History Main / RealWomenHaveCurves

21st Jan '17 4:47:09 AM arnoldmcguire335
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Meghan Trainor's ''All About That Bass'' is this.

to:

* Meghan Trainor's Music/MeghanTrainor's ''All About That Bass'' is this.
20th Sep '16 8:39:00 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Note that for centuries, this was ''the'' standard body image among Western women. Specifically, women were expected to be plump and curvy; this was held up as the ''nec plus ultra'' of feminine beauty and sexual allure (Elizabethan women [[TruthInTelevision had]] ''[[TruthInTelevision such]]'' [[TruthInTelevision tiny waists]]). [[http://www.judgmentofparis.com/Lillian1.htm Lillian Russell]] is a perfect case in point; at the height of her fame in the 1890s, she hit 200 pounds at one point -- and was considered the archetype of American beauty. Body image began to change to a more slender ideal circa 1910, but the real switch to "pencil thin" didn't happen until after WorldWarI, or during the RoaringTwenties.

to:

Note that for centuries, this was ''the'' standard body image among Western women. Specifically, women were expected to be plump and curvy; this was held up as the ''nec plus ultra'' of feminine beauty and sexual allure (Elizabethan women [[TruthInTelevision had]] ''[[TruthInTelevision such]]'' [[TruthInTelevision tiny waists]]). [[http://www.judgmentofparis.com/Lillian1.htm Lillian Russell]] is a perfect case in point; at the height of her fame in the 1890s, she hit 200 pounds at one point -- and was considered the archetype of American beauty. Body image began to change to a more slender ideal circa 1910, but the real switch to "pencil thin" didn't happen until after WorldWarI, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, or during the RoaringTwenties.
8th Jul '16 5:31:16 PM KidDynamite
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* When she first appeared in Wrestling/{{WWE}}, Nora Greenwald (aka "Wrestling/MollyHolly") wasn't explicitly sexualized or objectified like the other WWE Divas. Instead, she was created as being a [[NatureAdoresAVirgin chaste, virginous old-fashioned]] SouthernBelle with a CloserToEarth[=/=]GirlNextDoor demeanor, like someone the female audience could relate to and the male audience could feel protective of (even though she was more than capable of holding her own in the ring). This is because she was she possessed wider hips than the other Divas, and as a former power lifter, had more bulk and less lean muscle. Many storylines even had the other Divas bullying her because of her size and shape, in particular KarmaHoudini Wrestling/TrishStratus who kicked it off by telling Molly she had "junk in [her] trunk". (The worst part? Molly was a heel at this point of her career, so eventually the other Divas were ''[[MoralDissonance applauded]]'' [[MoralDissonance for taunting her]]!! WordOfGod is the whole angle was done to punish Molly (a devout Christian in real life) for refusing to flaunt her sexuality and be more of a Fanservice girl like most of the other Divas were at that time. What was really insulting was.that a RunningGag developed where Molly would be pantsed, revealing granny panties. Which she was forced to wear.

to:

* When she first appeared in Wrestling/{{WWE}}, Nora Greenwald (aka "Wrestling/MollyHolly") wasn't explicitly sexualized or objectified like the other WWE Divas. Instead, she was created as being a [[NatureAdoresAVirgin chaste, virginous old-fashioned]] SouthernBelle with a CloserToEarth[=/=]GirlNextDoor demeanor, like someone the female audience could relate to and the male audience could feel protective of (even though she was more than capable of holding her own in the ring). This is because she was she possessed wider hips than the other Divas, and as a former power lifter, had more bulk and less lean muscle. Many storylines even had the other Divas bullying her because of her size and shape, in particular KarmaHoudini Wrestling/TrishStratus who kicked it off by telling Molly she had "junk in [her] trunk". (The worst part? Molly was a heel at this point of her career, so eventually the other Divas were ''[[MoralDissonance applauded]]'' [[MoralDissonance for taunting her]]!! WordOfGod is the whole angle was done to punish Molly (a devout Christian in real life) for refusing to flaunt her sexuality and be more of a Fanservice girl like most of the other Divas were at that time. What was really insulting was.that a RunningGag developed where Molly would be pantsed, revealing granny panties. Which she was forced to wear.time.
23rd Jun '16 6:30:04 PM thecarolinabull01
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* When she first appeared in Wrestling/{{WWE}}, Nora Greenwald (aka "Wrestling/MollyHolly") wasn't explicitly sexualized or objectified like the other WWE Divas. Instead, she was created as being a [[NatureAdoresAVirgin chaste, virginous old-fashioned]] SouthernBelle with a CloserToEarth[=/=]GirlNextDoor demeanor, like someone the female audience could relate to and the male audience could feel protective of (even though she was more than capable of holding her own in the ring). This is because she was she possessed wider hips than the other Divas, and as a former power lifter, had more bulk and less lean muscle. Many storylines even had the other Divas bullying her because of her size and shape, in particular KarmaHoudini Wrestling/TrishStratus who kicked it off by telling Molly she had "junk in [her] trunk". (The worst part? Molly was a heel at this point of her career, so eventually the other Divas were ''[[MoralDissonance applauded]]'' [[MoralDissonance for taunting her]]!)
** WordOfGod is the whole angle was done to punish Molly (a devout Christian in real life) for refusing to flaunt her sexuality and be more of a Fanservice girl like most of the other Divas were at that time.
*** What was really insulting was.that a RunningGag developed where Molly would be pantsed, revealing granny panties. Which she was forced to wear.
* This was the defense Wrestling/MickieJames had when Wrestling/{{Lay Cool}} started with the "Piggy James" insults; that she was a well-built and fit woman rather than being a rail-thin supermodel wannabe ValleyGirl, which was actually pretty accurate. That is, when she could [[MotorMouth get a word in edge-wise]], and didn't just respond with a [[TalkToTheFist sound thrashing]]. Unfortunately, rumors abound that that was just a way to get [[AuthorTract the actual thoughts of the WWE staff on the air]], causing Mickie to leave the company before [[KarmaHoudini [=LayCool=] could get their comeuppance]].
** Mickie and Lay-Cool have both gone on record that the point of the storyline was WWE wanted to address the issue of bullying, not that it accomplished anything.
*** Management did believe she was too thick, though. Mickie had been wearing a skirt to [[{{Gainaxing}} bounce around in]] on her way to the ring, showing off her thighs. After her initial feud with TrishStratus, she was forced to switch to tights as they believed men wouldny find her attractive.

to:

* When she first appeared in Wrestling/{{WWE}}, Nora Greenwald (aka "Wrestling/MollyHolly") wasn't explicitly sexualized or objectified like the other WWE Divas. Instead, she was created as being a [[NatureAdoresAVirgin chaste, virginous old-fashioned]] SouthernBelle with a CloserToEarth[=/=]GirlNextDoor demeanor, like someone the female audience could relate to and the male audience could feel protective of (even though she was more than capable of holding her own in the ring). This is because she was she possessed wider hips than the other Divas, and as a former power lifter, had more bulk and less lean muscle. Many storylines even had the other Divas bullying her because of her size and shape, in particular KarmaHoudini Wrestling/TrishStratus who kicked it off by telling Molly she had "junk in [her] trunk". (The worst part? Molly was a heel at this point of her career, so eventually the other Divas were ''[[MoralDissonance applauded]]'' [[MoralDissonance for taunting her]]!)
**
her]]!! WordOfGod is the whole angle was done to punish Molly (a devout Christian in real life) for refusing to flaunt her sexuality and be more of a Fanservice girl like most of the other Divas were at that time.
***
time. What was really insulting was.that a RunningGag developed where Molly would be pantsed, revealing granny panties. Which she was forced to wear.
* This was the defense Wrestling/MickieJames had when Wrestling/{{Lay Cool}} started with the "Piggy James" insults; that she was a well-built and fit woman rather than being a rail-thin supermodel wannabe ValleyGirl, which was actually pretty accurate. That is, when she could [[MotorMouth get a word in edge-wise]], and didn't just respond with a [[TalkToTheFist sound thrashing]]. Unfortunately, rumors abound that that was just a way to get [[AuthorTract the actual thoughts of the WWE staff on the air]], causing Mickie to leave the company before [[KarmaHoudini [=LayCool=] could get their comeuppance]].
**
comeuppance]]. Mickie and Lay-Cool have both gone on record that the point of the storyline was WWE wanted to address the issue of bullying, not that it accomplished anything.
***
anything. Management did believe she was too thick, though. Mickie had been wearing a skirt to [[{{Gainaxing}} bounce around in]] on her way to the ring, showing off her thighs. After her initial feud with TrishStratus, she was forced to switch to tights as they believed men wouldny wouldn't find her attractive.attractive, which many male fans would strongly disagree with.
14th May '16 7:30:54 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Sara Rue as Claude Casey on ''LessThanPerfect''. In 2009 she signed a lucrative deal with Jenny Craig and dropped fifty pounds.

to:

* Sara Rue as Claude Casey on ''LessThanPerfect''.''Series/LessThanPerfect''. In 2009 she signed a lucrative deal with Jenny Craig and dropped fifty pounds.



* LizzieMcGuire is often contrasted with Kate, the thinner [[TheCheerleader cheerleader]] and AlphaBitch, with Lizzie cast as a more relatable GirlNextDoor.
* In ''ThatsSoRaven'', Raven gets a VerySpecialEpisode where she models, and objects to the men's attempts to Photoshop her to look thinner.

to:

* LizzieMcGuire Series/LizzieMcGuire is often contrasted with Kate, the thinner [[TheCheerleader cheerleader]] and AlphaBitch, with Lizzie cast as a more relatable GirlNextDoor.
* In ''ThatsSoRaven'', ''Series/ThatsSoRaven'', Raven gets a VerySpecialEpisode where she models, and objects to the men's attempts to Photoshop her to look thinner.
9th Mar '16 8:39:12 AM KingZeal
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel 2014}}: Kamala, who is very much an AudienceSurrogate, originally fantasized about being like Carol Danvers, who fits conventional beauty standards, including weight. After using her powers to look as close to Danvers as possible, she realizes how uncomfortable the uniform is and how her natural body shape is incompatible with that ideal.

to:

* ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel 2014}}: 2014}}'': Kamala, who is very much an AudienceSurrogate, originally fantasized about being like Carol Danvers, who fits conventional beauty standards, including weight. After using her powers to look as close to Danvers as possible, she realizes how uncomfortable the uniform is and how her natural body shape is incompatible with that ideal.
9th Mar '16 8:38:54 AM KingZeal
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

[[/folder]]
9th Mar '16 8:38:42 AM KingZeal
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

[[folder:Comic Books]]
* ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel 2014}}: Kamala, who is very much an AudienceSurrogate, originally fantasized about being like Carol Danvers, who fits conventional beauty standards, including weight. After using her powers to look as close to Danvers as possible, she realizes how uncomfortable the uniform is and how her natural body shape is incompatible with that ideal.
9th Mar '16 5:41:25 AM KingZeal
Is there an issue? Send a Message


As such, this is somewhat of a CyclicTrope alongside its thin and lithe inverse, changing from one to the other every 10 to 20 years or so. For example, TheSixties and to a lesser extent TheSeventies were marked by a thin, ballerina-like ideal (e.g., Audrey Hepburn, Twiggy, Liz Montgomery, even a younger Marilyn Monroe) and/or toned and fit (Farrah Fawcett and Olivia Newton John), following a fad for "va-va-voom" voluptuousness in the Forties through mid-Fifties (e.g., Mae West, Betty Grable), which in turn had supplanted the slender look of TheRoaringTwenties and TheThirties. TheEighties brought bustier sex symbols, while TheNineties brought in the Heroin Chic, with extremely skinny models raising concerns regarding eating disorders in the later years of TheOughts. Finally in the 2010s, "padded" and even flat-out overweight sizes have been brought into mainstream appeal.

to:

As such, this is somewhat of a CyclicTrope alongside its thin and lithe inverse, changing from one to the other every 10 to 20 years or so. For example, TheSixties and to a lesser extent TheSeventies were marked by a thin, ballerina-like ideal (e.g., Audrey Hepburn, Twiggy, Liz Montgomery, even a younger Marilyn Monroe) and/or toned and fit (Farrah Fawcett and Olivia Newton John), following a fad for "va-va-voom" voluptuousness in the Forties through mid-Fifties (e.g., Mae West, Betty Grable), which in turn had supplanted the slender look of TheRoaringTwenties and TheThirties. TheEighties brought bustier sex symbols, while TheNineties brought in the Heroin Chic, with extremely skinny models raising concerns regarding eating disorders in the later years of TheOughts. Finally in the 2010s, "padded" and even flat-out overweight "plus" sizes have been brought into mainstream appeal.
8th Mar '16 7:41:30 PM erics
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** What was really insulting was.that a RunningGag developed where Molly would be pantsed, revealing granny panties. Which she was forced to wear.


Added DiffLines:

*** Management did believe she was too thick, though. Mickie had been wearing a skirt to [[{{Gainaxing}} bounce around in]] on her way to the ring, showing off her thighs. After her initial feud with TrishStratus, she was forced to switch to tights as they believed men wouldny find her attractive.
This list shows the last 10 events of 94. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.RealWomenHaveCurves