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28th Mar '17 1:28:56 PM AthenaBlue
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* The Prentiss family in ''Film/TheManchurianCandidate'' (known in the novel as Iselin). The novel alludes pretty frankly to [[spoiler:incest between Eleanor and her father Tyler]], and relates with equal candor at least one instance of same between [[spoiler:Eleanor and her son Raymond. While he's under mind control, no less.]] All three are driven, passionate patriots working at high levels of office -- Tyler was a diplomat, Eleanor is a Senator and Raymond is a Representative running for Vice President. Over the course of his campaign it is revealed that his mother [[spoiler:has been involved for many years in a conspiracy which began with the Congressional Medal of Honor and ends with an assassination attempt on the president-elect and, ultimately, the deaths of both Raymond and Eleanor]].



* The Prentiss family in ''Film/TheManchurianCandidate'' (known in the novel as Iselin). The novel alludes pretty frankly to [[spoiler:incest between Eleanor and her father Tyler]], and relates with equal candor at least one instance of same between [[spoiler:Eleanor and her son Raymond. While he's under mind control, no less.]] All three are driven, passionate patriots working at high levels of office -- Tyler was a diplomat, Eleanor is a Senator and Raymond is a Representative running for Vice President. Over the course of his campaign it is revealed that his mother [[spoiler:has been involved for many years in a conspiracy which began with the Congressional Medal of Honor and ends with an assassination attempt on the president-elect and, ultimately, the deaths of both Raymond and Eleanor]].



** Interestingly, the position of Emperor does not seem to be connected to any individual line for more than a few generations; it appears to be totally normal for the Centauri nobles to hand the throne to a new House even though the old imperial house still exists ([[spoiler:Londo rules as Mollari II, as one of his ancestors had held the throne once]]). This presumably means that Cartagia's madness was a relatively rare occurrence in his House--rather as the Julio-Claudians only had two Emperors who could be called insane (Caligula and Nero), only one of whom (Caligula) was ''totally'' bonkers (Nero, while an awful ruler, was not ''totally'' incompetent).
* One episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' strongly implies that eventually the British Royal family might become werewolves. However at the time Victoria had already had all her children, so hopefully it isn't canon.
* Referenced in the ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode ''Rimmerworld''. Kryten explains the problem of having an entire society descended from Rimmer [[spoiler:and his clones]] by drawing comparisons with European monarchies of the 19th and 20th centuries. The actual leader of the planet seems to be an example himself.
* A lot of tension surrounding the SuccessionCrisis in ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' is based on this trope. It's revealed in series three that the Pendragon men have a history of mental illness, one which King Uther ultimately succumbs to after his [[spoiler:arguably AxCrazy illegitimate daughter]] betrays him and takes the throne.

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** Interestingly, the position of Emperor does not seem to be connected to any individual line for more than a few generations; it appears to be totally normal for the Centauri nobles to hand the throne to a new House even though the old imperial house still exists ([[spoiler:Londo rules as Mollari II, as one of his ancestors had held the throne once]]). This presumably means that Cartagia's madness was a relatively rare occurrence in his House--rather House -- rather as the Julio-Claudians only had two Emperors who could be called insane (Caligula and Nero), only one of whom (Caligula) was ''totally'' bonkers (Nero, while an awful ruler, was not ''totally'' incompetent).
* One episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'': [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E2ToothAndClaw "Tooth and Claw"]] strongly implies that eventually the British Royal family might become werewolves. However at the time Victoria had already had all her children, so hopefully it isn't canon.
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* A lot of tension surrounding the SuccessionCrisis in ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' is based on this trope. It's revealed in series three that the Pendragon men have
UsefulNotes/HMTheQueen, so it was clearly a history of mental illness, one which King Uther ultimately succumbs to after his [[spoiler:arguably AxCrazy illegitimate daughter]] betrays him and takes the throne.joke.



* A lot of tension surrounding the SuccessionCrisis in ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' is based on this trope. It's revealed in series three that the Pendragon men have a history of mental illness, one which King Uther ultimately succumbs to after his [[spoiler:arguably AxCrazy illegitimate daughter]] betrays him and takes the throne.



* Referenced in the ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode ''Rimmerworld''. Kryten explains the problem of having an entire society descended from Rimmer [[spoiler:and his clones]] by drawing comparisons with European monarchies of the 19th and 20th centuries. The actual leader of the planet seems to be an example himself.



* Princess Sara in ''[[Webcomic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'' is smart, sexy, and sane enough to fully realize her father is a CloudCuckooLander with genocidal tendencies. Naturally, she doesn't hold much stock in hereditary rule. She's still a rude, shrewish sociopath, though, and engineered her own kidnapping.
** How bad it is: No matter what horrible evils she unleashes on the populace when she comes into power, it will look like a golden age compared to the completely ruinous and unhinged chain of decisions King Steve makes every day, simply because she's not enough of an idiot to be capable of the same levels of casual destruction.
*** It's even worse than that: King Steve boasted a 52% approval rating. He got this by having pollsters ask which would they prefer: Having Steve as their king or taking a sword to the head. 48% of his subjects chose execution (And received it).
* The Masters Royal Family of ''[[http://chesspiece.smackjeeves.com Chess Piece]]'' are said to be cursed. Luckily, it skipped a generation. Unluckily, the current Prince has seriously planned on ''taking over the world'' since he was ''four''.



--->'''Vole''': De pipple of Mechanicsburg would '''not''' ekcept dot [killing Castle Heterodyne] as proof dot she iz a Heterodyne...not unless she danced nekked though de ruins vile trying to shoot down de moon--turned all de tourists into monsters--and den built a very dangerous fountain out of sausages.

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--->'''Vole''': --->'''Vole:''' De pipple of Mechanicsburg would '''not''' ekcept dot [killing Castle Heterodyne] as proof dot she iz a Heterodyne...Heterodyne ... not unless she danced nekked though de ruins vile trying to shoot down de moon--turned moon -- turned all de tourists into monsters--and monsters -- and den built a very dangerous fountain out of sausages.



* Princess Sara in ''[[Webcomic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'' is smart, sexy, and sane enough to fully realize her father is a CloudCuckooLander with genocidal tendencies. Naturally, she doesn't hold much stock in hereditary rule. She's still a rude, shrewish sociopath, though, and engineered her own kidnapping.
** How bad it is: No matter what horrible evils she unleashes on the populace when she comes into power, it will look like a golden age compared to the completely ruinous and unhinged chain of decisions King Steve makes every day, simply because she's not enough of an idiot to be capable of the same levels of casual destruction.
*** It's even worse than that: King Steve boasted a 52% approval rating. He got this by having pollsters ask which would they prefer: Having Steve as their king or taking a sword to the head. 48% of his subjects chose execution (And received it).
* The Masters Royal Family of [[http://chesspiece.smackjeeves.com Chess Piece]] are said to be cursed. Luckily, it skipped a generation. Unluckily, the current Prince has seriously planned on ''taking over the world'' since he was ''four''.



* The Oldenburg dynasty in Denmark, beginning with Christian I, deserves some notes here. Most of the kings were fairly sensible at best, and dimwitted at worst, known to screw up badly in foreign affairs. Then,[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VII_of_Denmark Christian VII]] came along. He suffered from mental illness, and had to rule by proxy for long periods of time. Christian suffered from hallucinations and paranoia, and his reign coincided with that of English George III (mentally ill kings were somewhat fashionable at this time). His illness led to the infamous ''Struensee affair'', when the King´s physician took the helm in his name and turned out to be the most sensible ruler Denmark had had for decades, until he was toppled in a coup and executed. His son, Frederick VI, had to rule in his name from that point and onwards, and is known for having messed up big time when he eventually became king. This because he was the unlucky bastard who had to steer Denmark through the NapoleonicWars, and screwed up enough to be partly responsible for the UsefulNotes/NorwegianConstituentAssembly. The dynasty died out with Frederick VII, and the Glüksborg branch turned out to be a ''lot'' more sensible, but then they were ''constitutional'' monarchs.

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* The Oldenburg dynasty in Denmark, beginning with Christian I, deserves some notes here. Most of the kings were fairly sensible at best, and dimwitted at worst, known to screw up badly in foreign affairs. Then,[[https://en.Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VII_of_Denmark Christian VII]] came along. He suffered from mental illness, and had to rule by proxy for long periods of time. Christian suffered from hallucinations and paranoia, and his reign coincided with that of English George III (mentally ill kings were somewhat fashionable at this time). His illness led to the infamous ''Struensee affair'', when the King´s physician took the helm in his name and turned out to be the most sensible ruler Denmark had had for decades, until he was toppled in a coup and executed. His son, Frederick VI, had to rule in his name from that point and onwards, and is known for having messed up big time when he eventually became king. This because he was the unlucky bastard who had to steer Denmark through the NapoleonicWars, and screwed up enough to be partly responsible for the UsefulNotes/NorwegianConstituentAssembly. The dynasty died out with Frederick VII, and the Glüksborg branch turned out to be a ''lot'' more sensible, but then they were ''constitutional'' monarchs.
22nd Mar '17 10:13:33 AM karategal
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** That's only three crazy kings, two borderline crazy kings, and one horribly incompetent one out of the seventeen monarchs. If you want to count the Targaryens who never became kings, only Rhaegal (Brother of Aerys I and Maekar) Aerion (Brother of Aegon V) and maybe Viserys (brother of Daenerys) were crazy.

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** That's only three crazy kings, two borderline crazy kings, and one horribly incompetent one out of the seventeen monarchs. If you want to count the Targaryens who never became kings, only Rhaegal (Brother (brother of Aerys I and Maekar) Maekar), Aerion (Brother (brother of Aegon V) V), and maybe Viserys (brother of Daenerys) were crazy.



** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile immune systems]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]

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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile immune systems]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]
22nd Mar '17 10:11:17 AM karategal
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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]

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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] immune systems]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]
22nd Mar '17 10:02:13 AM karategal
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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them and they're given only scant mentions in the royal histories.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]

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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them and they're given only scant mentions in the royal histories.them.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when [[CrapsackWorld considering the time period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]
22nd Mar '17 9:54:55 AM karategal
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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of a more stable younger son or nephew. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them and they're given only scant mentions in the royal histories.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when compared to the general time period.[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but were so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]

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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of [[SpareToTheThrone a more stable younger son or nephew.nephew]]. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them and they're given only scant mentions in the royal histories.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when compared to [[CrapsackWorld considering the general time period.period]].[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but were so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]
22nd Mar '17 9:42:27 AM karategal
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*** Well, the incest might be a factor (and, those who believe Stannis will no doubt jump on that explanation). However, [[RoyalBrat Joffrey]] really didn't have a chance: his mother both spoiled and smothered him as well as refused to let anybody else educate him... while neglecting such things as mathematics, ethics, psychology and ''reading''. His father, although not exactly abusive, was both distant and neglectful. Anybody else who could have stepped in to discipline or direct him were either chased off (Maesters) or never spotted the problem until far too late (Grandfather, Father-by-blood and Uncle).

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*** Well, the incest might be a factor (and, those who believe Stannis will no doubt jump on that explanation). However, [[RoyalBrat Joffrey]] really didn't have a chance: his mother both spoiled and smothered him as well as refused to let anybody else educate him... while neglecting such things as mathematics, ethics, psychology psychology, and ''reading''. His father, although not exactly abusive, was both distant and neglectful. Anybody else who could have stepped in to discipline or direct him were either chased off (Maesters) or never spotted the problem until far too late (Grandfather, Father-by-blood and Uncle).


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** It's unknown how many Targaryens were passed over for the throne due to either mental defects or poor physical health. The insanity problem became prevalent enough that the councils would try to skip over the crazy or sickly Targaryen in the line of succession in favor of a more stable younger son or nephew. And in later generations, a significant number were also born with moderate to severe mental defects, or "feeble-witted".[[note]]This applied to Aerion Blackfyre's daughter and at least several more children, but because they were never seriously considered in the line of succession, little was recorded about them and they're given only scant mentions in the royal histories.[[/note]] Even their physical health was eventually effected, with several being intellectually and emotionally normal but possessing such [[IllGirl fragile health]] that they suffered from numerous ailments and died young. Stillbirths and cradle deaths were ''very'' common, even when compared to the general time period.[[note]]Dany's mother, Queen Rhaella, had no less than two stillbirths, three miscarriages, and three infant sons who were born alive but were so sickly that none of them lived more than a year.[[/note]]
18th Mar '17 12:03:26 PM k410ren
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his son Jaehaerys II -- Often considered weak due to his poor health and short reign but thought well of by anyone who actually knew him,\\

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his son Jaehaerys II -- Often considered weak due to his poor health and short reign but thought well of by anyone who actually knew him,\\him, managed to do some good things during his brief time [[note]]End the Blackfyre Rebellions and reconcile the Great Houses [[/note]]\\
18th Mar '17 11:56:45 AM k410ren
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*** It's not clear at all that Rhaegar inherited any of Aerys II's madness [[spoiler: especially if his kidnapping of Lyanna Stark was not a kidnapping at all]]. Rhaegar however was pretty emo at times [[spoiler:much like his second son]], which only got worse as he became more obsessed with the prophecy of the "Prince who was Promised".

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*** It's not clear at all that Rhaegar inherited any of Aerys II's madness [[spoiler: especially [[spoiler:especially if his kidnapping of Lyanna Stark was not a kidnapping at all]]. Rhaegar however was pretty emo at times [[spoiler:much like his second son]], which only got worse as he became more obsessed with the prophecy of the "Prince who was Promised".



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' implies this is caused by inbreeding in the Targaryen and [[spoiler:Lannister]] family lines, in as little as one generation. The crazy rate is implied to be around 50% (as per the page quote), regardless of how long the inbreeding has been practiced. Technically the [[spoiler: Lannister]] case isn't a single generation; [[spoiler: Jaime and Cersei]] are first generation sibling incest, but their parents were first cousins. And since no particular fuss is made over that fact, it can be assumed that cousin incest is not uncommon in the Lannister family. [[spoiler: Cersei and Jaime]] were far from the first incestuous pairing in the family, but they were probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Furthermore, they're both unpleasant people, and their son Joffrey seems to combine the worst aspects of each.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' implies this is caused by inbreeding in the Targaryen and [[spoiler:Lannister]] family lines, in as little as one generation. The crazy rate is implied to be around 50% (as per the page quote), regardless of how long the inbreeding has been practiced. Technically the [[spoiler: Lannister]] case isn't a single generation; [[spoiler: Jaime and Cersei]] are first generation sibling incest, but their parents were first cousins. And since no particular fuss is made over that fact, it can be assumed that cousin incest is not uncommon in the Lannister family. [[spoiler: Cersei and Jaime]] were far from the first incestuous pairing in the family, but they were probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Furthermore, they're both unpleasant people, people (though [[spoiler:Jaime]] is [[TheAtoner trying to be less unpleasant]]), and their son Joffrey seems to combine the worst aspects of each. His siblings Myrcella and Tommen, on the other hand, are perfectly reasonable people (though Tommen is an ExtremeDoormat) who [[spoiler:wind up being TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth thanks to Cersei's machinations, leading to the end of their house.]]
8th Mar '17 10:27:55 AM nombretomado
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* The Dresari family in the ''MechWarrior 4'' series appears to suffer from this; it's doubly painful because [[spoiler: the likable player character in the first game pulls a FaceHeelTurn and becomes TheCaligula in one of the expansions]]. Per a previous example, this is not entirely uncommon in the [=BattleTech=] universe.

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* The Dresari family in the ''MechWarrior ''VideoGame/MechWarrior 4'' series appears to suffer from this; it's doubly painful because [[spoiler: the likable player character in the first game pulls a FaceHeelTurn and becomes TheCaligula in one of the expansions]]. Per a previous example, this is not entirely uncommon in the [=BattleTech=] universe.
22nd Feb '17 1:04:55 PM PrincessGwen
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** ''Videogame/FireEmblemFates'' . Both royal family of Hoshido and Nohr are dysfunctional. The Nohr family is the more troubled of the two, since their father Garon sired many children with his concubines. The infighting and power struggles killed off most of the half-siblings -- the relatively sane and decent ones are the only ones ''left''. Garon himself was hardened by this [[spoiler:but he's still not to blame for all of the really awful things that happen in the game, since he's a DeadAllAlong puppet of the true BigBad Anankos.]] If Nohr used to be dysfunctional but the infighting stopped after Elise's birth and from there the siblings get along well, Hoshido was the opposite. They used to be happy family, but everything fell apart after [[spoiler: the Avatar is kidnapped by Nohr and Sumeragi assassinated]]. The two older siblings Ryoma and Hinoka trained themselves too hard, busying themselves to distract themselves from the sadness of losing their father and younger sibling, but distancing themselves from their left younger siblings (namely Takumi and Sakura). This is visible in their supports, that Nohr siblings cleared their inner conflicts well, but Hoshido siblings... Does not completely clear their problems, even if you A support all of them. If you [[spoiler: sent the younger siblings fight the oldest one in Revelation, this also shows. Xander have a special dialogue if you sent Camilla against him, but Ryoma DOES NOT have any special dialogue even if you sent Takumi or Sakura against him. Even more so against their father Sumeragi. Sumeragi only have special dialogue with the Avatar and Ryoma, showing clear sign of ParentalFavoritism.]] The straightest example of an insanely evil royal is [[spoiler:the protagonist's true father Anankos who also happens to be a godlike dragon, but even that's due to a flaw with dragons in the fire Emblem verse: If they spend too long in their dragon forms without using a [[PowerLimiter dragonstone]] they go insane. Anankos is even worse than the normal insane dragon, because his sane half is still aware of what's going on and ''[[AndIMustScream can't do anything to stop it]]'']]

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** ''Videogame/FireEmblemFates'' . Both royal family families of Hoshido and Nohr are dysfunctional. The Nohr family is the more troubled of the two, since their father Garon sired many children with his concubines. The infighting and power struggles killed off most of the half-siblings -- the relatively sane and decent ones are the only ones ''left''. Garon himself was hardened by this [[spoiler:but he's still not to blame for all of the really awful things that happen in the game, since he's a DeadAllAlong puppet of the true BigBad Anankos.]] If Nohr used to be dysfunctional but the infighting stopped after Elise's birth and from there the siblings get along well, Hoshido was the opposite. They used to be a happy family, but everything fell apart after [[spoiler: the Avatar is was kidnapped by Nohr and Sumeragi assassinated]]. The two older siblings Ryoma and Hinoka trained themselves too hard, busying themselves to distract themselves from the sadness of losing their father and younger sibling, but distancing themselves from their left younger siblings (namely Takumi and Sakura). This is visible in their supports, that Nohr siblings cleared their inner conflicts well, but the Hoshido siblings... Does Do not completely clear their problems, even if you A support all of them. If you [[spoiler: sent the younger siblings fight the oldest one in Revelation, ''Revelation'', this also shows. Xander have a has special dialogue if you sent Camilla against him, but Ryoma DOES NOT have any special dialogue even if you sent Takumi or Sakura against him. Even more so against their father Sumeragi. Sumeragi only have has special dialogue with the Avatar and Ryoma, showing clear sign signs of ParentalFavoritism.]] The straightest example of an insanely evil royal is [[spoiler:the protagonist's true father Anankos who also happens to be a godlike dragon, but even that's due to a flaw with dragons in the fire Fire Emblem verse: If they spend too long in their dragon forms without using a [[PowerLimiter dragonstone]] they go insane. Anankos is even worse than the normal insane dragon, because his sane half is still aware of what's going on and ''[[AndIMustScream can't do anything to stop it]]'']]
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