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* ''LightNovel/SuteraretaYuushaNoEiyuutan'': Despite bullying Daichi, horrifically, for years, and throwing him into a monster pit to be Eaten Alive, he swears graphic vengeance on Daichi the moment Daichi has him cornered in a dungeon. That is, until Daichi kills him over, and over, and over again, so that he learns how being helplessly bullied feels like.

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* ''LightNovel/SuteraretaYuushaNoEiyuutan'': ''Literature/SuteraretaYuushaNoEiyuutan'': Despite bullying Daichi, horrifically, for years, and throwing him into a monster pit to be Eaten Alive, he swears graphic vengeance on Daichi the moment Daichi has him cornered in a dungeon. That is, until Daichi kills him over, and over, and over again, so that he learns how what being helplessly bullied feels like.



* ''LightNovel/RebuildWorld'': After Katsuya goes on an UnstoppableRage FreakOut over both a LoveTriangle over Sheryl and the FalseFlagOperation against him by Tiol making it look like Akira killed his teammates, and Akira kills Katsuya in self-defense, Airi forms a RenegadeSplinterFaction from Drankam to get revenge on Akira despite him being the victim, as well as her friend Yumina fully accepting he was such.

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* ''LightNovel/RebuildWorld'': ''Literature/RebuildWorld'': After Katsuya goes on an UnstoppableRage FreakOut over both a LoveTriangle over Sheryl and the FalseFlagOperation against him by Tiol making it look like Akira killed his teammates, and Akira kills Katsuya in self-defense, Airi forms a RenegadeSplinterFaction from Drankam to get revenge on Akira despite him being the victim, as well as her friend Yumina fully accepting he was such.



* In ''FanFic/HeroChat'', this is Chloe's fourth category of reasons for Akumatization: You Brought This On Your Own Damn Self, where a person did something bad and got Akumatized over the reasonable consequences (i.e. Lila turning into Volpina because Ladybug called her out for lying).

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* In ''FanFic/HeroChat'', ''Fanfic/HeroChat'', this is Chloe's fourth category of reasons for Akumatization: You Brought This On Your Own Damn Self, where a person did something bad and got Akumatized over the reasonable consequences (i.e. Lila turning into Volpina because Ladybug called her out for lying).



* The entire plot of ''Film/{{Oldboy 2003}}'' in a nutshell. Oh Dae-su wants revenge against the man who abducted and imprisoned him for 15 years. [[spoiler:Lee Woo-jin in return wants revenge against Oh Dae-su for indirectly [[DrivenToSuicide driving his sister to suicide.]]]]

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* The entire plot of ''Film/{{Oldboy 2003}}'' ''Film/Oldboy2003'' in a nutshell. Oh Dae-su wants revenge against the man who abducted and imprisoned him for 15 years. [[spoiler:Lee Woo-jin in return wants revenge against Oh Dae-su for indirectly [[DrivenToSuicide driving his sister to suicide.]]]]



* This is implied to be the case the two families that make up [[Wiki/SCPFoundation SCP-]][[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2039 2039]]. Mabel Pike essentially made a DealWithTheDevil that left her family and the Wagner family in an eternal feud, because Blaine Wagner, the family's patriarch, [[spoiler:murdered Mabel's girlfriend when they were younger]]. The exact circumstances are never given though, the feud itself only began because of the supernatural aid of a mysterious entity, and the Foundation report indicates that Blaine [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone suffers from night terrors]] while frequently murmuring the name of [[spoiler:Mabel's girlfriend.]]

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* This is implied to be the case the two families that make up [[Wiki/SCPFoundation [[Website/SCPFoundation SCP-]][[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2039 2039]]. Mabel Pike essentially made a DealWithTheDevil that left her family and the Wagner family in an eternal feud, because Blaine Wagner, the family's patriarch, [[spoiler:murdered Mabel's girlfriend when they were younger]]. The exact circumstances are never given though, the feud itself only began because of the supernatural aid of a mysterious entity, and the Foundation report indicates that Blaine [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone suffers from night terrors]] while frequently murmuring the name of [[spoiler:Mabel's girlfriend.]]

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* ''Literature/TheBookOfMormon'' recounts how Ammoron wants revenge against the Nephites for murdering his brother. Said brother was leading an unprovoked invasion of the Nephites at the time, conquering cities and slaughtering the inhabitants, on a mission to ''drink the blood'' of their chief captain, and was killed in the field. (And why did he want to drink Moroni's blood? Because Moroni's innovative city defences foiled the ''previous'' unprovoked invasion.)





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* ''Literature/TheBookOfMormon'' recounts how Ammoron wants revenge against the Nephites for murdering his brother. Said brother was leading an unprovoked invasion of the Nephites at the time, conquering cities and slaughtering the inhabitants, on a mission to ''drink the blood'' of their chief captain, and was killed in the field. (And why did he want to drink Moroni's blood? Because Moroni's innovative city defences foiled the ''previous'' unprovoked invasion.)
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* ''ComicBook/MasterOfKungFu'' had a storyline where an underworld boss tasks his assassins and then an evil samurai with killing Comicbook/ShangChi, assuming that Fu Manchu will reward him for it. The samurai screws up by not only dying himself but also accidentally killing his employer's life partner. The villain naturally goes ItsPersonal on Shang-Chi – who else is there left to blame for her death, [[NeverMyFault himself]]?

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* ''ComicBook/MasterOfKungFu'' had a storyline where an underworld boss tasks his assassins and then an evil samurai with killing Comicbook/ShangChi, ComicBook/ShangChi, assuming that Fu Manchu will reward him for it. The samurai screws up by not only dying himself but also accidentally killing his employer's life partner. The villain naturally goes ItsPersonal on Shang-Chi – who else is there left to blame for her death, [[NeverMyFault himself]]?



* David in the ''Animorphs'' fanfic ''FanFic/AnimorphsRedux''; he's determined to get revenge on the Animorphs for their previous defeats of him, which ended in him getting trapped as a rat, completely ignoring the fact that not only did they do that ''after'' he tried to kill them, but more importantly, ''he's now in an alternate timeline where none of the team had done ANYTHING to him before he started trying to kill them''.

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* David in the ''Animorphs'' fanfic ''FanFic/AnimorphsRedux''; ''Fanfic/AnimorphsRedux''; he's determined to get revenge on the Animorphs for their previous defeats of him, which ended in him getting trapped as a rat, completely ignoring the fact that not only did they do that ''after'' he tried to kill them, but more importantly, ''he's now in an alternate timeline where none of the team had done ANYTHING to him before he started trying to kill them''.



* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' has The Governor get a vendetta attitude about Michonne because she finished off his zombie daughter, even though he had previously sent men out to kill her simply for not buying into his false utopia (without which it is unlikely she would have returned), and even after acknowledging his daughter was already dead.

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* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' ''Series/TheWalkingDead2010'' has The Governor get a vendetta attitude about Michonne because she finished off his zombie daughter, even though he had previously sent men out to kill her simply for not buying into his false utopia (without which it is unlikely she would have returned), and even after acknowledging his daughter was already dead.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Stranglehold}}'', a sequel to ''Film/HardBoiled'', James Wong wants revenge on [[CowboyCop Tequila Yuen]] for killing his son Johnny, the BigBad of ''HardBoiled''. Never mind the fact that Johnny was a psychopathic gangster who was quite willing to murder innocent people just for being in his way. [[spoiler:The fact that he orchestrates the death of his surviving child, who is Tequila's wife, just to spite Tequila only makes it worse.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Stranglehold}}'', a sequel to ''Film/HardBoiled'', James Wong wants revenge on [[CowboyCop Tequila Yuen]] for killing his son Johnny, the BigBad of ''HardBoiled''.''Film/HardBoiled''. Never mind the fact that Johnny was a psychopathic gangster who was quite willing to murder innocent people just for being in his way. [[spoiler:The fact that he orchestrates the death of his surviving child, who is Tequila's wife, just to spite Tequila only makes it worse.]]



* In ''VideoGame/MaxPayne 3'', [[TheDon Anthony DeMarco Sr.]] wants Max and Raul dead for shooting his son Anthony Jr. He ignores the fact that his son had already threatened Max with a gun simply for not being intimidated by his tough-guy act.

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* In ''VideoGame/MaxPayne 3'', ''VideoGame/MaxPayne3'', [[TheDon Anthony DeMarco Sr.]] wants Max and Raul dead for shooting his son Anthony Jr. He ignores the fact that his son had already threatened Max with a gun simply for not being intimidated by his tough-guy act.
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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' Lord Karstark wants revenge against Jaime Lannister for killing two of his sons. He does this by killing two of Jaime's relatives who were held captive, killing several men on his own side to get to them. It's pointed out that killing defenseless prisoners and your own allies is not the same as killing an enemy in battle, but the distinction seems lost on him since he's basically [[RevengeBeforeReason half-mad with anger and grief]] by that point. This also extends to his soldiers: Robb executing Karstark for murder causes them to abandon House Stark, ''their rightful liege lord'', despite their lord having broken the law and been punished accordingly.
** There are other instances where someone (Balon Greyjoy and the Sand Snakes) acknowledges that the people they spent years plotting revenge against are all dead, yet they still want revenge against their House. It gets rather ridiculous with Balon, who blames Ned for the death of his eldest son due to Ned fighting on the opposite side to Balon, one of them dying in a battle Ned wasn't even present at. Although he was also holding his last son hostage.
** The Martells are seeking vengeance against Ser Amory Lorch, Ser Gregor Clegane and his liege lord Tywin Lannister for murdering Princess Elia Martell and her children during the overthrow of the regime that she married into. (True, it was a war and the children were in line to the throne, but it was a [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil particularly brutal]] and unnecessary murder.) Tywin tries to get around it by blaming all the murders on Lorch after their death. [[spoiler:Oberyn Martell is granted the chance to fight the Mountain in a duel... and when he loses fair and square, his children, the Sand Snakes, start clamoring for revenge against the Lannisters for HIS death, even though Gregor admitted his crimes and died rather agonizingly of his wounds anyway, and Lord Tywin is dead from unrelated causes (namely, Tyrion finally getting fed up with his father and killing him).]]
** Cersei Lannister is also guilty of this after ''A Storm of Swords'', where she loses both her eldest and most beloved son ''and'' her father. She is constantly sending people out to hunt Tyrion down, despite the fact that her youngest son was a psychopath who ''wasn't even killed by Tyrion'' (instead being poisoned by Olenna Tyrell, who refused to let her granddaughter Margaery marry such a monster) and that her father ''really'' had it coming; not only was he about to execute Tyrion under false pretenses because he was TheUnfavorite for being a dwarf (and because Tywin's wife died giving birth to him), but Tyrion had just found out that Tywin falsely led him to think that his commoner wife was a whore. It was really just a matter of time before ''somebody'' Twyin and/or Joffery wronged succeeded in killing them, but Cersei doesn't see it that way.

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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' Lord Karstark wants revenge against Jaime Lannister for killing two of his sons. He does this by killing two of Jaime's relatives who were held captive, killing several men on his own side allied with him to get to them. It's pointed out that killing defenseless prisoners and your own allies is not the same as killing an enemy in battle, but the distinction seems lost on him since he's basically [[RevengeBeforeReason half-mad with anger and grief]] by that point. This also extends to his soldiers: Karstark's execution by Robb executing Karstark Stark for murder causes them to abandon House Stark, ''their rightful liege lord'', despite the fact that their lord having broken ''did'' break the law and been was punished accordingly.
** There are other instances where someone (Balon Greyjoy and Greyjoy, the Sand Snakes) acknowledges that the people they spent years plotting revenge against are all dead, yet they still want revenge against their House. house. It gets rather ridiculous with Balon, who blames Ned for the death of his eldest son due to because Ned fighting fought on the opposite side to Balon, Balon and his, one of them dying Balon's sons having died in a battle Ned wasn't even present at. Although he was for. Granted, Ned also holding held his last son hostage.
** The Martells are seeking seek vengeance against Ser Amory Lorch, Ser Gregor Clegane Clegane, and his liege lord Tywin Lannister for murdering the murder of Princess Elia Martell and her children during the overthrow of the regime that she married into. (True, True, it was a war and the children were in line to the throne, but it was a [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil particularly brutal]] and unnecessary murder.) murder. Tywin tries to get around it by blaming all the murders on Lorch after their death. [[spoiler:Oberyn Martell is granted the chance to fight the Mountain in a duel... and when he loses fair and square, his children, the Sand Snakes, start clamoring for revenge against the Lannisters for HIS ''his'' death, even though Gregor admitted his crimes and died rather agonizingly of his wounds anyway, and Lord Tywin is dead from died of unrelated causes (namely, Tyrion finally getting fed up with his father and killing him).]]
** Cersei Lannister is also guilty of this after ''A Storm of Swords'', where she loses both her eldest and most beloved son ''and'' her father. She is constantly sending sends people out to hunt Tyrion down, despite the fact that her youngest son was a psychopath who ''wasn't even killed by Tyrion'' (instead being poisoned by Olenna Tyrell, who refused to let such a monster marry her granddaughter Margaery marry such a monster) Margaery) and that her father ''really'' had it coming; not only was he about to execute Tyrion under false pretenses because he was TheUnfavorite for being a dwarf (and because Tywin's wife died giving birth to him), but Tyrion had just found out that Tywin falsely led him to think that his commoner wife was a whore. It was really just a matter of time before ''somebody'' whom Twyin and/or Joffery Joffrey wronged succeeded in killing them, but Cersei doesn't see it that way.
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* The motivation of the [[BigBad Killian]] from ''WesternAnimation/SpiesInDisguise" is [[spoiler:getting revenge on Lance for [[AFatherToHisMen killing all of his men]] and disfiguring him during a mission. When Killian reveals this, Lance points out that Killian and his men were all terrorists who were planning to kill innocent people and he was doing his job to stop them.]]

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* The motivation of the [[BigBad Killian]] from ''WesternAnimation/SpiesInDisguise" is [[spoiler:getting revenge on Lance for [[AFatherToHisMen killing all of his men]] and disfiguring him during a mission. When Killian reveals this, Lance points out that Killian and his men were all terrorists who were planning to kill innocent people and he was doing his job to stop them.]]
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* The Russians in ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' tend to fall into this trap whenever they show up after the Apocalypse War. They're driven by vengeance towards Mega-City One for nuking their own home city - and Judge Dredd in particular, who launched the missiles. The fact that they started this war to begin with, and nuked half of Mega-City One to oblivion, never crosses their mind let alone their conscience.
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': The Russians in ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' tend to fall into this trap whenever they show up after the Apocalypse War. They're driven by vengeance towards Mega-City One for nuking their own home city - and Judge Dredd in particular, who launched the missiles. The fact that they started this war to begin with, and nuked half of Mega-City One to oblivion, never crosses their mind let alone their conscience.
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** ''ComicBook/TheLeperFromKrypton'': Criminal ringleader Ventor wants to kill Superman to avenge his brother Bruno, not caring that his brother would not have died in prison if he had not committed crimes which forced Superman to catch him. The story makes a point that Bruno's death has eroded Ventor's sanity, though, since he alternates between declaring he'll avenge his brother's death and claiming his brother is still alive and he will kill Superman to protect Buno.
** ''ComicBook/WhoIsSuperwoman'': Sam Lane seeks revenge against ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} for the death of his daughter, the titular villain. This is ignoring the fact that Superwoman died because her super-suit malfunctioned while she was attempting to murder Supergirl. This is also ignoring the fact that Superwoman both put on that suit and started that battle at Lane's behest.



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** In ''Shadow of Victory''/''Uncompromising Honor'', [[spoiler:when Manticore comes knocking on Mesa's door, Albrecht Detweiler, leader of the Mesan Alignment, kills himself and his wife with a nuke, triggering more nuclear weapons across Mesa, preventing the Manticorans from finding further proof about the Alignment and framing them for the attack. What do their children do? Organize the destruction of Beowulf's three main space habitats, totaling '''''43 million people''''' - all because their father killed himself and their mother.]]

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** In ''Shadow of Victory''/''Uncompromising Honor'', [[spoiler:when Manticore comes knocking on Mesa's door, Albrecht Detweiler, leader of the Mesan Alignment, kills himself and his wife with a nuke, triggering more nuclear weapons across Mesa, preventing the Manticorans from finding further proof about the Alignment and framing them for the attack. What do their children do? Organize the destruction of Beowulf's three main space habitats, totaling '''''43 43 million people''''' people - all because their father killed himself and their mother.]]



* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Harley Quinn's main motivation is to get revenge on Superman for his killing of the Joker. What Harley appears to have conveniently forgotten is that the Joker got himself killed on purpose by tricking Superman into killing his wife Lois Lane and their unborn child, thus activating a detonator the Joker rigged to her heart that activated when she died and detonated a nuke that destroyed the city of Metropolis, then going out of his way to torment Superman over this, which he did purely because he was tired of always losing to Batman and wanted to get an easy win over Superman. Or that she herself was complicit in the Joker's actions. So Superman's actions were entirely justified, while Harley clearly has a bad case of NeverMyFault about the whole thing. Which is very typical for Harley's character in general, as far as she and her ''Puddin''' are concerned. By [[VideoGame/{{Injustice2}} the sequel]] she's grown out of this and opposes Superman purely for moral reasons while admitting that she has far too much blood on her own hands to expect forgiveness.

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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Harley Quinn's main motivation is to get revenge on Superman for his killing of the Joker. What Harley appears to have conveniently forgotten is that the Joker got himself killed on purpose by tricking Superman into killing his wife Lois Lane and their unborn child, thus activating a detonator the Joker rigged to her heart that activated when she died and detonated a nuke that destroyed the city of Metropolis, then going out of his way to torment Superman over this, which he did purely because he was tired of always losing to Batman and wanted to get an easy win over Superman. Or that she herself was complicit in the Joker's actions. So Superman's actions were entirely justified, while Harley clearly has a bad case of NeverMyFault about the whole thing. Which is very typical for Harley's character in general, as far as she and her ''Puddin''' are concerned. By [[VideoGame/{{Injustice2}} [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]] she's grown out of this and opposes Superman purely for moral reasons while admitting that she has far too much blood on her own hands to expect forgiveness.



* ''VideoGame/FarCry5'': Judging by [[SinisterMinister Joseph Seed's]] [[InelegantBlubbering reaction]] to his final lieutenant's death, you would think they were innocent godly folk cut down by a savage, inhuman murderer, and not psychotic cultists killed in self-defense by [[PlayerCharacter the Deputy]]. After [[TranquilFury calming down somewhat]], Joseph vows to take revenge by stealing away everything and everyone the Deputy ever loved.
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* ''Film/TheLastCircus: Colonel Salcedo kidnaps Javier and humiliates him because he made him [[EyeScream lose an eye]] years prior. What makes Salcedo ANYTHING but an innocent victim is that Javier did that by accident when the Colonel was [[YouKilledMyFather killing his imprisoned father]].

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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that after he was murdered in the DL-6 incident, von Karma took in his son Miles and raised him to be a cold and ruthless prosecutor, the kind that his father fought valiantly against. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]

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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that after he was murdered in the DL-6 incident, von Karma took in his son Miles and raised him to be a cold and ruthless prosecutor, the kind that his father fought valiantly against. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he von Karma is the one who murdered Gregory and framed Miles -- he tries to frame Edgeworth for that the murder of the man who defended the man who was falsely accused of Gregory's murder years ago, and another]].when Phoenix and Maya disprove that, he tries to convince the court that he's not the one who fatally shot Gregory]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 IS-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]
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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that after he's murdered in the DL-6 incident, von Karma took in his son Miles and raised him to be a cold and ruthless prosecutor, the kind that his father fought valiantly against. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]

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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that after he's he was murdered in the DL-6 incident, von Karma took in his son Miles and raised him to be a cold and ruthless prosecutor, the kind that his father fought valiantly against. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]
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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he raised his son, Miles, to be a cold, ruthless prosecutor. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]

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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he after he's murdered in the DL-6 incident, von Karma took in his son Miles and raised his son, Miles, him to be a cold, cold and ruthless prosecutor.prosecutor, the kind that his father fought valiantly against. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]

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* Music/{{Eminem}}'s beef with Music/InsaneClownPosse resulted in him including a near two-minute-long skit on his MagnumOpus ''Music/TheMarshallMathersLP'' of ICP having extremely gross-sounding gay sex, while also dedicating an entire verse on the album's title track to calling them gay. (Using harsher words than that.) However, he was entirely responsible for starting the beef by printing up fliers promising that the ICP would be present at one of his gigs, without bothering to ask ICP first (who enjoyed a mutual fandom with him, and would have been at the show if he hadn't felt entitled to use their names to get attention). Eminem responded to their justified annoyance with DisproportionateRetribution, vandalising the ICP's tour van with paintball guns, which resulted in ICP's [[SoUnfunnyItsFunny deliberately low-effort diss]] "Slim Anus". ''That'' was what Eminem's skit and diss was in response to. It is worth pointing out that both parties have now squashed the beef due to D12 member Proof taking ICP bowling; they've appeared on his radio show, and Eminem has accepted he was in the wrong in the scenario.

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* Music/{{Eminem}}'s beef with Music/InsaneClownPosse resulted in him including a near two-minute-long skit on his MagnumOpus ''Music/TheMarshallMathersLP'' of ICP having extremely gross-sounding gay sex, while also dedicating an entire verse on the album's title track to calling them gay. (Using harsher words than that.) However, he was entirely responsible for starting the beef by printing up fliers promising that the ICP would be present at one of his gigs, without bothering to ask ICP first (who enjoyed a mutual fandom with him, and would have been at the show if he hadn't felt entitled to use their names to get attention). Eminem responded to their justified mild annoyance with DisproportionateRetribution, vandalising the ICP's tour van with paintball guns, which resulted in ICP's [[SoUnfunnyItsFunny deliberately low-effort diss]] "Slim Anus".Anus", a song in which they dub poor-quality gay jokes directly over a recording of "My Name Is". ''That'' was what Eminem's skit and diss was in response to. It is worth pointing out that both parties have now squashed the beef due to D12 member Proof taking ICP bowling; they've appeared on his radio show, and Eminem has accepted he was in the wrong in the scenario.

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* Music/{{Eminem}}'s beef with Music/InsaneClownPosse resulted in him including a near two-minute-long skit on his MagnumOpus ''Music/TheMarshallMathersLP'' of ICP having extremely gross-sounding gay sex, while also dedicating an entire verse on the album's title track to calling them gay. (Using harsher words than that.) However, he was entirely responsible for starting the beef by printing up fliers promising that the ICP would be present at one of his gigs, without bothering to ask ICP first (who enjoyed a mutual fandom with him, and would have been at the show if he hadn't felt entitled to use their names to get attention). Eminem responded to their justified annoyance with DisproportionateRetribution, vandalising the ICP's tour van with paintball guns, which resulted in ICP's [[SoUnfunnyItsFunny deliberately low-effort diss]] "Slim Anus". ''That'' was what Eminem's skit and diss was in response to. It is worth pointing out that both parties have now squashed the beef due to D12 member Proof taking ICP bowling; they've appeared on his radio show, and Eminem has accepted he was in the wrong in the scenario.
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* In ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', Yukishiro Enishi wants revenge on Kenshin for killing Tomoe's fiancee and destroying her happiness, before killing her (though by accident) and taking away the only person Enishi loved. However, Tomoe never died hating Kenshin but instead tried to protect him. He doesn't realize the truth until he is given her diary right at the end.

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* In ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', Yukishiro Enishi wants revenge on Kenshin for killing Tomoe's fiancee and destroying her happiness, before killing her (though by accident) and taking away the only person Enishi loved. However, Tomoe never died hating Kenshin but instead tried to protect him. He doesn't realize the truth until he is given her diary right at the end. Enishi also never acknowledges that Tomoe died in a battle that he helped set up, meaning that her death was at least partially his own fault.
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': The Salamanca cousins travel up from Mexico in order to kill Walt in revenge for Tuco getting killed. Except it was Walt's brother in law Hank who shot Tuco, and they know this, but the cartel has a very strict rule that US law enforcement agents are not to be touched. Still, they [[HonorBeforeReason have to kill someone]]. Gus eventually redirects them to go after Hank...but also arranges for Hank to be tipped off right before the hit is carried out so they'll take each other out, as part of a scheme by Gus to force a sitdown with the cartel.

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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': The In season 3, the Salamanca cousins travel up from Mexico in order to kill Walt in revenge for Tuco getting killed. Except it was Walt's brother in law brother-in-law Hank who shot Tuco, and they know this, but the cartel has a very strict rule that US law enforcement agents are not to be touched. Still, they [[HonorBeforeReason have to kill someone]]. Gus eventually redirects them to go after Hank...but he also arranges for Hank to be tipped off right before the hit is carried out so they'll take each other out, as part of a scheme by Gus to force a sitdown with the cartel. cartel.
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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he raised his son, Miles, to be a cold, ruthless prosecutor. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]

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** Manfred von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he raised his son, Miles, to be a cold, ruthless prosecutor. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on von Karma's record was because von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession to protect her.her, but Gregory was able to prove in court that it was manufactured, forcing von Karma to take the penalty.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]
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** Manfred Von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he raised his son, Miles, to be a cold, ruthless prosecutor. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on Von Karma's record was because Von Karma brutally interrogated a suspect until the suspect broke down and gave a false confession.

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** Manfred Von von Karma blames Gregory Edgeworth for ruining his perfect trial record so much that he raised his son, Miles, to be a cold, ruthless prosecutor. [[spoiler:And, for good measure, it turns out [[DisproportionateRetribution he murdered Gregory and framed Miles for that murder and another]].]] The thing is, the only reason Gregory was able to put a mark on Von von Karma's record was because Von von Karma [[spoiler: brutally interrogated a suspect until Jeffrey Masters, the suspect of the 1-7 incident and Isaac Dover's murder, by threatening to indict his daughter for the crime; Master finally broke down and gave a false confession.confession to protect her.]] But ''Investigations 2'' adds another layer by revealing the fact that von Karma did this because [[spoiler: the chief prosecutor, Blaise Debeste, conjured up a false autopsy report (because they couldn't find Isaac Dover's body) and lied to von Karma about it, presenting it as real, which drove him to extort the false confession so they would have ''something'' to take to court and make the indictment stick.]]
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* ''LightNovel/RebuildWorld'': After Katsuya goes on an UnstoppableRage FreakOut over both a LoveTriangle over Sheryl and the FalseFlagOperation against him by Tiol making it look like Akira killed his teammates, and Akira kills Katsuya in self-defense, Airi forms a RenegadeSplinterFaction from Drankam to get revenge on Akira despite him being the victim, as well as her friend Yumina fully accepting he was such.
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** Tony himself falls into this at the climax of ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' when he learns that [[spoiler: Bucky]] killed his parents. [[spoler: Bucky]] was brainwashed at the time, so his [=HYDRA=] handlers were really the ones responsible... but Tony's too angry and grief-stricken to care. To be fair, it was an extremely stressful time for him (and Baron Zemo, the one who made the revelation, [[BatmanGambit was counting on this]]), and part of the reason he's angry is because Steve had hidden this from him, denying him the opportunity to come to terms with it on his own time.

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** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': [[spoiler:Quentin Beck]] also wants revenge on Tony for stealing his technology, renaming it BARF and firing him... except that if [[spoiler:Beck]] was working for Stark Industries when he created BARF, the tech belongs to Stark Industries, not him, and while [[UnfortunateNames the name]] Tony gives it isn't great, it does just stand for what the tech does (Binary Augmented Retro-Framing). As for being fired, well, the film demonstrates that he is very unstable and Tony (or just as likely, Pepper Potts, as she was CEO at the time) was right to fire him.

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** Tony himself falls into this at the climax of ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' when he learns that [[spoiler: Bucky]] killed his parents. [[spoler: Bucky]] was brainwashed at the time, so his [=HYDRA=] handlers were really the ones responsible... but Tony's too angry and grief-stricken to care. To be fair, it was an extremely stressful time for him (and Baron Zemo, the one who made the revelation, [[BatmanGambit was counting on this]]), and part of the reason he's angry is because Steve had hidden this from him, denying him the opportunity to come to terms with it on his own time.
** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': [[spoiler:Quentin Beck]] also wants revenge on Tony for stealing his technology, renaming it BARF and firing him... except that if [[spoiler:Beck]] was working for Stark Industries when he created BARF, the tech belongs to Stark Industries, not him, and while [[UnfortunateNames the name]] Tony gives it isn't great, it does just stand for what the tech does (Binary Augmented Retro-Framing).Retro-Framing), and Tony admits that he should probably think of a better one. As for being fired, well, the film demonstrates that he is very unstable and Tony (or just as likely, Pepper Potts, as she was CEO at the time) was right to fire him.
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** ''Film/Scream1996'': Billy Loomis murdered Sidney's mother for having an affair with his father which led to his mother abandonning him. Billy never holds his father responsible for the affair and he even murders five other people who had nothing to do with his family falling apart.
** ''Film/{{Scream 2}}'': Debbie Loomis, Billy's mother, wants revenge on Sidney for killing him. Never mind the fact that Sidney killed Billy in self-defense after Billy murdered Sidney's mother, framed an innocent man for it, and went on a killing spree murdering five people, three of them by [[GuttedLikeAFish disembowelment]]. Not to mention her own [[ParentalAbandonment abandonment]] of Billy played a lot into his psychosis in the first place. But she's sick of people using that old BlameGame on her. She even attempts to get Cotton Weary in on this, noting Sidney falsely accused him of the crimes her son committed and intentionally framed him for.
** ''Film/Scream3'': Roman Bridger, Sidney's half-brother, is revealed to have been the one who manipulated Billy into killing Sidney's mother and going on a murder spree. He did all this because he hated Sidney for having the mother he didn't and getting the fame that he felt he was owed. Except Sidney didn't even know about him and it is made quite clear that none of the fame she has as a survivor of the Ghostface murders is worth the years of isolation and mental trauma she has endured. Sidney calls Roman a selfish brat who refuses to accept responsibility for his actions and only kills people because he enjoys it.

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** ''Film/Scream1996'': Billy Loomis murdered Sidney's mother and framed an innocent man for having it because she had an affair with his father father, which led to his mother abandonning abandoning him. Billy never holds his father responsible for the affair and The following year, he even murders goes on to murder five other people (three by [[GuttedLikeAFish disembowelment]]) who had nothing to do with his family falling apart.
apart and try to frame Sidney's father for it, all because he hates Sidney's family that much. (Two of their victims, Casey Becker and Steve Orth, are implied to have been picked out by Billy's accomplice Stu Macher, because [[IfICantHaveYou Casey broke up with Stu to date Steve]].) Not once does Billy realize that it takes two to tango and hold his father responsible for his part in the affair.
** ''Film/{{Scream 2}}'': ''Film/Scream2'': Debbie Loomis, Billy's mother, wants revenge on Sidney for killing him. Never mind the fact that Sidney killed Billy in self-defense after Billy murdered Sidney's mother, framed an innocent man for it, and went on a killing spree murdering five people, three of them by [[GuttedLikeAFish disembowelment]]. Not did all the things listed above, not to mention how her own [[ParentalAbandonment abandonment]] of Billy played a lot into his psychosis in the first place. But she's sick of people using that old BlameGame on her. She even attempts to get Cotton Weary in on this, noting Sidney falsely accused him of the crimes her son committed and intentionally framed him for.
** ''Film/Scream3'': Roman Bridger, Sidney's half-brother, is revealed to have been the one who manipulated Billy into killing Sidney's mother and going on a murder spree. He did all this because he hated Sidney for having the mother he didn't and getting the fame that he felt he was owed. Except Sidney didn't even know about him and it is made quite clear that none of the fame she has as a survivor of the Ghostface murders is worth the years of isolation and mental trauma she has endured. This is the point where [[ShutUpHannibal Sidney has flat-out had enough]] of killers targeting her for such petty reasons, and calls Roman a selfish brat who refuses to accept responsibility for his actions and only kills people because he enjoys it.
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* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' is set up by escalating (thanks to misunderstandings) cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favorite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranded, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:

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* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'' is set up by escalating (thanks to misunderstandings) cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favorite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranded, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:

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* In the anime/manga of ''Literature/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', Zandeh wants to kill Daryun to avenge his father, who didn't even kill him, as Kharlan died when [[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fell on his own broken weapon]]. Never mind the fact that Kharlan had betrayed and tried to kill Daryun and Arslan first, both whom he had sworn allegiance to.

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* In the anime/manga of ''Literature/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', ''Literature/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'': Zandeh wants to kill Daryun to avenge his father, who didn't even kill him, as Kharlan died when [[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fell on his own broken weapon]]. Never mind the fact that Kharlan had betrayed and tried to kill Daryun and Arslan first, both whom he had sworn allegiance to.



** ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} villain Reactron wants to kill Kara because she wrecked his healing radiation-containment suit... which happened because she was stopping him from killing her when he assaulted her, completely unprovoked, the first time they fought. So in retaliation he murdered her father in ''ComicBook/NewKrypton'', tried to kill and rape her several times in story arcs like ''ComicBook/WhoIsSuperwoman'', ''Codename: Patriot'' and ''The Hunt for Reactron''-, and in ''War of Supermen'' he murdered her mother and blew up her planet and race.

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** ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} villain Reactron wants to kill Kara because she wrecked his healing radiation-containment suit... which happened because she was stopping him from killing her when he assaulted her, completely unprovoked, the first time they fought. fought in ''ComicBook/Supergirl2005''. So in retaliation he murdered her father in ''ComicBook/NewKrypton'', tried to kill and rape her several times in story arcs like ''ComicBook/WhoIsSuperwoman'', ''Codename: Patriot'' and ''The Hunt for Reactron''-, ''ComicBook/TheHuntForReactron''-, and in ''War of Supermen'' he murdered her mother and blew up her planet and race.


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** ''ComicBook/TheGirlWithTheXRayMind'': After escaping prison, Lesla-Lar plots her revenge against Supergirl, even though Supergirl literally did nothing to Lesla. In ''ComicBook/TheUnknownSupergirl'', Lesla nullified Supergirl's powers because she was pettily jealousy of Kara's future fame. Then she brainwashed and replaced Supergirl, intending to kill Superman and Luthor and then take over the world, but she was caught by the Kandorian police before she could carry her scheme out. In a nutshell, Kara did nothing to earn her enmity, Kara was not the one who brought Lesla down, and Kara did not even know Lesla exists.
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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is that Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot murkier [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob first and Bob was just defending himself]]. They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. Bob didn't really want to kill Charlie and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely Bob regrets it greatly]]. But all of that doesn't matter to Alice. Bob has to ''pay'' for what he did to Charlie.

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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is that Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot murkier [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob first and Bob was just defending himself]]. They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. Bob [[IDidntMeanToKillHim didn't really want to kill kill]] Charlie and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely Bob regrets it greatly]]. But all of that doesn't matter to Alice. Bob has to ''pay'' for what he did to Charlie.



* Possibly the best description of the villain's agenda in ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMysticForce''; [[spoiler:Ivan Ooze took years to pull himself back together after the Rangers hurled him into the path of a comet, and by the time he was intact again he couldn’t be bothered hunting down and killing the Ranger team who nearly destroyed him as that team had all gone their separate ways by then. Instead, Ooze set up an elaborate plan to gain power for himself by going after the wizarding world, who never knew he even existed until then]].

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* Possibly the best description of the villain's agenda in ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMysticForce''; [[spoiler:Ivan Ooze took years to pull himself back together after the Rangers hurled him into the path of a comet, and by the time he was intact again he couldn’t couldn't be bothered hunting down and killing the Ranger team who nearly destroyed him as that team had all gone their separate ways by then. Instead, Ooze set up an elaborate plan to gain power for himself by going after the wizarding world, who never knew he even existed until then]].



* ''Film/TheLovedOnes'': Lola informs Brent that, because he [[spoiler:killed her father]], she will now take revenge by [[spoiler:going to Brent’s house and killing his mother and his girlfriend]]. And the fact that, [[spoiler:in order to kill her father, Brent had to break free of his restraints before the man ''poured a kettleful of boiling water into the hole they had just drilled through Brent’s skull?'']] Lola seems to feel this is no excuse.

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* ''Film/TheLovedOnes'': Lola informs Brent that, because he [[spoiler:killed her father]], she will now take revenge by [[spoiler:going to Brent’s Brent's house and killing his mother and his girlfriend]]. And the fact that, [[spoiler:in order to kill her father, Brent had to break free of his restraints before the man ''poured a kettleful of boiling water into the hole they had just drilled through Brent’s Brent's skull?'']] Lola seems to feel this is no excuse.



** ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'': Wanda and Pietro Maximoff want revenge on Tony Stark because a Stark missile killed their parents...except that while Tony’s company did make the missile, it wasn’t him who aimed or fired it. Hell, it likely wasn’t even him that sold it, given this happened during the time Obadiah Stane was selling under the table.
** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': [[spoiler:Quentin Beck]] also wants revenge on Tony for stealing his technology, renaming it BARF and firing him... except that if [[spoiler:Beck]] was working for Stark Industries when he created BARF, the tech belongs to Stark Industries, not him, and while [[UnfortunateNames the name]] Tony gives it isn’t great, it does just stand for what the tech does (Binary Augmented Retro-Framing). As for being fired, well, the film demonstrates that he is very unstable and Tony (or just as likely, Pepper Potts, as she was CEO at the time) was right to fire him.

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** ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'': Wanda and Pietro Maximoff want revenge on Tony Stark because a Stark missile killed their parents...except that while Tony’s Tony's company did make the missile, it wasn’t wasn't him who aimed or fired it. Hell, it likely wasn’t wasn't even him that sold it, given this happened during the time Obadiah Stane was selling under the table.
** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': [[spoiler:Quentin Beck]] also wants revenge on Tony for stealing his technology, renaming it BARF and firing him... except that if [[spoiler:Beck]] was working for Stark Industries when he created BARF, the tech belongs to Stark Industries, not him, and while [[UnfortunateNames the name]] Tony gives it isn’t isn't great, it does just stand for what the tech does (Binary Augmented Retro-Framing). As for being fired, well, the film demonstrates that he is very unstable and Tony (or just as likely, Pepper Potts, as she was CEO at the time) was right to fire him.

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* Ghostface's motive in ''Film/{{Scream 2}}''. She's revealed to be the mother of Billy Loomis, the first Ghostface, and wants revenge on Sidney for killing him. Never mind the fact that Sidney killed Billy in self-defense after Billy murdered Sidney's mother, framed an innocent man for it, and went on a killing spree murdering five people, three of them by [[GuttedLikeAFish disembowelment]]. Not to mention her own [[ParentalAbandonment abandonment]] of Billy played a lot into his psychosis in the first place. But she's sick of people using that old BlameGame on her. She even attempts to get Cotton Weary in on this, noting Sidney falsely accused him for the crimes her son committed and intentionally framed him for.

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* Ghostface's motive in ''Film/{{Scream}}'': The villains of the first three films easily qualify.
** ''Film/Scream1996'': Billy Loomis murdered Sidney's mother for having an affair with his father which led to his mother abandonning him. Billy never holds his father responsible for the affair and he even murders five other people who had nothing to do with his family falling apart.
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''Film/{{Scream 2}}''. She's revealed to be the mother of Billy 2}}'': Debbie Loomis, the first Ghostface, and Billy's mother, wants revenge on Sidney for killing him. Never mind the fact that Sidney killed Billy in self-defense after Billy murdered Sidney's mother, framed an innocent man for it, and went on a killing spree murdering five people, three of them by [[GuttedLikeAFish disembowelment]]. Not to mention her own [[ParentalAbandonment abandonment]] of Billy played a lot into his psychosis in the first place. But she's sick of people using that old BlameGame on her. She even attempts to get Cotton Weary in on this, noting Sidney falsely accused him for of the crimes her son committed and intentionally framed him for.for.
** ''Film/Scream3'': Roman Bridger, Sidney's half-brother, is revealed to have been the one who manipulated Billy into killing Sidney's mother and going on a murder spree. He did all this because he hated Sidney for having the mother he didn't and getting the fame that he felt he was owed. Except Sidney didn't even know about him and it is made quite clear that none of the fame she has as a survivor of the Ghostface murders is worth the years of isolation and mental trauma she has endured. Sidney calls Roman a selfish brat who refuses to accept responsibility for his actions and only kills people because he enjoys it.
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** This seems to run in the family; when Regina's half-sister Zelena shows up, she wants revenge on Regina for getting everything instead of her. Regina had literally no clue Zelena even existed or that she had a sister. It was their mother Cora who decided to abandon her firstborn so as to not inconvenience her social climbing. But since Cora was first trapped in another dimension and later [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal]] by the time Zelena came to power, Regina was an easier target to focus on.
** This defined the relationship between Captain Hook and Rumplestilskin. Hook had fallen in love with Rumple's wife, Milah. Rather than leave a Dear John letter, Milah and Hook faked her kidnapping and let the then-human Rumplestilskin and his son believe she had been murdered by pirates. When the current Dark One Rumplestilskin found out about the deception, however, he murdered Milah and cut off Hook's hand. Swearing revenge, Hook vowed to find a way to kill him. However, since Rumplestilskin is near-unstoppable while the Dark One, most of Hook's attempts have involved hurting Rumplestilskin's [[MoralityPet true love]], Belle, who has never done anything to Hook.
* ''Series/{{Revenge}}'': Victoria Grayson wants retribution against Emily for what happened to her family, actual or perceived. Thing is, after what Emily went through, and how much of it for which she was responsible, she [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming]], especially given that her season 3 finale fate of being committed to an asylum [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine was exactly what she did years ago to young Emily]].

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** This seems to run in the family; when Regina's half-sister Zelena shows up, she wants revenge on Regina for getting everything instead of her. Except Regina had literally no clue Zelena even existed or existed, let alone that she Cora had a sister. another child. It was their mother Cora who decided to abandon her firstborn so as to not inconvenience her social climbing. But since Cora was first trapped in another dimension and later [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal]] by the time Zelena came to power, Regina was an easier target to focus on.
** This defined the relationship between Captain Hook and Rumplestilskin. Hook had fallen in love with Rumple's wife, Milah. Rather than leave a Dear John letter, Milah and Hook faked her kidnapping and let the then-human Rumplestilskin and his son believe she had been murdered by pirates. When the current Dark One Rumplestilskin found out about the deception, however, he murdered Milah and cut off Hook's hand. Swearing revenge, Hook vowed to find a way to kill him. However, since Rumplestilskin is near-unstoppable while as the Dark One, most of Hook's attempts have involved hurting Rumplestilskin's [[MoralityPet true love]], Belle, who has never done anything to Hook.
* ''Series/{{Revenge}}'': Victoria Grayson wants retribution against Emily for what happened to her family, actual or perceived. Thing is, after what Emily went through, and how much of it for which she was responsible, Victoria's fault, she [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming]], especially given that her season 3 finale fate of being committed to an asylum [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine was exactly what she did years ago to young Emily]].
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** In ''ComicBook/ActionComics #544: Luthor Unleashed'', ComicBook/LexLuthor has been living in planet Lexor for a while, where he's hailed as a hero and cherished by his wife and son. Even so, he goads Superman into Lexor and attempts to kill him. During the battle, Luthor's warsuit shoots a blasts which accidentally hits one of his doomsday devices. Lexor blows up, Lex's family dies, and Luthor, who is all but physically unable to take responsibility for his own actions, swears revenge on Superman.

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** In ''ComicBook/ActionComics #544: Luthor Unleashed'', ComicBook/LexLuthor has been living in planet Lexor for a while, where he's hailed as a hero and cherished by his wife and son. Even so, he goads Superman into Lexor and attempts to kill him. During the battle, Luthor's warsuit shoots a blasts blast which accidentally hits one of his doomsday devices. Lexor blows up, Lex's family dies, and Luthor, who is all but physically unable to take responsibility for his own actions, swears revenge on Superman.
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Hazel Rainart sided with Salem because he blames Ozpin for his little sister's death. Ozpin did not kill his little sister, commit MurderByInaction, kill her in an UriahGambit, or anything like that. Ozpin just accepted her application to Beacon (which was presumably at the age that every other student gets there), and she was killed by a Grimm on a training mission. So he's allied with Salem (who commands the Grimm) to take down Beacon, and thus making sure that even more teenagers suffer his sister's fate. While he hasn't grasped the hypocrisy of his actions, his later reasoning for siding with her ([[spoiler:aside from how [[IFightForTheStrongestSide she's a powerful immortal]]]]) is because of how Ozpin lures people into his shadow war [[spoiler:yet leaves the AwfulTruth out of it]].

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Hazel Rainart sided with Salem because he blames Ozpin for his little sister's death. Ozpin did not kill his little sister, commit MurderByInaction, kill her in an UriahGambit, or anything like that. Ozpin just accepted her application to Beacon (which was presumably at the age that every other student gets there), and she was killed by a Grimm on a training mission. So he's allied with Salem (who commands the Grimm) to take down Beacon, and thus making sure that even more teenagers suffer his sister's fate. While he hasn't grasped the hypocrisy of his actions, his later reasoning for siding with her ([[spoiler:aside from how she's a powerful immortal and that he went with the logic of [[IFightForTheStrongestSide she's a powerful immortal]]]]) if you can't beat them, join them]]]]) is because of how Ozpin lures people into his shadow war [[spoiler:yet leaves the AwfulTruth that they're in a ForeverWar out of it]].
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Hazel Rainart sided with Salem because he blames Ozpin for his little sister's death. Ozpin did not kill his little sister, commit MurderByInaction, kill her in an UriahGambit, or anything like that. Ozpin just accepted her application to Beacon (which was presumably at the age that every other student gets there), and she was killed by a Grimm on a training mission. So he's allied with Salem (who commands the Grimm) to take down Beacon, and thus making sure that even more teenagers suffer his sister's fate. He hasn't quite yet grasped the hypocrisy of his actions.

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Hazel Rainart sided with Salem because he blames Ozpin for his little sister's death. Ozpin did not kill his little sister, commit MurderByInaction, kill her in an UriahGambit, or anything like that. Ozpin just accepted her application to Beacon (which was presumably at the age that every other student gets there), and she was killed by a Grimm on a training mission. So he's allied with Salem (who commands the Grimm) to take down Beacon, and thus making sure that even more teenagers suffer his sister's fate. He While he hasn't quite yet grasped the hypocrisy of his actions.actions, his later reasoning for siding with her ([[spoiler:aside from how [[IFightForTheStrongestSide she's a powerful immortal]]]]) is because of how Ozpin lures people into his shadow war [[spoiler:yet leaves the AwfulTruth out of it]].

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