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17th Feb '17 9:57:23 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Gothic D&D setting ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' encourages [=DMs=] to curtail the 'Stab and Loot' mentality, and downplays this trope with the use of Powers Checks (a sort of KarmaMeter). It's merely downplayed because said checks are easier to succeed at if you actually paid evil unto ''evil'' (DisproportionateRetribution is still a very bad idea). Within the setting, [[TheHunter Van Richten]], the resident Expert Monster Hunter, strongly advises against [[VanHelsingHateCrimes indiscriminately slaughtering]] every creature that opposes them (Lycanthropes could be cured). Ironically, he himself has done this at least once: his origin story includes setting flesh-eating zombies on the tribe of Vistani who kidnapped his son and sold him to a vampire for their own personal profit. (He [[DoomMagnet paid]] for that one for the rest of his life, though.)

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** The Gothic D&D setting ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' encourages [=DMs=] to curtail the 'Stab and Loot' mentality, and downplays this trope with the use of Powers Checks (a sort of KarmaMeter). It's merely downplayed because said checks are easier to succeed at if you actually paid evil unto ''evil'' (DisproportionateRetribution is still a very bad idea). Within the setting, [[TheHunter [[HunterOfMonsters Van Richten]], the resident Expert Monster Hunter, strongly advises against [[VanHelsingHateCrimes indiscriminately slaughtering]] every creature that opposes them (Lycanthropes could be cured). Ironically, he himself has done this at least once: his origin story includes setting flesh-eating zombies on the tribe of Vistani who kidnapped his son and sold him to a vampire for their own personal profit. (He [[DoomMagnet paid]] for that one for the rest of his life, though.)
14th Feb '17 4:07:12 PM StFan
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Miracleman}}'', Johnny Bates performs his final transformation into Kid Miracleman while being raped by a bully, then spends about three seconds paying evil unto evil before paying evil unto just about everyone else.

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Miracleman}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Miracleman}}'', Johnny Bates performs his final transformation into Kid Miracleman while being raped by a bully, then spends about three seconds paying evil unto evil before paying evil unto just about everyone else.



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* Near the end of ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'', Picard has managed to keep the Son'a leader Ru'afo off his back long enough to trigger the self-destruct of the {{Phlebotinum}} collector. The ''Enterprise'', the sensors of which have been depicted moments earlier as sensitive enough to identify a lone Klingon on an entire battleship, flies past the exploding collector and beams off Picard... but not Ru'afo, who must have been detected when the transporter operator scanned the collector to locate Picard.

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* Near the end of ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'', Picard has managed to keep the Son'a leader Ru'afo off his back long enough to trigger the self-destruct of the {{Phlebotinum}} collector. The ''Enterprise'', the sensors of which have been depicted moments earlier as sensitive enough to identify a lone Klingon on an entire battleship, flies past the exploding collector and beams off Picard... but not Ru'afo, who must have been detected when the transporter operator scanned the collector to locate Picard.''Franchise/StarTrek'':



** Near the end of ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'', Picard has managed to keep the Son'a leader Ru'afo off his back long enough to trigger the self-destruct of the {{Phlebotinum}} collector. The ''Enterprise'', the sensors of which have been depicted moments earlier as sensitive enough to identify a lone Klingon on an entire battleship, flies past the exploding collector and beams off Picard... but not Ru'afo, who must have been detected when the transporter operator scanned the collector to locate Picard.



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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the Doctor has been implied to have done this on occasion (to the point where he disowned an entire incarnation who be believed did it). In "Face the Raven", when he is betrayed and faced with [[spoiler: the imminent death of his companion]], the Doctor threatens to do this to the [[spoiler: immortal Ashildr]] and a street of alien refugees (some of whom are innocents, all hiding from mankind) using a mixture of enemy races and paramilitary forces. Only a plea from his soon-to-be-lost best friend stops him carrying through with it.
--> '''The Doctor:''' I'll bring UNIT, I'll bring the Zygons, give me a minute, I'll bring the Daleks and the Cybermen. You will save [[spoiler: Clara]], and you will do it now or I will rain hell on you for the rest of time.

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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', the * ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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Doctor has been implied to have done this on occasion (to the point where he disowned an entire incarnation who be he believed did it). In "Face the Raven", when he is betrayed and faced with [[spoiler: the imminent death of his companion]], the Doctor threatens to do this to the [[spoiler: immortal Ashildr]] and a street of alien refugees (some of whom are innocents, all hiding from mankind) using a mixture of enemy races and paramilitary forces. Only a plea from his soon-to-be-lost best friend stops him carrying through with it.
--> '''The --->'''The Doctor:''' I'll bring UNIT, I'll bring the Zygons, give me a minute, I'll bring the Daleks and the Cybermen. You will save [[spoiler: Clara]], [[spoiler:Clara]], and you will do it now or I will rain hell on you for the rest of time.



** Against the Family of Blood who is implied to have taken over the bodies of innocent people and at best induced AndIMustScream on them, at worst killed them before inhabiting their bodies the audience is shown through the very somber and withdrawn monologue of the brother a 180° turn from his self-assured and victorious tone a moment ago what the Doctor did to them, including dropping the mother into the event horizon of a collapsing dwarf star, trapping the sister in every mirror ever, and setting the brother, frozen in time, to watch over England's fields for all eternity.
* It's hard to believe that Bulk and Skull were bullies after all the humiliation given to them constantly for about the five original seasons of ''Franchise/PowerRangers.'' The good guys never used their powers explicitly other than dodge attacks, but they did laugh at them a lot in the freeze shot that ended episodes. They were pretty bad in the first season (Both in the sense of not being nice, but also just not good at being bullies), but later on they got better.

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** Against the Family of Blood -- who is implied to have taken over the bodies of innocent people and at best induced AndIMustScream on them, at worst killed them before inhabiting their bodies -- the audience is shown through the very somber and withdrawn monologue of the brother -- a 180° turn from his self-assured and victorious tone a moment ago -- what the Doctor did to them, including dropping the mother into the event horizon of a collapsing dwarf star, trapping the sister in every mirror ever, and setting the brother, frozen in time, to watch over England's fields for all eternity.
eternity.
* It's hard to believe that Bulk and Skull were bullies after all the humiliation given to them constantly for about the five original seasons of ''Franchise/PowerRangers.'' ''Franchise/PowerRangers''. The good guys never used their powers explicitly other than dodge attacks, but they did laugh at them a lot in the freeze shot that ended episodes. They were pretty bad in the first season (Both (both in the sense of not being nice, but also just not good at being bullies), but later on they got better.



* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E5AHenInTheWolfHouse "A Hen in the Wolf House"]], [[ReverseMole Simmons]] plants her Comicbook/{{SHIELD}} message pad in her Comicbook/{{HYDRA}} partner's desk, to avoid being outed as a spy, leading to said partner being dragged off for [[ColdBloodedTorture interrogation]]. While he was [[AffablyEvil friendly]] to Simmmons, he's still a member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation HYDRA]] who thought the idea of HYDRA using a weapon to kill millions of innocent people was [[KickTheDog "pretty cool"]].

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* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E5AHenInTheWolfHouse "A "[[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E5AHenInTheWolfHouse A Hen in the Wolf House"]], House]]", [[ReverseMole Simmons]] plants her Comicbook/{{SHIELD}} message pad in her Comicbook/{{HYDRA}} partner's desk, to avoid being outed as a spy, leading to said partner being dragged off for [[ColdBloodedTorture interrogation]]. While he was [[AffablyEvil friendly]] to Simmmons, he's still a member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation HYDRA]] who thought the idea of HYDRA using a weapon to kill millions of innocent people was [[KickTheDog "pretty cool"]].



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* According to ''Pinball/AttackFromMars,'' the proper response to a [[AlienInvasion Martian invasion]] is to steal their ships and bomb Mars to hell. And then [[WizardMode Rule the Universe,]] if you so desire.
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* This is pretty common in general. If an individual or faction, especially a {{heel}}, is known for tormenting their opponents in a certain way (breaking a certain bone, setting them on fire, spray-painting them in order to humiliate them after the match, 5-on-1 attacks, etc.), chances are that [[IronicEcho it's going to happen to them]] before the gig is up. And semi-major heels are generally free game to humiliate and torture without earning the ire of the audience.
* One of the big things that Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin is known for is harassing, sabotaging, and generally torturing his opponents (usually heel in these cases), often using their methods. (stalking and setting booby traps for Wrestling/{{D|generationX}}X, putting Wrestling/TheUndertaker up on the cross, trying to kill [[Wrestling/TripleH HHH]] at Survivor Series 2000, etc.)
* At LLF's fourth Anniversary show Polly Star, who had been voted "bitch of the year", ended up on the receiving end of her usual strategies in the second fall of her hair vs hair match against Nikki Roxx after having dominated the first, culminating in the fans roaring in approval when Roxx hit ButtMonkey referee Mulato (known for his bias against foreigners) in the {{groin|attack}} with a pipe and Star took the blame, giving Roxx the third fall by {{disqualification|inducedvictory}}.
* Used by Wrestling/{{Edge}} against Wrestling/{{Kane}}. Kane is known for being a sadistic monster that torments and tortures his opponents without remorse: a NobleDemon at best, one of the biggest heels in all of wrestling at worst. Edge proceeds to kidnap Kane's [[Wrestling/PaulBearer evil father]] (who'd himself been seen as a monster quite often) and torture and torment him and Kane. Just so happens to follow Kane being an even bigger monster than normal, it's almost as if the WWE wanted to make sure Kane had it coming.
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* According to ''Pinball/AttackFromMars,'' the proper response to a [[AlienInvasion Martian invasion]] is to steal their ships and bomb Mars to hell. And then [[WizardMode Rule the Universe,]] if you so desire.
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[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
* This is pretty common in general. If an individual or faction, especially a {{heel}}, is known for tormenting their opponents in a certain way (breaking a certain bone, setting them on fire, spray-painting them in order to humiliate them after the match, 5-on-1 attacks, etc.), chances are that [[IronicEcho it's going to happen to them]] before the gig is up. And semi-major heels are generally free game to humiliate and torture without earning the ire of the audience.
* One of the big things that Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin is known for is harassing, sabotaging, and generally torturing his opponents (usually heel in these cases), often using their methods. (stalking and setting booby traps for Wrestling/{{D|generationX}}X, putting Wrestling/TheUndertaker up on the cross, trying to kill [[Wrestling/TripleH HHH]] at Survivor Series 2000, etc.)
* At LLF's fourth Anniversary show Polly Star, who had been voted "bitch of the year", ended up on the receiving end of her usual strategies in the second fall of her hair vs hair match against Nikki Roxx after having dominated the first, culminating in the fans roaring in approval when Roxx hit ButtMonkey referee Mulato (known for his bias against foreigners) in the {{groin|attack}} with a pipe and Star took the blame, giving Roxx the third fall by {{disqualification|inducedvictory}}.
* Used by Wrestling/{{Edge}} against Wrestling/{{Kane}}. Kane is known for being a sadistic monster that torments and tortures his opponents without remorse: a NobleDemon at best, one of the biggest heels in all of wrestling at worst. Edge proceeds to kidnap Kane's [[Wrestling/PaulBearer evil father]] (who'd himself been seen as a monster quite often) and torture and torment him and Kane. Just so happens to follow Kane being an even bigger monster than normal, it's almost as if the WWE wanted to make sure Kane had it coming.
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* According to ''Pinball/AttackFromMars,'' the proper response to a [[AlienInvasion Martian invasion]] is to steal their ships and bomb Mars to hell. And then [[WizardMode Rule the Universe,]] if you so desire.
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[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
* This is pretty common in general. If an individual or faction, especially a {{heel}}, is known for tormenting their opponents in a certain way (breaking a certain bone, setting them on fire, spray-painting them in order to humiliate them after the match, 5-on-1 attacks, etc.), chances are that [[IronicEcho it's going to happen to them]] before the gig is up. And semi-major heels are generally free game to humiliate and torture without earning the ire of the audience.
* One of the big things that Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin is known for is harassing, sabotaging, and generally torturing his opponents (usually heel in these cases), often using their methods. (stalking and setting booby traps for Wrestling/{{D|generationX}}X, putting Wrestling/TheUndertaker up on the cross, trying to kill [[Wrestling/TripleH HHH]] at Survivor Series 2000, etc.)
* At LLF's fourth Anniversary show Polly Star, who had been voted "bitch of the year", ended up on the receiving end of her usual strategies in the second fall of her hair vs hair match against Nikki Roxx after having dominated the first, culminating in the fans roaring in approval when Roxx hit ButtMonkey referee Mulato (known for his bias against foreigners) in the {{groin|attack}} with a pipe and Star took the blame, giving Roxx the third fall by {{disqualification|inducedvictory}}.
* Used by Wrestling/{{Edge}} against Wrestling/{{Kane}}. Kane is known for being a sadistic monster that torments and tortures his opponents without remorse: a NobleDemon at best, one of the biggest heels in all of wrestling at worst. Edge proceeds to kidnap Kane's [[Wrestling/PaulBearer evil father]] (who'd himself been seen as a monster quite often) and torture and torment him and Kane. Just so happens to follow Kane being an even bigger monster than normal, it's almost as if the WWE wanted to make sure Kane had it coming.
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** In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', killing bandits raises your Karma meter, which is fair enough. It also goes up when you kill drug dealers and pimps, which still makes sense. But killing 'prostitutes' also raises the Karma meter (not by much, [[DisposableSexWorker but damn]])! It's kinda funny that a character is revered as a great hero for killing masses of whores. [[SarcasmMode Jack the Ripper: Hero of the Wasteland!]]

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** In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', ''VideoGame/Fallout2'', killing bandits raises your Karma meter, which is fair enough. It also goes up when you kill drug dealers and pimps, which still makes sense. But killing 'prostitutes' also raises the Karma meter (not by much, [[DisposableSexWorker but damn]])! It's kinda funny that a character is revered as a great hero for killing masses of whores. [[SarcasmMode Jack the Ripper: Hero of the Wasteland!]]



** ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' provides good karma and good items for gunning down Evil characters, even if it's done in cold blood. Since the definition of evil is... [[BlackAndGrayMorality rather loose]]... in the local universe, this can lead to some interesting interactions. Where stealing scrap material loses KarmaMeter points, and taking a [[ChainsawGood Ripper]] to a friendly NPC's head can provide points.

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** ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' ''VideoGame/Fallout3'' provides good karma and good items for gunning down Evil characters, even if it's done in cold blood. Since the definition of evil is... [[BlackAndGrayMorality rather loose]]... in the local universe, this can lead to some interesting interactions. Where stealing scrap material loses KarmaMeter points, and taking a [[ChainsawGood Ripper]] to a friendly NPC's head can provide points.



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* Pretty much the standard response for Chuck AKA WebComic/WeaponBrown. Among his more notable accomplishments is tearing off the cybernetic limbs off his old tormentor Croc, brutally beating and torturing him for a bit, before [[UpToEleven shoving him assfirst onto a flamethrower, and firing it]], and cutting out Lucy's tongue, and watch her try to beg for mercy without it.

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* In the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review of ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', Yahtzee mentions that since he stopped stealing everything that wasn't bolted down, he can now kill bandits with a smug sense of moral superiority...before taking all of their stuff.
-->"Which isn't stealing! They attacked me first, making it mine by International Law of 'Go F*ck Yourselves".
* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'': ''Reconstruction'' Agent South Dakota killed her brother North Dakota, and left Agent Washington for dead just to save her own skin. She was finally cornered by Washington (after Caboose shot her) who shots her in the head, and deposes her body by burning it, burying it, and [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill blowing it up]]. She totally deserved all that.
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* Pretty much the standard response for Chuck AKA a.k.a. WebComic/WeaponBrown. Among his more notable accomplishments is tearing off the cybernetic limbs off his old tormentor Croc, brutally beating and torturing him for a bit, before [[UpToEleven shoving him assfirst onto a flamethrower, and firing it]], and cutting out Lucy's tongue, and watch her try to beg for mercy without it.



* Being based on ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' addresses this. It's notable that usually the heroes don't go 'kill evil and take their stuff', as a general rule. They have a quest to kill a very evil person, and have to fight and kill said evil person's minions. When resident HeroicComedicSociopath Belkar mentions it, the others look at him strangely.

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* Being based on ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' addresses this. It's notable that usually the heroes don't go 'kill "kill evil and take their stuff', stuff", as a general rule. They have a quest to kill a very evil person, and have to fight and kill said evil person's minions. When resident HeroicComedicSociopath Belkar mentions it, the others look at him strangely.



** Also an example of this in the prequel Start of Darkness; [[spoiler: Since the goblin race is supposedly 'Always Chaotic Evil', normally good and honest paladins burn and pillage a goblin town without a second thought]].
*** It's also noted that the goblins are justifiably angry because of this situation, so much so that their leader ascended to godhood after death. He is currently trying to gain the power of the Snarl (Via his mortal representative Redcloak, who has some of the Dark One's power via his trademark cloak) to use it to extort the more powerful gods into giving the Goblins a lot in life above EXP fodder. My point? The Paladins raid the goblins to protect the gate and to gain strength to do that better, and the goblins raid the humans to keep from being EXP fodder for life. It's a Two-Way-Vicious-Cycle of pay evil unto evil. They each attack the other because its what the other does to them and to ensure their own survival.
* WebComic/AxeCop devotes most of his time to cleaving the skulls of "bad guys". Enforced in that the author is six-years old.
** Also, he can tell good guys from bad guys by their front kicks.

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** Also an example of this in the prequel Start of Darkness; [[spoiler: Since ''Recap/StartOfDarkness''. [[spoiler:Since the goblin race is supposedly 'Always "Always Chaotic Evil', Evil", normally good and honest paladins burn and pillage a goblin town without a second thought]].
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thought]]. It's also noted that the goblins are justifiably angry because of this situation, so much so that their leader ascended to godhood after death. He is currently trying to gain the power of the Snarl (Via (via his mortal representative Redcloak, who has some of the Dark One's power via his trademark cloak) to use it to extort the more powerful gods into giving the Goblins a lot in life above EXP fodder. My point? The Paladins raid the goblins to protect the gate and to gain strength to do that better, and the goblins raid the humans to keep from being EXP fodder for life. It's a Two-Way-Vicious-Cycle of pay evil unto evil. They each attack the other because its what the other does to them and to ensure their own survival.
* WebComic/AxeCop devotes most of his time to cleaving the skulls of "bad guys". Enforced in that the author is six-years old.
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old. Also, he can tell good guys from bad guys by their front kicks.



** When the Fortuneteller confronted Forgath, she managed to [[GenreSavvy point out to him the horror being inflicted on the goblins]]. For a brief moment, Forgath realized that their actions were even more evil than the goblins who had simply been arguing about various things in their camp. Then Fortuneteller ruined it...
** Minmax also throws [[spoiler:Dellyn Goblinslayer]] through the bar window before picking a fight with him. Then immediately at the end of their fight, [[spoiler:Goblinslayer was stabbed to death by Kin, whom he spent his time raping]].

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** When the Fortuneteller confronted confronts Forgath, she managed manages to [[GenreSavvy point out to him the horror being inflicted on the goblins]]. For a brief moment, Forgath realized realizes that their actions were are even more evil than the goblins who had simply been arguing about various things in their camp. Then Fortuneteller ruined ruins it...
** Minmax also throws [[spoiler:Dellyn Goblinslayer]] through the bar window before picking a fight with him. Then immediately at the end of their fight, [[spoiler:Goblinslayer was is stabbed to death by Kin, whom he spent his time raping]].



** In the ''Literature/BridgeToTerabithia'' movie review, the Critic doesn't generally like bullying but also is against using violence to respond to bullying. That said, when the bully in the movie [[spoiler:made a joke about the protagonist's best friend dying tragically, the protagonist lost it and attacked the bully]] and the Critic approved.

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** * In the ''Literature/BridgeToTerabithia'' movie review, the Critic WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic doesn't generally like bullying but also is against using violence to respond to bullying. That said, when the bully in the movie [[spoiler:made a joke about the protagonist's best friend dying tragically, the protagonist lost it and attacked the bully]] and the Critic approved.



* In the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review of ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', Yahtzee mentions that since he stopped stealing everything that wasn't bolted down, he can now kill bandits with a smug sense of moral superiority...before taking all of their stuff.
-->"Which isn't stealing! They attacked me first, making it mine by International Law of 'Go F*ck Yourselves".
* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'': ''Reconstruction'' Agent South Dakota killed her brother North Dakota, and left Agent Washington for dead just to save her own skin. She was finally cornered by Washington (after Caboose shot her) who shots her in the head, and deposes her body by burning it, burying it, and [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill blowing it up]]. She totally deserved all that.
* In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', [[SociopathicHero Shadow Stalker]] repeatedly attempted to kill [[JustifiedCriminal Grue]] for no other reason than that his powers countered hers, had killed before, attempted to give the same treatment to [[VillainProtagonist Skitter]] before the Undersiders caught her, and [[spoiler:in her civilian identity, tormented and bullied Taylor almost to the point of suicide and gave her a TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening]]. So, when [[PeoplePuppets Regent]] mind-controlled her into ruining her relationship with her family and faking an attempted suicide, sending her to Juvie for violating her probation, nobody really minded.
** Later, Regent permanently enslaves the mass-murdering supervillain Shatterbird, and treats her in ways that his more moral teammate Skitter finds extremely discomfitting, but he and Tattletale argue that, since Shatterbird has murdered entire ''cities'' worth of people, she deserves whatever she gets.

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* In the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review of ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', Yahtzee mentions that since he stopped stealing everything that wasn't bolted down, he can now kill bandits with a smug sense of moral superiority...before taking all of their stuff.
-->"Which isn't stealing! They attacked me first, making it mine by International Law of 'Go F*ck Yourselves".
* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'': ''Reconstruction'' Agent South Dakota killed her brother North Dakota, and left Agent Washington for dead just to save her own skin. She was finally cornered by Washington (after Caboose shot her) who shots her in the head, and deposes her body by burning it, burying it, and [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill blowing it up]]. She totally deserved all that.
* In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', [[SociopathicHero Shadow Stalker]] repeatedly attempted to kill [[JustifiedCriminal Grue]] for no other reason than that his powers countered hers, had killed before, attempted to give the same treatment to [[VillainProtagonist Skitter]] before the Undersiders caught her, and [[spoiler:in her civilian identity, tormented and bullied Taylor almost to the point of suicide and gave her a TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening]]. So, when [[PeoplePuppets Regent]] mind-controlled her into ruining her relationship with her family and faking an attempted suicide, sending her to Juvie for violating her probation, nobody really minded.
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minded. Later, Regent permanently enslaves the mass-murdering supervillain Shatterbird, and treats her in ways that his more moral teammate Skitter finds extremely discomfitting, but he and Tattletale argue that, since Shatterbird has murdered entire ''cities'' worth of people, she deserves whatever she gets.



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* ''WesternAnimation/MrPicklesGoodBoy'' features an evil dog that brutally murders or captures and tortures bad people.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MrPicklesGoodBoy'' ''WesternAnimation/MrPickles'' features an evil dog that brutally murders or captures and tortures bad people.
7th Feb '17 7:51:47 AM Kalmbach
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*** The Legion destroyed the NCR garrison at Searchlight by opening casks of radioactive waste being stored there, turning the soldiers into ghouls. The leader of the survivors asks the Courier to destroy the Legion slaver camp and ferry terminal at Cottonwood Cove in retaliation. If you chose to do this by dumping a truckload of radioactive barrels onto the camp, he will comment on the irony of it, even more so if [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillian you are a girl]].
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* Dr. Luis, the antagonist of ''VideoGame/SouthOfReal'', spent the entirety of the main character's childhood [[PlayingWithSyringes experimenting on his own adopted children.]] Sure, Luis was trying to weaponize the kids and use them to stop TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. And sure, he's become a DeathSeeker by the time the game rolls around. But there's no reason to forgive him, whatever his reasons. [[spoiler:And there are no consequences for taking him out either.]]
27th Jan '17 11:48:28 PM erforce
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* ''Film/TheToxicAvenger'' It's played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy, [[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]].

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* ''Film/TheToxicAvenger'' It's ''Film/TheToxicAvenger''
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played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy, [[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]].



** He saves Sweetie Honey from being raped by brutally killing the rapists. He rips out Tex's tongue, [[AndShowItToYou shows it to him]], and throws it on Dex's face. As Tex screams in pain, Toxie lifts him up and breaks his neck by slamming him into a ceiling. Dex and Lex are then killed by Toxie using his trusty mop. Afterward, he goes to comfort Sweetie, asking if she's ok, telling her the men won't hurt her anymore, and holds her hand while offering to take her to his shack so she could call someone to take her home.

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** He saves Sweetie Honey in ''[[Film/CitizenToxiTheToxicAvengerIV Citizen Toxie]]'' from being raped by brutally killing the rapists. He rips out Tex's tongue, [[AndShowItToYou shows it to him]], and throws it on Dex's face. As Tex screams in pain, Toxie lifts him up and breaks his neck by slamming him into a ceiling. Dex and Lex are then killed by Toxie using his trusty mop. Afterward, he goes to comfort Sweetie, asking if she's ok, telling her the men won't hurt her anymore, and holds her hand while offering to take her to his shack so she could call someone to take her home.
14th Jan '17 10:59:26 AM SimiOfDoom
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* Karsa Orlong from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' is not an innocent boyscout himself, but he is quite fond of dishing out [[KarmicDeath karmic deaths]], to paedophiles and slavers indiscriminately, since he finds their practixes ''appalling''. When he learns that the High Mage Bidithal raped Felisin Younger, he [[spoiler: rips off his privates and shoves them down his throat]].
11th Jan '17 8:36:57 PM merotoker
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* Every time SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} clashes with anti-mutant hate groups. Magneto is Jewish and survived the infamous Auschwitz concentration camp. The ComicBook/RedSkull is a Nazi. While working together during ''ActsOfVengeance'', Magneto decided to get some revenge on the Red Skull, beating the living crap out of him and leaving him in a SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere with some jugs of water and his own thoughts.

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* Every time SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} clashes with anti-mutant hate groups. Magneto is Jewish and survived the infamous Auschwitz concentration camp. The ComicBook/RedSkull is a Nazi. While working together during ''ActsOfVengeance'', Magneto decided to get some revenge on the Red Skull, beating the living crap out of him and leaving him in a SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere with some jugs of water and his own thoughts.



** This was also an incidental reason for her creation in the first place: While many of the Facility's clients for her services were certainly bad men (among the bidders shown in one conference are Mr. Sinister, Doctor Doom, and the freakin' ''ComicBook/RedSkull''), many of her targets ended up being rather bad men (dictators, drug czars, etc.) as well. Sarah also uses her [[spoiler: to track down and murder the serial killer who abducted her niece]], while [[spoiler: Rice sending her to kill Sutter crosses over with KickTheSonOfABitch, as Sutter may not have abused her himself, but he sure as hell enabled everything]].

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** This was also an incidental reason for her creation in the first place: While many of the Facility's clients for her services were certainly bad men (among the bidders shown in one conference are Mr. Sinister, Doctor Doom, ComicBook/DoctorDoom, and the freakin' ''ComicBook/RedSkull''), many of her targets ended up being rather bad men (dictators, drug czars, etc.) as well. Sarah also uses her [[spoiler: to track down and murder the serial killer who abducted her niece]], while [[spoiler: Rice sending her to kill Sutter crosses over with KickTheSonOfABitch, as Sutter may not have abused her himself, but he sure as hell enabled everything]].



* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'': Mr. Incredible kills the villain by causing him to get sucked into his plane's engine. Granted, the villain had previously murdered a great portion of his fellow superheroes and nearly his family and he did try to [[BerserkButton kidnap his baby son to raise as a supervillain sidekick]], but it's pretty jarring that earlier, he had mocked Incredible for his inability to resort to murder. What makes it worse is that Mr. Incredible did it right in front of his [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop his whole family.]] It should be noted, however, that Mr. Incredible did not directly throw the villain into the engine. He threw a car at the plane, and the collision is what threw the villain to his death.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'': Mr. Incredible kills the villain by causing him to get sucked into his plane's engine. Granted, the villain had previously murdered a great portion of his fellow superheroes and nearly his family and he did try to [[BerserkButton kidnap his baby son to raise as a supervillain sidekick]], sidekick, but it's pretty jarring that earlier, he had mocked Incredible for his inability to resort to murder. What makes it worse is that Mr. Incredible did it right in front of his [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop his whole family.]] It should be noted, however, that Mr. Incredible did not directly throw the villain into the engine. He threw a car at the plane, and the collision is what threw the villain to his death.



** In ''Film/BatmanReturns'', ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} electrocutes [[HateSink Max]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Shreck]] to death with a taser in his mouth. She also beats up and slashes up the face of a mugger/rapist earlier in the movie on her first night out as a vigilante.

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** * In ''Film/BatmanReturns'', ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} electrocutes [[HateSink Max]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Shreck]] to death with a taser in his mouth. She also beats up and slashes up the face of a mugger/rapist earlier in the movie on her first night out as a vigilante.



* ''Film/TheToxicAvenger'' It's played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy,[[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]].

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* ''Film/TheToxicAvenger'' It's played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy,[[GoodIsNotNice enemy, [[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]].



* The book and movie ''Film/ATimeToKill'' are about a father who kills the two men who raped his ten-year-old daughter, [[MoralDissonance before they have even been brought to trial]]. He was afraid that they would be acquitted, despite being caught red-handed, because they were white and his daughter was black. It was set in TheDeepSouth, after all. The daughter's father throughout expresses no remorse, even loudly declaring in court, "Yes they deserved to die, and I hope they burn in hell!"

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* The book and movie ''Film/ATimeToKill'' are about a father who kills the two men who raped his ten-year-old daughter, [[MoralDissonance before they have even been brought to trial]]. He was afraid that they would be acquitted, despite being caught red-handed, because they were white and his daughter was black. It was set in TheDeepSouth, the DeepSouth, after all. The daughter's father throughout expresses no remorse, even loudly declaring in court, "Yes they deserved to die, and I hope they burn in hell!"



*** [[TheProfessor W.E.B. du Havel]] lampshades this later, noting in his lecture to the other characters [[InfoDump and the readers]] that this is the reason that the most post-revolutionary systems quickly fail or at least devolve into the civil wars: most revolutionary movement are created in a responce to [[ThisIsUnforgivable some intolerable condition of regime]], and are more concentrated on ''fighting it'' than the rather technical needs of ''[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow governing]]'' the post-revolutionary society that resulted from their victory.

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*** [[TheProfessor W.E.B. du Havel]] lampshades this later, noting in his lecture to the other characters [[InfoDump and the readers]] that this is the reason that the most post-revolutionary systems quickly fail or at least devolve into the civil wars: most revolutionary movement are created in a responce response to [[ThisIsUnforgivable some intolerable condition of regime]], and are more concentrated on ''fighting it'' than the rather technical needs of ''[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow governing]]'' the post-revolutionary society that resulted from their victory.



* One of the big things that Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin is known for is harassing, sabotaging, and generally torturing his opponents (usually heel in these cases), often using their methods. (stalking and setting booby traps for Wrestling/{{D|generationX}}X, putting Wrestling/TheUndertaker up on the cross, trying to kill [[Wrestling/TripleH HHH]] at Survivor Series, etc.)

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* One of the big things that Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin is known for is harassing, sabotaging, and generally torturing his opponents (usually heel in these cases), often using their methods. (stalking and setting booby traps for Wrestling/{{D|generationX}}X, putting Wrestling/TheUndertaker up on the cross, trying to kill [[Wrestling/TripleH HHH]] at Survivor Series, Series 2000, etc.)



** The spin-off game ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' features Vhailor, a member of the Mercykillers considered fanatical even by his faction's standards. His belief in Justice (capital letter included) is so strong it's allowed him to postphone his own death because there are still lawbreakers to punish.

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** The spin-off game ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' features Vhailor, a member of the Mercykillers considered fanatical even by his faction's standards. His belief in Justice (capital letter included) is so strong it's allowed him to postphone postpone his own death because there are still lawbreakers to punish.



** The classic game also rules for a magic using [[ReligionIsMagic priest]] who derives his powers from either UsefulNotes/{{Aztec}} BloodMagic or Anahuac (a syncretic mixture of Aztec faith and Catholicism).

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** The classic game also rules for a magic using [[ReligionIsMagic priest]] who derives his powers from either UsefulNotes/{{Aztec}} Myth/{{Aztec|Mythology}} BloodMagic or Anahuac (a syncretic mixture of Aztec faith and Catholicism).



* VideoGame/{{Dishonored}} lends itself to this very well. Main characters in both games are set upon by gangs, [[CorruptChurch overzealous religious authorities]], and [[AristocratsAreEvil amoral aristocrats]], and while murdering EVERYONE will net a player the worst ending, the main targets of each level are open to both LaserGuidedKarma and alternatively straight-up murder depending on the player's choice.

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* VideoGame/{{Dishonored}} ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'' lends itself to this very well. Main characters in both games are set upon by gangs, [[CorruptChurch overzealous religious authorities]], and [[AristocratsAreEvil amoral aristocrats]], and while murdering EVERYONE will net a player the worst ending, the main targets of each level are open to both LaserGuidedKarma and alternatively straight-up murder depending on the player's choice.



** Lampshaded in the beginning of Morrowind. The local tavern owner at the starting town tells you that you're free to increase your skills on bandits, but if you try that on townsfolk it's called murder. He then points you in the direction of the closest bandit hideout. The guards will also tell you that outlaws legally have no rights, and you can deal with them as painfully as you want. Also lampshaded in Oblivion by the Countess of Leyawin: she says to go ahead and kill any outlaws you find and take their stuff: everybody on the right side of the law wins.

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** Lampshaded in the beginning of Morrowind.''Morrowind''. The local tavern owner at the starting town tells you that you're free to increase your skills on bandits, but if you try that on townsfolk it's called murder. He then points you in the direction of the closest bandit hideout. The guards will also tell you that outlaws legally have no rights, and you can deal with them as painfully as you want. Also lampshaded in Oblivion by the Countess of Leyawin: she says to go ahead and kill any outlaws you find and take their stuff: everybody on the right side of the law wins.



* Aribeth's actions in VideoGame/NeverwinterNights are more of [[BlackAndGrayMorality pay evil unto very questionable]], but the idea is there.

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* Aribeth's actions in VideoGame/NeverwinterNights ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'' are more of [[BlackAndGrayMorality pay evil unto very questionable]], but the idea is there.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' [[spoiler: Wheatley]] pulls this during his descent into villainy when he [[spoiler: turns [=GLaDOS=] into [[ItMakesSenseInContext a potato]].]]

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' [[spoiler: Wheatley]] pulls this during his descent into villainy when he [[spoiler: turns [=GLaDOS=] into [[ItMakesSenseInContext a potato]].]]potato]]]].



** Additionally, near the end of the storyline dealing with the Ronin, [[spoiler: Johnny Gat]] takes revenge for the murder of [[spoiler: his girlfriend, Aisha,]] by [[spoiler: beating, humiliating, and locking the man who ordered her murder in the coffin and burying him alive]]. This game ''loves'' this trope. It's like playing as [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Belkar]]. Let's put that into clearer perspective: [[spoiler: Johnny is a kill-crazy psycho who would've killed Shougo without being given a reason, but at that moment was in mourning at Aisha's ''funeral in progress'', and even gave Shougo a chance to leave. Shougo insisted on disrupting the service to scoff at and provoke Johnny, so I doubt anyone had any pity for him when he got put into the ground right then and there.]]

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** Additionally, near the end of the storyline dealing with the Ronin, [[spoiler: Johnny Gat]] takes revenge for the murder of [[spoiler: his girlfriend, Aisha,]] by [[spoiler: beating, humiliating, and locking the man who ordered her murder in the coffin and burying him alive]]. This game ''loves'' this trope. It's like playing as [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Belkar]]. Let's put that into clearer perspective: [[spoiler: Johnny is a kill-crazy psycho who would've killed Shougo without being given a reason, but at that moment was in mourning at Aisha's ''funeral in progress'', and even gave Shougo a chance to leave. Shougo insisted on disrupting the service to scoff at and provoke Johnny, so I doubt anyone had any pity for him when he got put into the ground right then and there.]]there]].



* Alec Mason in ''RedFaction Guerrilla'' spends most of the game causing property damage in the hundreds of millions, bombing industrial centers and troop barracks, and breaking many, many people in half through sledgehammer-induced blunt force trauma. There's no disguising the fact that he's functionally a terrorist...except that he's facing off the oppressive, thuggish, and violent EDF, who harass and abuse workers, shoot miners with little provocation, who finally pushed the [[RefusedTheCall initially reluctant]] Alec to join the Red Faction after an EDF gunship [[ItsPersonal killed his younger brother.]] The entire game really boils down to a RoaringRampageOfRevenge led by Alec Mason against the EDF to avenge Daniel.

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* Alec Mason in ''RedFaction ''VideoGame/RedFaction Guerrilla'' spends most of the game causing property damage in the hundreds of millions, bombing industrial centers and troop barracks, and breaking many, many people in half through sledgehammer-induced blunt force trauma. There's no disguising the fact that he's functionally a terrorist...except that he's facing off the oppressive, thuggish, and violent EDF, who harass and abuse workers, shoot miners with little provocation, who finally pushed the [[RefusedTheCall [[RefusalOfTheCall initially reluctant]] Alec to join the Red Faction after an EDF gunship [[ItsPersonal killed his younger brother.]] The entire game really boils down to a RoaringRampageOfRevenge led by Alec Mason against the EDF to avenge Daniel.



* Pretty much the standard response for Chuck AKA WebComic/WeaponBrown. Among his more noteable accomplishments is tearing off the cybernetic limbs off his old tormentor Croc, brutally beating and torturing him for a bit, before [[UpToEleven shoving him assfirst onto a flamethrower, and firing it]], and cutting out Lucy's tongue, and watch her try to beg for mercy without it.

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* Pretty much the standard response for Chuck AKA WebComic/WeaponBrown. Among his more noteable notable accomplishments is tearing off the cybernetic limbs off his old tormentor Croc, brutally beating and torturing him for a bit, before [[UpToEleven shoving him assfirst onto a flamethrower, and firing it]], and cutting out Lucy's tongue, and watch her try to beg for mercy without it.



* In ''StrongFemaleProtagonist'', a webcomic dealing a teenage ex-superhero (Allison, aka Mega-Girl) wrestling with questions about the efficacy and ethics of traditional superheroism, [[spoiler: Moonshadow]] is of this view, and takes to killing rapists who escape justice under the law. Allison admits she'd ''like'' to Pay Evil Unto Evil sometimes, but recognizes it's wrong.

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* In ''StrongFemaleProtagonist'', ''WebComic/StrongFemaleProtagonist'', a webcomic dealing a teenage ex-superhero (Allison, aka Mega-Girl) wrestling with questions about the efficacy and ethics of traditional superheroism, [[spoiler: Moonshadow]] is of this view, and takes to killing rapists who escape justice under the law. Allison admits she'd ''like'' to Pay Evil Unto Evil sometimes, but recognizes it's wrong.



* WordOfGod says this is the background for the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEFxSOVd6A brutal pilot]] of WebOriginal/CauseOfDeath, but the first episode only alludes to the slob [[spoiler: doing ''something'' to the girl in the picture]], but whatever he did, we don't find out, since [[spoiler: he's murdered fast.]]

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* WordOfGod says this is the background for the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEFxSOVd6A brutal pilot]] of WebOriginal/CauseOfDeath, but the first episode only alludes to the slob [[spoiler: doing ''something'' to the girl in the picture]], but whatever he did, we don't find out, since [[spoiler: he's murdered fast.]]fast]].
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* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E5AHenInTheWolfHouse "A Hen in the Wolf House"]], [[ReverseMole Simmons]] plants her Comicbook/{{SHIELD}} message pad in her Comicbook/{{HYDRA}} partner's desk, to avoid being outed as a spy, leading to said partner being dragged off for [[ColdBloodedTorture interrogation]]. While he was [[AffablyEvil friendly]] to Simmmons, he's still a member of [[NebulousEvilOrganisation HYDRA]] who thought the idea of HYDRA using a weapon to kill millions of innocent people was [[KickTheDog "pretty cool"]].
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** A clearer example is the incident that drives Rorschach AxCrazy. [[spoiler:He tracks a child abductor/molester to his home, only to find out that the abductor has murdered the little girl he kidnapped, chopped her into pieces, and fed her to his dogs. Rorschach responds by killing the guy's dogs, waiting for him to return home, throwing his dead dogs at him, beating him half to death, then handcuffing him in place and killing him as he screams for mercy and begs to simply be arrested (the method differs here; in the original comic, he burns the place down, frying the man alive, while in the movie, he simply splits the guy's head open repeatedly with a cleaver as he shouts, "'''Men''' get arrested...dogs get '''put down'''!")]]

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** A clearer example is the incident that drives Rorschach AxCrazy. [[spoiler:He tracks a child abductor/molester abductor to his home, only to find out that the abductor has murdered the little girl he kidnapped, chopped her into pieces, and fed her to his dogs. Rorschach responds by killing the guy's dogs, waiting for him to return home, throwing his dead dogs at him, beating him half to death, then handcuffing him in place and killing him as he screams for mercy and begs to simply be arrested (the method differs here; in the original comic, he burns the place down, frying the man alive, while in the movie, he simply splits the guy's head open repeatedly with a cleaver as he shouts, "'''Men''' get arrested...dogs get '''put down'''!")]]



* Mostly averted by Batman, [[TerrorHero surprisingly.]] His MO involves terrorizing criminals and pummeling them within an inch of their lives, but he refuses to kill, and he does indeed have a very strong belief in justice, and believes that you can't fix the system if you yourself are hindering it. Of course, this all depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a borderline outlaw who doesn't give a damn about the law, and will even beat the hell out of petty criminals. But other times he will having varying levels of tolerance towards certain criminals. Two contrasting examples would be ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and ''[[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Noel.]]''

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* Mostly averted by Played with Batman, [[TerrorHero surprisingly.]] His MO involves terrorizing criminals and pummeling them within an inch of their lives, but he (generally) refuses to kill, and he does indeed have a very strong belief in justice, and believes that you can't fix the system if you yourself are hindering it. Of course, this all depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a borderline outlaw who doesn't give a damn about the law, and will even beat the hell out of petty criminals. But other times he will having varying levels of tolerance towards certain criminals. Two contrasting examples would be ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and ''[[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Noel.]]''
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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'': The game spends quite a bit of time showing that Penguin is a {{Sadist}}ic BadBoss who throws people in a shark tank and puts both living and dead people on display in a museum for shits and giggles. When Mr. Freeze, who was one such "exhibit," breaks free and gets his PoweredArmor back with Batman's help, he gets his revenge by immediately crushing Penguin's hand, which Batman had earlier broken, underfoot until Batman forces him to back off, and then locks him in one of the display cases. It's quite satisfying, really.
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