombie until [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIJasonLives the sixth film]], and that not even all of the sequels truly feature him as the main villain (in particular, [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning the fifth film]] has a JackTheRipoff killer).
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* The ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' franchise is so synonymous with its undead, hockey mask-adorned StockSlasher and primary VillainProtagonist, Jason Voorhees, that many casual observers would only know that the killer in the [[Film/FridayThe13th1980 original film]] was ''Jason's mother'' and not Jason himself from the opening scene of ''[[Film/Scream1996 Scream]]'', if they are aware of this fact at all. Moreover, such people are probably even less likely to know that Jason only acquired what has since become his signature hockey mask partway through [[Film/FridayThe13thPartIII the third film]] (previously putting in appearances as a deformed child in flashbacks and [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane ambiguous dream sequences]] in the first film, and as a SackheadSlasher in [[Film/FridayThe13thPart2 the second film]]), that he did not become a hulking RevenantZombie until [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIJasonLives the sixth film]], and that not even all of the sequels truly feature him as the main antagonist (in particular, [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning the fifth film]] has a JackTheRipoff killer).

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* The ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' franchise is so synonymous with its undead, hockey mask-adorned StockSlasher and primary VillainProtagonist, Jason Voorhees, that many casual observers would only know that the killer in the [[Film/FridayThe13th1980 original film]] was ''Jason's mother'' and not Jason himself from the opening scene of ''[[Film/Scream1996 Scream]]'', if they are aware of this fact at all. Moreover, such people are probably even less likely to know that Jason only acquired what has since become his signature hockey mask partway through [[Film/FridayThe13thPartIII the third film]] (previously putting in appearances as a deformed child in flashbacks and [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane ambiguous dream sequences]] in the first film, and as a SackheadSlasher in [[Film/FridayThe13thPart2 the second film]]), that he did not become a hulking RevenantZombie until [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIJasonLives the sixth film]], and that not even all of the sequels truly feature him as the main antagonist villain (in particular, [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning the fifth film]] has a JackTheRipoff killer).

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