History Main / PerfectSolutionFallacy

8th Jul '17 8:57:26 AM nombretomado
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* Commonly used to refute the reliability of [[TheWikiRule wikis]], usually TheOtherWiki. The fact that there's no way to permanently protect every single page from all [[WikiVandal vandalism]] or absolutely confirm that every last sentence added in good faith is absolutely true over all scenarios, becomes an excuse to claim the wiki is always wrong. When told [[Administrivia/RepairDontRespond You Could Always Edit It Yourself]], they claim disdain for cleaning up other people's messes.

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* Commonly used to refute the reliability of [[TheWikiRule wikis]], usually TheOtherWiki.Wiki/TheOtherWiki. The fact that there's no way to permanently protect every single page from all [[WikiVandal vandalism]] or absolutely confirm that every last sentence added in good faith is absolutely true over all scenarios, becomes an excuse to claim the wiki is always wrong. When told [[Administrivia/RepairDontRespond You Could Always Edit It Yourself]], they claim disdain for cleaning up other people's messes.
20th Feb '17 4:33:46 PM garthvader
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There is a flip side to this fallacy. Some people will believe that their solution is perfect, and will defend it at all costs.
20th Feb '17 4:16:47 PM garthvader
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** Asking if there is a solution with a better ratio. There is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect solution; but there is with rejecting a solution because it does not have guaranteed success.
* Pointing out that a choice didn't work as well as anticipated, ''after'' it's been implemented.
* Rejecting an argument or claim that something ''is'' perfect, due to a proven imperfection.
* Not holding out for a perfect solution when limited time or opportunities mean that a good plan at the right time is better than a perfect plan that takes so long to put together that the window of opportunity has closed.
** Invoked by Robert De Niro's character Conrad in ''Film/WagTheDog''. As his team is struggling to cover up a sex scandal involving the US President, he states "A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow."
** The English aphorism "the perfect is the enemy of the good."
** Invoked in the concept of "fail faster," a concept that broaches many disciplines. The idea is in whatever large and worthwhile undertaking you are planning to take, you should begin to iterate as soon as you have a workable idea, work it, and be ready to abandon it as soon as it won't work. This will prevent you from demanding a perfect solution at first - especially since you cannot foresee all the pitfalls a great solution will need to overcome.
%%*** Discussed at length when it comes to game design by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDjrOaoHz9s Extra Credits here]].

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** Asking if there is a solution with a better ratio. There is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect solution; but there is with rejecting a solution because it does not have guaranteed success.\n* Pointing out that a choice didn't work as well as anticipated, ''after'' it's been implemented.\n* Rejecting an argument or claim that something ''is'' perfect, due to a proven imperfection.\n* Not holding out for a perfect solution when limited time or opportunities mean that a good plan at the right time is better than a perfect plan that takes so long to put together that the window of opportunity has closed.\n** Invoked by Robert De Niro's character Conrad in ''Film/WagTheDog''. As his team is struggling to cover up a sex scandal involving the US President, he states "A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow." \n** The English aphorism "the perfect is the enemy of the good."\n** Invoked in the concept of "fail faster," a concept that broaches many disciplines. The idea is in whatever large and worthwhile undertaking you are planning to take, you should begin to iterate as soon as you have a workable idea, work it, and be ready to abandon it as soon as it won't work. This will prevent you from demanding a perfect solution at first - especially since you cannot foresee all the pitfalls a great solution will need to overcome.\n%%*** Discussed at length when it comes to game design by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDjrOaoHz9s Extra Credits here]].
7th Feb '17 5:01:15 PM garthvader
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* People who advocate abstaining from sex often use this fallacy, with the argument that, since condoms don't prevent pregnancy and [=STDs=] ''100% of the time'',[[note]]whether by fault of the material or misapplication by the user,[[/note]] they are useless; never mind that they do so over 98%[[note]]under perfect conditions, 85% under normal use[[/note]] of the time, "not having sex" will prevent pregnancy and [=STDs=] 100% of the time. However, this "perfect" solution of abstinence is also BeggingTheQuestion, since the argument assumes everyone who ''intends'' to be abstinent at one time will ''continue'' to have sufficient determination to be so. Sadly, this fallacy causes some people to believe using condoms is a worthless effort and don't use them because they don't see the benefit.

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* People who advocate attempt to scare people into abstaining from sex often use this fallacy, with the argument that, that since condoms don't prevent pregnancy and [=STDs=] ''100% of the time'',[[note]]whether by fault of the material or misapplication by the user,[[/note]] time'', they are useless; never mind that they do so over 98%[[note]]under perfect conditions, 85% under normal use[[/note]] of the time, "not having sex" will prevent pregnancy and [=STDs=] 100% of the time. However, this useless. The "perfect" solution of abstinence "abstinence" is also BeggingTheQuestion, since the argument assumes everyone who ''intends'' to be abstinent at one time will ''continue'' to have sufficient determination to be so. Sadly, this fallacy causes some most people to believe using condoms is who want a worthless effort method of preventing pregnancy and don't use them STD transmission want it because they don't see ''intend to have sex''. It's rather like saying the benefit. best way to avoid straining muscles during a workout is to not exercise.
7th Jan '17 6:59:35 PM SantosLHalper
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->''"The perfect is the enemy of the good."''

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->''"The perfect ->''"Perfection is the enemy of the good."''
24th Dec '16 8:27:13 AM LentilSandEater
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-->'''Daeva''':...But it's the struggle that matters. It's easy for a being of pure Law and Good to live up to these ideals, but you're a mortal. What matters is when you blow it, you get back up on the horse and try again.
8th Dec '16 9:56:07 PM DavidDelony
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* AndADietCoke is one PlayedForLaughs; while it won't make you lose a noticeable amount of weight, drinking diet soda ''does'' cut some empty calories and if you don't eat fast food too often, getting a diet drink, unsweetened tea or water the times you do isn't actually a bad idea. That's not even getting into the fact that nobody really thinks a Diet Coke will help them lose weight if they don't eat other healthy food.

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* AndADietCoke is one PlayedForLaughs; while it won't make you lose a noticeable amount of weight, drinking diet soda ''does'' cut some empty calories and if you don't eat fast food too often, getting a diet drink, unsweetened tea tea, black coffee or water the times you do isn't actually a bad idea. That's not even getting into the fact that nobody really thinks a Diet Coke will help them lose weight if they don't eat other healthy food.
4th Oct '16 10:45:23 PM PsychoGecko
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* Despite laws to eliminate the Glass Ceiling, women still make, on average, a dollar less than men. Therefore the laws don't work and we still need to campaign against the Glass Ceiling. ''On average'' ignores that men and women take different jobs at different hours, and at a personal level they make about the same.

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* Despite Those opposed to gender equality in the workplace cite this, claiming that that laws to eliminate the Glass Ceiling, women still make, on average, a dollar less than men. Therefore the laws don't work and we still need to campaign against the Glass Ceiling. ''On average'' ignores that men and women take different jobs at different hours, and at a personal level they make about the same.subject are the perfect in opposition to a currently good system. This fails to account for the well-documented loopholes involving hiring discrimination, discrimination in promotions, and just the continued practice of women making less even when all factors other than gender are accounted for.
29th Sep '16 1:57:02 PM DavidDelony
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* AndADietCoke is one PlayedForLaughs; while it won't make you lose a noticeable amount of weight, drinking diet soda ''does'' cut some empty calories and if you don't eat fast food too often, getting a diet drink or water the times you do isn't actually a bad idea. That's not even getting into the fact that nobody really thinks a Diet Coke will help them lose weight if they don't eat other healthy food.

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* AndADietCoke is one PlayedForLaughs; while it won't make you lose a noticeable amount of weight, drinking diet soda ''does'' cut some empty calories and if you don't eat fast food too often, getting a diet drink drink, unsweetened tea or water the times you do isn't actually a bad idea. That's not even getting into the fact that nobody really thinks a Diet Coke will help them lose weight if they don't eat other healthy food.
11th Aug '16 5:17:49 PM Argon2
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/6564625?view_full_work=true How Not To Propose]]'', [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel Adrien]] refuses to propose to his girlfriend because he wants the moment to be absolutely perfect when he does: scenery, food, music, everything. Naturally, the universe conspires to ruin all his attempts at setting up such a moment, and Adrien's inability to compromise ends up prolonging the situation so badly that Adrien's girlfriend begins to wonder if he's serious about their relationship at all.
-->'''Plagg:''' Adrien! You have to be kidding me! That was the third custom jeweler we visited. Do you even know what you want?
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