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2nd Oct '17 6:50:31 AM tromag
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* Salvor Hardin in the Literature/Foundation series has this as an explicit goal. One of his more famous quotes is "Never let your sense of morality get in the way of doing what's right."

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* Salvor Hardin in the Literature/Foundation [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Foundation Foundation]] series has this as an explicit goal. One of his more famous quotes is "Never let your sense of morality get in the way of doing what's right."
2nd Oct '17 6:44:28 AM tromag
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* Salvor Hardin in the Literature/Foundation series has this as an explicit goal. One of his more famous quotes is "Never let your sense of morality get in the way of doing what's right."
2nd Oct '17 6:41:21 AM tromag
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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' has Captain Ben Sisko, who, faced with a brutal war with the Dominion, steadily becomes more and more this trope over the course of the series, even as it catches up with his conscience. This was, of course, in sharp contrast to LawfulGood Jean-Luc Picard from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Next Generation]].'' We get a truly stunning example of what Sisko's made of in season 5's [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E13ForTheUniform "For The Uniform"]], [[spoiler: where he has the atmosphere of a Maquis planet poisoned ''just'' to force Eddington, a former Federation officer and Maquis defector, to surrender to the authorities. It works, and [[HeroInsurance Sisko never even faces any consequences for it.]]]]

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' has Captain Ben Sisko, who, faced with a brutal war with the Dominion, steadily becomes more and more this trope over the course of the series, even as it catches up with his conscience. This was, of course, culminates in sharp contrast to LawfulGood Jean-Luc Picard from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration the episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS06E19InThePaleMoonlight In The Next Generation]].'' We get a truly stunning example of what Sisko's made of in season 5's [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E13ForTheUniform "For The Uniform"]], Pale Moonlight]]", where he [[spoiler: where he has the atmosphere hatches a plan to fake evidence of a Maquis planet poisoned ''just'' Cardassian plot to force Eddington, a former Federation officer turn the Romulans against them. The plan spirals out of his control and Maquis defector, to surrender to the authorities. It works, and [[HeroInsurance ultimately results in Sisko never even faces any consequences covering up multiple murders. At the end of the episode, he's haunted by it, but explicitly decides that he can live his crimes for it.]]]]the greater good.]]
24th Sep '17 9:00:56 AM MiinU
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* ''WebVideo/ResidentEvilAbridged'': Discussed between Chris and Rebecca after she inoculates Richard, which would leave him unconscious anywhere from 15min., to up to 2 hours. Given the circumstances Chris suggests leaving him behind, since carrying him would [[TheNeedsOfTheMany put himself]] and [[TheMedic their only medic]] at risk. Rebecca is shocked to hear him say it, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo she reluctantly agrees]] since she was thinking the same thing.

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* ''WebVideo/ResidentEvilAbridged'': *''WebVideo/ResidentEvilAbridged'': Discussed between Chris and Rebecca after she inoculates Richard, which would leave him unconscious anywhere from 15min., to up to 2 hours. Given the circumstances circumstances, Chris suggests leaving him behind, since carrying him would [[TheNeedsOfTheMany put himself]] and [[TheMedic their only medic]] at risk. Rebecca is shocked to hear him say it, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo she reluctantly agrees]] since she was thinking the same thing.
24th Sep '17 8:59:46 AM MiinU
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*''WebVideo/ResidentEvilAbridged'': Discussed between Chris and Rebecca after she inoculates Richard, which would leave him unconscious anywhere from 15min., to up to 2 hours. Given the circumstances Chris suggests leaving him behind, since carrying him would [[TheNeedsOfTheMany put himself]] and [[TheMedic their only medic]] at risk. Rebecca is shocked to hear him say it, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo she reluctantly agrees]] since she was thinking the same thing.
17th Sep '17 8:39:36 PM TheSinful
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10199357/1/Let-the-Storm-Rage-On Let the Storm Rage On]] establishes Hans as one of these. As one of his brothers puts it, Hans will lie, trick, use force, or even play nice to get what he wants, and he uses all of these and more. But he is firmly the hero of the story, working tirelessly to save his persecuted subjects on multiple occasions.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10199357/1/Let-the-Storm-Rage-On Let the Storm Rage On]] On]]'' establishes Hans as one of these. As one of his brothers puts it, Hans will lie, trick, use force, or even play nice to get what he wants, and he uses all of these and more. But he is firmly the hero of the story, working tirelessly to save his persecuted subjects on multiple occasions.
* Literature/HarryPotter and Jedi Master Fay in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11157943/16/I-Still-Haven-t-Found-What-I-m-Looking-For I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For]]'' are the first to accept that the soulless Jedi clones they've discovered have to be killed. At best, they're complete sociopaths with Force powers; at worst, they're a TechnicallyLivingZombie. Harry goes to each cell with a soulless clone and uses an execution spell (designed to knock a target out painlessly and stop their heart) while Fay uses the Force to make them sleep before snapping their necks. Fay explains that as distasteful as it is, the whole matter is little different than putting down rabid animals.
14th Sep '17 3:54:24 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** Also [[spoiler: 71-Hour Ahmed from ''Jingo'', the chief policeman of Klatch, who broke SacredHospitality to execured a murderer, who poisoned a oasis and killed many people. He also doesn't follow ThouShaltNotKill rule, which his Ankh-Morpork counterpart, Samuel Vimes tries to follow.]]

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** Also [[spoiler: 71-Hour Ahmed from ''Jingo'', the chief policeman of Klatch, who broke SacredHospitality to execured execute a murderer, who poisoned a oasis and killed many people.people and animals. He also doesn't follow ThouShaltNotKill rule, which his Ankh-Morpork counterpart, Samuel Vimes tries to follow.]]
13th Jul '17 5:17:39 PM Killerikala
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* Batman in the two films directed by ''Creator/TimBurton''. While he seems to generally avoid killing, he racks up quite a bodycount.[[note]]He blows up Ace Chemicals with several of Joker's thugs inside, pulls a WalkingTank off a clocktower and causes Joker's death; He kills a few of Penguin's thugs in the sequel[[/note]] There is one time he is clearly smiling after trapping a thug in a hole with a bomb. However, in ''Film/BatmanForever'', he explains to Robin that he has come to regret killing and has cleaned up his act.
8th Jul '17 7:17:20 PM redandready45
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* Judy Hopps from ''Film/{{Zootopia}}'' is a competent police officer who, at the end of the day, just wants to do her job. However, she does very devious things, like blackmailing Nick into helping her by threatening to charge him with tax evasion, and later [[spoiler: hiring a mob boss intimidate a suspect into providing evidence]]
5th Jul '17 5:05:44 AM LinTaylor
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* Future Trunks from ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', which is part of what makes him so popular. Having grown up in a post-apocalyptic hellhole ruined by Dr. Gero's Androids, his goal is to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong and bring about peace. As such, he utterly lacks both Goku and Vegeta's worse BloodKnight tendencies; he doesn't want a good fight, he doesn't care if his opponent is weaker or wounded, he just wants them dead because otherwise they'll kill innocent people. Further, he [[WhatTheHellHero calls both of them out]] when they do stupid things like aiding Cell just because they want a better fight out of him.

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* Future Trunks from ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', which is part of what makes him so popular. Having grown up in a post-apocalyptic hellhole ruined by Dr. Gero's Androids, his whose primary goal is to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong avert a hellish future timeline]] and bring about peace. As such, he utterly lacks both protect the innocent from villains like Cell. This throws him into sharp contrast with Goku and Vegeta's worse BloodKnight tendencies; he doesn't want a good fight, he doesn't Vegeta, who are unrepentant {{Blood Knight}}s, care if his opponent is weaker or wounded, he just wants them dead because otherwise they'll kill innocent people. Further, he [[WhatTheHellHero calls both of them out]] when they only about getting stronger, and do stupid insane, universe-jeopardizing things like aiding letting Cell just get stronger because they want a better fight out of him.him. This, coupled with the fact that he [[WhatTheHellHero calls Goku and Vegeta out when they do such things]], makes Trunks one of the more popular characters in the series.
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