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16th Jul '17 9:41:54 AM Occidensill
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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. Bob didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely Bob regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite Bob, and Bob just defended himself, Bob has to ''pay'' for what he did to Charlie.

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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. Bob didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely Bob regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite Bob, and Bob just defended himself, Alice. Bob has to ''pay'' for what he did to Charlie.



** John Harrison and Kirk in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''. Harrison seeks revenge on Admiral Marcus, and ends up [[spoiler:killing Christopher Pike in his attack on the admiral. Pike's death]] then drives Kirk to swear revenge on Harrison.

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** John Harrison and Kirk in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''. Harrison seeks revenge on Admiral Marcus, and ends up [[spoiler:killing Christopher Pike in his attack on the admiral. Pike's death]] then drives Kirk to swear revenge on Harrison. Both of them thus end up largely playing into the hands of Admiral Marcus and his plans to instigate war, blinded by their personal desires for revenge.


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* Colonel Packard of ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' becomes obsessed with killing Kong in revenge for the deaths of his soldiers, ignoring that they (albeit unknowingly) started it by bombing the island, and later the revelation that Kong is vital to stopping an even worse threat to humans from coming to the surface.
25th May '17 12:22:35 PM StFan
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->'''Mills''': I killed your son because he kidnapped my daughter!
->'''Murad''': ''*slaps Mills*'' I DON'T ''CARE'' WHAT HE DID!
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->'''Mills''': ->'''Mills:''' I killed your son because he kidnapped my daughter!
->'''Murad''': ''*slaps Mills*''
daughter!\\
'''Murad:''' ''[slaps Mills]''
I DON'T ''CARE'' WHAT HE DID!
-->-- ''Film/{{Taken 2}}''
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* As the page quote shows, ''Film/{{Taken 2}}'' is driven by Murad wanting to [[AvengingTheVillain avenge his son Marko]], killed in the original by RetiredBadass Bryan for kidnapping his daughter in Paris. Murad doesn't care if Marko worked in a crime ring, and destroyed many young women's lives by forcing them into sex slavery (a fate Bryan's daughter escaped just in time). He just wants to ease his pain by killing the man responsible for Marko's death ([[RevengeByProxy and his loved ones]]), and to add salt to the wound, intended to do so by finishing his son's original intentions.

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* As the page quote shows, ''Film/{{Taken 2}}'' ''Film/Taken2'' is driven by Murad wanting to [[AvengingTheVillain avenge his son Marko]], killed in the original by RetiredBadass Bryan for kidnapping his daughter in Paris. Murad doesn't care if Marko worked in a crime ring, and destroyed many young women's lives by forcing them into sex slavery (a fate Bryan's daughter escaped just in time). He just wants to ease his pain by killing the man responsible for Marko's death ([[RevengeByProxy and his loved ones]]), and to add salt to the wound, intended to do so by finishing his son's original intentions.



* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' is set up by escalating cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favourite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranded, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:
-->'''Woody:''' We're lost! Andy's gone...and it's all! Your! Fault!
-->'''Buzz:''' My fault?!? If you hadn't knocked me out of the window in the first place...
-->'''Woody:''' ''*scoffs angrily*'' Well if ''you'' hadn't shown up in your stupid little cardboard spaceship and took away everything that was important to me...

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* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' is set up by escalating cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favourite favorite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranded, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:
-->'''Woody:''' We're lost! Andy's gone... and it's all! Your! Fault!
-->'''Buzz:'''
Fault!\\
'''Buzz:'''
My fault?!? If you hadn't knocked me out of the window in the first place...
-->'''Woody:''' ''*scoffs angrily*''
place...\\
'''Woody:''' ''[scoffs angrily]''
Well if ''you'' hadn't shown up in your stupid little cardboard spaceship and took away everything that was important to me...






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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Harley Quinn's main motivation is to get revenge on Superman for his killing of the Joker. What Harley appears to have conveniently forgotten is that the Joker got himself killed on purpose by tricking Superman into killing his wife Lois Lane and their unborn child, thus activating a detonator the Joker rigged to her heart that activated when she died and detonated a nuke that destroyed the city of Metropolis, then going out of his way to torment Superman over this, which he did purely because he was tired of always losing to Batman and wanted to get an easy win over Superman. Or that she herself was complicit in the Joker's actions. So Superman's actions were entirely justified, while Harley clearly has a bad case of NeverMyFault about the whole thing.

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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Harley Quinn's main motivation is to get revenge on Superman for his killing of the Joker. What Harley appears to have conveniently forgotten is that the Joker got himself killed on purpose by tricking Superman into killing his wife Lois Lane and their unborn child, thus activating a detonator the Joker rigged to her heart that activated when she died and detonated a nuke that destroyed the city of Metropolis, then going out of his way to torment Superman over this, which he did purely because he was tired of always losing to Batman and wanted to get an easy win over Superman. Or that she herself was complicit in the Joker's actions. So Superman's actions were entirely justified, while Harley clearly has a bad case of NeverMyFault about the whole thing. thing.
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25th May '17 11:53:17 AM KingLyger
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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. He didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone and Bob just defended them, Bob has to ''pay''.

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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident]], the list goes on. He Bob didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he Bob regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone Bob, and Bob just defended them, himself, Bob has to ''pay''.
''pay'' for what he did to Charlie.
7th Mar '17 1:36:08 AM MinisterOfSinister
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Related to AvengingTheVillain, but in that case Charlie was specifically killed for committing and/or trying to commit evil. This applies when:0

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Related to AvengingTheVillain, but in that case Charlie was specifically killed for committing and/or trying to commit evil. This applies when:0when:
25th Feb '17 1:05:11 PM MinisterOfSinister
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Related to AvengingTheVillain, but in that case Charlie was specifically killed for committing and/or trying to commit evil. This applies when;

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Related to AvengingTheVillain, but in that case Charlie was specifically killed for committing and/or trying to commit evil. This applies when;when:0



# Charlie was not himself, being [[DemonicPossession possessed]] or such.

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# Charlie was not himself, NotHimself, being [[DemonicPossession possessed]] or such.


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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Harley Quinn's main motivation is to get revenge on Superman for his killing of the Joker. What Harley appears to have conveniently forgotten is that the Joker got himself killed on purpose by tricking Superman into killing his wife Lois Lane and their unborn child, thus activating a detonator the Joker rigged to her heart that activated when she died and detonated a nuke that destroyed the city of Metropolis, then going out of his way to torment Superman over this, which he did purely because he was tired of always losing to Batman and wanted to get an easy win over Superman. Or that she herself was complicit in the Joker's actions. So Superman's actions were entirely justified, while Harley clearly has a bad case of NeverMyFault about the whole thing.
2nd Feb '17 2:36:09 AM ShorinBJ
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* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' is set up by escalating cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favourite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranding, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:

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* The dilemma of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' is set up by escalating cases of this; Woody gets jealous of Buzz's inadvertently becoming the favourite toy of their owner Andy, so tries to knock him under the bed to regain attention, he instead knocks him out the window by mistake. Buzz, thinking he did it on purpose, attacks Woody during a car trip, accidentally leaving them stranding, stranded, leaving Woody once again livid with Buzz. This is lampshaded in their BlameGame argument following this:
2nd Feb '17 2:33:40 AM ShorinBJ
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** Khan in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. {{Lampshaded}} even. After Khan explains his beef with Kirk, Chekov says, "Captain Kirk was your host. You repaid his hospitality by trying to steal his ship and murder him!" Khan ignores the fact that Kirk, in simply exiling Khan to his own planet, was more charitable than he had to be given Khan's actions both on the ''Enterprise'' and as a fugitive from international justice 300 years ago. Kirk could have easily taken Khan and his people back to Earth and put them in the hands of Federation justice, which might end in a number of ways unfavorable to Khan, his crew, and his girlfriend.

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** Khan in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. {{Lampshaded}} even. After Khan explains his beef with Kirk, Chekov says, "Captain Kirk was your host. You repaid his hospitality by trying to steal his ship and murder him!" Khan ignores the fact that Kirk, in simply exiling Khan to his own planet, was more charitable than he had to be given Khan's actions both on the ''Enterprise'' and as a fugitive from international justice 300 years ago. Kirk could have easily taken Khan and his people back to Earth and put them in the hands of Federation justice, which might end in a number of ways unfavorable to Khan, his crew, and his girlfriend. Plus, Kirk left them on a very nice planet, and it's hardly his fault it underwent a drastic climate change and Khan's wife died.
30th Nov '16 10:58:28 AM ectostar
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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, it was an accident, the list goes on. He didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone and Bob just defended them, Bob has to ''pay''.

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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident, accident]], the list goes on. He didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone and Bob just defended them, Bob has to ''pay''.
29th Nov '16 9:03:11 PM ectostar
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# Charlie was not himself, being possessed or such.

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# Charlie was not himself, being possessed [[DemonicPossession possessed]] or such.
6th Nov '16 2:32:41 PM Derkhan
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* ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'': At some point, Clip gets the idea into his head of taking revenge upon Anomander Rake aka the Black-Winged Lord aka the god the Tiste Andii of Bluerose worship for allegedly allowing them to degenerate and eventually be slaughtered by the Letherii. As far as Clip is concerned, Anomander Rake deserves to die. Never mind that neither had he anything to do with the fate of the Andii of the Andara, they did not even ask him if it's okay to worship him as a god and expect anything in return. It's questionable whether he even knew of their existence.
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