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2nd Aug '16 1:15:37 PM narm00
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* Downplayed: The [[ComicBook/TheAuthority Midnighter]] has a huge amount of advanced circuitry in his head that [[CatchPhrase allows him to run any battle a million times in his head]], ensuring victory (which he apparently doesn't find [[VictoryIsBoring boring]]). The only two times he can't predict the fight, he's understandably shaken. (The first time, it's against a guy who does nothing at all, so he can't react; the second time, he's against SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, and has no idea what he's going to do.)

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* Downplayed: The [[ComicBook/TheAuthority Midnighter]] has a huge amount of advanced circuitry in his head that [[CatchPhrase allows him to run any battle a million times in his head]], ensuring victory (which he apparently doesn't find [[VictoryIsBoring boring]]). The only two times he can't predict the fight, he's understandably shaken. (The first time, it's against a guy who does nothing at all, so he can't react; the second time, he's against SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, ComicBook/TheJoker, and has no idea what he's going to do.)



* Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'s version of [[{{God}} Yahweh]] suffers from this since he knows how everything will turn out since he created all the rules by which the universe works, started everything, and is everywhere. Lucifer's own attempts to defy Yaweh's foreknowledge were all planned for at the beginning of the universe. The second half of the series has Yahweh withdraw from the universe to try and create an outcome where he does not know every last detail. Even observing would render this moot. Surprisingly, this kind of works. He knew generally how things would turn out, but not specific details and is perhaps for the first time in his existence surprised by the ending.

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* Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'s version of [[{{God}} Yahweh]] suffers from this since he knows how everything will turn out since he created all the rules by which the universe works, started everything, and is everywhere. Lucifer's own attempts to defy Yaweh's foreknowledge were all planned for at the beginning of the universe. The second half of the series has Yahweh withdraw from the universe to try and create an outcome where he does not know every last detail. Even observing would render this moot. Surprisingly, this kind of works. He knew generally how things would turn out, but not specific details details, and is perhaps for the first time in his existence surprised by the ending.



* Tzeentch, the god of GambitRoulette from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}.''Technically he ''doesn't'' see into the future, any more or less than any of the other partially-precognitive Chaos Gods do. He, however, can calculate virtually every outcome of everything going on, in the entire galaxy. Constantly. He DOES have a Greater Daemon that can see the future... Because he threw it into the "well" that was the literal axis of all of time. It emerged with two heads, [[KnightsAndKnaves one that always spoke the truth of the future and one that constantly states the opposite]]. [[UnreliableNarrator They switch roles unpredictably.]] He has eighty-one OTHER demons constantly writing down the unending, insane gibbering, to try and glean what he can of what's to come. He controls his boredom by setting up a dozen plans at once and [[GambitPileup watching them crash into each other and spray shrapnel everywhere]] (in fact, he will never truly win, because that will leave him nothing to do, so all his plans are destined to fail so that another one can work).

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* Tzeentch, the god of GambitRoulette from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}. ''Technically he ''doesn't'' see into the future, any more or less than any of the other partially-precognitive Chaos Gods do. He, however, can calculate virtually every outcome of everything going on, in the entire galaxy. Constantly. He DOES have a Greater Daemon that can see the future... Because he threw it into the "well" that was the literal axis of all of time. It emerged with two heads, [[KnightsAndKnaves one that always spoke the truth of the future and one that constantly states the opposite]]. [[UnreliableNarrator They switch roles unpredictably.]] He has eighty-one OTHER demons constantly writing down the unending, insane gibbering, to try and glean what he can of what's to come. He controls his boredom by setting up a dozen plans at once and [[GambitPileup watching them crash into each other and spray shrapnel everywhere]] (in fact, he will never truly win, because that will leave him nothing to do, so all his plans are destined to fail so that another one can work).
1st Aug '16 2:30:35 PM Willbyr
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* ''SteinsGate'': Okabe quickly discovers that [[spoiler:Mayuri's death is inevitable]] in any [[AnotherDimension world-line]] other than the original. The knowledge that whatever he does will [[spoiler:lead to her death every time]] takes a serious toll on his psyche.

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* ''SteinsGate'': ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'': Okabe quickly discovers that [[spoiler:Mayuri's death is inevitable]] in any [[AnotherDimension world-line]] other than the original. The knowledge that whatever he does will [[spoiler:lead to her death every time]] takes a serious toll on his psyche.
17th Jul '16 6:57:31 AM Adept
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* The [[OurWightsAreDifferent Wights]] in TerryPratchett's first novel ''Literature/TheCarpetPeople'' are an entire race who have an intrinsic knowledge of the future, and simply act out their lives in accordance with what they know must happen. Sometimes a Wight is born who has knowledge of ''all possible futures''. They tend to distance themselves from other Wights - after all, if you have such an intense connection to a single future that it determines your every move, you don't want someone around reminding you that there are other possibilities.

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* The [[OurWightsAreDifferent Wights]] in TerryPratchett's Creator/TerryPratchett's first novel ''Literature/TheCarpetPeople'' are an entire race who have an intrinsic knowledge of the future, and simply act out their lives in accordance with what they know must happen. Sometimes a Wight is born who has knowledge of ''all possible futures''. They tend to distance themselves from other Wights - after all, if you have such an intense connection to a single future that it determines your every move, you don't want someone around reminding you that there are other possibilities.
9th Jun '16 8:45:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* Death from the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' series remembers ''everything''. Everything that ''has'' happened or ''will'' happen.
** Yet he doesn't have a clue when Rincewind is going to die?
*** He doesn't even know ''what'' Rincewind is anymore. He's had so much happen to him.
*** Or the order doesn't make any difference to him, and he's annoyed at Rincewind for all the future appointments he's missed as well as the current one and the past ones, because he remembers that at one of the appointed times he ''does'' die but isn't 100% on which one it was so he has to show up to the others anyhow. I imagine that would kind of suck for an otherwise infinitely efficient and 100% effective force of nature.
** It's mentioned that entities like gods and demons are technically timeless, but in practice live from day to day because it's so confusing otherwise. Death may do this as well, though to a lesser degree.

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* Death from the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' series remembers ''everything''. Everything that ''has'' happened or ''will'' happen.
** Yet he doesn't have a clue when Rincewind is going to die?
*** He doesn't even know ''what'' Rincewind is anymore. He's had so much happen to him.
*** Or the order doesn't make any difference to him, and he's annoyed at Rincewind for all the future appointments he's missed as well as the current one and the past ones, because he remembers that at one of the appointed times he ''does'' die but isn't 100% on which one it was so he has to show up to the others anyhow. I imagine that would kind of suck for an otherwise infinitely efficient and 100% effective force of nature.
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happen. It's mentioned that entities like gods and demons are technically timeless, but in practice live from day to day because it's so confusing otherwise. Death may do this as well, though to a lesser degree.
9th Jun '16 8:44:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in ''SlaughterhouseFive''. Although the Tralfamadorians see the past, present, and future as one, without any possibility of changing the future--and Billy Pilgrim, UnstuckInTime, comes to see time this way too--they accept it with equanimity.

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* Averted in ''SlaughterhouseFive''.''Literature/SlaughterhouseFive''. Although the Tralfamadorians see the past, present, and future as one, without any possibility of changing the future--and Billy Pilgrim, UnstuckInTime, comes to see time this way too--they accept it with equanimity.



* Atium in the ''{{Mistborn}}'' books is treated as the ultimate weapon, since it allows the user to see a few moments into the future and thus predict their foe's actions, but [[DarkActionGirl Vin]] manages to use this trope to defeat an atium-burner with a carefully-timed feint.

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* Atium in the ''{{Mistborn}}'' ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' books is treated as the ultimate weapon, since it allows the user to see a few moments into the future and thus predict their foe's actions, but [[DarkActionGirl Vin]] manages to use this trope to defeat an atium-burner with a carefully-timed feint.



* The [[OurWightsAreDifferent Wights]] in TerryPratchett's first novel TheCarpetPeople are an entire race who have an intrinsic knowledge of the future, and simply act out their lives in accordance with what they know must happen. Sometimes a Wight is born who has knowledge of ''all possible futures''. They tend to distance themselves from other Wights - after all, if you have such an intense connection to a single future that it determines your every move, you don't want someone around reminding you that there are other possibilities.

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* The [[OurWightsAreDifferent Wights]] in TerryPratchett's first novel TheCarpetPeople ''Literature/TheCarpetPeople'' are an entire race who have an intrinsic knowledge of the future, and simply act out their lives in accordance with what they know must happen. Sometimes a Wight is born who has knowledge of ''all possible futures''. They tend to distance themselves from other Wights - after all, if you have such an intense connection to a single future that it determines your every move, you don't want someone around reminding you that there are other possibilities.
24th May '16 2:26:31 AM Ulysses21
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* The [[OurWightsAreDifferent Wights]] in TerryPratchett's first novel TheCarpetPeople are an entire race who have an intrinsic knowledge of the future, and simply act out their lives in accordance with what they know must happen. Sometimes a Wight is born who has knowledge of ''all possible futures''. They tend to distance themselves from other Wights - after all, if you have such an intense connection to a single future that it determines your every move, you don't want someone around reminding you that there are other possibilities.
13th May '16 1:40:24 AM Chabal2
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* Tzeentch, the god of GambitRoulette from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}.''Technically he ''doesn't'' see into the future, any more or less than any of the other partially-precognitive Chaos Gods do. He, however, can calculate virtually every outcome of everything going on, in the entire galaxy. Constantly. He DOES have a Greater Daemon that can see the future... Because he threw it into the "well" that was the literal axis of all of time. It emerged with two heads, [[KnightsAndKnaves one that always spoke the truth of the future and one that constantly states the opposite]]. [[UnreliableNarrator They switch roles unpredictably.]] He has a dozen OTHER demons constantly writing down the unending, insane gibbering, to try and glean what he can of what's to come. He controls his boredom by setting up a dozen plans at once and [[GambitPileup watching them crash into each other and spray shrapnel everywhere]].

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* Tzeentch, the god of GambitRoulette from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}.''Technically he ''doesn't'' see into the future, any more or less than any of the other partially-precognitive Chaos Gods do. He, however, can calculate virtually every outcome of everything going on, in the entire galaxy. Constantly. He DOES have a Greater Daemon that can see the future... Because he threw it into the "well" that was the literal axis of all of time. It emerged with two heads, [[KnightsAndKnaves one that always spoke the truth of the future and one that constantly states the opposite]]. [[UnreliableNarrator They switch roles unpredictably.]] He has a dozen eighty-one OTHER demons constantly writing down the unending, insane gibbering, to try and glean what he can of what's to come. He controls his boredom by setting up a dozen plans at once and [[GambitPileup watching them crash into each other and spray shrapnel everywhere]].everywhere]] (in fact, he will never truly win, because that will leave him nothing to do, so all his plans are destined to fail so that another one can work).
8th May '16 4:16:56 PM Nightmask
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*Happens to a character from one of the old Casper or Hotstuff comics, he acquired a witch's crystal ball and saw the future so that when all the exciting things happened he was totally bored because he already knew everything that was going to happen.
9th Mar '16 9:47:36 AM Hossmeister
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* ''AmericanDragonJakeLong'' gives us the Oracle Twins. One of them always sees bad futures, and has become so used to hearing bad news that everything makes her bright and perky, making her an [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of this trope. The other sister, however, only sees good futures, and in the spirit of this trope acts unenthusiastic all the time due to having all of the surprises taken out of life.

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* ''AmericanDragonJakeLong'' ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'' gives us the Oracle Twins. One of them always sees bad futures, and has become so used to hearing bad news that everything makes her bright and perky, making her an [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of this trope. The other sister, however, only sees good futures, and in the spirit of this trope acts unenthusiastic all the time due to having all of the surprises taken out of life.
9th Jan '16 7:53:10 AM WillBGood
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* Sort of example/subversion: The [[ComicBook/TheAuthority Midnighter]] has a huge amount of advanced circuitry in his head that [[CatchPhrase allows him to run any battle a million times in his head]], ensuring victory. The only two times he can't predict the fight, he's understandably shaken. (The first time, it's against a guy who does nothing at all, so he can't react; the second time, he's against SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, and has no idea what he's going to do.)

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* Sort of example/subversion: Downplayed: The [[ComicBook/TheAuthority Midnighter]] has a huge amount of advanced circuitry in his head that [[CatchPhrase allows him to run any battle a million times in his head]], ensuring victory.victory (which he apparently doesn't find [[VictoryIsBoring boring]]). The only two times he can't predict the fight, he's understandably shaken. (The first time, it's against a guy who does nothing at all, so he can't react; the second time, he's against SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, and has no idea what he's going to do.)
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