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9th Dec '16 10:49:13 PM iroanxi
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* In ''FanFic/ThisBites'', this is played right into the ground during the Davy Back Fight, especially Cross's insistence that Soundbite and Lassoo are full-fledged crew members so that Foxy can't get all three of them in the same round.
9th Dec '16 5:04:41 PM Specialist290
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* Obviously, ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. People are fond of finding incredibly powerful abilities and combos that would allow them to create practically unbeatable characters. Two which stand out as blatant loophole exploitations are [[http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19869366/The_most_powerful_character._EVER Pun-Pun]], a kobold that literally ascends to capital G, Godhood at 1st level; and the [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/856019/#856461 Locate City Bomb]], a questionable combination of metamagic feats from a few different splatbooks that turns a simple navigation spell into the 3.5 equivalent of a KillSat.

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* Obviously, ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. People are fond of finding incredibly powerful abilities and combos that would allow them to create practically unbeatable characters. Two which stand out as blatant loophole exploitations are [[http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19869366/The_most_powerful_character._EVER [[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Pun-Pun_(3.5e_Optimized_Character_Build) Pun-Pun]], a kobold that literally ascends to capital G, Godhood at 1st level; and the [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/856019/#856461 Locate City Bomb]], a questionable combination of metamagic feats from a few different splatbooks that turns a simple navigation spell into the 3.5 equivalent of a KillSat.
3rd Dec '16 9:30:23 AM elemt
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** A rather famous (though not particularly serious and now outdated) bit of rules-lawyering is the "Villager Railgun", which abuses the mechanics behind "free actions". Basically, a free action is any action which takes so little time/effort, it can be done virtually instantaneously - examples include gestures, dropping items, and, of course, [[TalkingIsAFreeAction talking.]] Free actions are, well, free - a character can use any number of them, even if it's not their turn. Older editions allowed characters to pass suitably light objects to someone standing right next to them as a free action. Players with a working knowledge of physics quickly stumbled upon a loophole - line up a few thousand villagers in a straight line, all standing right next to each other, with one end of the line next to a pile of light objects and the other close to the designated target. Have the villager on one end of the line pick up a light object and, on the "firing" turn, have them pass it to the next person in line as a free action. Then have that person pass it to the next person as a free action. Repeat until it reaches the other end of the line, at which point the receiver throws it at his target. Physics indicates that the object just travelled several thousand metres in less than six seconds (the length of a round in D&D), giving it enough kinetic energy to destroy pretty much anything it's thrown at.

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** A rather famous (though not particularly serious and now outdated) bit of rules-lawyering is the "Villager Railgun", which abuses the mechanics behind "free actions". Basically, a free action is any action which takes so little time/effort, it can be done virtually instantaneously - examples include gestures, dropping items, and, of course, [[TalkingIsAFreeAction talking.]] Free actions are, well, free - a character can use any number of them, even if it's not their turn. Older editions allowed characters to pass suitably light objects to someone standing right next to them as a free action. Players with a working knowledge of physics quickly stumbled upon a loophole - line up a few thousand villagers in a straight line, all standing right next to each other, with one end of the line next to a pile of light objects and the other close to the designated target. Have the villager on one end of the line pick up a light object and, on the "firing" turn, have them pass it to the next person in line as a free action. Then have that person pass it to the next person as a free action. Repeat until it reaches the other end of the line, at which point the receiver throws it at his target. Physics indicates that the object just travelled several thousand metres in less than six seconds (the length of a round in D&D), giving it enough kinetic energy to destroy pretty much anything it's thrown at.at (Although by the actual rules, it will only deal 1 or 2 damage - the trick relies on real world physics being applied selectively in a very specific and nonsensical manner).
30th Nov '16 2:34:45 PM Trevorg2000
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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': undyingUmbrage manages to "beat" his sister uranianUmbra at chess by [[spoiler: putting a set of decorative crowns on his king and queen so that they looked like each other, even going so far as to play both pieces as kings and to ask to have their starting positions swapped. There's no rule against decorating one's pieces - which is good for uranianUmbra, because she apparently does it all the time.]]

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': undyingUmbrage undyingUmbrage/[[spoiler:Caliborn]] manages to "beat" his sister uranianUmbra uranianUmbra/[[spoiler:Calliope]] at chess by [[spoiler: putting a set of decorative crowns on his king and queen so that they looked like each other, even going so far as to play both pieces as kings and to ask to have their starting positions swapped. There's no rule against decorating one's pieces - which is good for uranianUmbra, because she apparently does it all the time.]]
26th Nov '16 3:07:29 PM nombretomado
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* An early edition of ''{{Champions}}'' had a section titled "Are you a powergamer?" featuring characters who bent the rules into a Gordian knot. Some examples included:

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* An early edition of ''{{Champions}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' had a section titled "Are you a powergamer?" featuring characters who bent the rules into a Gordian knot. Some examples included:
26th Nov '16 9:14:31 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lewis in ''FullFrontalNerdity''. Nelson technically does this a lot more than Lewis does, [[TheChessmaster but tends not to do the 'assumption' part and instead water-proofs most of his acts from DM (and other players') intervention beforehand]].

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* Lewis in ''FullFrontalNerdity''.''Webcomic/FullFrontalNerdity''. Nelson technically does this a lot more than Lewis does, [[TheChessmaster but tends not to do the 'assumption' part and instead water-proofs most of his acts from DM (and other players') intervention beforehand]].



* Repeatedly in ''TheWaterPhoenixKing'' -- justified in that one of the heroes ''is'' a lawyer, and the story largely hinges on questions of rightful authority and jurisdiction, which means Bureaucracy. It's still hilarious every time it happens. (Especially when it's in the middle of a battle with a cyborg.)

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* Repeatedly in ''TheWaterPhoenixKing'' ''Webcomic/TheWaterPhoenixKing'' -- justified in that one of the heroes ''is'' a lawyer, and the story largely hinges on questions of rightful authority and jurisdiction, which means Bureaucracy. It's still hilarious every time it happens. (Especially when it's in the middle of a battle with a cyborg.)
20th Nov '16 8:44:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* There's a saying among players of ''StarFleetBattles'': "Legal Officer, report to the bridge!" The fact that the rulebook is the size of the Manhattan phone directory doesn't help. Players have been spotted with buttons reading "Scotty, I need a rule in five minutes or we're all dead!" (From ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'', suitably tweaked).

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* There's a saying among players of ''StarFleetBattles'': ''TabletopGame/StarFleetBattles'': "Legal Officer, report to the bridge!" The fact that the rulebook is the size of the Manhattan phone directory doesn't help. Players have been spotted with buttons reading "Scotty, I need a rule in five minutes or we're all dead!" (From ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'', suitably tweaked).



* ''WarhammerFantasy'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'':

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* ''WarhammerFantasy'' ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'':
18th Nov '16 12:16:07 PM Edvardelis
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** Another amusing example is the "Chicken Infested" flaw. Only available to Commoners, it gives you a 50% chance to pull out a chicken from a container. Pulling things out is a free action. Can you say instant infinite chickens?

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** Another amusing example is the "Chicken Infested" flaw. Only available to Commoners, it gives you a 50% chance to pull out a chicken from a container. Pulling things out of a spell pouch is a free action. Can you say instant infinite chickens?
18th Nov '16 12:14:31 PM Edvardelis
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** Another amusing example is the "Chicken Infested" flaw. Only available to Commoners, it gives you a 50% chance to pull out a chicken from a container. Pulling things out is a free action. Can you say instant infinite chickens?
10th Nov '16 9:36:45 AM toolenduso
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* In the episode "Chardee Macdennis" on ''Series/{{It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia}}'', Frank becomes a Rules Lawyer for the episode's eponymous game after being trapped in a dog kennel with the rule book. He later uses it to catch Dennis and Dee cheating, giving Mac and Charlie their best-ever chance of winning the game. [[spoiler: In a cruel twist of fate, Dennis and Dee win anyway]].

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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'': In the episode "Chardee Macdennis" on ''Series/{{It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia}}'', Macdennis", Frank becomes a Rules Lawyer for the episode's eponymous game after being trapped in a dog kennel with the rule book. He later uses it to catch Dennis and Dee cheating, giving Mac and Charlie their best-ever chance of winning the game. [[spoiler: In a cruel twist of fate, Dennis and Dee win anyway]].
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