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30th Nov '16 10:58:28 AM ectostar
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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, it was an accident, the list goes on. He didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone and Bob just defended them, Bob has to ''pay''.

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It's relatively common that the reason that Alice wants to kill Bob is because Bob killed Charlie. Revenge seems pretty straightforward. But it gets a lot more murky [[CrimeOfSelfDefense when Charlie was trying to kill Bob and Bob was just defending himself.]] They were in a war, it was a fight, Charlie surprised Bob at the worst time, [[AccidentalMurder it was an accident, accident]], the list goes on. He didn't really want to kill Charlie, and would have avoided doing so if possible. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone It's likely he regrets it greatly.]] But all of that doesn't matter to Alice, though. Even if Charlie was a zombie actively trying to bite someone and Bob just defended them, Bob has to ''pay''.
29th Nov '16 9:03:11 PM ectostar
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# Charlie was not himself, being possessed or such.

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# Charlie was not himself, being possessed [[DemonicPossession possessed]] or such.
6th Nov '16 2:32:41 PM Derkhan
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* ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'': At some point, Clip gets the idea into his head of taking revenge upon Anomander Rake aka the Black-Winged Lord aka the god the Tiste Andii of Bluerose worship for allegedly allowing them to degenerate and eventually be slaughtered by the Letherii. As far as Clip is concerned, Anomander Rake deserves to die. Never mind that neither had he anything to do with the fate of the Andii of the Andara, they did not even ask him if it's okay to worship him as a god and expect anything in return. It's questionable whether he even knew of their existence.
5th Nov '16 9:33:40 PM Premonition45
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* In ''Film/JasonBourne'', The Asset wants to kill Jason because exposing Blackbriar towards the end of ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' got him outed and captured. Except that Bourne never would have found out about Blackbriar if the Asset hadn't [[spoiler:''murdered his father]], thereby driving him into Treadstone.

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* In ''Film/JasonBourne'', The Asset wants to kill Jason because exposing Blackbriar towards the end of ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' got him outed and captured. Except that Bourne never would have found out about Blackbriar if the Asset hadn't [[spoiler:''murdered his father]], father'']], thereby driving him into Treadstone.
Treadstone, Blackbriar's precursor organization.
14th Sep '16 8:22:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''TheLizzieBennetDiaries'', Lydia frequently insulted Lizzie, making comments about how she would need to change if she wanted a boyfriend. But when Lizzie [[InnocentlyInsensitive bluntly told her]] that she would need to change her ways to have a successful career (something Lydia wasn't interested in), Lydia was offended and remained furious for a long time, viciously criticizing Lizzie and guilt-tripping her about Lizzie's fear of abandonment and lack of people skills.

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* In ''TheLizzieBennetDiaries'', ''WebVideo/TheLizzieBennetDiaries'', Lydia frequently insulted Lizzie, making comments about how she would need to change if she wanted a boyfriend. But when Lizzie [[InnocentlyInsensitive bluntly told her]] that she would need to change her ways to have a successful career (something Lydia wasn't interested in), Lydia was offended and remained furious for a long time, viciously criticizing Lizzie and guilt-tripping her about Lizzie's fear of abandonment and lack of people skills.



* In the ''XMenEvolution'' episode "Blind Alley", Mystique pretends to be Scott's brother Alex, supposedly stuck in Mexico after losing his passport, in order to lure Scott out on his own, knocking him out and leaving him stuck in the middle of the Mexican desert without his glasses to stop his eyes, saying "That's payback!" after Scott let her get captured inside a military base in "Day of Recovery". However Scott did that because [[spoiler:she had abducted Professor X and impersonated him throughout the two-part episode "Day of Reckoning",]] and refused to divulge the location of [[spoiler:the real Professor X.]] Note that when he managed to find his way to the city, she intended to knock him out and do it again, somewhere even more remote.

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* In the ''XMenEvolution'' ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' episode "Blind Alley", Mystique pretends to be Scott's brother Alex, supposedly stuck in Mexico after losing his passport, in order to lure Scott out on his own, knocking him out and leaving him stuck in the middle of the Mexican desert without his glasses to stop his eyes, saying "That's payback!" after Scott let her get captured inside a military base in "Day of Recovery". However Scott did that because [[spoiler:she had abducted Professor X and impersonated him throughout the two-part episode "Day of Reckoning",]] and refused to divulge the location of [[spoiler:the real Professor X.]] Note that when he managed to find his way to the city, she intended to knock him out and do it again, somewhere even more remote.
14th Sep '16 8:20:48 AM Morgenthaler
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22nd Aug '16 4:21:10 PM Premonition45
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** Khan in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. {{Lampshaded}} even. After Khan explains his beef with Kirk, Chekov says, "Captain Kirk was your host. You repaid his hospitality by trying to steal his ship and murder him!" Khan ignores the point. Khan ignores the fact that Kirk, in simply exiling Khan to his own planet, was more charitable than he had to be given Khan's actions both on the ''Enterprise'' and as a fugitive from international justice 300 years ago. Kirk could have easily taken Khan and his people back to Earth and put them in the hands of Federation justice, which might end in a number of ways unfavorable to Khan, his crew, and his girlfriend.

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** Khan in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''. {{Lampshaded}} even. After Khan explains his beef with Kirk, Chekov says, "Captain Kirk was your host. You repaid his hospitality by trying to steal his ship and murder him!" Khan ignores the point. Khan ignores the fact that Kirk, in simply exiling Khan to his own planet, was more charitable than he had to be given Khan's actions both on the ''Enterprise'' and as a fugitive from international justice 300 years ago. Kirk could have easily taken Khan and his people back to Earth and put them in the hands of Federation justice, which might end in a number of ways unfavorable to Khan, his crew, and his girlfriend.




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* In ''Film/JasonBourne'', The Asset wants to kill Jason because exposing Blackbriar towards the end of ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' got him outed and captured. Except that Bourne never would have found out about Blackbriar if the Asset hadn't [[spoiler:''murdered his father]], thereby driving him into Treadstone.
19th Jul '16 1:50:24 PM MrThorfan64
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** There are other instances where someone (Balon Greyjoy and the Sand Snakes) acknowledges that the people they spent years plotting revenge against are all dead, yet they still want revenge against their House.
** The Martells are seeking vengeance against Ser Gregor Clegane and his liege lord Tywin Lannister for murdering Princess Elia Martell and her children during the overthrow of the regime that she married into. (True, it was a war and the children were in line to the throne, but it was a [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil particularly brutal]] and unnecessary murder.) [[spoiler:Oberyn Martell is granted the chance to fight the Mountain in a duel... and when he loses fair and square, his children start clamoring for revenge against the Lannisters for HIS death, even though Gregor admitted his crimes and died rather agonizingly of his wounds anyway, and Lord Tywin is dead from unrelated causes (namely, Tyrion finally getting fed up with him and killing him).]]

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** There are other instances where someone (Balon Greyjoy and the Sand Snakes) acknowledges that the people they spent years plotting revenge against are all dead, yet they still want revenge against their House.
House. It gets rather ridiculous with Balon, who blames Ned for the death of his two eldest sons due to Ned fighting on the opposite side to Balon, one of them dying in a battle Ned wasn't even present at.
** The Martells are seeking vengeance against Ser Amory Lorch, Ser Gregor Clegane and his liege lord Tywin Lannister for murdering Princess Elia Martell and her children during the overthrow of the regime that she married into. (True, it was a war and the children were in line to the throne, but it was a [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil particularly brutal]] and unnecessary murder.) Tywin tries to get around it by blaming all the murders on Lorch after their death. [[spoiler:Oberyn Martell is granted the chance to fight the Mountain in a duel... and when he loses fair and square, his children children, the Sand Snakes, start clamoring for revenge against the Lannisters for HIS death, even though Gregor admitted his crimes and died rather agonizingly of his wounds anyway, and Lord Tywin is dead from unrelated causes (namely, Tyrion finally getting fed up with him his father and killing him).]]


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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': In a massive change from the books, Brienne of Tarth [[spoiler:murders Stannis Baratheon as he is responsible for the death of [[CainAndAbel his younger brother]] Renly Baratheon. However Renly was trying to usurp the throne which Stannis had more right to, and intended to kill his brother despite Stannis offering to make them his heir. Brienne even has the audacity to call Renly "the rightful King" before she murders Stannis.]] Unsurprisingly this change has proved very controversial, making [[spoiler:Brienne]] TheScrappy for many viewers.
29th Jun '16 1:15:27 PM Chabal2
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* The dwarves of ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' keep an enormous Book of Grudges, in which every slight and insult made to a dwarf in inscribed. These are avenged in blood, which naturally causes more dwarves to be killed, and their names are added to the Book, despite the enormous toll this takes on the population.
19th Jun '16 2:25:46 AM Dravencour
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* ''Series/{{Revenge}}: Victoria Grayson wants retribution against Emily for what happened to her family, actual or perceived. Thing is, after what Emily went through, and how much of it for which she was responsible, she [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming]], especially given that her season 3 finale fate of being committed to an asylum [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine was exactly what she did to years ago young Emily]].

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* ''Series/{{Revenge}}: Victoria Grayson wants retribution against Emily for what happened to her family, actual or perceived. Thing is, after what Emily went through, and how much of it for which she was responsible, she [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming]], especially given that her season 3 finale fate of being committed to an asylum [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine was exactly what she did to years ago to young Emily]].
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