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15th Jun '18 3:56:58 AM Veanne
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** Many fundamentalists of all religions do this.

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** Many fundamentalists of all religions do this. Which is, come to think of it, counterproductive - miracle is simply God deciding to override the rules of the Universe for a moment, and a "scientific explanation" requires these rules to bend in weird, improbable ways on their own accord.
1st Jun '18 2:49:11 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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... But don't pat yourself on the back just yet, Scully. If you think about it for more than five seconds, there's a lot that the seemingly "rational" explanation doesn't actually explain at all, or which itself requires increasingly convoluted and improbable further explanations. For instance, how and where does one even get enough marshmallow to make a 50-foot marshmallow man? How and where does one make said marshmallow man, and hide it away from everyone until the absolute right moment? How do you get it to move and act convincingly -- or move ''at all'', for that matter? How do they set up their 'light show' at the building without anyone noticing? It steps on a church at one point -- how do you stage that? In fact, the opening of the portal creates earthquakes, lightning storms and unseasonal instantaneous storm clouds -- how do the Ghostbusters create earthquakes and ''control the weather''? How does one spread enough hallucinogens to dose an an entire city without anyone noticing, and then manage to ensure that everyone has the same hallucination? And ultimately, even if you could do all of this it would all take a lot of effort, and you'd probably need a lot of people to help you do it (all of whom will have to have some kind of motivation to keep quiet -- such as as a lot of money), and the Ghostbusters are just four guys -- how did they manage to do this all by themselves ''without involving anyone else whatsoever''?

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... But don't pat yourself on the back just yet, Scully. If you think about it for more than five seconds, there's a lot that the seemingly "rational" explanation doesn't actually explain at all, or which itself requires increasingly convoluted and improbable further explanations. For instance, how and where does one even get enough marshmallow to make a 50-foot marshmallow man? How and where does one make said marshmallow man, and hide it away from everyone until the absolute right moment? How do you get it to move and act convincingly -- or move ''at all'', for that matter? How do they set up their 'light show' "light show" at the building without anyone noticing? It steps on a church at one point -- how do you stage that? In fact, the opening of the portal creates earthquakes, lightning storms and unseasonal instantaneous storm clouds -- how do the Ghostbusters create earthquakes and ''control the weather''? How does one spread enough hallucinogens to dose an an entire city without anyone noticing, and then manage to ensure that everyone has the same hallucination? And ultimately, even if you could do all of this it would all take a lot of effort, and you'd probably need a lot of people to help you do it (all of whom will have to have some kind of motivation to keep quiet -- such as as a lot of money), and the Ghostbusters are just four guys -- how did they manage to do this all by themselves ''without involving anyone else whatsoever''?
1st Jun '18 2:48:16 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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A case of WeirdnessCensor wherein a character, attempting to offer a so-called 'rational' explanation for a supernatural or unlikely situation, ends up offering an explanation that is itself so tortuous, convoluted and[=/=]or improbable that it also ceases to be rational. Although it may draw upon things that are seemingly more plausible and 'real' than the supernatural explanation, the way it puts them together is unlikely or full of holes and the EpilepticTrees invoked by the characters (who, ironically, are usually trying to ''debunk'' someone else's EpilepticTrees) so ludicrous that the viewers want to bash their heads against the wall and point out that accepting the (super)natural reality would, in fact, be [[OccamsRazor simpler]]. They also have a tendency to ignore any evidence of the supernatural that they might be presented with, no matter how conclusive, in favour of presenting more 'rational' explanations that are themselves just as (if not more) lacking in supporting evidence.

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A case of WeirdnessCensor wherein a character, attempting to offer a so-called 'rational' "rational" explanation for a supernatural or unlikely situation, ends up offering an explanation that is itself so tortuous, convoluted and[=/=]or improbable that it also ceases to be rational. Although it may draw upon things that are seemingly more plausible and 'real' than the supernatural explanation, the way it puts them together is unlikely or full of holes and the EpilepticTrees invoked by the characters (who, ironically, are usually trying to ''debunk'' someone else's EpilepticTrees) so ludicrous that the viewers want to bash their heads against the wall and point out that accepting the (super)natural reality would, in fact, be [[OccamsRazor simpler]]. They also have a tendency to ignore any evidence of the supernatural that they might be presented with, no matter how conclusive, in favour of presenting more 'rational' explanations that are themselves just as (if not more) lacking in supporting evidence.



... But don't pat yourself on the back just yet, Scully. If you think about it for more than five seconds, there's a lot that the seemingly 'rational' explanation doesn't actually explain at all, or which itself requires increasingly convoluted and improbable further explanations. For instance, how and where does one even get enough marshmallow to make a 50-foot marshmallow man? How and where does one make said marshmallow man, and hide it away from everyone until the absolute right moment? How do you get it to move and act convincingly -- or move ''at all'', for that matter? How do they set up their 'light show' at the building without anyone noticing? It steps on a church at one point -- how do you stage that? In fact, the opening of the portal creates earthquakes, lightning storms and unseasonal instantaneous storm clouds -- how do the Ghostbusters create earthquakes and ''control the weather''? How does one spread enough hallucinogens to dose an an entire city without anyone noticing, and then manage to ensure that everyone has the same hallucination? And ultimately, even if you could do all of this it would all take a lot of effort, and you'd probably need a lot of people to help you do it (all of whom will have to have some kind of motivation to keep quiet -- such as as a lot of money), and the Ghostbusters are just four guys -- how did they manage to do this all by themselves ''without involving anyone else whatsoever''?

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... But don't pat yourself on the back just yet, Scully. If you think about it for more than five seconds, there's a lot that the seemingly 'rational' "rational" explanation doesn't actually explain at all, or which itself requires increasingly convoluted and improbable further explanations. For instance, how and where does one even get enough marshmallow to make a 50-foot marshmallow man? How and where does one make said marshmallow man, and hide it away from everyone until the absolute right moment? How do you get it to move and act convincingly -- or move ''at all'', for that matter? How do they set up their 'light show' at the building without anyone noticing? It steps on a church at one point -- how do you stage that? In fact, the opening of the portal creates earthquakes, lightning storms and unseasonal instantaneous storm clouds -- how do the Ghostbusters create earthquakes and ''control the weather''? How does one spread enough hallucinogens to dose an an entire city without anyone noticing, and then manage to ensure that everyone has the same hallucination? And ultimately, even if you could do all of this it would all take a lot of effort, and you'd probably need a lot of people to help you do it (all of whom will have to have some kind of motivation to keep quiet -- such as as a lot of money), and the Ghostbusters are just four guys -- how did they manage to do this all by themselves ''without involving anyone else whatsoever''?
29th May '18 1:23:48 PM Smoker130
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* ''Anime/YokuWakaruGendaiMahou'' Souishirou. Despite his big sister being a mage, and the fact that people arround him get involved in all sorts of magical troubles, he remain firmly skceptical. Even when he see magic performed right in front of his own eyes, he insist that it is just a trick. [[spoiler:Magic have absolutely no effect on him, because his sister unknowingly made him invulnerable to it when he was a child.]]

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* ''Anime/YokuWakaruGendaiMahou'' ''Anime/YokuWakaruGendaiMahou'': Souishirou. Despite his big sister being a mage, and the fact that people arround him get involved in all sorts of magical troubles, he remain firmly skceptical. Even when he see magic performed right in front of his own eyes, he insist that it is just a trick. [[spoiler:Magic have absolutely no effect on him, because his sister unknowingly made him invulnerable to it when he was a child.]]
29th May '18 1:22:45 PM Smoker130
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* ''Anime/YokuWakaruGendaiMahou'' Souishirou. Despite his big sister being a mage, and the fact that people arround him get involved in all sorts of magical troubles, he remain firmly skceptical. Even when he see magic performed right in front of his own eyes, he insist that it is just a trick. [[spoiler:Magic have absolutely no effect on him, because his sister unknowingly made him invulnerable to it when he was a child.]]
11th May '18 12:36:47 AM Praxeolitic
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* "Adding epicycles" is an expression for adding ad-hoc and unreasonable complexities to a theory in order to make it consistent new observations. The basis of the phrase is historical attempts to make geocentrism consistent with the observed movements of the planets by proposing that they orbit around Earth in paths with inner loops or "epicycles". Heliocentrism is a much simpler explanation.
12th Aug '17 4:56:50 AM Nazetrime
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* ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'': In the comic's world, FlatEarthAtheist is the default mindset in Sweden and Denmark and the head of the expedition's MissionControl is Swedish. The story reaches a point where the Finnish mage staying at headquarters has to help the expedition crew long-distance in the middle of the night, which results in a PowerStrainBlackout and huge burn marks on the floor of the room in which he was casting. The following chapter reveals mission control head to have come to the following conclusion that the mage got hit by lightning while inside the house, on a night giving no indication of being stormy.

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* ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'': In the comic's world, FlatEarthAtheist is the default mindset in Sweden and Denmark and the head of the expedition's MissionControl is Swedish. The story reaches a point where the Finnish mage staying at headquarters has to help the expedition crew long-distance in the middle of the night, which results in a PowerStrainBlackout and huge burn marks on the floor of the room in which he was casting. The following chapter reveals the mission control head to have come to the following conclusion that the mage got hit by lightning while inside the house, on a night giving no indication of being stormy.
12th Aug '17 4:54:42 AM Nazetrime
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* ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'': In the comic's world, FlatEarthAtheist is the default mindset in Sweden and Denmark and the head of the expedition's MissionControl is Swedish. The story reaches a point where the Finnish mage staying at headquarters has to help the expedition crew long-distance in the middle of the night, which results in a PowerStrainBlackout and huge burn marks on the floor of the room in which he was casting. The following chapter reveals mission control head to have come to the following conclusion that the mage got hit by lightning while inside the house, on a night giving no indication of being stormy.
14th Jul '17 2:44:55 AM DoctorNemesis
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A case of WeirdnessCensor wherein a character, attempting to offer a so-called 'rational' explanation for a supernatural or unlikely situation, ends up offering an explanation that is itself so tortuous, convoluted and[=/=]or improbable that it also ceases to be rational. Although it may draw upon things that are seemingly more plausible and 'real' than the supernatural explanation, the way it puts them together is unlikely or full of holes and the EpilepticTrees invoked by the characters (who, ironically, are usually trying to ''debunk'' someone else's EpilepticTrees) so ludicrous that the viewers want to bash their heads against the wall and point out that accepting the (super)natural reality would, in fact, be [[OccamsRazor simpler]].

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A case of WeirdnessCensor wherein a character, attempting to offer a so-called 'rational' explanation for a supernatural or unlikely situation, ends up offering an explanation that is itself so tortuous, convoluted and[=/=]or improbable that it also ceases to be rational. Although it may draw upon things that are seemingly more plausible and 'real' than the supernatural explanation, the way it puts them together is unlikely or full of holes and the EpilepticTrees invoked by the characters (who, ironically, are usually trying to ''debunk'' someone else's EpilepticTrees) so ludicrous that the viewers want to bash their heads against the wall and point out that accepting the (super)natural reality would, in fact, be [[OccamsRazor simpler]].
simpler]]. They also have a tendency to ignore any evidence of the supernatural that they might be presented with, no matter how conclusive, in favour of presenting more 'rational' explanations that are themselves just as (if not more) lacking in supporting evidence.



In short, however incredible it may seem, isn't the explanation that this is a god taking on the form of a marshmallow man to destroy the world actually the simpler and more rational explanation at this point?

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In short, however incredible it may seem, isn't the explanation that this is a god taking on the form of a marshmallow man to destroy the world actually the simpler and simpler, more rational and more supported-with-evidence explanation at this point?
6th Jun '17 9:29:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* A major RunningGag of ''TheUnspeakableVaultOfDoom'' is that the human characters, when faced with the lampooned [[Creator/HPLovecraft Lovecraftian]] star of the series, give an even more ludicrous explanation for what they saw or heard than the obvious [[CosmicHorror alien-gods-of-madness]] explanation.

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* A major RunningGag of ''TheUnspeakableVaultOfDoom'' ''Webcomic/TheUnspeakableVaultOfDoom'' is that the human characters, when faced with the lampooned [[Creator/HPLovecraft Lovecraftian]] star of the series, give an even more ludicrous explanation for what they saw or heard than the obvious [[CosmicHorror alien-gods-of-madness]] explanation.
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