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1st Feb '18 10:08:09 PM Chabal2
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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Rachel and Cassie are inversions of this trope. Rachel is the toughest, most blood-thirsty, aggressive warrior of TheTeam and also the more womanly compared to Cassie. She is often described as a leggy, well-dressed, beautiful blonde who loves to go shopping, cares a great deal about outward appearances, often insists on improving Cassie's wardrobe, and goes shopping for the group when clothes are needed on the fly. Cassie on the other hand is the more feminine in nature, broken-hearted for everything that ''breathes'', is the most hesitant to do battle and yet is the one who can't dress. In one story, Rachel gets a LiteralSplitPersonality, where she becomes a classic example: Nice Rachel is an ExtremeDoormat who plans out shopping trips like an invasion seeking pretty dresses, while Mean Rachel--[[TheBerserker who threatens to stab a girl who insulted her]]--shops [[HellBentForLeather only for leather]].

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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'':
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Rachel and Cassie are inversions of this trope. Rachel is the toughest, most blood-thirsty, aggressive warrior of TheTeam and also the more womanly compared to Cassie. She is often described as a leggy, well-dressed, beautiful blonde who loves to go shopping, cares a great deal about outward appearances, often insists on improving Cassie's wardrobe, and goes shopping for the group when clothes are needed on the fly. Cassie on the other hand is the more feminine in nature, broken-hearted for everything that ''breathes'', is the most hesitant to do battle and yet is the one who can't dress. dress.
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In one story, Rachel gets a LiteralSplitPersonality, where she becomes a classic example: Nice Rachel is an ExtremeDoormat who plans out shopping trips like an invasion seeking pretty dresses, while Mean Rachel--[[TheBerserker who threatens to stab a girl who insulted her]]--shops [[HellBentForLeather only for leather]].leather]]. At the end of the story they only escape because Mean Rachel has no choice but to listen to Nice Rachel to get out of a tra, although it's done in true Rachel fashion: by morphing fly and buzzing down Visser Three's ear canal and threatening to demorph right next to his brain if he doesn't let them out.
29th Jan '18 4:07:40 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Wouldn't that mean that real men don't wear pants? [[ViolentGlaswegian Just]] [[ManInAKilt maybe]].

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Wouldn't that mean that real men don't wear pants? [[ViolentGlaswegian [[BraveScot Just]] [[ManInAKilt maybe]].
20th Dec '17 5:58:59 PM Eievie
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'''Note:''' This is not an audience reaction trope. The trope is reserved for cases where a character is derided by another character in-universe for having traditionally feminine traits, or where the work itself ''clearly'' portrays femininity as a sign of weakness, incompetence or inferiority.

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'''Note:''' '''[[AC:Note:]]''' This is not an audience reaction trope. The trope is reserved for cases where a character is derided by another character in-universe for having traditionally feminine traits, or where the work itself ''clearly'' portrays femininity as a sign of weakness, incompetence or inferiority.



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--> "Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

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--> "Not -->'''Marston''': Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."



* Parodied as early as the 1950s, with "[[ProperLady perfect little lady]]" Janie Jackson teased and compared unfavorably to the superheroine Tomboy ("That's what I call a real girl!") by her older brother, who [[LovesMyAlterEgo never realised that Janie and Tomboy were the same person.]]

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* Parodied as early as the 1950s, with "[[ProperLady perfect [[ProperLady "perfect little lady]]" lady"]] Janie Jackson teased and compared unfavorably to the superheroine Tomboy ("That's what I call a real girl!") by her older brother, who [[LovesMyAlterEgo never realised that Janie and Tomboy were the same person.]]



* Bendis' run on ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen'' mentions this trope. The female recruits are ashamed of wanting to go shopping "like normal girls". For- shock horror- ''clothes''. And ''soap''. And ''books''. They have a whole spiel justifying it, but their teachers (of both genders) understand immediately and consider it a good idea.

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* Bendis' run on ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen'' mentions this trope. The female recruits are ashamed of wanting to go shopping "like normal girls". For- shock horror- ''clothes''.For--shock horror--''clothes''. And ''soap''. And ''books''. They have a whole spiel justifying it, but their teachers (of both genders) understand immediately and consider it a good idea.



* It’s common in fanfiction that the male lead chooses the {{Tomboy}} over the GirlyGirl because the latter is considered “weak” for liking fashion, make-up, shopping and other feminine things. According to shippers, women are superior when they're outgoing, emotionless, can put up a fight, and most importantly, [[TitleDrop don’t wear dresses]]. Girly girls, on the other hand, are stripped away of their personality so that they only cry, whine and care about their appearances, making the male lead ([[AmazonChaser and other men]]) make a beeline for the tomboy. This only happens to the girly girl because, in the eyes of the author, a skirt automatically makes her a doormat -- [[DieForOurShip and the tomboy "deserves" the cool love interest]].
** It's also common in fanfiction to see the inversion: the tomboyish ActionGirl, or even a girl who just doesn't care about her looks, undergoes a makeover (or [[SheIsAllGrownUp hits a growth spurt]]) and suddenly develops an interest in fashion and flirting, and she turns into an eyelash-batting [[PossessionSue avatar of the writer's wishes and dreams.]] This was even a joke in the HarryPotter fandom, that any fanfic that started out with "Hermione had changed a lot over the summer..." will not be good.

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* It’s common in fanfiction that the male lead chooses the {{Tomboy}} over the GirlyGirl because the latter is considered “weak” for liking fashion, make-up, shopping and other feminine things. According to shippers, women are superior when they're outgoing, emotionless, can put up a fight, and most importantly, [[TitleDrop don’t wear dresses]]. Girly girls, on the other hand, are stripped away of their personality so that they only cry, whine and care about their appearances, making the male lead ([[AmazonChaser and other men]]) make a beeline for the tomboy. This only happens to the girly girl because, in the eyes of the author, a skirt automatically makes her a doormat -- [[DieForOurShip and the tomboy "deserves" the cool love interest]].
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It's also common in fanfiction to see the inversion: the tomboyish ActionGirl, or even a girl who just doesn't care about her looks, undergoes a makeover (or [[SheIsAllGrownUp hits a growth spurt]]) and suddenly develops an interest in fashion and flirting, and she turns into an eyelash-batting [[PossessionSue avatar of the writer's wishes and dreams.]] This was even a joke in the HarryPotter fandom, that any fanfic that started out with "Hermione had changed a lot over the summer..." will not be good. good.



* In ''Film/SmallSoldiers'' Alan's mother is contrasted with Kristy's. Alan's has short hair, mostly wears pants and when the Commandos attack she fights them off. Kristy's mother is long haired, notably spends most of the film [[PinkMeansFeminine in a pink dressing gown]] and willingly hides in the closet when the Commandos are attacking. Also Kristy is presented as a bit of a LadEtte which is shown as a very positive thing. Especially when her Gwendy dolls (which she admits she has always hated) come to life - they are presented as GirlyBruiser fighters and Kristy takes great delight in smashing them up. Nothing at all symbolic about a teenage girl smashing up her doll collection eh?
* ''Film/InAWorld...'': Real Women Don't Talk Like Sexy Babies. The main character starts a voice training course to help women speak in such a way as to be taken seriously as professionals. Which, judging by what we see onscreen, mostly consists of speaking in a lower register... in other words, [[UnfortunateImplications more like a man.]]

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* In ''Film/SmallSoldiers'' Alan's mother is contrasted with Kristy's. Alan's has short hair, mostly wears pants and when the Commandos attack she fights them off. Kristy's mother is long haired, notably spends most of the film [[PinkMeansFeminine in a pink dressing gown]] and willingly hides in the closet when the Commandos are attacking. Also Kristy is presented as a bit of a LadEtte which is shown as a very positive thing. Especially when her Gwendy dolls (which she admits she has always hated) come to life - they life--they are presented as GirlyBruiser fighters and Kristy takes great delight in smashing them up. Nothing at all symbolic about a teenage girl smashing up her doll collection eh?
* ''Film/InAWorld...'': Real Women Don't Talk Like Sexy Babies. The main character starts a voice training course to help women speak in such a way as to be taken seriously as professionals. Which, judging by what we see onscreen, mostly consists of speaking in a lower register... in other words, [[UnfortunateImplications more like a man.]]man]].



* The female classmates of Elle Woods in ''Film/LegallyBlonde'' hold similar views. Although none of the women are butch -Not even the StrawFeminist- they are prejudiced against the main character's [[GirlyGirl ridiculously girly outfits]] and her [[PinkMeansFeminine fondess of pink]]. They all adopt a sober, toned down style and minimal make up, and of course, they consider Elle to be a shallow DumbBlonde without any of the skills or abilities needed for Law School. Elle started to change her fashion sense and attitudes to merge with the other students and look more mature and professional, but it didn't work for her. She started to feel repressed and uncomfortable, and anyway it did little to change the way the other students saw her. In the end, Elle just destroys the prejudices by becoming a successful and smart lawyer while still retaining her girliness, although her style changed from that of a ridiculously girly - and childish - teenager to a feminine young adult.
* Subverted in the ''Film/ResidentEvil'', where the character Alice spends the film wearing a little red dress - and combat boots - while kicking zombie dogs in the head. It was an interesting contrast to the ultra-tough [[VasquezAlwaysDies Rain Ocampo]], who wears full black combat gear.

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* The female classmates of Elle Woods in ''Film/LegallyBlonde'' hold similar views. Although none of the women are butch -Not butch--not even the StrawFeminist- they StrawFeminist--they are prejudiced against the main character's [[GirlyGirl ridiculously girly outfits]] and her [[PinkMeansFeminine fondess of pink]]. They all adopt a sober, toned down style and minimal make up, and of course, they consider Elle to be a shallow DumbBlonde without any of the skills or abilities needed for Law School. Elle started to change her fashion sense and attitudes to merge with the other students and look more mature and professional, but it didn't work for her. She started to feel repressed and uncomfortable, and anyway it did little to change the way the other students saw her. In the end, Elle just destroys the prejudices by becoming a successful and smart lawyer while still retaining her girliness, although her style changed from that of a ridiculously girly - and childish - teenager girly--and childish--teenager to a feminine young adult.
* Subverted in the ''Film/ResidentEvil'', where the character Alice spends the film wearing a little red dress - and dress--and combat boots - while boots--while kicking zombie dogs in the head. It was an interesting contrast to the ultra-tough [[VasquezAlwaysDies Rain Ocampo]], who wears full black combat gear.



* If you want to recognize this trope in romantic novels and/or novels set in other historical periods, look at the female protagonist carefully. Many, MANY authors fall in the trap of trying to make a heroine you can relate to... by having her look down on other women for "being so submissive and stupid" or "losing their time sewing and doing stupid feminine things".

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* If you want to recognize this trope in romantic novels and/or novels set in other historical periods, look at the female protagonist carefully. Many, MANY ''many'' authors fall in the trap of trying to make a heroine you can relate to... by having her look down on other women for "being so submissive and stupid" or "losing their time sewing and doing stupid feminine things".



* In ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'', at one point it summarizes interviews between Karen (who's claiming the events are fictional), and a number of celebrities. One such celebrity is a feminist who chastises Karen's 'character's' nyctophobia, dismissing it with "No self-respecting woman is afraid of the dark".

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* In ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'', at one point it summarizes interviews between Karen (who's claiming the events are fictional), and a number of celebrities. One such celebrity is a feminist who chastises Karen's 'character's' "character's" nyctophobia, dismissing it with "No self-respecting woman is afraid of the dark".dark."



* Rachel and Cassie are inversions of this trope in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. Rachel is the toughest, most blood-thirsty, aggressive warrior of TheTeam and also the more womanly compared to Cassie. She is often described as a leggy, well-dressed, beautiful blonde who loves to go shopping, cares a great deal about outward appearances, often insists on improving Cassie's wardrobe, and goes shopping for the group when clothes are needed on the fly. Cassie on the other hand is the more feminine in nature, broken-hearted for everything that ''breathes'', is the most hesitant to do battle and yet is the one who can't dress.
** In one story, Rachel gets a LiteralSplitPersonality, where she becomes a classic example: Nice Rachel is an ExtremeDoormat who plans out shopping trips like an invasion seeking pretty dresses, while Mean Rachel - [[TheBerserker who threatens to stab a girl who insulted her]] - shops [[HellBentForLeather only for leather]].

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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Rachel and Cassie are inversions of this trope in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series.trope. Rachel is the toughest, most blood-thirsty, aggressive warrior of TheTeam and also the more womanly compared to Cassie. She is often described as a leggy, well-dressed, beautiful blonde who loves to go shopping, cares a great deal about outward appearances, often insists on improving Cassie's wardrobe, and goes shopping for the group when clothes are needed on the fly. Cassie on the other hand is the more feminine in nature, broken-hearted for everything that ''breathes'', is the most hesitant to do battle and yet is the one who can't dress.
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dress. In one story, Rachel gets a LiteralSplitPersonality, where she becomes a classic example: Nice Rachel is an ExtremeDoormat who plans out shopping trips like an invasion seeking pretty dresses, while Mean Rachel - [[TheBerserker Rachel--[[TheBerserker who threatens to stab a girl who insulted her]] - shops her]]--shops [[HellBentForLeather only for leather]].



--> '''Lord Wyldon''': If only you'd been born a boy, Mindelan.
--> '''Kel''': But sir, I ''like'' being a girl.

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--> '''Lord -->'''Lord Wyldon''': If only you'd been born a boy, Mindelan.
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Mindelan.\\
'''Kel''': But sir, I ''like'' being a girl.



* Played with in ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}''- heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a badass.

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* Played with in ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}''- ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}''. The heroine Vin, [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak though she qualifies as a tomboy at heart she has a definite girly side to her]], in spite of her abusive half-brother's best attempts to beat it out. A good chunk of her character arc involves her coming to terms with the fact that she can enjoy dancing and wearing ballgowns and still be a badass.



** In ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' Susan Pevensie becomes "no longer a friend of Narnia" and the only mention of why is a line saying she's only interested in "lipstick, nylons and invitations". Many readers take this as criticism of female sexuality though CS Lewis said of Susan "The books don't tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But there's plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan's country in the end... in her own way" which, coupled with things other characters say suggest her fault is trying too hard to grow up and forgetting her childhood. The other female characters Lucy, Jill and Polly aren't said to be any less feminine than Susan.

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** In ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' Susan Pevensie becomes "no longer a friend of Narnia" and the only mention of why is a line saying she's only interested in "lipstick, nylons and invitations". Many readers take this as criticism of female sexuality though CS Lewis said of Susan Susan: "The books don't tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But there's plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan's country in the end... in her own way" way," which, coupled with things other characters say suggest her fault is trying too hard to grow up and forgetting her childhood. The other female characters Lucy, Jill and Polly aren't said to be any less feminine than Susan.



* ZigZagged in Plato's ''Literature/TheRepublic'', where Socrates contends that women have the right to the same education and civic duties as men... just so long as they act identically to men. The idea of educating women the same as men was, however, [[FairForItsDay in its day, so highly progressive as to be considered ridiculous in Athens at the time.]]

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* ZigZagged in Plato's ''Literature/TheRepublic'', where Socrates contends that women have the right to the same education and civic duties as men... just so long as they act identically to men. The idea of educating women the same as men was, however, [[FairForItsDay in its day, so highly progressive as to be considered ridiculous in Athens at the time.]]time]].



* ''Literature/TheAnderssons'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren developes a very strong pro-feminist message as the time goes by. And unfortunately, it ends up in the territory of this trope. Almost all the Andersson women have a career of their own, even if they are married and live in a time when married women were supposed to be housewives. Mandi is the only one out of four sisters to give up her career plans when she gets married, and she is punished for her "stupid" choice by ending up being abused by her husband ("that's what happens if you become dependant on a man, girls"). And the GirlyGirl Åsa is treated as a more whiny and prissy person than her {{Tomboy}} sister Saga. But it seems to go the other way around too, as all the men have to give up their machismo (or not be macho men in the first place) if they want to be portrayed in a positive light. So you can say that the message is that ''all'' traditional gender roles, both for women ''and'' men, are bad....

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* ''Literature/TheAnderssons'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren developes a very strong pro-feminist message as the time goes by. And unfortunately, it ends up in the territory of this trope. Almost all the Andersson women have a career of their own, even if they are married and live in a time when married women were supposed to be housewives. Mandi is the only one out of four sisters to give up her career plans when she gets married, and she is punished for her "stupid" choice by ending up being abused by her husband ("that's what happens if you become dependant on a man, girls"). And the GirlyGirl Åsa is treated as a more whiny and prissy person than her {{Tomboy}} sister Saga. But it seems to go the other way around too, as all the men have to give up their machismo (or not be macho men in the first place) if they want to be portrayed in a positive light. So you can say that the message is that ''all'' traditional gender roles, both for women ''and'' men, are bad....bad...



*''Literature/CarryOn'': Penny has this attitude a little, to her more feminine friend Agatha’s annoyance.
-->'''Penny''': Why do the gingerbread girls have to wear pink?\\
'''Agatha''': Why should the gingerbread girls feel like they ''shouldn't'' wear pink? I like pink.\\
'''Penny''': Only because you've been conditioned to like it by Barbies and gendered Lego.\\
'''Agatha''': Lay off, Penny. I've never played with Lego.



* Sometimes used in Franchise/SuperSentai, which is fond of the TomboyAndGirlyGirl trope: if there are TwoGirlsToATeam, typically the Pink (or White) Ranger will be girly and wear skirts/dresses, while the Yellow (or Blue) Ranger will be more tomboyish and wear shorts or pants. Early series would lean towards making the tomboy the stronger warrior, while the girly girl would be more of a pacifist and often have a less powerful weapon.

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* Sometimes used in Franchise/SuperSentai, ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', which is fond of the TomboyAndGirlyGirl trope: if there are TwoGirlsToATeam, typically the Pink (or White) Ranger will be girly and wear skirts/dresses, while the Yellow (or Blue) Ranger will be more tomboyish and wear shorts or pants. Early series would lean towards making the tomboy the stronger warrior, while the girly girl would be more of a pacifist and often have a less powerful weapon.



19th Dec '17 7:02:17 PM MeaJae97
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A woman is shown as weak, incompetent, and ineffectual unless she dresses and behaves in a masculine manner, or is otherwise applauded for being "not like other girls." A variation is a TomboyAndGirlyGirl scenario, where the tomboy is presented as superior. It's not hard to spot the UnfortunateImplications: that traditionally feminine traits are worthless and women must "masculinize" themselves to be taken seriously. It takes the old prescriptivist gender roles and merely inverts them, creating a new prescribed gender role that female characters must adhere to or be shunned.

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A woman is shown as weak, incompetent, and ineffectual unless she dresses and behaves in a masculine manner, or is otherwise applauded for being "not like other girls." A variation is a TomboyAndGirlyGirl scenario, where the tomboy is presented as superior. It's not hard to spot the UnfortunateImplications: that traditionally feminine traits are worthless and women must "masculinize" themselves to be taken seriously. It takes the old prescriptivist gender roles and [[BrokenAesop merely inverts them, them,]] creating a [[FullCircleRevolution new prescribed gender role role]] that female characters must adhere to or be shunned.
shunned.
19th Dec '17 4:45:52 PM nombretomado
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* {{Discussed}} on occasion by TheNostalgiaChick, who seems to regard this as a PetPeeveTrope. She's been known to call badly-done {{Action Girl}}s "Kate Beatonian Strong Female Characters" (see above). In contrast, one of the things she liked about ''{{Disney/Frozen}}'' was that it trusted [[GenkiGirl Anna]] to carry the narrative without giving her inexplicable fighting skills.

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* {{Discussed}} on occasion by TheNostalgiaChick, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick, who seems to regard this as a PetPeeveTrope. She's been known to call badly-done {{Action Girl}}s "Kate Beatonian Strong Female Characters" (see above). In contrast, one of the things she liked about ''{{Disney/Frozen}}'' was that it trusted [[GenkiGirl Anna]] to carry the narrative without giving her inexplicable fighting skills.
12th Dec '17 8:52:50 AM Ccook1956
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* ''In ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Octi Gone," Buttercup bellyaches about having to wear a poofed-out dress at the Professor's fancy dinner party.

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* ''In In ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Octi Gone," Buttercup bellyaches about having to wear a poofed-out dress at the Professor's fancy dinner party.
12th Dec '17 8:50:08 AM Ccook1956
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* ''In ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Octi Gone," Buttercup bellyaches about having to wear a poofed-out dress at the Professor's fancy dinner party.
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* Hayley Shadows was once a fairly girly girl by pro wrestling standards. [[ThatManIsDead But that girl died]], and Shadows went on "Dead Barbies Tour" in 2017 to add to the graves.

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* Hayley Shadows was once a fairly girly girl by pro wrestling standards. [[ThatManIsDead But that girl died]], and Shadows the former "cuddle monster" went on "Dead Barbies Tour" in 2017 to add to the graves.
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See also PinkMeansFeminine and the various tropes on AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits.

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See also GirlyGirl, PinkMeansFeminine and the various tropes on AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits.
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* After a brief stint with TNA, "The Wrestling Goddess" Athena returned to Traditional Championship and Mid-South Wrestling expecting acceptance from Malia Hosaka, who instead told her all Athena had done was prove she thought being in a squared circle was all about T&A. However Hosaka had to grudgingly admit Athena was tough and talented after they split a series.
* This became The Anti Diva Serena Deeb's secondary gimmick in FCW while she was in the {{Straight Edge|Evil}} [[{{Cult}} Society]] in WWE. She soon enough inspired two successors in Anti Divas [[Wrestling/IvelisseVelez Sofia Cortez]] and Wrestling/{{Paige}}. (perhaps because they lacked the ''primary'' gimmick, the latter two got [[{{face}} huge pops]]). Judging by some of Sweet Nancy's comments, it seems she and Leandra also took on an "anti diva" mindset in EWO ([[FaceHeelTurn and not to pops]]).

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* After a brief stint with TNA, "The Wrestling Goddess" Athena [[Wrestling/EmberMoon Athena]] returned to Traditional Championship and Mid-South Wrestling expecting acceptance from Malia Hosaka, who instead told her all Athena had done was prove she thought being in a squared circle was all about T&A. However However, Hosaka had to grudgingly admit Athena was tough and talented after they split a series.
* This became The Anti Diva Serena Deeb's secondary gimmick in FCW while she was in the {{Straight Edge|Evil}} [[{{Cult}} Society]] in of WWE. She soon enough inspired two successors in Anti Divas [[Wrestling/IvelisseVelez Sofia Cortez]] and Wrestling/{{Paige}}. (perhaps because they lacked the ''primary'' gimmick, the latter two got [[{{face}} huge pops]]). Judging by some of Sweet Nancy's comments, it seems she and Leandra also took on an "anti diva" mindset in EWO ([[FaceHeelTurn and not to pops]]).


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* Hayley Shadows was once a fairly girly girl by pro wrestling standards. [[ThatManIsDead But that girl died]], and Shadows went on "Dead Barbies Tour" in 2017 to add to the graves.
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