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* End at the beginning of VideoGame/Destiny. Most of humanity is wiped out by [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the Darkness]] but the Traveler sacrifices itself to create the Last City, which leads to the beginning of the game.
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* The ending of ''Film/{{Se7e}}''. While the villain has won, [[spoiler: Mills gave in to his anger at his wife's and child's death at the hands of John Doe, the villain, and John does agenda, a recreation of the SevenDeadlySins in the form of murders, came to fruition as mills shot John Doe in the head, giving in to the final sin, wrath]], and his evil plan has suceeded. Mills, clearly emotionally traumatised by the events, has been taken into custody. However, Detective Somerset is a generally selfless and moral KnightInSourArmor until a short time before the beggining of the film when he decides to actually retire and get on with his life. Throughout the film he is on the brink of retiring but just can't keep out that selfless part inside of him that wants to keep on fighting for the innocent, which is pushed on by Mills who is like a reminder of Somerset at a younger age. He does decide to stay on for a few days, but at the end of the film after [[spoiler: Mills shoots Doe and Doe's plan suceeds]], it is implied that he has decided to stay on completely. The last words of the film are Somerset: "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" which shows that even in the worst of places and after seeing the worst in humanity, people will still fight for good.

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* The ending of ''Film/{{Se7e}}''.''Film/{{Se7en}}''. While the villain has won, [[spoiler: Mills gave in to his anger at his wife's and child's death at the hands of John Doe, the villain, and John does agenda, a recreation of the SevenDeadlySins in the form of murders, came to fruition as mills shot John Doe in the head, giving in to the final sin, wrath]], and his evil plan has suceeded. Mills, clearly emotionally traumatised by the events, has been taken into custody. However, Detective Somerset is a generally selfless and moral KnightInSourArmor until a short time before the beggining of the film when he decides to actually retire and get on with his life. Throughout the film he is on the brink of retiring but just can't keep out that selfless part inside of him that wants to keep on fighting for the innocent, which is pushed on by Mills who is like a reminder of Somerset at a younger age. He does decide to stay on for a few days, but at the end of the film after [[spoiler: Mills shoots Doe and Doe's plan suceeds]], it is implied that he has decided to stay on completely. The last words of the film are Somerset: "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" which shows that even in the worst of places and after seeing the worst in humanity, people will still fight for good.
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* After Eiki Shiki shows [[FanFic/DiamondInTheRough Brolli]] how everything [[DownerEnding was turned to worse]] in Gensokyo, Brolli admits everything he done was wrong and asks to be dropped in hell. Howevr, Eiki Shiki recognize that Brolli shows regret and decides to give him a second chance, allowing him to be reincarnated in another timeline. The movie ends with Komachi telling him, in the Sanzu: "You are different" and then [[FadeToWhite Fading To White]].
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This differs (almost to the point of being the opposite) from a BittersweetEnding, where the protagonists win but at a great cost, and is not simply a Downer Ending with a few happy tones either. This trope means that, despite the heroes being soundly defeated, physically and/or emotionally, there's still some hope left; a reassurement that things are not as bleak as they may look, and there could be a chance to turn the tides around, even if everything that has been lost can't ever be truly recovered.

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This differs (almost to the point of being the opposite) from a BittersweetEnding, where the protagonists win but at a great cost, and is not simply a Downer Ending with a few happy tones either. This trope means that, despite the heroes being soundly defeated, physically and/or emotionally, there's still some hope left; a reassurement reassurance that things are not as bleak as they may look, and there could be a chance to turn the tides around, even if everything that has been lost can't ever be truly recovered.
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** And given that immediately afterward the Captain ''does'' find something to laugh at when Mrs. Marcus slips on a banana peel...
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* The ending of "Se7en" could be seen as this. While the villain has won,[[spoiler: mills (brad pitt)gave in to his anger at his wife and childs death at the hands of john doe, the villain, and john does agenda, a recreation of the 7 deadly sins in the form of murders, came to fruition as mills shot john doe in the head, giving in to the final sin, wrath.]] and his evil plan has suceeded. Mills, clearly emotionally traumatised by the events, has been taken into custody. However, Detective Somerset (morgan freeman)is a generally selfless and moral KnightInSourArmor until a short time before the beggining of the film when he decides to actually retire and get on with his life. Throughout the film he is on the brink of retiring but just cant keep out that selfless part inside of him that wants to keep on fighting for the innocent, which is pushed on by Mills who is like a reminder of Somerset at a younger age. He does decide to stay on for a few days, but at the end of the film after [[spoiler: Mills shoots Doe and Doe's plan suceeds]]it is implied that he has decided to stay on completely, by his words 'Around. Ill be around which he says in response to a policeman asking him where he'll be. Maybe he'll stay a cop until he dies. The last words of the film are Somerset: "Th world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" which shows that even in the worst of places and after seeing the worst in humanity people will still fight for good.

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* The ending of "Se7en" could be seen as this. ''Film/{{Se7e}}''. While the villain has won,[[spoiler: mills (brad pitt)gave won, [[spoiler: Mills gave in to his anger at his wife wife's and childs child's death at the hands of john doe, John Doe, the villain, and john John does agenda, a recreation of the 7 deadly sins SevenDeadlySins in the form of murders, came to fruition as mills shot john doe John Doe in the head, giving in to the final sin, wrath.]] wrath]], and his evil plan has suceeded. Mills, clearly emotionally traumatised by the events, has been taken into custody. However, Detective Somerset (morgan freeman)is is a generally selfless and moral KnightInSourArmor until a short time before the beggining of the film when he decides to actually retire and get on with his life. Throughout the film he is on the brink of retiring but just cant can't keep out that selfless part inside of him that wants to keep on fighting for the innocent, which is pushed on by Mills who is like a reminder of Somerset at a younger age. He does decide to stay on for a few days, but at the end of the film after [[spoiler: Mills shoots Doe and Doe's plan suceeds]]it suceeds]], it is implied that he has decided to stay on completely, by his words 'Around. Ill be around which he says in response to a policeman asking him where he'll be. Maybe he'll stay a cop until he dies. completely. The last words of the film are Somerset: "Th "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" which shows that even in the worst of places and after seeing the worst in humanity humanity, people will still fight for good.
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* The ending of "Se7en" could be seen as this. While the villain has won,[[spoiler: mills (brad pitt)gave in to his anger at his wife and childs death at the hands of john doe, the villain, and john does agenda, a recreation of the 7 deadly sins in the form of murders, came to fruition as mills shot john doe in the head, giving in to the final sin, wrath.]] and his evil plan has suceeded. Mills, clearly emotionally traumatised by the events, has been taken into custody. However, Detective Somerset (morgan freeman)is a generally selfless and moral KnightInSourArmor until a short time before the beggining of the film when he decides to actually retire and get on with his life. Throughout the film he is on the brink of retiring but just cant keep out that selfless part inside of him that wants to keep on fighting for the innocent, which is pushed on by Mills who is like a reminder of Somerset at a younger age. He does decide to stay on for a few days, but at the end of the film after [[spoiler: Mills shoots Doe and Doe's plan suceeds]]it is implied that he has decided to stay on completely, by his words 'Around. Ill be around which he says in response to a policeman asking him where he'll be. Maybe he'll stay a cop until he dies. The last words of the film are Somerset: "Th world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" which shows that even in the worst of places and after seeing the worst in humanity people will still fight for good.
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* Every single season of ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' ends this way, [[TheBadGuyWins with a victory for XANA]] but with the potential for the heroes to undo his victory. In order:

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** Season Four: This season does not fit the Trope, but [[spoiler:is a BittersweetEnding nonetheless. XANA is finally destroyed, but Hopper [[HeroicSacrifice has to sacrifice himself]] in the second-to-last episode to do it.]]

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** Season Four: This season does not fit the Trope, but [[spoiler:is a BittersweetEnding nonetheless. XANA is finally destroyed, but Hopper [[HeroicSacrifice has to sacrifice himself]] in the second-to-last episode to do it.]]

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* Every single season of Code Lyoko ends this way, with a victory for XANA but with the potential for the heroes to undo his victory. In order:

Season One: While Aelita is finally dematerialized, a virus planted inside her makes her freedom temporary, and the heroes still unable to shut down the computer without killing her. Still, Aelita is not a complete prisoner, and Jeremie promises to find the cure no matter what it takes.

Season Two: Aelita has more freedom from Lyoko, but XANA now has a specific goal, to absorb her memories using the Scyphozoa. In the last episode of the season, he succeeds, and manages to escape Lyoko, no longer relying on it and becoming far more powerful than before. But, when the heroes seem out of ideas, they get a message from the enigmatic Franz Hopper, pledging his help.

Season Three: The end of this season marks XANA’s biggest victory. His goal is to destroy Lyoko, so that nothing can undo his attacks on humanity. At the end of the episode, he not only succeeds, but makes William his slave. But, when all hope seems lost, the heroes get a message from Hopper again, hinting that he may have a solution. (In the next season, it is shown that Jeremie is able to use what Hopper sends him to rebuild Lyoko.)

Season Four: This season does not fit the Trope, but [[spoiler:is a Bittersweet Ending nonetheless. XANA is finally destroyed, but Hopper has to sacrifice himself in the second-to-last episode to do it.]]

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Season Two: Aelita has more freedom from Lyoko, but XANA now has a specific goal, to absorb her memories using the Scyphozoa. In the last episode of the season, he succeeds, and manages to escape Lyoko, no longer relying on it and becoming far more powerful than before. But, when the heroes seem out of ideas, they get a message from the enigmatic [[BigGood Franz Hopper, Hopper]], pledging his help.

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Season Three: The end of this season marks XANA’s biggest victory. His goal is to destroy Lyoko, so that nothing can undo his attacks on humanity. At the end of the episode, he not only succeeds, but makes William his slave. But, when all hope seems lost, the heroes get a message from Hopper again, hinting that he may have a solution. (In the next season, it is shown that Jeremie is able to use what Hopper sends him to rebuild Lyoko.)

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Season Four: This season does not fit the Trope, but [[spoiler:is a Bittersweet Ending BittersweetEnding nonetheless. XANA is finally destroyed, but Hopper [[HeroicSacrifice has to sacrifice himself himself]] in the second-to-last episode to do it.]]
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* Every single season of Code Lyoko ends this way, with a victory for XANA but with the potential for the heroes to undo his victory. In order:

Season One: While Aelita is finally dematerialized, a virus planted inside her makes her freedom temporary, and the heroes still unable to shut down the computer without killing her. Still, Aelita is not a complete prisoner, and Jeremie promises to find the cure no matter what it takes.

Season Two: Aelita has more freedom from Lyoko, but XANA now has a specific goal, to absorb her memories using the Scyphozoa. In the last episode of the season, he succeeds, and manages to escape Lyoko, no longer relying on it and becoming far more powerful than before. But, when the heroes seem out of ideas, they get a message from the enigmatic Franz Hopper, pledging his help.

Season Three: The end of this season marks XANA’s biggest victory. His goal is to destroy Lyoko, so that nothing can undo his attacks on humanity. At the end of the episode, he not only succeeds, but makes William his slave. But, when all hope seems lost, the heroes get a message from Hopper again, hinting that he may have a solution. (In the next season, it is shown that Jeremie is able to use what Hopper sends him to rebuild Lyoko.)

Season Four: This season does not fit the Trope, but [[spoiler:is a Bittersweet Ending nonetheless. XANA is finally destroyed, but Hopper has to sacrifice himself in the second-to-last episode to do it.]]
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* Experimental montage film ''Film/AMovie'' has a nearly literal version of this trope. After the latter portion of the film dwells on death, violence, and destruction, the last clip is of a scuba diver exploring a sunken ship, panning up to the sun, visible from under the water.
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'': The twist ending has a character pull one heck of a FaceHeelTurn and remake the world according to her own desires. All the heroes are trapped in her reality and given LaserGuidedAmnesia. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist the new villain's desires]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans are to make everyone alive and happy.]] It's also implied the heroes will regain their memories and oppose the villain.

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'': The twist ending has a character pull one heck of a FaceHeelTurn and remake the world according to her own desires. All the heroes are trapped in her reality and given LaserGuidedAmnesia. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist the new villain's desires]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans are to make everyone alive and happy.]] It's also implied the heroes will regain their memories and oppose oppose, persuade, or redeem the villain.
villain or otherwise change the status quo to something more satisfying for everyone, said villain included.
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* In ACanticleForLeibowitz [[spoiler: the world nukes itself a second time]], yet the church has grown wiser, forming a parallel hierarchy in space, and sending a starship to Alpha Centauri.
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* The "Refusal" ending of VideoGame/MassEffect3. The Reapers wipe out most life in the galaxy, but the epilogue implies that the next cycle's races managed to defeat them for good.
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'': The twist ending has a character pull one heck of a FaceHeelTurn and remake the world according to her own desires. All the heroes are trapped in her reality and given LaserGuidedAmnesia. However, [[WellIntentionExtremist the new villain's desires]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans are to make everyone alive and happy.]] It's also implied the heroes will regain their memories and oppose the villain.

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'': The twist ending has a character pull one heck of a FaceHeelTurn and remake the world according to her own desires. All the heroes are trapped in her reality and given LaserGuidedAmnesia. However, [[WellIntentionExtremist [[WellIntentionedExtremist the new villain's desires]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans are to make everyone alive and happy.]] It's also implied the heroes will regain their memories and oppose the villain.
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'': The twist ending has a character pull one heck of a FaceHeelTurn and remake the world according to her own desires. All the heroes are trapped in her reality and given LaserGuidedAmnesia. However, [[WellIntentionExtremist the new villain's desires]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans are to make everyone alive and happy.]] It's also implied the heroes will regain their memories and oppose the villain.
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* ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'': After spending the whole film trying to avert Judgment Day, the heroes fail at the end and the machines nearly wipe out all life on earth. Of course, the T-850 knew it would happen all along. John finally accepts his destiny as leader of the resistance and begins his long journey to the eventual defeat of Skynet.
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* At the end of ''Literature/TheDarkTower'', when Roland is sent back in a GroundhogDayLoop, he holds the horn of Eld, which implies that he could break the loop eventually.

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* At the end of ''Literature/TheDarkTower'', when Roland is sent back in a GroundhogDayLoop, he holds the horn of Eld, Eld (unlike in previous iterations), which implies that he could break the loop eventually.eventually. He also hears a vague whisper from somewhere which suggests that perhaps this time "it will be different".
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* The CutShort ''Series/{{V-2009}}'' ended on the big downer of the Visitors gaining the ability to [[spoiler: [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul bliss]] humans en-masse]], which could very well be the backbreaker for the human race. Plus many key characters die, and [[spoiler: a very hopeful-looking plot against Anna by her estranged mother fails utterly]]. But Erica is introduced to a deeper underground resistance involving members of the FBI, military and intelligence communities, which may, with some perseverance, cunning and luck, just have enough resources and high connections to succeed, should there ever be a continuation or sequel...

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* The CutShort ''Series/{{V-2009}}'' ''Series/{{V 2009}}'' ended on the big downer of the Visitors gaining the ability to [[spoiler: [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul [[spoiler:[[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul bliss]] humans en-masse]], which could very well be the backbreaker for the human race. Plus many key characters die, and [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a very hopeful-looking plot against Anna by her estranged mother fails utterly]]. But Erica is introduced to a deeper underground resistance involving members of the FBI, military and intelligence communities, which may, with some perseverance, cunning and luck, just have enough resources and high connections to succeed, should there ever be a continuation or sequel...
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* ''VideoGame/ArcTheLad II'''s ending would be a DownerEnding in the vast majority of games, being a PyrrhicVictory in which the only success Elc and the survivors of the party can claim is that they survived TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, and saved some portion of humanity as well. But this was better than anyone expected, and probably the best that humanity could hope to win.
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* The "Bad Ending" when you lose all your lives and choose not to continue in ''VideoGame/MetalBlack''. TheHeroDies, but inspires the rest of the military to fight the aliens. 20000 Black Fly ships set out for battle.
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* In the second part of ''VacantSky'', it turns out Auria is really the BigBad after all, one of the second heroes [[spoiler:Serijala ]] has made a pact with the Virad, and Mia is dead. Things are looking kinda grim. ...And then, we discover that the Virad are infected by demons, meaning demon-killing weapons have a chance of permanently killing them off, and also there is the hope that stopping Ejaro will put an end to the Virad.

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* In the second part of ''VacantSky'', ''VideoGame/VacantSky'', it turns out Auria is really the BigBad after all, one of the second heroes [[spoiler:Serijala ]] has made a pact with the Virad, and Mia is dead. Things are looking kinda grim. ...And then, we discover that the Virad are infected by demons, meaning demon-killing weapons have a chance of permanently killing them off, and also there is the hope that stopping Ejaro will put an end to the Virad.
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When a DownerEnding does not mean that everything has been lost. Things might have gone bad for our heroes; they might have lost the base, have the villain remain victorious, or even [[TheHeroDies have themselves killed]]. But even amongst all that tragedy, there's still something that assures that it doesn't end there, that there might be a chance to make things better.

This is different from a BittersweetEnding, where the protagonists win but at a great cost, and is not simply a Downer Ending with a few happy tones either. This trope means that, despite the heroes being soundly defeated, physically and/or emotionally, there's still some hope left; a reassurement that things are not as bleak as they may look, and there could be a chance to turn the tides around, even if everything that has been lost can't ever be truly recovered.

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When a DownerEnding does not mean that everything has been lost. Things In the end of the story, things might have gone bad for our heroes; they heroes. They might have lost the base, have the villain remain victorious, or even [[TheHeroDies have themselves killed]]. But even amongst all that tragedy, there's still something that assures that it doesn't end there, that there might be a chance to make things better.

better, a ray of hope on the horizon.

This is different differs (almost to the point of being the opposite) from a BittersweetEnding, where the protagonists win but at a great cost, and is not simply a Downer Ending with a few happy tones either. This trope means that, despite the heroes being soundly defeated, physically and/or emotionally, there's still some hope left; a reassurement that things are not as bleak as they may look, and there could be a chance to turn the tides around, even if everything that has been lost can't ever be truly recovered.




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* The fifth season of ''{{Fringe}}'' begins with our heroes finding themselves in a dystopian future ruled by [[spoiler: the Observers]], their leader [[BigBad Captain Windmark]] even going so far as to taunt [[TheSmartGuy Walter]] with the heroes' lack of hope by saying "Nothing grows from scorched earth." At the very end of the episode Walter finds a single dandelion growing though a crack in the ruined street, a sign that there's still hope to save the Earth.
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** However as the sequel ''[[MeaningfulName War in Heaven]]'' is quick to underline, the UEF rarely scores any victories in their war with the GTVA whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]], who up until that point have been singlehandedly winning the war, are [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could've been a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade the Earth itself, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi Laporte's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]] [[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]] [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end, but the UEF needs to win the war in order for the plan to work.

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** However as the sequel ''[[MeaningfulName War in Heaven]]'' is quick to underline, the UEF rarely scores any victories in their war with the GTVA whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]], who up until that point have been singlehandedly winning the war, are [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could've been a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade the Earth itself, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi Laporte's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]] [[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]] [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the a survivor's guilt induced DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna [[PlatonicLifePartners Lorna]] is [[OnlyMostlyDead still alive alive]] and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end, but the UEF needs to win the war in order for the plan to work.work. This leads to a pretty epic HesBack moment as Noemi re-joins the UEF fleet under a fake identity and vows to end the war no matter what it takes.

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* Over the course of the first three acts (of five) of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' the [[DesignatedHero "heroic"]] [[TheAlliance United Earth Federation]] rarely scores any victories in their war with the [[TheFederation GT]][[DesignatedVillain VA]] whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]] are [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could be a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]] [[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]] [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end, but the UEF needs to win in order for the plan to work.

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* Over the course of the At first three acts (of five) it appears that ''VideoGame/FreeSpace: VideoGame/BluePlanet - Age of Aquarius'' will end on a [[EarnYourHappyEnding high note]] with the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' the [[DesignatedHero "heroic"]] [[TheAlliance 14th [[TheFederation Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance]] (GTVA) Battlegroup returning back to [[spoiler: their own universe's]] Earth after being cut off from it for 50 years, an United Earth Federation]] Federation (UEF) frigate shows up and asks the battlegroup's ships if they come in peace, only for the heroes to discover that GTVA high command had sent the battlegroup to invade the Sol system and forcibly reunify it with the alliance, a point punctuated by the battlegroup easily destroying the frigate. However it's not all gloom as [[PlayerCharacter Samuel Bei]] and half the battlegroup decide to fight for Earth instead, in the process giving Earth a fighting chance as opposed to the otherwise certain defeat.
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rarely scores any victories in their war with the [[TheFederation GT]][[DesignatedVillain VA]] GTVA whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]] Wargods]], who up until that point have been singlehandedly winning the war, are [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could be could've been a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, the Earth itself, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] Noemi Laporte's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]] [[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]] [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end, but the UEF needs to win the war in order for the plan to work.
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* Over the course of the first three acts (of five) of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' the [[DesignatedHero "heroic"]] [[TheAlliance United Earth Federation]] rarely scores any victories in their war with the [[TheFederation GT]][[DesignatedVillain VA]] whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]] being [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could be a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]][[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]][[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end from happening but the UEF needs to win in order for the plan to work.

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* Over the course of the first three acts (of five) of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' the [[DesignatedHero "heroic"]] [[TheAlliance United Earth Federation]] rarely scores any victories in their war with the [[TheFederation GT]][[DesignatedVillain VA]] whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]] being are [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could be a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the UEF-GTVA war and have ordered [[TheDreaded the]][[OmnicidalManiac the]] [[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi being forced to fake her death to escape from [[UnwittingPawn the]][[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the]] [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end from happening end, but the UEF needs to win in order for the plan to work.
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* The third act of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: the Vishnans have given up on preserving humanity because of the Sol-GTVA war and have ordered the Shivans to destroy humanity]] and Noemi is forced to fake her death to escape from the Elders' grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of Ken saying that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end from happening but it will only come to pass if the war ends quickly and also in Noemi learning that Lorna is still alive and vowing to end the war no matter the cost.

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* The third act Over the course of the first three acts (of five) of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' the [[DesignatedHero "heroic"]] [[TheAlliance United Earth Federation]] rarely scores any victories in their war with the [[TheFederation GT]][[DesignatedVillain VA]] whose forces both outgun and outnumber the UEF's, the second act in particular [[spoiler: ending on a very cruel HopeSpot where the [[BadassCrew Wargods]] being [[CurbStompBattle completely curb-stomped]] on the cusp of what could be a war-ending victory]] The third act itself ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: [[{{Precursors}} the Vishnans Vishnans]] have given up on preserving humanity because of the Sol-GTVA UEF-GTVA war and have ordered the Shivans [[TheDreaded the]][[OmnicidalManiac Shivans]] to destroy humanity]] and Noemi is being forced to fake her death to escape from the Elders' [[UnwittingPawn the]][[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Elders']] grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of Ken saying [[MindHive Ken]] bringing Noemi back from the DespairEventHorizon by telling her that Lorna is still alive and that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end from happening but it will only come to pass if the war ends quickly and also UEF needs to win in Noemi learning that Lorna is still alive and vowing to end order for the war no matter the cost.plan to work.
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When a DownerEnding does not mean that everything has been lost. Things might have gone bad for our heroes; they might have lost the base, have the villain remain victorious, or even [[TheHeroDies have themselves killed]]. But even amongst all that tragedy, there's still something that assures that it doesn't end there, that there might be a chance to make things better.

This is different from a BittersweetEnding, where the protagonists win but at a great cost, and is not simply a Downer Ending with a few happy tones either. This trope means that, despite the heroes being soundly defeated, physically and/or emotionally, there's still some hope left; a reassurement that things are not as bleak as they may look, and there could be a chance to turn the tides around, even if everything that has been lost can't ever be truly recovered.

Compare to AWorldHalfFull, which is a world that despite its broken state can still be turned for the better, FlingALightIntoTheFuture, which is a more deliberate hope establishment and usually happens at the start of the story, HopeSpringsEternal, which is the very concept of hope always living on no matter the circumstances.

Contrast SurprisinglyHappyEnding, in which a seemingly bittersweet or downer ending turns into a happy ending thanks to a plot twist, and EsotericHappyEnding, where the creator ''thinks'' they have ended things on a positive note, but the AudienceReaction is FridgeHorror.

Depending on the circumstances, this kind of ending may be (or become) a SequelHook.

'''This is an EndingTrope, so beware of unmarked spoilers.'''
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[[AC:{{Anime}} and {{Manga}}]]
* ''Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon: [[TheMovie Be Invoked]]'' is infamous for its KillEmAll ending, but the final moments are of the characters' souls happy and laughing as they go to be reincarnated. (Though after all the suffering they go through, one has to wonder whether just staying dead would be a better option.)

[[AC:{{Film}}]]
* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'': The Rebellion is on the run without a base, Han Solo's debt with Jabba the Hutt comes back to bite him and he has been frozen solid in carbonite, Luke gave up his Jedi Training to walk into Darth Vader's trap, lose his hand and [[ItWasHisSled finds his true parentage]]. But the main cast minus Han are able to escape the Empire at Cloud City and it ends on a high note with Luke's replacement hand and the team getting a lead on Han's whereabouts.
** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': Anakin Skywalker has fallen to evil. The Jedi have been all but destroyed. The Republic has fallen, and the Empire has risen to power. Obi-Wan and Yoda, the only survivors of the Order, are in hiding. But the Skywalker twins have been born, and we know from the original trilogy that they will be the ones to change the state of the galaxy for the better.
* The ending to the European film, ''Acla'' also known as ''Acla's Descent'' would almost be a Downer Ending, but it has a touch of hope since it's shown that in spite of everything, Acla can still dream of a better future.
* ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'': Protagonist James Cole, a time traveler from AfterTheEnd, dies trying (and failing) to stop the villain from releasing the virus that triggers TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. But in the next scene, another time traveler appears in disguise to speak with the villain -- implying that, thanks to Cole's work, the scientists of the future will finally get a pure sample of the virus so they can make a vaccine. The past can't be changed, but the future can still be saved.
* ''Film/ItsAMadMadMadMadWorld'' ends with the male characters ending up in the hospital after losing the $350,000 worth of money, but Captain Culpepper assures them with this line:
-->"I don't think any of you have anything to worry about. My wife is divorcing me, my daughter is applying to the courts to have her name changed, my pension has been revoked, and the only reason you 10 idiots will very likely get off lightly is because the judge will have me up there to throw the book at. I'd like to think that sometime, maybe 10 or 20 years from now, there will be something that I could laugh at, anything."

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* ''Literature/TheLorax'' would have been a total Downer Ending, had the Once-Ler not given the child the last Trufula seed.
* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' concludes with an appendix about Newspeak which is phrased in the past tense and written in standard English. Some people have interpreted this to mean that the reign of Ingsoc was eventually broken.
* ''Literature/FirstKingOfShannara'' ends this way. While the Second War of the Races is won and the Warlock Lord defeated, this BigBad isn't permanently destroyed. In spite of this development and the destruction of the Druids, Allanon remains as the last Druid, the Sword of Shannara is still capable of destroying the Warlock Lord, and Jerle Shannara [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture continues his bloodline]] -- leaving his descendants to eventually destroy the Warlock Lord.
* At the end of ''Literature/TheDarkTower'', when Roland is sent back in a GroundhogDayLoop, he holds the horn of Eld, which implies that he could break the loop eventually.
* Creator/JohnWyndham's novelette ''Out of the Deeps/The Kraken Wakes''. At the end of the story the invading underwater aliens have melted the polar ice caps and caused worldwide flooding. However, the Japanese have developed an unmanned device that broadcasts ultrasonic waves lethal to the aliens. It has wiped out some of the aliens and might succeed in destroying all of them.
* The fourth book of ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' ends this way, with the Baudelaires reflecting on the small blessings that allowed them to survive this latest attempt on their lives, and conclude maybe they do have some luck on their side after all.

[[AC:LiveActionTV]]
* The CutShort ''Series/{{V-2009}}'' ended on the big downer of the Visitors gaining the ability to [[spoiler: [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul bliss]] humans en-masse]], which could very well be the backbreaker for the human race. Plus many key characters die, and [[spoiler: a very hopeful-looking plot against Anna by her estranged mother fails utterly]]. But Erica is introduced to a deeper underground resistance involving members of the FBI, military and intelligence communities, which may, with some perseverance, cunning and luck, just have enough resources and high connections to succeed, should there ever be a continuation or sequel...
* ''Series/TheXFiles'' ends with [[spoiler: half the main cast chased by the authorities, Mulder still being wanted and the revelation that an alien invasion will begin in December 2012]]. However Mulder expresses his belief to Scully that they have a force more powerful than the aliens on their side and that there's still hope to defeat them. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot And then the]] [[AbortedArc second movie happened]].
* The fifth season of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' ends with the Dominion invasion of the Alpha Quadrant, Deep Space 9 is quickly captured by the Dominion forces and the heroes retreat. The ray of hope comes in the form of the massed Federation-Klingon fleet ready to fight back and Captain Sisko leaving behind his baseball on the station, a message that he will return, [[Website/SFDebris and shove it up the Dominion's ass when he does]].

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* In the second part of ''VacantSky'', it turns out Auria is really the BigBad after all, one of the second heroes [[spoiler:Serijala ]] has made a pact with the Virad, and Mia is dead. Things are looking kinda grim. ...And then, we discover that the Virad are infected by demons, meaning demon-killing weapons have a chance of permanently killing them off, and also there is the hope that stopping Ejaro will put an end to the Virad.
* ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. In the best ending, it is implied that [[spoiler: despite all the horrible things Walker did, he still has a chance at possible redemption]]. The achievement for getting this ending is even called "The Road Back".
* The [[FactionSpecificEndings Purple Clan's ending]] in ''VideoGame/{{Fahrenheit}}'' would be a downer ending, had it not been for [[spoiler:Lucas and Carla's child]] who has potential to save humankind where his/her father failed.
* ''VideoGame/InfinityBlade'': In the second game, Siris manages to defeat Radriar the God King for the second time and makes sure not to kill him. He takes Radriar to the Worker of Secret's cell, so that the Worker will be freed and Radriar will be imprisoned in his place. Unfortunately, Siris discovers too late that his "old friend" is a ConsummateLiar and a BitchInSheepsClothing. The Worker takes the Infinity Blade with plans for world domination, and leaves Siris and Radriar to rot in his cell, as well as claim that Ausar/Siris was the one who imprisoned him there in the first place. By all accounts, this is a Downer Ending, but the last scene shows Isa approaching the castle.
* The third act of the ''VideoGame/FreeSpace 2'' mod, ''VideoGame/BluePlanet: War In Heaven'' ends with the GTVA forces about to invade Earth, [[PlayerCharacter Noemi's]] revelation that [[spoiler: the Vishnans have given up on preserving humanity because of the Sol-GTVA war and have ordered the Shivans to destroy humanity]] and Noemi is forced to fake her death to escape from the Elders' grasp. The ray of hope comes in the form of Ken saying that [[spoiler: the Shivans]] have a plan to prevent humanity's end from happening but it will only come to pass if the war ends quickly and also in Noemi learning that Lorna is still alive and vowing to end the war no matter the cost.
* ''VideoGame/HaloReach'': [[ScaryDogmaticAliens The Covenant]] conquer Reach and burn its entire surface to glass. Humanity's second most important planet is lost. The fleet's attempts to stem the invasion end in failure every time. Almost all of NOBLE Team is killed [[spoiler:including the player]]. The only thing that keeps the story from being a complete tragedy is that the player manages to evacuate the ship ''Pillar of Autumn'' with Master Chief and Cortana aboard, who will turn around the course of the war in the subsequent games. [[spoiler:In the final cutscene, Dr. Halsey gives your eulogy and assures you that your HeroicSacrifice was worth it, as shown by Reach now being a green paradise being colonized again.]]

[[AC:WesternAnimation]]
* The first SeasonFinale of ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated''. The identity of the Creep of Crystal Cove is revealed to be [[spoiler:Mayor Jones, Fred's father]] and the gang is separated and grounded by their parents. When things seem lost however Scooby Doo renews his resolve and vows to put the gang back together.
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