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20th Feb '17 10:22:08 AM mandalorianrepairman
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Would'nt that mean that real men don't wear pants?
9th Jan '17 2:19:30 PM Az_Tech341
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Recess}}'' addresses the trope in the episode "That Sinking Feeling" where LadEtte Spinelli's reputation is ruined when it's discovered she has a crush. Miss Finster of all people gives her a good talk about this - "Women of power like us, we're not allowed to have emotions - but Spinelli proves that liking boys doesn't make her any less of a person. Later on she comes to enjoy the dance lessons her mother enrols her in.

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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Recess}}'' addresses the trope in the episode "That Sinking Feeling" where LadEtte Spinelli's reputation is ruined when it's discovered she has a crush. Miss Finster of all people gives her a good talk about this - "Women of power like us, we're not allowed to have emotions emotions." - but Spinelli proves that liking boys doesn't make her any less of a person. Later on she comes to enjoy the dance lessons her mother enrols her in.
9th Jan '17 11:41:53 AM fearlessnikki
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** Rough and Tumble Tomboys Rainbow Dash and Applejack are not any more competent or effective than the rest of the cast in a crisis (sometimes even ''[[TheWorfEffect less]]'' so).
*** And neither of them hesitates for more than a moment to wear the dresses offered by Rarity, to help her by appearing in a fashion show, or get fancy when the occasion, such as the Grand Galloping Gala, calls for it. If there is any resistance, it's usually that Applejack finds the dress impractical (being born and raised on an apple farm), rather than it being too feminine.
*** Applejack is also the TeamMom of the Mane 6.

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** Rough and Tumble Tomboys Rainbow Dash and Applejack are not any more competent or effective than the rest of the cast in a crisis (sometimes even ''[[TheWorfEffect less]]'' so). \n*** And neither of them hesitates for more than a moment to wear the dresses offered by Rarity, to help her by appearing in a fashion show, or get fancy when the occasion, such as the Grand Galloping Gala, calls for it. If there is any resistance, it's usually that Applejack finds the dress impractical (being born and raised on an apple farm), rather than it being too feminine.
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feminine. The episode "Simple Ways" shows she can look [[SheCleansUpNicely very nice indeed]] if she wants to. And Applejack is also the TeamMom of the Mane 6. group.


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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Recess}}'' addresses the trope in the episode "That Sinking Feeling" where LadEtte Spinelli's reputation is ruined when it's discovered she has a crush. Miss Finster of all people gives her a good talk about this - "Women of power like us, we're not allowed to have emotions - but Spinelli proves that liking boys doesn't make her any less of a person. Later on she comes to enjoy the dance lessons her mother enrols her in.
8th Dec '16 1:46:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' generally avoids this very well, but the story "Horror of Fang Rock" spends a lot of time contrasting the girly, ineffectual ScreamingWoman Adelaide with the BadAss KnifeNut companion Leela. For instance, the serial also goes out of its way to show Leela changing her uberfeminine [[ChangedMyJumper 1910s dress]] for male clothing, and strong attention is placed on a sequence in which Leela [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan slaps Adelaide in the face]] (at a time when it was still normal to show male characters slapping female ones in media). To be fair, this was being done to show how badass Leela was compared to traditional companions as well.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' generally avoids this very well, but the story "Horror of Fang Rock" spends a lot of time contrasting the girly, ineffectual ScreamingWoman Adelaide with the BadAss badass KnifeNut companion Leela. For instance, the serial also goes out of its way to show Leela changing her uberfeminine [[ChangedMyJumper 1910s dress]] for male clothing, and strong attention is placed on a sequence in which Leela [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan slaps Adelaide in the face]] (at a time when it was still normal to show male characters slapping female ones in media). To be fair, this was being done to show how badass Leela was compared to traditional companions as well.
20th Nov '16 4:00:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''Spy High'' series, where beautiful, blonde, fashionable Lori is the most ruthless of TheTeam, especially when provoked; the less looks-conscious Cally is TheHeart and eventually wins the love of leading man Ben. Bex, the biggest ActionGirl of the team, rejects feminine dress and looks completely; with punk clothes, many piercings, and short spiky [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair green hair]].

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* The ''Spy High'' ''Literature/SpyHigh'' series, where beautiful, blonde, fashionable Lori is the most ruthless of TheTeam, especially when provoked; the less looks-conscious Cally is TheHeart and eventually wins the love of leading man Ben. Bex, the biggest ActionGirl of the team, rejects feminine dress and looks completely; with punk clothes, many piercings, and short spiky [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair green hair]].



* Played with in ''{{Mistborn}}''- heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a badass.

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* Played with in ''{{Mistborn}}''- ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}''- heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a badass.



** "The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe" concludes by saying, in a nutshell, that the two queens (with their appropriately royal dresses) were just as effective and beloved as the two kings.
** In ''The Last Battle'' Susan Pevensie becomes "no longer a friend of Narnia" and the only mention of why is a line saying she's only interested in "lipstick, nylons and invitations". Many readers take this as criticism of female sexuality though CS Lewis said of Susan "The books don't tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But there's plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan's country in the end... in her own way" which, coupled with things other characters say suggest her fault is trying too hard to grow up and forgetting her childhood. The other female characters Lucy, Jill and Polly aren't said to be any less feminine than Susan.

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** "The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe" ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' concludes by saying, in a nutshell, that the two queens (with their appropriately royal dresses) were just as effective and beloved as the two kings.
** In ''The Last Battle'' ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' Susan Pevensie becomes "no longer a friend of Narnia" and the only mention of why is a line saying she's only interested in "lipstick, nylons and invitations". Many readers take this as criticism of female sexuality though CS Lewis said of Susan "The books don't tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But there's plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan's country in the end... in her own way" which, coupled with things other characters say suggest her fault is trying too hard to grow up and forgetting her childhood. The other female characters Lucy, Jill and Polly aren't said to be any less feminine than Susan.



* In the ''Sophie'' series by Dick King-Smith, protagonist Sophie is a tomboyish, animal-loving little girl who always looks untidy, and wears jeans and rubber boots. Her designated enemy, the prissy Dawn, wears dresses and pigtails and is mocked by Sophie for being vain.

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* In the ''Sophie'' ''Literature/{{Sophie}}'' series by Dick King-Smith, protagonist Sophie is a tomboyish, animal-loving little girl who always looks untidy, and wears jeans and rubber boots. Her designated enemy, the prissy Dawn, wears dresses and pigtails and is mocked by Sophie for being vain.



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20th Nov '16 3:59:43 AM Morgenthaler
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** In the first quartet, ''Litearture/SongOfTheLioness'', Alanna starts out hating the fact that she's a girl and wishing she were a boy because she wants to be a knight. She tells her brother that part part of her motivation for the switch is to go towards knighthood and away from ladyhood. Part of her CharacterDevelopment is coming to accept and enjoy her femininity even in the midst of her ''eight-year-long'' stint as a SweetPollyOliver. It does not detract in the least from the fact that she is {{Badass}} and becomes a legendary knight--in the last book, her current lover Liam pitches a fit over her wearing a dress at one point because he can't fit her into a neat stereotype box when she's a warrior ''and'' feminine, serving as a portent to their eventual breakup.

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** In the first quartet, ''Litearture/SongOfTheLioness'', Alanna starts out hating the fact that she's a girl and wishing she were a boy because she wants to be a knight. She tells her brother that part part of her motivation for the switch is to go towards knighthood and away from ladyhood. Part of her CharacterDevelopment is coming to accept and enjoy her femininity even in the midst of her ''eight-year-long'' stint as a SweetPollyOliver. It does not detract in the least from the fact that she is {{Badass}} badass and becomes a legendary knight--in the last book, her current lover Liam pitches a fit over her wearing a dress at one point because he can't fit her into a neat stereotype box when she's a warrior ''and'' feminine, serving as a portent to their eventual breakup.



* Played with in ''{{Mistborn}}''- heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a {{Badass}}.

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* Played with in ''{{Mistborn}}''- heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a {{Badass}}.badass.
12th Nov '16 5:27:30 AM fearlessnikki
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* ''{{Series/Supergirl 2015}}''
** Alex is a tomboyish DEO agent with BoyishShortHair and very masculine clothes (save for one episode where she dolls herself up to go on a [[DatingCatwoman date to extract information from the villain]]). A flashback to her past - where she was in a bad place and her life was spiralling out of control - shows her with long feminine RapunzelHair and girly nightclub wear.
** While Kara is not necessarily tomboyish, when she gets hit with RedKryptonite, her FaceHeelTurn is illustrated by her wearing more high-fashion outfits, [[MakeUpIsEvil more make-up]] and styling her hair more fashionably.
10th Nov '16 11:05:59 AM Berrenta
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' generally avoids this very well, but the story "Horror of Fang Rock" spends a lot of time contrasting the girly, ineffectual ScreamingWoman Adelaide with the BadAss KnifeNut companion Leela. For instance, the serial also goes out of its way to show Leela changing her uberfeminine [[ChangedMyJumper 1910s dress]] for male clothing, and strong attention is placed on a sequence in which Leela [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan slaps Adelaide in the face]] (at a time when it was still normal to show male characters slapping female ones in media). To be fair, this was being done to show how [[GirlsNeedRoleModels badass Leela was compared to traditional companions]] as well.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' generally avoids this very well, but the story "Horror of Fang Rock" spends a lot of time contrasting the girly, ineffectual ScreamingWoman Adelaide with the BadAss KnifeNut companion Leela. For instance, the serial also goes out of its way to show Leela changing her uberfeminine [[ChangedMyJumper 1910s dress]] for male clothing, and strong attention is placed on a sequence in which Leela [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan slaps Adelaide in the face]] (at a time when it was still normal to show male characters slapping female ones in media). To be fair, this was being done to show how [[GirlsNeedRoleModels badass Leela was compared to traditional companions]] companions as well.
29th Oct '16 5:53:09 PM nombretomado
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* {{Discussed}} on occasion by TheNostalgiaChick, who seems to regard this as a PetPeeveTrope. She's been known to call badly-done {{Action Girl}}s "{{Kate Beaton}}ian Strong Female Characters" (see above). In contrast, one of the things she liked about ''{{Disney/Frozen}}'' was that it trusted [[GenkiGirl Anna]] to carry the narrative without giving her inexplicable fighting skills.

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* {{Discussed}} on occasion by TheNostalgiaChick, who seems to regard this as a PetPeeveTrope. She's been known to call badly-done {{Action Girl}}s "{{Kate Beaton}}ian "Kate Beatonian Strong Female Characters" (see above). In contrast, one of the things she liked about ''{{Disney/Frozen}}'' was that it trusted [[GenkiGirl Anna]] to carry the narrative without giving her inexplicable fighting skills.
29th Oct '16 5:52:17 PM nombretomado
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* KateBeaton mocked this trope with [[http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=311 "Strong Female Characters"]].

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* KateBeaton Kate Beaton mocked this trope with [[http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=311 "Strong Female Characters"]].Characters"]] in ''Webcomic/HarkAVagrant''.
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