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15th May '17 7:47:46 AM CaptEquinox
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** The text suggests he had severe migraine headaches, which can also make a person behave very irrationally and cause memory loss. He initially brought David to the palace because his doctors prescribed music to help him relax (1 Samuel 16:23) -- this is when the spear-throwing started, as he came to realize that while David wasn't after the throne, he was destined to succeed him. His actions were savage, but not irrational.

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** The text suggests he had severe migraine headaches, which can also make a person behave very irrationally and cause memory loss. He initially brought David to the palace because his doctors prescribed music to help him relax (1 Samuel 16:23) -- this is when the spear-throwing started, as he came to realize that while David wasn't after the throne, he was destined to succeed him. His actions were savage, perhaps irrational, but not irrational.schizophrenic.
15th May '17 7:46:31 AM CaptEquinox
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* Some Biblical scholars believe [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul King Saul]] may have been schizophrenic. Not only because of his jealous obsession with and multiple murder attempts against his eventual successor UsefulNotes/KingDavid, but also because he threw a spear at his own son [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(1_Samuel) Jonathan]] for merely asking why his best friend David had to die.

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* Some Biblical scholars believe [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul King Saul]] may have been schizophrenic. Not only because of his jealous obsession with and multiple murder attempts against his eventual successor UsefulNotes/KingDavid, but also because he threw a spear at his own son [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(1_Samuel) Jonathan]] for merely asking why his best friend David had to die.die (1 Samuel 20:30).
** The text suggests he had severe migraine headaches, which can also make a person behave very irrationally and cause memory loss. He initially brought David to the palace because his doctors prescribed music to help him relax (1 Samuel 16:23) -- this is when the spear-throwing started, as he came to realize that while David wasn't after the throne, he was destined to succeed him. His actions were savage, but not irrational.
15th May '17 7:26:39 AM CaptEquinox
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* UsefulNotes/LudwigIIOfBavaria was considered by many to be mad, and deposed because of it (based on the "diagnosis" of Dr. Gudden, who wrote it without ever having met Ludwig in person), followed by his death the next day of either murder or suicide. For the most part his 'insanity' consisted of an obsession with building [[Film/ChittyChittyBangBang elaborate castles]], opera music, and beautiful men, and he's more fondly remembered now.

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* UsefulNotes/LudwigIIOfBavaria was considered by many to be mad, and deposed because of it (based on the "diagnosis" of Dr. Gudden, who wrote it without ever having met Ludwig in person), followed by his death the next day of either murder or suicide. For the most part his 'insanity' consisted of an obsession with building [[Film/ChittyChittyBangBang elaborate castles]], swans, opera music, and beautiful men, and he's more fondly remembered now.now -- he's known as the ''Fairytale King'' or the ''Swan King''. Aw.
15th May '17 7:18:51 AM CaptEquinox
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** Emperor Ferdinand I of Austria wasn't the head-choppy kind of crazy but he was definitely epileptic and had a hydrocephalus. His (rather euphemistic) honorific was "the Kindly" or "the Benign" (''Ferdinand der Gütige'' in German).[[note]]After his 1848 abdication, jokers sometimes turned this into ''Gütinand der Fertige'': "Goodinand the Finished".[[/note]] He gave exactly one coherent order during his entire reign: upon being told by his cook that he could not have ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillenknodel Marillenknödel]]'' (a kind of Austrian sweet dumpling stuffed with whole apricots) for dessert because apricots were out of season, he famously said, "''Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel!''" ("I am the Emperor, and I want dumplings!"). After being told by his chancellor [[MagnificentBastard Metternich]] that the people outside the palace were carrying out a revolution (in 1848), his answer according to urban legend was: "Yes, but are they allowed to do that?"[[note]]Incidentally, he's said to have said it in the [[GermanDialects Viennese dialect of Austrian German]], which (for German-speakers) lends to the air of amiable cluelessness.[[/note]] Since he remained childless, his disabilities did not continue down the line. Not that the line would ever have become Emperors; after the aforementioned revolution, the government convinced him to abdicate in favor of his saner and (it turns out) hypercompetent nephew Franz Joseph (who would reign until 1916).

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** Emperor Ferdinand I of Austria wasn't the head-choppy kind of crazy but he was definitely epileptic and had a hydrocephalus. His (rather euphemistic) honorific was "the Kindly" or "the Benign" (''Ferdinand der Gütige'' in German).[[note]]After his 1848 abdication, jokers sometimes turned this into ''Gütinand der Fertige'': "Goodinand the Finished".[[/note]] He gave exactly one coherent order during his entire reign: upon being told by his cook that he could not have ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillenknodel Marillenknödel]]'' (a kind of Austrian sweet dumpling stuffed with whole apricots) for dessert because apricots were out of season, he famously said, "''Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel!''" ("I am the Emperor, and I want dumplings!"). [[note]]He seems to have expressed himself much better in writing; his diary is completely coherent and even witty. Wouldn't be the first time someone with a communication disorder was passed off as dumber than they are to enable a power/money grab.[[/note]] After being told by his chancellor [[MagnificentBastard Metternich]] that the people outside the palace were carrying out a revolution (in 1848), his answer according to urban legend was: "Yes, but are they allowed to do that?"[[note]]Incidentally, he's said to have said it in the [[GermanDialects Viennese dialect of Austrian German]], which (for German-speakers) lends to the air of amiable cluelessness.[[/note]] Since he remained childless, his disabilities did not continue down the line. Not that the line would ever have become Emperors; after the aforementioned revolution, the government convinced him to abdicate in favor of his saner and (it turns out) hypercompetent nephew Franz Joseph (who would reign until 1916).
15th May '17 7:13:50 AM CaptEquinox
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** Ferdinand II's favourite occupation was rolling around in the bin.

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** Ferdinand II's I of Austria's favourite occupation was rolling around in the bin.
24th Apr '17 12:52:37 AM Spindriver
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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king (kind of tough-minded and ambitious, but those were rated as virtues in a renaissance monarch), but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports-{{CareerEndingInjury}}, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.

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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king (kind of tough-minded and ambitious, but those were rated as virtues in a renaissance monarch), but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports-{{CareerEndingInjury}}, sports-CareerEndingInjury, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
24th Apr '17 12:51:02 AM Spindriver
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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king (kind of tough-minded and ambitious, but those were rated as virtues in a renaissance monarch), but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports-{{career-ending injury}}, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.

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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king (kind of tough-minded and ambitious, but those were rated as virtues in a renaissance monarch), but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports-{{career-ending injury}}, sports-{{CareerEndingInjury}}, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
24th Apr '17 12:45:11 AM Spindriver
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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king, but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports career ending injury, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
*** The sanity of his daughter Queen Mary I (not only Britain's first undisputed queen regnant (ruling queen)[[note]] Queen Matilda's inheritance sparked a civil war that stopped her from being coronated, and only ended when her rival combatant died after making her son his heir, after which she abdicated.[[/note]] but the original Bloody Mary) is a question historians have never settled. Her campaign to re-establish the Catholic church led to an unusually large number of brutal executions in her six-year reign and brought the country to the point of outright rebellion. Of course, the English Reformation had started as a way for her father to divorce and mistreat her mother, who was then dying of cancer, and witnessing that had a profound effect on Mary. She also may have had a hysterical pregnancy: when she married at 38 she was understandably desperate to produce an heir, as the only other surviving Tudor -- her younger half-sister [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Elizabeth]] -- was of questionable legitimacy and very Protestant. Mary was observed by her courtiers to show every sign of pregnancy… but a year went by and no child was born. For centuries it was assumed to be extreme wishful thinking, but the fact that she died soon after suggests it may have been cancer or some other major physical illness.

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** UsefulNotes/HenryVIII started out as a good king, king (kind of tough-minded and ambitious, but those were rated as virtues in a renaissance monarch), but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports career ending injury, sports-{{career-ending injury}}, and [[HeirClubForMen the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
*** ** The sanity of his daughter Queen Mary I (not only Britain's first undisputed queen regnant (ruling queen)[[note]] Queen Matilda's inheritance sparked a civil war that stopped her from being coronated, and only ended when her rival combatant died after making her son his heir, after which she abdicated.[[/note]] but the original Bloody Mary) is a question historians have never settled. Her campaign to re-establish the Catholic church led to an unusually large number of brutal executions in her six-year reign and brought the country to the point of outright rebellion. Of course, the English Reformation had started as a way for her father to divorce and mistreat her mother, who was then dying of cancer, and witnessing that had a profound effect on Mary. She also may have had a hysterical pregnancy: when she married at 38 she was understandably desperate to produce an heir, as the only other surviving Tudor -- her younger half-sister [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Elizabeth]] -- was of questionable legitimacy and very Protestant. Mary was observed by her courtiers to show every sign of pregnancy… but a year went by and no child was born. For centuries it was assumed to be extreme wishful thinking, but the fact that she died soon after suggests it may have been cancer or some other major physical illness.
16th Apr '17 4:04:25 PM karstovich2
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** Emperor Ferdinand I of Austria wasn't the head-choppy kind of crazy but he was definitely epileptic and had a hydrocephalus. His (rather euphemistic) honorific was "the Kindly" or "the Benign" (''Ferdinand der Gütige'' in German).[[note]]After his 1848 abdication, jokers sometimes turned this into ''Gütinand der Fertige'': "Goodinand the Finished".[[/note]] He gave exactly one coherent order during his entire reign: upon being told by his cook that he could not have ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillenkn%C3%B6del Marillenknödel]]'' (a kind of Austrian sweet dumpling stuffed with whole apricots) for dessert because apricots were out of season, he famously said, "''Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel!''" ("I am the Emperor, and I want dumplings!"). After being told by his chancellor [[MagnificentBastard Metternich]] that the people outside the palace were carrying out a revolution (in 1848), his answer according to urban legend was: "Yes, but are they allowed to do that?"[[note]]Incidentally, he's said to have said it in the [[GermanDialects Viennese dialect of Austrian German]], which (for German-speakers) lends to the air of amiable cluelessness.[[/note]] Since he remained childless, his disabilities did not continue down the line. Not that the line would ever have become Emperors; after the aforementioned revolution, the government convinced him to abdicate in favor of his saner and (it turns out) hypercompetent nephew Franz Joseph (who would reign until 1916).

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** Emperor Ferdinand I of Austria wasn't the head-choppy kind of crazy but he was definitely epileptic and had a hydrocephalus. His (rather euphemistic) honorific was "the Kindly" or "the Benign" (''Ferdinand der Gütige'' in German).[[note]]After his 1848 abdication, jokers sometimes turned this into ''Gütinand der Fertige'': "Goodinand the Finished".[[/note]] He gave exactly one coherent order during his entire reign: upon being told by his cook that he could not have ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillenkn%C3%B6del org/wiki/Marillenknodel Marillenknödel]]'' (a kind of Austrian sweet dumpling stuffed with whole apricots) for dessert because apricots were out of season, he famously said, "''Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel!''" ("I am the Emperor, and I want dumplings!"). After being told by his chancellor [[MagnificentBastard Metternich]] that the people outside the palace were carrying out a revolution (in 1848), his answer according to urban legend was: "Yes, but are they allowed to do that?"[[note]]Incidentally, he's said to have said it in the [[GermanDialects Viennese dialect of Austrian German]], which (for German-speakers) lends to the air of amiable cluelessness.[[/note]] Since he remained childless, his disabilities did not continue down the line. Not that the line would ever have become Emperors; after the aforementioned revolution, the government convinced him to abdicate in favor of his saner and (it turns out) hypercompetent nephew Franz Joseph (who would reign until 1916).



* This lead to the abolition of the 240-year-old Nepalese monarchy in 2008. In 2001, Crown Prince Dipendra allegedly went AxCrazy and gunned down most of his relatives, including his father the King. By law, Dipendra was crowned Nepal's new king, despite being both accused of multiple murders and comatose from an allegedly self-inflicted gunshot wound. Dipendra quickly succumbed to his injuries and his uncle Gyanedra was crowned king despite being widely suspected of masterminding the royal family massacre. No matter whether Dipendra or Gyanedra had really done it, Nepal had made at least one mass murderer its king. When Gyanedra tried to abolish Parliament, the Nepalese decided they had had enough of this trope and voted to make peace with the [[DirtyCommunists Maoist rebels]] and declare a republic.

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* This lead led to the abolition of the 240-year-old Nepalese monarchy in 2008. In 2001, Crown Prince Dipendra allegedly went AxCrazy and gunned down most of his relatives, including his father the King. By law, Dipendra was crowned Nepal's new king, despite being both accused of multiple murders and comatose from an allegedly self-inflicted gunshot wound. Dipendra quickly succumbed to his injuries and his uncle Gyanedra was crowned king despite being widely suspected of masterminding the royal family massacre. No matter whether Dipendra or Gyanedra had really done it, Nepal had made at least one mass murderer its king. When Gyanedra tried to abolish Parliament, the Nepalese decided they had had enough of this trope and voted to make peace with the [[DirtyCommunists Maoist rebels]] and declare a republic.



* They're not officially royalty, but for all intents and purposes the severely messed up Kim family are the hereditary rulers of UsefulNotes/NorthKorea. Their antics include releasing truly insane propaganda to the world which depicts their country as a wealthy and powerful developed nation (in fact their level of development ranges from UsefulNotes/ColdWar era to downright medieval), claiming magical powers and impossible achievements (inventing the hamburger and communicating winning strategies to Olympic coaches through invisible phones are among the tamer ones), all but [[GodEmperor deifying themselves]], releasing a list of approved hairstyles for their subjects, threatening the use of nuclear weapons at the slightest provocation, abducting people worldwide for purposes ranging from creating a {{Kaiju}} film to [[SexSlave sexual slavery]] to teaching English to spies, running a frightening amount of concentration camps which imprison whole families down to the third generation and generally treating their people like disposable chattel.

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* They're not officially royalty, but for all intents and purposes the severely messed up Kim family are the hereditary rulers of UsefulNotes/NorthKorea. Their antics include releasing truly insane propaganda to the world which depicts their country as a wealthy and powerful developed nation (in fact their level of development ranges from UsefulNotes/ColdWar era to downright medieval), claiming magical powers and impossible achievements (inventing the hamburger and communicating winning strategies to Olympic coaches through invisible phones are among the tamer ones), all but [[GodEmperor deifying themselves]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_trim_our_hair_in_accordance_with_the_socialist_lifestyle releasing a list of approved hairstyles for their subjects, subjects]], threatening the use of nuclear weapons at the slightest provocation, abducting people worldwide for purposes ranging from creating a {{Kaiju}} film to [[SexSlave sexual slavery]] to teaching English to spies, running a frightening amount of concentration camps which imprison whole families down to the third generation and generally treating their people like disposable chattel.
16th Apr '17 2:55:37 PM karstovich2
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** Much later there was UsefulNotes/GeorgeIII, of the "talking-to-a-tree-because-he-thought-it-was-the-king-of-Prussia" style of crazy, but that was an isolated incident and might even have been made up by his son, George IV, who had to rule as regent for years while they waited for him to die. (These are the Georges that turn up in the ''Series/{{Blackadder}} season 3'' finale, incidentally.) The king Georges had an unspoken family tradition of having bad relationships with their oldest sons and IV is known to have cruelly parodied III's condition in front of his friends in London clubs. IV himself was more a case of 'just about sane enough' than completely well-balanced; fortunately power was sufficiently shared with Parliament by this time that a sane-ish monarch was good enough.

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** Much later there was UsefulNotes/GeorgeIII, of the "talking-to-a-tree-because-he-thought-it-was-the-king-of-Prussia" style of crazy, but that was an isolated incident and might even have been made up by his son, George IV, who had to rule as regent for years while they waited for him to die. (These are the Georges that turn up in the ''Series/{{Blackadder}} season 3'' finale, incidentally.) The king Georges Hanoverian monarchs had an unspoken family tradition of having bad relationships with their oldest sons (from George I and George II to Victoria and Edward VII, not one British monarch had a good relationship with his/her eldest male child) and George IV is known to have cruelly parodied George III's condition in front of his friends in London clubs. IV himself was more a case of 'just about sane enough' than completely well-balanced; fortunately fortunately, power was sufficiently shared with Parliament by this time that a sane-ish monarch was good enough.enough, and in any case the only thing George IV ''wanted'' to use power for was to deprive his wife of her privileges as queen.
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