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27th Aug '16 1:34:34 PM Naram-Sin
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* The original ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is [[AmericansHateTingle largely unknown in Spain]]. But put on TV any day, at any hour. Chance is one channel will be broadcasting an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' under the label "Law and Order" -- period.
20th Aug '16 8:11:23 PM LaptopGuy
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* ''Film/BatmanBegins'' is considered a pretty good Batman film, especially compared to [[Film/BatmanForever the Schum]][[Film/BatmanAndRobin acher horrors]] that preceded it. However, it's ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' that is considered the great film of this generation, and thus is more remembered and acclaimed. Home media even refers to the series as "The Dark Knight Trilogy", rather than the "Batman Begins Trilogy". This caused some confusion with ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'''s plot, as it pulls more from the events of ''Batman Begins'' than of ''The Dark Knight''. Subverted in that "Batman Begins" is far from forgotten.

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* Downplayed with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. While ''Film/BatmanBegins'' is considered a pretty good Batman film, especially compared to [[Film/BatmanForever the Schum]][[Film/BatmanAndRobin acher horrors]] that preceded it. However, it, it's ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' that is considered the great film of this generation, and thus is more remembered and acclaimed. Home media even refers to the series as "The Dark Knight Trilogy", rather than the "Batman Begins Trilogy". This caused some confusion with ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'''s plot, as it pulls more from the events of ''Batman Begins'' than of ''The Dark Knight''. Subverted in Nevertheless, few people are unaware that "Batman Begins" ''The Dark Knight'' is far from forgotten.not the first installment in the series, and the film remains a classic to this day.



** In an odd case, Meghan Trainor won the award in 2016, ''a full year'' after getting several noms the previous ceremony on the strength of her first single, "All About That Bass".

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** In an odd case, Meghan Trainor won the award in 2016, ''a full year'' after getting several noms the previous ceremony on the strength of her first single, "All About That Bass". However, she subverts this overall because she had only one album out at the time.



* In some circles, Chubby Checker's "The Twist" tends to be overshadowed in terms of radio play by its follow-up, "Let's Twist Again".

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* In some circles, Chubby Checker's "The Twist" tends to be overshadowed in terms of radio play by its follow-up, "Let's Twist Again". But to general audiences, "The Twist" is still his best-known song.



* ''VideoGame/SonicRoboBlast2'', a popular 3D freeware game based on ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. You want proof? The original ''Sonic Robo Blast'' game doesn't even have a page on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} This Very Wiki]].

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* ''VideoGame/SonicRoboBlast2'', a popular 3D freeware game based on ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. You want proof? The original ''Sonic Robo Blast'' game doesn't even have a page on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} [[Wiki/TVTropes This Very Wiki]].
5th Aug '16 9:33:32 PM merotoker
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' has an in-universe example with the Second and Third Impacts. The First Impact was the meteor impact that killed the dinosaurs off way back when, [[spoiler:which actually isn't the case. First Impact was when the Black Moon struck the Earth, far before the time of the dinosaurs. The only reason the K-T meteor impact was linked to First Impact was because of the cover story for Second Impact also being a meteor impact.]]

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' has an in-universe example with the Second and Third Impacts. The First Impact was the meteor impact that killed the dinosaurs off way back when, [[spoiler:which actually isn't the case. First Impact was when the Black Moon struck the Earth, far before the time of the dinosaurs. The only reason the K-T meteor impact was linked to First Impact was because of the cover story for Second Impact also being a meteor impact.]]impact]].



* Although created by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, ''ComicBook/XMen'' didn't take off as a franchise until its relaunch by Len Wein and Dave Cockrum with the addition of new and highly popular characters like ComicBook/{{Storm}}, Nightcrawler, and [[WolverinePublicity especially]] {{Wolverine}}. Today, most people remember that particular team when asked to describe the X-Men and their ensuing adventures written by Chris Claremont.
** AdaptationDisplacement is also in effect here, as the later additions to the team became far better known thanks to the [[Film/XMen movies]] and the [[WesternAnimation/XMen various]] [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution animated]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen series]]. Characters like Wolverine and Storm are now largely recognizable, while far fewer people would be likely to identify someone like Angel or Polaris.

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* Although created by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, ''ComicBook/XMen'' didn't take off as a franchise until its relaunch by Len Wein and Dave Cockrum with the addition of new and highly popular characters like ComicBook/{{Storm}}, Nightcrawler, Comicbook/{{Nightcrawler}}, and [[WolverinePublicity especially]] {{Wolverine}}. ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}. Today, most people remember that particular team when asked to describe the X-Men and their ensuing adventures written by Chris Claremont.
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Claremont. AdaptationDisplacement is also in effect here, as the later additions to the team became far better known thanks to the [[Film/XMen movies]] and the [[WesternAnimation/XMen various]] [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution animated]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen series]]. Characters like Wolverine and Storm are now largely recognizable, while far fewer people would be likely to identify someone like Angel or Polaris.



* When most people think of ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'', they picture the character shirtless in the jungle, slaying hundreds of {{mooks}} with machineguns and explosive arrows. In Rambo's first film, ''First Blood'', he's fighting American lawmen and only kills one in self-defense with a rock (and the man's death wasn't even intentional, or even really directly caused by Rambo). And it's also a relatively anti-war movie, though not nearly so much as the original book, focusing on the shameful reception of Vietnam veterans upon their return home. The film ends with Rambo crying his heart out over the injustice of war and those who wage it. The sequels are pure war porn.

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* When most people think of ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'', they picture the character shirtless in the jungle, slaying hundreds of {{mooks}} with machineguns and explosive arrows. In Rambo's first film, ''First Blood'', ''Film/FirstBlood'', he's fighting American lawmen and only kills one in self-defense with a rock (and the man's death wasn't even intentional, or even really directly caused by Rambo). And it's also a relatively anti-war movie, though not nearly so much as the original book, focusing on the shameful reception of Vietnam veterans upon their return home. The film ends with Rambo crying his heart out over the injustice of war and those who wage it. The sequels are pure war porn.



* The original ''Film/MadMax'' (which was only given limited release in America) is far more obscure than its sequels ''Mad Max 2'' (renamed ''Film/TheRoadWarrior'' in America) and ''Film/MadMaxBeyondThunderdome''. Notably, while the sequels became highly influential visions of an AfterTheEnd world in their depictions of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, the original film is set in a ''pre''-apocalyptic civilization that is on the verge of/in the process of falling apart.

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* The original ''Film/MadMax'' (which was only given limited release in America) is far more obscure than its sequels ''Mad ''Film/{{Mad Max 2'' 2|TheRoadWarrior}}'' (renamed ''Film/TheRoadWarrior'' ''The Road Warrior'' in America) and ''Film/MadMaxBeyondThunderdome''. Notably, while the sequels became highly influential visions of an AfterTheEnd world in their depictions of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, the original film is set in a ''pre''-apocalyptic civilization that is on the verge of/in the process of falling apart.



* Rare case of the SpiritualSuccessor overtaking the original. Hitomi Fujimoto's shoujo mystery LightNovel ''KZ Shonen Shoujo Seminar'' was CutShort after a year. Its official SpiritualSuccessor, the children's novel ''Literature/TanteiTeamKZJikenNote'', however, spans 20 books, two {{spinoff}} series (including one full length novel), and adapted into both manga and anime.

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* Rare case of the SpiritualSuccessor overtaking the original. Hitomi Fujimoto's shoujo mystery LightNovel {{Light Novel|s}} ''KZ Shonen Shoujo Seminar'' was CutShort after a year. Its official SpiritualSuccessor, the children's novel ''Literature/TanteiTeamKZJikenNote'', however, spans 20 books, two {{spinoff}} series (including one full length novel), and adapted into both manga and anime.



* Most people today think of Kelsey Grammer as that pompous but likeable radio psychiatrist Frasier Crane from that sitcom ''Series/{{Frasier}}''. Some older viewers may remember him as that pompous and initially very ''un''likeable psychiatrist from that ''other'' sitcom, ''Series/{{Cheers}}''.

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* Most people today think of Kelsey Grammer Creator/KelseyGrammer as that pompous but likeable radio psychiatrist Frasier Crane from that sitcom ''Series/{{Frasier}}''. Some older viewers may remember him as that pompous and initially very ''un''likeable psychiatrist from that ''other'' sitcom, ''Series/{{Cheers}}''.



* The original lineup of Music/TheMoodyBlues was an R&B-influenced [[TheBritishInvasion British Invasion]] quintet with Denny Laine (later to join Wings) on vocals and guitar, and Clint Warwick on bass. They had a minor hit with a cover of Bessie Banks' Go Now", and an album called "The Magnificent Moodies" in 1965. Laine and Warwick were replaced by Justin Hayward and John Lodge, respectively, who created the progressive sound the Moodies are known for with their second album, 1967's ''Days Of Future Passed" (which featured "Nights In White Satin").

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* The original lineup of Music/TheMoodyBlues was an R&B-influenced [[TheBritishInvasion [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishInvasion British Invasion]] quintet with Denny Laine (later to join Wings) on vocals and guitar, and Clint Warwick on bass. They had a minor hit with a cover of Bessie Banks' Go Now", and an album called "The Magnificent Moodies" in 1965. Laine and Warwick were replaced by Justin Hayward and John Lodge, respectively, who created the progressive sound the Moodies are known for with their second album, 1967's ''Days Of Future Passed" (which featured "Nights In White Satin").



* ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterI Street Fighter]]'', released in 1987, introduced many of the same concepts later used by its sequel ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'', namely a six-button configuration and command-based special moves, but the game was merely a cult hit due to its stiff controls and lack of any playable character other than Ryu and Ken. The six-button configuration was an afterthought, created as a cheaper alternative for arcade owners who couldn't afford the deluxe cabinet that used two large mechatronic punching pads for each player that determined the strength of the player's attacks based on how hard they were pushed. ''Street Fighter II'' refined all the mechanics from the original game, keeping the six-button configuration, while adding multiple player characters, essentially giving birth to the fighting game boom of the '90s. Also, while everyone knew about the player's special moves in ''Street Fighter II'' from the get go because the commands were printed on the instruction card. Because of this, people often forget that Ryu and Ken's three special attacks in the original were literally secret techniques that the player needed to discover for themselves. The ([[ClassicCheatCode subsequently unchanged]]) control sequence was devised so it could be [[{{Pun}} hit on]] by accident, provoking players to spend lots of time (and credits) trying to find out how the hell they'd done it.

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* ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterI Street Fighter]]'', ''VideoGame/{{Street Fighter|I}}'', released in 1987, introduced many of the same concepts later used by its sequel ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'', namely a six-button configuration and command-based special moves, but the game was merely a cult hit due to its stiff controls and lack of any playable character other than Ryu and Ken. The six-button configuration was an afterthought, created as a cheaper alternative for arcade owners who couldn't afford the deluxe cabinet that used two large mechatronic punching pads for each player that determined the strength of the player's attacks based on how hard they were pushed. ''Street Fighter II'' refined all the mechanics from the original game, keeping the six-button configuration, while adding multiple player characters, essentially giving birth to the fighting game boom of the '90s. Also, while everyone knew about the player's special moves in ''Street Fighter II'' from the get go because the commands were printed on the instruction card. Because of this, people often forget that Ryu and Ken's three special attacks in the original were literally secret techniques that the player needed to discover for themselves. The ([[ClassicCheatCode subsequently unchanged]]) control sequence was devised so it could be [[{{Pun}} hit on]] by accident, provoking players to spend lots of time (and credits) trying to find out how the hell they'd done it.



* VisualNovel/SteinsGate is a sequel to VisualNovel/ChaosHead that ended up being ''far'' more popular in the West than its predecessor is. In addition to Steins;Gate [[EvenBetterSequel largely being considered a better story overall]], one of the biggest reasons for Chaos;Head's comparative lack of popularity is that its anime adaptation was by and large [[AdaptationDecay considered to be subpar]], even without the source material taken into account. Most visual novels become popular outside of Japan as a result of people enjoying their anime adaptations, so the fact that Steins;Gate's adaptation was generally ''very'' well received gave it a major advantage over Chaos;Head in terms of popularity. Also, since Steins;Gate is only connected to Chaos;Head in the first place due to them [[TheVerse taking place in the same world]], all of the [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]] made to Chaos;Head in Steins;Gate won't be understood by anyone unfamiliar with the former story, and you don't need to read Chaos;Head first in order to understand Steins;Gate at all, most Steins;Gate fans aren't even aware that the two stories are connected in the first place. Further hurting its accessibility is that, as a direct result of the sequel displacement, Steins;Gate is the only visual novel out of the two to have an ''official'' translation [[note]]there ''is'' allegedly one in progress for Chaos;Head right now by the same publisher, JAST, but it seems to be stuck in DevelopmentHell at the moment[[/note]].

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* VisualNovel/SteinsGate is a sequel to VisualNovel/ChaosHead that ended up being ''far'' more popular in the West than its predecessor is. In addition to Steins;Gate [[EvenBetterSequel largely being considered a better story overall]], one of the biggest reasons for Chaos;Head's comparative lack of popularity is that its anime adaptation was by and large [[AdaptationDecay considered to be subpar]], even without the source material taken into account. Most visual novels become popular outside of Japan as a result of people enjoying their anime adaptations, so the fact that Steins;Gate's adaptation was generally ''very'' well received gave it a major advantage over Chaos;Head in terms of popularity. Also, since Steins;Gate is only connected to Chaos;Head in the first place due to them [[TheVerse taking place in the same world]], all of the [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]] {{Continuity Nod}}s made to Chaos;Head in Steins;Gate won't be understood by anyone unfamiliar with the former story, and you don't need to read Chaos;Head first in order to understand Steins;Gate at all, most Steins;Gate fans aren't even aware that the two stories are connected in the first place. Further hurting its accessibility is that, as a direct result of the sequel displacement, Steins;Gate is the only visual novel out of the two to have an ''official'' translation [[note]]there ''is'' allegedly one in progress for Chaos;Head right now by the same publisher, JAST, but it seems to be stuck in DevelopmentHell at the moment[[/note]].



** This happened within one of the sub-series: ''{{VideoGame/Persona 3}}'' reworked all of the gameplay mechanics from the first two games, toned down some of the symbolism, and added a DatingSim mechanic, and both its and [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} its sequel's]] popularity have completely eclipsed even its mother franchise. ''{{VideoGame/Persona}}'' is probably a rare case of completely inverting FirstInstallmentWins; it's considered the worst of the series due to its clunky gameplay, with most of its memorability coming from its [[CutAndPasteTranslation horrible Americanized translation]]. And while ''{{VideoGame/Persona 2}}'' has recently revitalized interest (it helps that ''3'' and ''4'' have garnered massive [[BrokenBase Broken Bases]] recently due to all of the spinoffs they had gotten), it's still a cult hit at best, not helped that it was released oddly: ''Eternal Punishment,'' the second half of the duo logy, came to the U.S on the PSX with ''Innocent Sin'' never being exported, and no one could play the first half of the story until its PSP re-release ''eleven years later.''

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** This happened within one of the sub-series: ''{{VideoGame/Persona 3}}'' reworked all of the gameplay mechanics from the first two games, toned down some of the symbolism, and added a DatingSim mechanic, and both its and [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} its sequel's]] popularity have completely eclipsed even its mother franchise. ''{{VideoGame/Persona}}'' is probably a rare case of completely inverting FirstInstallmentWins; it's considered the worst of the series due to its clunky gameplay, with most of its memorability coming from its [[CutAndPasteTranslation horrible Americanized translation]]. And while ''{{VideoGame/Persona 2}}'' has recently revitalized interest (it helps that ''3'' and ''4'' have garnered massive [[BrokenBase Broken Bases]] {{Broken Base}}s recently due to all of the spinoffs they had gotten), it's still a cult hit at best, not helped that it was released oddly: ''Eternal Punishment,'' the second half of the duo logy, came to the U.S on the PSX with ''Innocent Sin'' never being exported, and no one could play the first half of the story until its PSP re-release ''eleven years later.''



* The ''VideoGame/GanbareGoemon'' series originally began with a Japan-only arcade game called ''Mr. Goemon'', from which the original [[NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]] game ''Ganbare Goemon'' was loosely based on as well. Some gamers even assume that the first {{S|uperNintendo}}NES game in the series, the one that came out in America as ''Legend of the Mystical Ninja'', was the first game in the series period.

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* The ''VideoGame/GanbareGoemon'' series originally began with a Japan-only arcade game called ''Mr. Goemon'', from which the original [[NintendoEntertainmentSystem [[UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]] game ''Ganbare Goemon'' was loosely based on as well. Some gamers even assume that the first {{S|uperNintendo}}NES UsefulNotes/{{S|uperNintendo}}NES game in the series, the one that came out in America as ''Legend of the Mystical Ninja'', was the first game in the series period.



** Granted, ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'' came after ''[=EarthBound=]'' became a CultClassic and was thus widely appreciated, even getting a fan translation two years after the fact, but [[VideoGame/{{MOTHER 1}} the original game]] for the [[NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]] still remains obscure, and even in Japan advertising for the CompilationRerelease ''MOTHER 1+2'' mostly focused on the latter game.
** Mother 1 was fully translated and ready to be released on the NES, but was cancelled because Nintendo didn't think it would be able to stand against other RPGs of the time with the American audience. This fear was vindicated in Summer 2015 when Nintendo released a barely-modified version of that NES translation on the WiiU virual console as ''Earthbound Beginnings". What sales it got mostly consisted of fans trying desperately to prove to Nintendo there was still interest in the series (and hopefully a translation of Mother 3), since most fans who wanted an English Mother 1 were already familiar with the superior Tomato Fan Translation and newcomers were turned off by grind-tastic and unbalanced gameplay that was dated even in it's intended release year of 1989. Even with the language barrier removed, Mother 1 was doomed to live in it's sequels' shadow.

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** Granted, ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'' came after ''[=EarthBound=]'' became a CultClassic and was thus widely appreciated, even getting a fan translation two years after the fact, but [[VideoGame/{{MOTHER 1}} the original game]] for the [[NintendoEntertainmentSystem [[UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]] still remains obscure, and even in Japan advertising for the CompilationRerelease ''MOTHER 1+2'' mostly focused on the latter game.
** Mother 1 was fully translated and ready to be released on the NES, but was cancelled because Nintendo didn't think it would be able to stand against other RPGs of the time with the American audience. This fear was vindicated in Summer 2015 when Nintendo released a barely-modified version of that NES translation on the WiiU virual virtual console as ''Earthbound Beginnings". What sales it got mostly consisted of fans trying desperately to prove to Nintendo there was still interest in the series (and hopefully a translation of Mother 3), since most fans who wanted an English Mother 1 were already familiar with the superior Tomato Fan Translation and newcomers were turned off by grind-tastic and unbalanced gameplay that was dated even in it's intended release year of 1989. Even with the language barrier removed, Mother 1 was doomed to live in it's sequels' shadow.



* So far, only three ''VideoGame/FireProWrestling'' games made it outside the Land of The Rising Sun: two for GameBoyAdvance ([[BadExportForYou heavily bastardized]]) and one for UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 (known as ''Fire Pro Wrestling Returns''), which is fairly more popular in the U.S. than any other game in the series. Like, about twenty of them, which are also available for such popular consoles as {{Super Nintendo|EntertainmentSystem}}, UsefulNotes/PlayStation, UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast and UsefulNotes/SegaSaturn.

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* So far, only three ''VideoGame/FireProWrestling'' games made it outside the Land of The Rising Sun: two for GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance ([[BadExportForYou heavily bastardized]]) and one for UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 (known as ''Fire Pro Wrestling Returns''), which is fairly more popular in the U.S. than any other game in the series. Like, about twenty of them, which are also available for such popular consoles as {{Super UsefulNotes/{{Super Nintendo|EntertainmentSystem}}, UsefulNotes/PlayStation, UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast and UsefulNotes/SegaSaturn.



* ''VideoGame/SonicRoboBlast2'', a popular 3D freeware game based on Sonic the Hedgehog. You want proof? The original ''Sonic Robo Blast'' game doesn't even have a page on ThisVeryWiki.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicRoboBlast2'', a popular 3D freeware game based on Sonic the Hedgehog. ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. You want proof? The original ''Sonic Robo Blast'' game doesn't even have a page on ThisVeryWiki.[[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} This Very Wiki]].



* ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' originally started as a fighting game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation called Sanguko Musou in Japan. When Dynasty Warriors 2 was released and introduced the Hack and Slash formula the series is now known for it was reintroduced as Shin Shanguko Musou while the west just kept Dynasty Warriors 2. Each installment in the series is now one number ahead of its Japanese counterpart even though it's the same game.

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* ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' originally started as a fighting game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation called Sanguko Musou in Japan. When Dynasty ''Dynasty Warriors 2 2'' was released and introduced the Hack and Slash formula the series is now known for it was reintroduced as Shin Shanguko Musou while the west just kept Dynasty ''Dynasty Warriors 2.2''. Each installment in the series is now one number ahead of its Japanese counterpart even though it's the same game.



* For younger generations, The the "Sands of Time" trilogy from Franchise/PrinceOfPersia displaces the previous games in a way that many of them refer ''VideoGame/PrinceOfPersiaWarriorWithin'' and VideoGame/PrinceOfPersiaTheTwoThrones as Prince of Persia 2 and 3 respectively. When VideoGame/PrinceOfPersia2008 was announced, there were many complains about the game not following the Sands of Time trilogy and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "not being a true POP"]] ignoring that those games already were ContinuityReboot of a series that started in 1989.
* ''Spectre VR'' is one of the most well-known games in the niche group of macintosh gamers. Almost none of them seem to own the original ''Spectre''. Even gamefaqs, who is quite well-known for showing obscure releases, has no page for the Macintosh version, although a page for the [[AdaptationDisplacement SNES version]] does exist.

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* For younger generations, The the "Sands of Time" trilogy from Franchise/PrinceOfPersia ''Franchise/PrinceOfPersia'' displaces the previous games in a way that many of them refer ''VideoGame/PrinceOfPersiaWarriorWithin'' and VideoGame/PrinceOfPersiaTheTwoThrones ''VideoGame/PrinceOfPersiaTheTwoThrones'' as Prince ''Prince of Persia 2 2'' and 3 ''3'' respectively. When VideoGame/PrinceOfPersia2008 ''VideoGame/PrinceOfPersia2008'' was announced, there were many complains about the game not following the Sands of Time trilogy and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "not being a true POP"]] ignoring that those games already were ContinuityReboot of a series that started in 1989.
* ''Spectre VR'' is one of the most well-known games in the niche group of macintosh Macintosh gamers. Almost none of them seem to own the original ''Spectre''. Even gamefaqs, Website/GameFAQs, who is quite well-known for showing obscure releases, has no page for the Macintosh version, although a page for the [[AdaptationDisplacement SNES version]] does exist.



** The first game to not fall under NoExportForYou, ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'', was actually the ''seventh'' in the series. Not only that, in an [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] of TheForeignSubtitle, it was released as simply ''Fire Emblem'' in the West, practically encouraging this. This caused some issues as ''Blazing Sword'' is a ''prequel'' to a game that never got released out of Japan, leaving a lot of players confused by what seemed to be a ton of [[SequelHook Sequel Hooks]] that were actually [[ForegoneConclusion Foregone Conclusions]] or [[CallForward Call Forwards]]. The fandom later discovered earlier games through FanTranslation, but ''Blazing Sword'' is still far more popular than its predecessor outside of Japan.

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** The first game to not fall under NoExportForYou, ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'', was actually the ''seventh'' in the series. Not only that, in an [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of TheForeignSubtitle, it was released as simply ''Fire Emblem'' in the West, practically encouraging this. This caused some issues as ''Blazing Sword'' is a ''prequel'' to a game that never got released out of Japan, leaving a lot of players confused by what seemed to be a ton of [[SequelHook Sequel Hooks]] {{Sequel Hook}}s that were actually [[ForegoneConclusion Foregone Conclusions]] {{Foregone Conclusion}}s or [[CallForward Call Forwards]].{{Call Forward}}s. The fandom later discovered earlier games through FanTranslation, but ''Blazing Sword'' is still far more popular than its predecessor outside of Japan.



* Hey, kids! Ever heard about "Unsound of Mind"? No? Well, how about HeartCore? In fact, many of the characters in HeartCore originated from UoM, wich has become the OldShame of the creator.

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* Hey, kids! Ever heard about "Unsound of Mind"? No? Well, how about HeartCore? ''Webcomic/{{Heartcore}}''? In fact, many of the characters in HeartCore ''Heartcore'' originated from UoM, wich has become the OldShame of the creator.



** In universe example: in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Bye Bye Nerdie", Millhouse comments that the present situation is, "like ''Film/{{Speed 2|CruiseControl}}'', but with a bus instead of a boat." He later refers to the new girl with no friends as being [[Film/{{Babe}} Babe: Pig in the City]].

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** In universe example: in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Bye Bye Nerdie", Millhouse comments that the present situation is, "like ''Film/{{Speed 2|CruiseControl}}'', but with a bus instead of a boat." He later refers to the new girl with no friends as being [[Film/{{Babe}} Babe: Pig in the City]].Film/BabePigInTheCity.



* The World Wide Web compared to {{Usenet}} and Gopher.

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* The World Wide Web compared to {{Usenet}} Website/{{Usenet}} and Gopher.



* Many tend to forget that [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] came after and was inspired by BenitoMussolini and [[FascistItaly his regime]], to the point Mussolini is often described as the ''protege'' of Hitler when Hitler actually started out as Mussolini's LoonyFan.

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* Many tend to forget that [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] came after and was inspired by BenitoMussolini UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini and [[FascistItaly [[UsefulNotes/FascistItaly his regime]], to the point Mussolini is often described as the ''protege'' of Hitler when Hitler actually started out as Mussolini's LoonyFan.
30th Jul '16 11:56:28 AM nombretomado
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* DanBrown's runaway success ''Literature/TheDaVinciCode'' was a sequel to the much less known ''Literature/AngelsAndDemons''. This was retroactively countered by publishers and filmmakers, who hoped to take advantage of lingering Dan Brown fever by snapping up ''Angels and Demons'' and marketing it aggressively. Most people probably think ''Angels and Demons'' is the sequel; certainly this is the case for the movie.

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* DanBrown's Creator/DanBrown's runaway success ''Literature/TheDaVinciCode'' was a sequel to the much less known ''Literature/AngelsAndDemons''. This was retroactively countered by publishers and filmmakers, who hoped to take advantage of lingering Dan Brown fever by snapping up ''Angels and Demons'' and marketing it aggressively. Most people probably think ''Angels and Demons'' is the sequel; certainly this is the case for the movie.
26th Jul '16 6:40:19 AM shuniya
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* ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is well-known amongst anime fans for {{re|construction}}starting the SuperRobotGenre to the HotBlooded days of yore and is one of the most popular HumongousMecha series out there. It also happens to be the ''eighth and last'' (not counting ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'' or the {{Vaporware}} ''Baan Gaan'') installment of the ''Brave'' series, while the first seven installments were only exported to the South and East Asian countries. Much of this is due to being the only show in the series to not only appear in the ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games, but the only one [[NoExportForYou released to Western countries]].

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* ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is well-known amongst anime fans for {{re|construction}}starting the SuperRobotGenre to the HotBlooded days of yore and is one of the most popular HumongousMecha series out there. It also happens to be the ''eighth and last'' (not counting ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'' or the {{Vaporware}} ''Baan Gaan'') installment of the ''Brave'' series, ''Anime/BraveSeries'', while the first seven installments were only exported to the South and East Asian countries. Much of this is due to being the only show in the series to not only appear in the ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games, but the only one [[NoExportForYou released to Western countries]].
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* ''Disney/TheThreeCaballeros'', despite usually being considered a one-off film, is actually the sequel to a film called ''Disney/SaludosAmigos''. Though in this case people can be forgiven in thinking that the sequel was a stand-alone film because the first movie wasn't shown in ''any'' capacity between its 1942 premiere and its 1995 limited edition Laserdisc release. Even after a much wider DVD release in 2000 it's still relatively unknown.
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* ''Disney/TheThreeCaballeros'', despite usually being considered a one-off film, is actually the sequel to a film called ''Disney/SaludosAmigos''. Though in this case people can be forgiven in thinking that the sequel was a stand-alone film because the first movie wasn't shown in ''any'' capacity between its 1942 premiere and its 1995 limited edition Laserdisc release. Even after a much wider DVD release in 2000 it's still relatively unknown.



* Two strange examples with ''Film/{{Troll 2}}'' and ''Film/SilentNightDeadlyNightPart2''. Both of these sequels are considered worse than the original movies, but have overshadowed them precisely ''because'' [[SoBadItsGood they're so bad and over-the-top]].

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* Two strange examples with ''Film/{{Troll 2}}'' ''Film/Troll2'' and ''Film/SilentNightDeadlyNightPart2''. Both of these sequels are considered worse than the original movies, but have overshadowed them precisely ''because'' [[SoBadItsGood they're so bad and over-the-top]].



* James Branch Cabell wrote 20-odd books set in his "Poictesme" universe. They were little-read until the 7th one, ''Jurgen'', appeared in 1919: that one inspired the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to attempt to prosecute Cabell for obscenity, naturally [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity giving the book great publicity]]. Afterwards Cabell went right back to obscurity. ''Jurgen'' is still by far the best known book in the series, although, in the author's own opinion and that of some fans, it's not the best. (One reprinted edition of his works gave a collection of pans from the critics... then after 1919 he issues book after book to be told that it was "not nearly as good as JURGEN.")
** Lampshaded in his later novel SMIRT, where the author AuthorAvatar protagonist talks God out of writing a sequel to the Bible, knowing how critics would treat it.

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* James Branch Cabell wrote 20-odd books set in his "Poictesme" universe. They were little-read until the 7th one, ''Jurgen'', appeared in 1919: that one inspired the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to attempt to prosecute Cabell for obscenity, naturally [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity giving the book great publicity]]. Afterwards Cabell went right back to obscurity. ''Jurgen'' is still by far the best known book in the series, although, in the author's own opinion and that of some fans, it's not the best. (One reprinted edition of his works gave a collection of pans from the critics... then after 1919 he issues book after book to be told that it was "not nearly as good as JURGEN.")
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") Lampshaded in his later novel SMIRT, where the author AuthorAvatar protagonist talks God out of writing a sequel to the Bible, knowing how critics would treat it.



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-->'''Harry''': There's a prequel!\\
'''Sally''': Well, who knew? This is going to answer so many questions about ''Arthur 2''.\\
'''Harry''': Yeah, like the "2".

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'''Sally''': '''Sally:''' Well, who knew? This is going to answer so many questions about ''Arthur 2''.\\
'''Harry''': '''Harry:''' Yeah, like the "2".



* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} is a good example, being far more popular outside the UK than TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} is, to the point where most people who are not into the tabletop gaming scene will refer to 40k simply as "Warhmammer," sometimes to the point of not even realizing that there is a medieval fantasy version.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' is a good example, being far more popular outside the UK than TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' is, to the point where most people who are not into the tabletop gaming scene will refer to 40k simply as "Warhmammer," "''Warhmammer''", sometimes to the point of not even realizing that there is a medieval fantasy version.



* A large majority of the ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' fanbase began with either ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonAWonderfulLife'', ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonFriendsOfMineralTown'', or their [[DistaffCounterpart female versions]]. The series began two gens before those titles. The [[VideoGame/HarvestMoonOriginalSeries original SNES title]] was largely forgotten until the Virtual Console re-release, ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon64'' is a prime example of [[MainstreamObscurity a game that everyone calls amazing but almost no one has played]] and is unlikely to be on Virtual Console due to hardware issues, ''Back To Nature'' is just seen as the 3D version of ''[=FOMT=]'', ''Save The Homeland'' is often ignored for being a black sheep, and the Game Boy games are seen as too watered down.

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* A large majority of the ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' fanbase began with either ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonAWonderfulLife'', ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonFriendsOfMineralTown'', or their [[DistaffCounterpart female versions]]. The series began two gens before those titles. The [[VideoGame/HarvestMoonOriginalSeries [[VideoGame/HarvestMoon1 original SNES title]] was largely forgotten until the Virtual Console re-release, ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon64'' is a prime example of [[MainstreamObscurity a game that everyone calls amazing but almost no one has played]] and is unlikely to be on Virtual Console due to hardware issues, ''Back To Nature'' is just seen as the 3D version of ''[=FOMT=]'', ''Save The Homeland'' is often ignored for being a black sheep, and the Game Boy games are seen as too watered down.



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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'': The original series had several false starts in the U.S. Harmony Gold took a crack at it with a [[{{Macekre}} drastically altered dub]] in the late '80s, though this was quickly cancelled. Later, U.S. licensee Creator/{{FUNimation}} bought the rights to the entire animated canon at once with plans of selling the entire thing to syndication, starting with the first series. It flopped so hard, they stopped production after only 13 episodes and skipped ahead to the more action-oriented sequel series. The rest, as they say, is history.
** This isn't exclusive to the USA. ''Z'' is more popular everywhere, no matter what some say. Even in Japan, where most {{meme|ticMutation}}s and {{shout out}}s come from ''Z''.

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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'': The original series had several false starts in the U.S. Harmony Gold took a crack at it with a [[{{Macekre}} drastically altered dub]] in the late '80s, though this was quickly cancelled. Later, U.S. licensee Creator/{{FUNimation}} bought the rights to the entire animated canon at once with plans of selling the entire thing to syndication, starting with the first series. It flopped so hard, they stopped production after only 13 episodes and skipped ahead to the more action-oriented sequel series. The rest, as they say, is history.
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history. This isn't exclusive to the USA. ''Z'' is more popular everywhere, no matter what some say. Even in Japan, where most {{meme|ticMutation}}s and {{shout out}}s come from ''Z''.



* Outside of Japan this occured to ''Anime/OsomatsuSan''. It's a sequel series to the classic series ''Anime/OsomatsuKun'' meant to be a [[MilestoneCelebration anniversary anime]] and ended up a StealthHit both internationally and in Japan. Most countries didn't [[NoExportForYou get exports]] of any ''Osomatsu-kun'' series until after ''Osomatsu-san'', and even if they did it's unlikely most fans remember it as much as Japanese viewers. The first episode makes it clear that the series is a sequel however many non-Japanese fans simply think they're making fun of 1960s anime in general. Many jokes go over peoples heads because they aren't acquainted with the older series (''Osomatsu-san'' is essentially what ''Theatre/DogSeeGod'' is to ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''--a sequel of a family friendly work where everyone is older and the jokes are more adult oriented).

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* Outside of Japan this occured to ''Anime/OsomatsuSan''. It's a sequel series to the classic series ''Anime/OsomatsuKun'' meant to be a [[MilestoneCelebration anniversary anime]] celebrate the mangaka's 80th birthday]] and ended up a StealthHit SleeperHit both internationally and in Japan. Most countries didn't [[NoExportForYou get exports]] of any ''Osomatsu-kun'' series [[SequelFirst until after after]] ''Osomatsu-san'', and even if they did it's unlikely most fans remember it as much as Japanese viewers. The first episode makes it clear that the series is a sequel however many non-Japanese fans simply think they're making fun of 1960s anime in general. Many jokes go over peoples heads because they aren't acquainted with the older series (''Osomatsu-san'' is essentially what ''Theatre/DogSeeGod'' ''Theatre/DogSeesGod'' is to ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''--a sequel of a family friendly work where everyone is older and the jokes are more adult oriented).
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* ''Anime/TekkamanBlade'' (a.k.a. ''Teknoman''): Many people are not aware that it was a sequel of an earlier Tatsunoko anime, ''Anime/{{Tekkaman}}''. It doesn't help that ''Tekkaman Blade'' is barely a sequel, much less a remake.
** The presence of ''both'' in ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'' should help remedy this. Blade is still more popular, but the original now has [[MemeticMutation SPACE LANCE]] for people to remember him for...

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* ''Anime/TekkamanBlade'' (a.k.a. ''Teknoman''): Many people are not aware that it was a sequel of an earlier Tatsunoko anime, ''Anime/{{Tekkaman}}''. It doesn't help that ''Tekkaman Blade'' is barely a sequel, much less a remake.
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remake. The presence of ''both'' in ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'' should help remedy this. Blade is still more popular, but the original now has [[MemeticMutation SPACE LANCE]] for people to remember him for...


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* Outside of Japan this occured to ''Anime/OsomatsuSan''. It's a sequel series to the classic series ''Anime/OsomatsuKun'' meant to be a [[MilestoneCelebration anniversary anime]] and ended up a StealthHit both internationally and in Japan. Most countries didn't [[NoExportForYou get exports]] of any ''Osomatsu-kun'' series until after ''Osomatsu-san'', and even if they did it's unlikely most fans remember it as much as Japanese viewers. The first episode makes it clear that the series is a sequel however many non-Japanese fans simply think they're making fun of 1960s anime in general. Many jokes go over peoples heads because they aren't acquainted with the older series (''Osomatsu-san'' is essentially what ''Theatre/DogSeeGod'' is to ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''--a sequel of a family friendly work where everyone is older and the jokes are more adult oriented).
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* The ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series didn't achieve much in the way of mainstream popularity until ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' was released for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. This is mainly because the original {{MSX}}2 version of ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' only saw an official English release for the European market, while ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]'' was [[NoExportForYou released exclusively in Japan]]. The series did have some prior exposure in North America in the form of a NintendoEntertainmentSystem port of the first game (a ReformulatedGame rather than a straight port), as well as an NES-exclusive sequel titled ''[[VideoGame/SnakesRevenge Snake's Revenge]]'' that has no connection to anything that happens afterward.

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* The ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series didn't achieve much in the way of mainstream popularity until ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' was released for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. This is was mainly because due to the original {{MSX}}2 version of ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' only saw an official English release for fact that the European market, while ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]'' was [[NoExportForYou released exclusively in Japan]]. The series did have some prior exposure [=MSX2=] (where the first two games were released) never took off as a platform in North America in the form of a NintendoEntertainmentSystem port of and only the first game (a ReformulatedGame rather than a straight port), as well as was released in Europe. The original ''Metal Gear'' did receive an NES-exclusive [=NES=] version that was released worldwide though, and while this version was [[ReformulatedGame drastically different]] from the MSX original (to the point that series' creator Creator/HideoKojima disowns it), it was successful enough to spawn its stand-alone western-exclusive sequel titled ''[[VideoGame/SnakesRevenge Snake's Revenge]]'' that has no connection ''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'' (unrelated to anything that happens afterward. the actual canon sequel, ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'').
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** The video game adaptations have it even worse: first a Dreamcast fighting game based on 3, then a cel-shaded PS2 3D action game based on 5, and a beat 'em up based on 1.

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** The video game adaptations have it even worse: first a Dreamcast fighting game based on 3, then a cel-shaded PS2 [=PS2=] 3D action game based on 5, and a beat 'em up based on 1.
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