History Main / RealWomenDontWearDresses

19th Apr '17 9:09:48 PM Golondrina
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* Manga/{{Bleach}} discussed/inverted this with tomboy [[HeroOfAnotherStory Tatsuki]] and Orihime in the beginning, when Orihime has her speech about how it is her turn to protect Tatsuki instead of the other way around.

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* Manga/{{Bleach}} ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' discussed/inverted this with tomboy [[HeroOfAnotherStory Tatsuki]] and Orihime in the beginning, when Orihime has her speech about how it is her turn to protect Tatsuki instead of the other way around.



* In Discworld/FeetOfClay, Angua tells Cherry (a female dwarf) that you can be any gender you want in the Watch, as long as that gender is male. Immediately subverted when she recounts her own efforts to do so, telling bawdy jokes that caused the others to flee in terror. A later book has her and Nobbs on HoneyTrap duty, with ''[[{{Gonk}} Nobbs]]'' as the HoneyTrap. When she asks him why he's in the dress, Nobbs, DirtyCoward and NonActionGuy, has difficulty with the idea of Angua being the one to put herself in danger (plus, she ''was'' the backup).

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* In Discworld/FeetOfClay, ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'', Angua tells Cherry (a female dwarf) that you can be any gender you want in the Watch, as long as that gender is male. Immediately subverted when she recounts her own efforts to do so, telling bawdy jokes that caused the others to flee in terror. A later book has her and Nobbs on HoneyTrap duty, with ''[[{{Gonk}} Nobbs]]'' as the HoneyTrap. When she asks him why he's in the dress, Nobbs, DirtyCoward and NonActionGuy, has difficulty with the idea of Angua being the one to put herself in danger (plus, she ''was'' the backup).



* Jane Rizzoli of the Series/RizzoliAndIsles series is absolutely miserable and uncomfortable in the dresses she has to wear as her pregnancy progresses, as they're a far cry from the dowdy pantsuits that she prefers.

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* Jane Rizzoli of the Series/RizzoliAndIsles ''Series/RizzoliAndIsles'' series is absolutely miserable and uncomfortable in the dresses she has to wear as her pregnancy progresses, as they're a far cry from the dowdy pantsuits that she prefers.



* [[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]:[[spoiler: in one of the extras, Maria wears a dress. Gabe's response is to try to rip his eyes out.]]

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* [[VideoGame/TraumaCenter ''[[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]:[[spoiler: in Team]]'': [[spoiler:In one of the extras, Maria wears a dress. Gabe's response is to try to rip his eyes out.]]



Would'nt that mean that real men don't wear pants?

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Would'nt Wouldn't that mean that real men don't wear pants?
12th Apr '17 8:32:36 AM Argon2
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* In the 1883 manifesto ''A Few Hours in a Far Off Age'', the author claims that a woman cannot be interested in both fashion and politics, and in a later chapter equates earrings to '''torture devices'''.
9th Apr '17 5:34:10 PM nombretomado
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* In SaintSeiya, There are women Saints. ( There are very specific rules about that. ). Since only men were supposed to be Saints of Athena, a woman must wear a mask to reject her feminity. Being a god like Athena works too.

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* In SaintSeiya, There ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', there are women Saints. ( There are are, however, very specific rules about that. ). rules. Since only men were supposed to be Saints of Athena, a woman must wear a mask to reject her feminity.femininity. Being a god like Athena works too.
4th Apr '17 6:37:45 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* ZigZagged in Plato's ''Literature/TheRepublic'', where Socrates contends that women have the right to the same education and civic duties as men...just so long as they act identically to men. The idea of educating women the same as men was, however, [[FairForItsDay in its day, so highly progressive as to be considered ridiculous in Athens at the time.]]

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* ZigZagged in Plato's ''Literature/TheRepublic'', where Socrates contends that women have the right to the same education and civic duties as men... just so long as they act identically to men. The idea of educating women the same as men was, however, [[FairForItsDay in its day, so highly progressive as to be considered ridiculous in Athens at the time.]]



* ''Literature/TheAnderssons'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren developes a very strong pro-feminist message as the time goes by. And unfortunately, it ends up in the territory of this trope. Almost all the Andersson women have a career of their own, even if they are married and live in a time when married women were supposed to be housewives. Mandi is the only one out of four sisters to give up her career plans when she gets married, and she is punished for her "stupid" choice by ending up being abused by her husband ("that's what happens if you become dependant on a man, girls"). And the GirlyGirl Åsa is treated as a more whiny and prissy person than her {{Tomboy}} sister Saga. But it seems to go the other way around too, as all the men have to give up their machismo (or not be macho men in the first place) if they want to be portrayed in a positive light. So you can say that the message is that ''all'' traditional gender roles, both for women ''and'' men, are bad...

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* ''Literature/TheAnderssons'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren developes a very strong pro-feminist message as the time goes by. And unfortunately, it ends up in the territory of this trope. Almost all the Andersson women have a career of their own, even if they are married and live in a time when married women were supposed to be housewives. Mandi is the only one out of four sisters to give up her career plans when she gets married, and she is punished for her "stupid" choice by ending up being abused by her husband ("that's what happens if you become dependant on a man, girls"). And the GirlyGirl Åsa is treated as a more whiny and prissy person than her {{Tomboy}} sister Saga. But it seems to go the other way around too, as all the men have to give up their machismo (or not be macho men in the first place) if they want to be portrayed in a positive light. So you can say that the message is that ''all'' traditional gender roles, both for women ''and'' men, are bad... bad....



** Allecto somehow applies this to ''all'' of the female characters. She rags on Kaylee for having the [[SarcasmMode gall to want to hook up with Simon]], Zoe for...erm being married...? (she seems to think that all marriages ought to be celibate or something), and Inara for her profession. Neverminding the fact that Inara is the only one on the ship who makes a steady living.

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** Allecto somehow applies this to ''all'' of the female characters. She rags on Kaylee for having the [[SarcasmMode gall to want to hook up with Simon]], Zoe for... erm being married...? (she seems to think that all marriages ought to be celibate or something), and Inara for her profession. Neverminding the fact that Inara is the only one on the ship who makes a steady living.
27th Mar '17 10:25:45 AM supergod
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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, has a subtitle claiming it to be "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books."

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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells Creator/HGWells in 1913, has a subtitle claiming it to be "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books."
27th Mar '17 10:21:20 AM supergod
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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, advertised itself as "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books"
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27th Mar '17 10:20:57 AM supergod
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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, has a subtitle claiming it to be "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books."
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27th Mar '17 8:25:09 AM Madrugada
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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, advertised itself as "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books"
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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, advertised itself as "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books"
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27th Mar '17 6:10:12 AM supergod
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* In-Universe example in ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'', at one point it summarizes interviews between Karen (who's claiming the events are fictional), and a number of celebrities. One such celebrity is a feminist who chastises Karen's 'character's' nyctophobia, dismissing it with "No self-respecting woman is afraid of the dark".

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* In-Universe example in In ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'', at one point it summarizes interviews between Karen (who's claiming the events are fictional), and a number of celebrities. One such celebrity is a feminist who chastises Karen's 'character's' nyctophobia, dismissing it with "No self-respecting woman is afraid of the dark".



* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, advertised itself as "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for ''that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books''"

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* The first known wargame, ''Little Wars'', published by HGWells in 1913, advertised itself as "a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for ''that that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books''"books"



* In-universe example in [[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]:[[spoiler: in one of the extras, Maria wears a dress. Gabe's response is to try to rip his eyes out.]]
* An In-universe example in ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''. Just about the only thing the [[AmazonBrigade Valkryies]] of Ragnanival fear is getting married because it usually entails getting hit with a love spell and falling for the first man she sees (usually a man she is ''given'' to). Gwendolyn thankfully lucks out in that Oswald likes her just as she is, and is badass enough to beat down everyone else after her; she's ''not'' so lucky in that Oswald is a little too afraid of her ''not'' loving him if she finds out she was never under that spell to begin with and never tells her.

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* In-universe example in [[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]:[[spoiler: in one of the extras, Maria wears a dress. Gabe's response is to try to rip his eyes out.]]
* An In-universe example in ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''. Just about the only thing the [[AmazonBrigade Valkryies]] of Ragnanival fear is getting married because it usually entails getting hit with a love spell and falling for the first man she sees (usually a man she is ''given'' to). Gwendolyn thankfully lucks out in that Oswald likes her just as she is, and is badass enough to beat down everyone else after her; she's ''not'' so lucky in that Oswald is a little too afraid of her ''not'' loving him if she finds out she was never under that spell to begin with and never tells her.
27th Mar '17 5:58:23 AM supergod
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