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27th Nov '16 1:17:07 PM nombretomado
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* Keith hartman's ''Drew Parke'' books feature both a Cherokee shaman and a Wiccan circle.

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* Keith hartman's Hartman's ''Drew Parke'' books feature both a Cherokee shaman and a Wiccan circle.



* In ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', it's [[CrystalDragonjesus Aslan]], the closest thing Narnia has to a deity, who creates the world. Among the ordinary animals, he creates animals that can talk and think like humans and magical river and forest spirits. Throughout the series, faith in Aslan tends to lead to beneficial magical things happening (which makes sense, since Aslan can only help people who show faith in him).

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* In ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', it's [[CrystalDragonjesus Aslan]], the closest thing Narnia has to a deity, who creates the world. Among the ordinary animals, he creates animals that can talk and think like humans and magical river and forest spirits. Throughout the series, faith in Aslan tends to lead to beneficial magical things happening (which makes sense, since Aslan can only help people who show faith in him).
6th Oct '16 8:18:45 PM nombretomado
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* {{Subverted}} in ''{{Everworld}};'' when [[TokenEvilTeammate Senna]] was a child her mom went through a Wiccan phase. While both mother and daughter are legitimately witches, Senna could always tell that this was her mother ''trying'' to find a connection between their powers and spirituality where it didn't actually exist.

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* {{Subverted}} in ''{{Everworld}};'' ''Literature/{{Everworld}};'' when [[TokenEvilTeammate Senna]] was a child her mom went through a Wiccan phase. While both mother and daughter are legitimately witches, Senna could always tell that this was her mother ''trying'' to find a connection between their powers and spirituality where it didn't actually exist.
19th Sep '16 1:21:08 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* ''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': The magic used by priests is different from the magic used by laymen in that the priest substitutes "faith" for "will power" in the Three Laws of Magic system. A sufficiently devout priest can even ignore a lack of {{mana}} under the right circumstances. Lady Sias Daichi, for instance, can cast high level earth and gravity magic in Ceiha (a land without mana) because she lives like a cloistered nun on Mount Daichi.

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* ''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': The magic used by priests is different from the magic used by laymen in that the priest substitutes uses "faith" for in place of "will power" in the Three Laws of Magic system. A sufficiently devout priest can even ignore a lack of {{mana}} under the right circumstances. Lady Sias Daichi, for instance, can cast high level earth and gravity magic in Ceiha (a land without mana) because she lives like a cloistered nun on Mount Daichi.
9th Sep '16 7:29:26 PM Art199
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The Bible began to split the two concepts apart -- it mentions followers of "false gods" being able to perform magic, usually in contrast to much more impressive miracles performed by God (and explicitly ''not'' performed by the prophet himself), but generally explains this as power granted [[DealWithTheDevil by the Devil]].

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The Bible began to split the two concepts apart -- it mentions followers of "false gods" being able to perform magic, usually in contrast to much more impressive miracles miracles(though this can be said to be a type of magic) performed by God (and explicitly ''not'' performed by the prophet himself), but generally explains this as power granted [[DealWithTheDevil by the Devil]].
6th Sep '16 1:15:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''FadingSuns'' setting allows priests of the various Church sects to perform "theurgic rites".

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* The ''FadingSuns'' ''TabletopGame/FadingSuns'' setting allows priests of the various Church sects to perform "theurgic rites".
4th Sep '16 9:15:21 AM Kakuzan
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NOTE: When watching U.S. films or stand-up comedy acts from the 1970s and 1980s, it's a good idea to remember that most of the jokes about Jews were written by Jewish writers kidding each other, most of the jokes about Catholics were written by Catholic writers having fun, most of the jokes about Hindus were written by Hindu writers enjoying themselves, etc., all in the name of RuleOfCool and RuleOfFunny. Though they may seem insensitive or insulting to some modern viewers, they were written at a time when religion in the United States was far less politicized and people were not so [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad easily offended]]. Jewish comedy filmmaker [[WordOfGod Mel]] [[MelBrooks Brooks]] has talked about his many film's Jewish jokes being celebrated in the 1970s and 1980s, yet today, people have accused him of anti-Semitism for his political incorrectness.

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NOTE: When watching U.S. films or stand-up comedy acts from the 1970s and 1980s, it's a good idea to remember that most of the jokes about Jews were written by Jewish writers kidding each other, most of the jokes about Catholics were written by Catholic writers having fun, most of the jokes about Hindus were written by Hindu writers enjoying themselves, etc., all in the name of RuleOfCool and RuleOfFunny. Though they may seem insensitive or insulting to some modern viewers, they were written at a time when religion in the United States was far less politicized and people were not so [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad easily offended]]. Jewish comedy filmmaker [[WordOfGod Mel]] [[MelBrooks Brooks]] has talked about his many film's Jewish jokes being celebrated in the 1970s and 1980s, yet today, people have accused him of anti-Semitism for his political incorrectness.
12th Aug '16 2:39:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Themovie ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheWitchsGhost'' had a field day with this one. (Or possibly ''[[TheyJustDidntCare several]]'' [[TheyJustDidntCare field days]].) First, it treats {{Wicca}} as an inherited trait with one character claiming she's one-sixteenth Wiccan. [[WitchSpecies Second, it automatically treats Wiccans as good while witches (and warlocks) are automatically evil.]] Third, it implies there were Wiccans around in the 1600s (and probably living in a Puritan village, no less!).\\

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* Themovie ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheWitchsGhost'' had a field day with this one. (Or possibly ''[[TheyJustDidntCare several]]'' [[TheyJustDidntCare ''several'' field days]].days.) First, it treats {{Wicca}} as an inherited trait with one character claiming she's one-sixteenth Wiccan. [[WitchSpecies Second, it automatically treats Wiccans as good while witches (and warlocks) are automatically evil.]] Third, it implies there were Wiccans around in the 1600s (and probably living in a Puritan village, no less!).\\
10th Aug '16 8:36:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' the "shadow man" proclaims his skills with voodoo, hoodoo, and things he ain't even tried. He appears to be a basic fortuneteller and minor peddler of spells, until his plans get under way.
* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'', where the priests' "powers" are nothing more than showmanship and sleight-of-hand tricks. Played straight with Moses's miracles.
* Themovie ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheWitchsGhost'' had a field day with this one. (Or possibly ''[[TheyJustDidntCare several]]'' [[TheyJustDidntCare field days]].) First, it treats {{Wicca}} as an inherited trait with one character claiming she's one-sixteenth Wiccan. [[WitchSpecies Second, it automatically treats Wiccans as good while witches (and warlocks) are automatically evil.]] Third, it implies there were Wiccans around in the 1600s (and probably living in a Puritan village, no less!).\\
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These ''could'' be intended as a TakeThat at "fluffy bunnies" or "[=McWiccans=]." Many of these "wanna-blessed-be's" think that Wicca actually ''is'' an inherited trait, and that the Salem witch trials as part of the "Burning Times" in which innocent women were burned at the stake for practicing the "old religion". In reality, both innocent men and women were accused of devil-worship and not pagan religious practices. The confusion comes in because at many times in history they were treated as synonymous. In Salem, the execution method of choice was hanging, not burning--although Giles Corey was pressed to death in the effort to extract confession.
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* In ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' the "shadow man" proclaims his skills with voodoo, hoodoo, and things he ain't even tried. He appears to be a basic fortuneteller and minor peddler of spells, until his plans get under way.



* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'', where the priests' "powers" are nothing more than showmanship and sleight-of-hand tricks. Played straight with Moses's miracles.



* The ''ScoobyDoo'' movie ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheWitchsGhost'' had a field day with this one. (Or possibly ''[[TheyJustDidntCare several]]'' [[TheyJustDidntCare field days]].) First, it treats {{Wicca}} as an inherited trait with one character claiming she's one-sixteenth Wiccan. [[WitchSpecies Second, it automatically treats Wiccans as good while witches (and warlocks) are automatically evil.]] Third, it implies there were Wiccans around in the 1600s (and probably living in a Puritan village, no less!).\\
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These ''could'' be intended as a TakeThat at "fluffy bunnies" or "[=McWiccans=]." Many of these "wanna-blessed-be's" think that Wicca actually ''is'' an inherited trait, and that the Salem witch trials as part of the "Burning Times" in which innocent women were burned at the stake for practicing the "old religion". In reality, both innocent men and women were accused of devil-worship and not pagan religious practices. The confusion comes in because at many times in history they were treated as synonymous. In Salem, the execution method of choice was hanging, not burning--although Giles Corey was pressed to death in the effort to extract confession.
31st Jul '16 1:35:35 PM nombretomado
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* Ragman, from DCComics, gains his powers from a Judaic artifact ceated as a replacement for the golem of Prague.
* In comics, there's Brother Voodoo for [[MarvelComics Marvel]] and Empress for [[TheDCU DC]]. Then again, at least both characters go to the effort to name check the Loa they're invoking. The Houngan, on the other hand, an old DC character, used techno-voodoo. How a syncretic religion like voudon got boiled down to zapping little Robo Sapien dolls with a soldering iron is a little mind-straining.

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* Ragman, from DCComics, Creator/DCComics, gains his powers from a Judaic artifact ceated created as a replacement for the golem of Prague.
* In comics, there's Brother Voodoo for [[MarvelComics [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] and Empress for [[TheDCU [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]. Then again, at least both characters go to the effort to name check the Loa they're invoking. The Houngan, on the other hand, an old DC character, used techno-voodoo. How a syncretic religion like voudon got boiled down to zapping little Robo Sapien dolls with a soldering iron is a little mind-straining.
10th Jul '16 3:52:20 PM Seth_Phoenix2000
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* Paladins are holy knights who wield the grace of their Gods to both Smite Evil (one of their most recognized abilities) and heal allies with Lay on Hands before they even get their first spells.
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