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[[caption-width-right:300:As demonstrated by [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Mr. Frank Castle]], this trope's PatronSaint.]]
10th Aug '17 10:36:57 AM Wooboo
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* You can do some truly brutal things to the bad guys in ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', but you're doing it to the [[StupidJetpackHitler magitech]] [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] [[AlternateHistory who took over the world]]. And trust us, [[CrapsackWorld they haven't made it a nice world, either.]]
7th Aug '17 2:04:35 PM Gemser
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* ''VideoGame/HauntingStarringPolterguy'': Poltergeist Polterguy thinks the best thing is to haunt the Sardini Family's houses to teach them a lesson.
1st Aug '17 4:56:20 PM merotoker
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** When he returns to the future much stronger after the Cell Games, Future Trunks subjects the future Androids 17 and 18, two {{Robotic Psychopath}}s who rampaged across the Earth for twenty years killing whoever and whenever they wanted, to this. He even states outright that he's doing to them ''exactly'' what they did to Future Gohan, his mentor/surrogate brother: making them feel completely outmached and powerless before killing them.

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** When he returns to the future much stronger after the Cell Games, Future Trunks subjects the future Androids 17 and 18, two {{Robotic Psychopath}}s who rampaged across the Earth for twenty years killing whoever and whenever they wanted, to this. He even states outright that he's doing to them ''exactly'' what they did to Future Gohan, his mentor/surrogate brother: making them feel completely outmached outmatched and powerless before killing them.



* Played with Franchise/{{Batman}}, [[TerrorHero surprisingly.]] His MO involves terrorizing criminals and pummeling them within an inch of their lives, but he (generally) refuses to kill, and he does indeed have a very strong belief in justice, and believes that you can't fix the system if you yourself are hindering it. Of course, this all depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a borderline outlaw who doesn't give a damn about the law, and will even beat the hell out of petty criminals. But other times he will having varying levels of tolerance towards certain criminals. Two contrasting examples would be ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and ''[[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Noel.]]'' Particularly notable is the example of [[YouKilledMyFather Joe Chill]]: On one occasion, Batman scared him to almost lunacy, and after revealing his secret identity to him, [[DrivenToSuicide he brought his gun to him so he would blow his own brains off]] before the other criminals would kill him in retaliation.



** After her escape, Laura's cold detachment towards killing and torturing her enemies means she does this ''a lot'' when her friends and teammates are unwilling to do so themselves, which except when she's serving on X-Force (a whole ''team'' of X-Men like ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} who are willing to pay evil unto evil) is pretty much all the time. Not that she doesn't [[WhatTheHellHero get called out on her methods]].
* Played with Batman, [[TerrorHero surprisingly.]] His MO involves terrorizing criminals and pummeling them within an inch of their lives, but he (generally) refuses to kill, and he does indeed have a very strong belief in justice, and believes that you can't fix the system if you yourself are hindering it. Of course, this all depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a borderline outlaw who doesn't give a damn about the law, and will even beat the hell out of petty criminals. But other times he will having varying levels of tolerance towards certain criminals. Two contrasting examples would be ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and ''[[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Noel.]]''
** Particularly notable is the example of [[YouKilledMyFather Joe Chill]]: In one occasion, Batman scared him to almost lunacy, and after revealing his secret identity to him, [[DrivenToSuicide he brought his gun to him so he would blow his own brains off]] before the other criminals would kill him in retaliation.
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** After her escape, Laura's cold detachment towards killing and torturing her enemies means she does this ''a lot'' when her friends and teammates are unwilling to do so themselves, which except when she's serving on X-Force (a whole ''team'' of X-Men like ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Franchise/{{Wolverine}} who are willing to pay evil unto evil) is pretty much all the time. Not that she doesn't [[WhatTheHellHero get called out on her methods]].
* Played with Batman, [[TerrorHero surprisingly.]] His MO involves terrorizing criminals and pummeling them within an inch of their lives, but he (generally) refuses to kill, and he does indeed have a very strong belief in justice, and believes that you can't fix the system if you yourself are hindering it. Of course, this all depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a borderline outlaw who doesn't give a damn about the law, and will even beat the hell out of petty criminals. But other times he will having varying levels of tolerance towards certain criminals. Two contrasting examples would be ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and ''[[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Noel.]]''
** Particularly notable is the example of [[YouKilledMyFather Joe Chill]]: In one occasion, Batman scared him to almost lunacy, and after revealing his secret identity to him, [[DrivenToSuicide he brought his gun to him so he would blow his own brains off]] before the other criminals would kill him in retaliation.
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* [[{{JerkAss}} Bill]] does this to [[AssholeVictim Lars]] in Chapter Three of ''Fanfic/ATriangleInTheStars'' after one too many insults. [[spoiler: [[DisproportionateRetribution Mainly by having the little cloud above his head shock his ear and then rain on the young man.]]]] [[AllLovingHero Steven]] doesn't take it well, unlike usual witness examples to AssholeVictim and [[{{Subverted}} this trope]], which surprises and confuses the demon.
* [[Fanfic/DeliverUsFromEvilSeries Mortality]] has Watson [[DeadlyDoctor coldly interrogating]] a criminal for his friend's whereabouts, most likely ''killing'' the criminal and [[NightmareFuel unremorsefully killing Smith]]. Granted, he ''did'' [[ColdBloodedTorture torture Holmes with an inch of his life]] and [[TooDumbToLive gloat over the guy while he's dying.]]

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* [[{{JerkAss}} Bill]] does this to [[AssholeVictim Lars]] in Chapter Three of ''Fanfic/ATriangleInTheStars'' after one too many insults. [[spoiler: [[DisproportionateRetribution Mainly by having the little cloud above his head shock his ear and then rain on the young man.]]]] [[AllLovingHero Steven]] doesn't take it well, unlike usual witness examples to AssholeVictim and [[{{Subverted}} [[SubvertedTrope this trope]], which surprises and confuses the demon.
* [[Fanfic/DeliverUsFromEvilSeries Mortality]] ''[[Fanfic/DeliverUsFromEvilSeries Mortality]]'' has Watson [[DeadlyDoctor coldly interrogating]] a criminal for his friend's whereabouts, most likely ''killing'' the criminal and [[NightmareFuel unremorsefully killing Smith]]. Granted, he ''did'' [[ColdBloodedTorture torture Holmes with an inch of his life]] and [[TooDumbToLive gloat over the guy while he's dying.]]



* ''FanFic/ANewChanceSeries'': Latios has no pity for Pokemon poachers and seeks to brutally punish. [[DeconstructedTrope However, this only scares the hell out of everybody]], especially [[AllLovingHero Ash]], who has no such vengeful tendencies. Pikachu eventually [[WhatTheHellHero tells him off]] when his desire for vengeance makes him forget how Ash would feel. [[spoiler: Eventually, Latios ''disobeys'' Ash and murders a Pokemon poacher behind his back. Officer Jenny, horrified by all this, decides Latios is too dangerous to be allowed to roam freely, and had one of Latios' friends not erased her memory, he would have been arrested]].

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* ''FanFic/ANewChanceSeries'': Latios has no pity for Pokemon poachers and seeks to brutally punish. [[DeconstructedTrope However, this only scares the hell out of everybody]], especially [[AllLovingHero Ash]], who has no such vengeful tendencies. Pikachu eventually [[WhatTheHellHero tells him off]] when his desire for vengeance makes him forget how Ash would feel. [[spoiler: Eventually, Latios ''disobeys'' Ash and murders a Pokemon poacher behind his back. Officer Jenny, horrified by all this, decides Latios is too dangerous to be allowed to roam freely, and had one of Latios' friends not erased her memory, he would have been arrested]]. arrested.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'': Mr. Incredible kills the villain by causing him to get sucked into his plane's engine. Granted, the villain had previously murdered a great portion of his fellow superheroes, nearly killed his family and tried to kidnap his baby son to raise as a supervillain sidekick, but it's pretty jarring that earlier, he had mocked Incredible for his inability to resort to murder. What makes it worse is that Mr. Incredible did it right in front of his [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop his whole family.]] It should be noted, however, that Mr. Incredible did not directly throw the villain into the engine. He threw a car at the plane, and the collision is what threw the villain to his death. The scene remains ambiguous on whether Mr. Incredible did it on purpose or not. Though he still tried to throw a car at Syndrome's face, so arguably it's still this trope.
** In the [[LicensedGame videogame adaptation]] it's even worse: even prior to Syndrome's StartOfDarkness, Mr. Incredible had little to no problem with '''throwing minor thugs from the roofs of scyscrapers to their doom'''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'': Mr. Incredible kills the villain by causing him to get sucked into his plane's engine. Granted, the villain had previously murdered a great portion of his fellow superheroes, nearly killed his family and tried to kidnap his baby son to raise as a supervillain sidekick, but it's pretty jarring that earlier, he had mocked Incredible for his inability to resort to murder. What makes it worse is that Mr. Incredible did it right in front of his [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop his whole family.]] It should be noted, however, that Mr. Incredible did not directly throw the villain into the engine. He threw a car at the plane, and the collision is what threw the villain to his death. The scene remains ambiguous on whether Mr. Incredible did it on purpose or not. Though he still tried to throw a car at Syndrome's face, so arguably it's still this trope.
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trope. In the [[LicensedGame videogame adaptation]] it's even worse: even prior to Syndrome's StartOfDarkness, Mr. Incredible had little to no problem with '''throwing minor thugs from the roofs of scyscrapers to their doom'''.



** played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy, [[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]].
** One example being he holds a robber down by the neck, pours mil and whipped cream into his mouth, then turns on the blender and blends his throat -making a human milkshake.

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** played Played straight with our hero, Toxie. He's one of the kindest beings you could ever meet, unless you are a villain. He has a girlfriend, eventual wife, that he is very devoted to. And he does things as big as saving lives to helping someone open a jar or cross the street. But if you're an enemy, [[GoodIsNotNice he'll kill you in a way that makes Freddy Krueger seem nice]]. \n** One example being he holds a robber down by the neck, pours mil and whipped cream into his mouth, then turns on the blender and blends his throat -making a human milkshake.



* In ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', Jake, before flushing the Pool into space, decides that Yeerks are subhuman parasites who deserve nothing but cold, frozen death: "They could've stayed home, I thought. No one had asked them to come to Earth. No more than they deserved. Aliens. Parasites. Subhuman."
** Also, Marco isn't very good at hiding the fact that he takes pleasure from killing Yeerks. In #19, he tells Cassie, "You don't make peace with parasites. You don't turn them around. You bury them."
*** It eventually subsides, though, as part of Marco's CharacterDevelopment; over the course of the series he becomes much less emotional, which makes him a more effective strategist.

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* In ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}''
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Jake, before flushing the Pool into space, decides that Yeerks are subhuman parasites who deserve nothing but cold, frozen death: "They could've stayed home, I thought. No one had asked them to come to Earth. No more than they deserved. Aliens. Parasites. Subhuman."
** Also, Marco isn't very good at hiding the fact that he takes pleasure from killing Yeerks. In #19, he tells Cassie, "You don't make peace with parasites. You don't turn them around. You bury them."
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" It eventually subsides, though, as part of Marco's CharacterDevelopment; over the course of the series he becomes much less emotional, which makes him a more effective strategist.



* In the book ''Literature/FantasticMrFox'', the eponymous hero is nearly hunted down by Mr. Boggis, Mr. Bunce, and Mr. Bean for simply providing food from his family, which is by stealing. The three men decide to use heavy equipment to further succeed in eliminating the fox and his family, not to mention half the countryside of good land (and every other animal, as well)! What does Mr. Fox do? He and his children dig and tunnel their way to each of the three men's farms and steal from them, [[Series/HogansHeroes Stalag 13-style]]... while the three nasty farmers wait around the hole where the fox is supposed to pop up at!
* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'', the Imperius and Cruciatus curses. When they're first introduced, it's stated that using these curses wins the caster a one-way ticket to Azkaban, and Barty Crouch is portrayed in a bad light for authorizing the Aurors to use the spells ''in exactly the same way the heroes eventually do''. It's just a ''little'' disconcerting to see, for example, [=McGonagall=] tossing around Imperius because she couldn't be bothered picking up two wands herself. The use is seen as somewhat morally ambiguous, and it functions as a slow buildup -- with Harry having used two of the three "Unforgivable Curses" by the climax of the book, it's reasonable to expect he'd use the last one, the Killing Curse, to finish off Voldemort. [[spoiler: He doesn't. Voldemort dies as a result of his own actions.]]

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* In the book ''Literature/FantasticMrFox'', the eponymous hero is nearly hunted down by Mr. Boggis, Mr. Bunce, and Mr. Bean for simply providing food from his family, which is by stealing. The three men decide to use heavy equipment to further succeed in eliminating the fox and his family, not to mention half the countryside of good land (and every other animal, as well)! What does Mr. Fox do? He and his children dig and tunnel their way to each of the three men's farms and steal from them, [[Series/HogansHeroes Stalag 13-style]]... while the three nasty farmers wait around the hole where the fox is supposed to pop up at!
* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
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In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'', the Imperius and Cruciatus curses. When they're first introduced, it's stated that using these curses wins the caster a one-way ticket to Azkaban, and Barty Crouch is portrayed in a bad light for authorizing the Aurors to use the spells ''in exactly the same way the heroes eventually do''. It's just a ''little'' disconcerting to see, for example, [=McGonagall=] tossing around Imperius because she couldn't be bothered picking up two wands herself. The use is seen as somewhat morally ambiguous, and it functions as a slow buildup -- with Harry having used two of the three "Unforgivable Curses" by the climax of the book, it's reasonable to expect he'd use the last one, the Killing Curse, to finish off Voldemort. [[spoiler: He doesn't. Voldemort dies as a result of his own actions.]]



* In both the book and the film adaptation of LetTheRightOneIn, a gang of teens finds out the hard way that the price of bullying a vampire's best friend is being literally torn to shreds.

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* In both the book and the film adaptation of LetTheRightOneIn, ''Literature/LetTheRightOneIn'', a gang of teens finds out the hard way that the price of bullying a vampire's best friend is being literally torn to shreds.



* Jarod on ''Series/ThePretender'' is fond of this, often putting villians in the same situation they did to someone else.
** Note that he puts them into a less lethal/physically harmful version of what they've done to one of their victims--- they just don't know it. In Jared's case, it's much more about inflicting psychological damage on them as they believe they're about to suffer the same fate of someone they've wronged before being taken in by the authorities.
* While Mr Chapel of ''Series/VengeanceUnlimited'' doesn't kill, he can completely ruin the life of some of his "victims", including two that he had branded as insane.
** Chapel often doesn't go out of his way to get people killed, it's a result of the show's formula. If people survived his scams it would quickly get around that he's not who he says he is. There are also times when he really is trying to make sure they die, though.

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* Jarod on ''Series/ThePretender'' is fond of this, often putting villians in the same situation they did to someone else.
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else. Note that he puts them into a less lethal/physically harmful version of what they've done to one of their victims--- they just don't know it. In Jared's case, it's much more about inflicting psychological damage on them as they believe they're about to suffer the same fate of someone they've wronged before being taken in by the authorities.
* While Mr Chapel of ''Series/VengeanceUnlimited'' doesn't kill, he can completely ruin the life of some of his "victims", including two that he had branded as insane.
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insane. Chapel often doesn't go out of his way to get people killed, it's a result of the show's formula. If people survived his scams it would quickly get around that he's not who he says he is. There are also times when he really is trying to make sure they die, though.



*** The Legion destroyed the NCR garrison at Searchlight by opening casks of radioactive waste being stored there, turning the soldiers into ghouls. The leader of the survivors asks the Courier to destroy the Legion slaver camp and ferry terminal at Cottonwood Cove in retaliation. If you chose to do this by dumping a truckload of radioactive barrels onto the camp, he will comment on the irony of it, even more so if [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillian you are a girl]].

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*** The Legion destroyed the NCR garrison at Searchlight by opening casks of radioactive waste being stored there, turning the soldiers into ghouls. The leader of the survivors asks the Courier to destroy the Legion slaver camp and ferry terminal at Cottonwood Cove in retaliation. If you chose to do this by dumping a truckload of radioactive barrels onto the camp, he will comment on the irony of it, even more so if [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillian [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain you are a girl]].



* {{Borderlands}} franchise is basically this: you go out, you slaughter an entire town, grab the loot. Repeat. And you are the good(-ish?) guy, but you're only ever put up against psycho bandits or amoral corporations who've both done significantly worse.
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', basically the entire plot is motivated by [[AntiHero Kerrigan]]'s desire to personally end the life of ManipulativeBastard Arcturus Mengsk for a shocking variety of crimes against her in particular and the sector in general. (Short list: he [[MoralEventHorizon fed her homeworld]] and four billion citizens to [[BugWar the zerg invasion]], [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness betrayed her]] in the same battle, leading to her [[TheCorruption being infested]], tried to kill her multiple times, tried to capture her for experimentation when she was de-infested, and executed her lover.) Even the composer can't argue with the necessity; the track for the final battle is fittingly titled "[[AssholeVictim He Had It Coming]]".

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* {{Borderlands}} franchise ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' is basically this: you go out, you slaughter an entire town, grab the loot. Repeat. And you are the good(-ish?) guy, but you're only ever put up against psycho bandits or amoral corporations who've both done significantly worse.
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', ''VideoGame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', basically the entire plot is motivated by [[AntiHero Kerrigan]]'s desire to personally end the life of ManipulativeBastard Arcturus Mengsk for a shocking variety of crimes against her in particular and the sector in general. (Short list: he [[MoralEventHorizon fed her homeworld]] and four billion citizens to [[BugWar the zerg invasion]], [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness betrayed her]] in the same battle, leading to her [[TheCorruption being infested]], tried to kill her multiple times, tried to capture her for experimentation when she was de-infested, and executed her lover.) Even the composer can't argue with the necessity; the track for the final battle is fittingly titled "[[AssholeVictim He Had It Coming]]".



** Also an example of this in the prequel ''Recap/StartOfDarkness''. [[spoiler:Since the goblin race is supposedly "Always Chaotic Evil", normally good and honest paladins burn and pillage a goblin town without a second thought]]. It's also noted that the goblins are justifiably angry because of this situation, so much so that their leader ascended to godhood after death. He is currently trying to gain the power of the Snarl (via his mortal representative Redcloak, who has some of the Dark One's power via his trademark cloak) to use it to extort the more powerful gods into giving the Goblins a lot in life above EXP fodder. My point? The Paladins raid the goblins to protect the gate and to gain strength to do that better, and the goblins raid the humans to keep from being EXP fodder for life. It's a Two-Way-Vicious-Cycle of pay evil unto evil. They each attack the other because its what the other does to them and to ensure their own survival.

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** Also an example of this in the prequel ''Recap/StartOfDarkness''. [[spoiler:Since the goblin race is supposedly "Always Chaotic Evil", normally good and honest paladins burn and pillage a goblin town without a second thought]]. thought.]] It's also noted that the goblins are justifiably angry because of this situation, so much so that their leader ascended to godhood after death. He is currently trying to gain the power of the Snarl (via his mortal representative Redcloak, who has some of the Dark One's power via his trademark cloak) to use it to extort the more powerful gods into giving the Goblins a lot in life above EXP fodder. My point? The Paladins raid the goblins to protect the gate and to gain strength to do that better, and the goblins raid the humans to keep from being EXP fodder for life. It's a Two-Way-Vicious-Cycle of pay evil unto evil. They each attack the other because its what the other does to them and to ensure their own survival.



* Jessica tries to do this to Tess in ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl'', using the "fact" that she's a whore [[spoiler: (a rumor created by Tess two years before the present time; Jessica was, in fact, a virgin)]] to seduce Tess's love interest Paulo, going on a date with him and finally [[http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c55/p11.html having sex with him in the bathroom of a dance club]]. It backfires on her though, as she gets no satisfaction out of it and in the end feels like a whore [[spoiler: - a real one.]]

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* Jessica tries to do this to Tess in ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl'', using the "fact" that she's a whore [[spoiler: (a rumor created by Tess two years before the present time; Jessica was, in fact, a virgin)]] to seduce Tess's love interest Paulo, going on a date with him and finally [[http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c55/p11.html having sex with him in the bathroom of a dance club]]. It backfires on her though, as she gets no satisfaction out of it and in the end feels like a whore [[spoiler: - a real one.]]one]].



'''Linkara:''' [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Are you high?!]]

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'''Linkara:''' [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments [[Funny/{{Kickassia}} Are you high?!]]



* ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' sometimes got a WhatTheHellHero or NotSoDifferent speech for messing with the bullies in his school with his ghost powers. This rarely lasted more than an episode.
** The first of these amounting to a B-plot aesop about judging people. The [[MonsterOfTheWeek ghost of the week]] showed up while Danny was getting his revenge on the Jock/Bully Dash, and jumps to the conclusion that ''Danny'' is the bully, irresponsibly using his powers to torment an undeserving victim. Ghost proceeds to expel Danny to a Ghost Zone area with the main plot being Danny trying to escape, while the B-plot had Possesed!Danny subtly using his powers to help and befriend Dash, who didn't act so terrible while this was going on.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' sometimes got a WhatTheHellHero or NotSoDifferent speech for messing with the bullies in his school with his ghost powers. This rarely lasted more than an episode.
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episode. The first of these amounting to a B-plot aesop about judging people. The [[MonsterOfTheWeek ghost of the week]] showed up while Danny was getting his revenge on the Jock/Bully Dash, and jumps to the conclusion that ''Danny'' is the bully, irresponsibly using his powers to torment an undeserving victim. Ghost proceeds to expel Danny to a Ghost Zone area with the main plot being Danny trying to escape, while the B-plot had Possesed!Danny subtly using his powers to help and befriend Dash, who didn't act so terrible while this was going on.



* Very much the subject of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. The villain, Red Hood, [[spoiler: who is actually Jason Todd, the 2nd Robin]] is trying to prove to Batman that his [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]] is inadequate when it comes to unrepentant villains like ComicBook/TheJoker and he can be a better crime-fighter by just murdering such criminals.
* Miss Martian in season 2 of ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' gains a disturbing habit of [[MindRape mind raping]] her opponents to gain information, leaving them catatonic. While she justifies herself with this logic, it becomes harder to defend once it's revealed [[spoiler: she tried to do something similar to her boyfriend Superboy, in order to make him forget that he had a problem with her behavior]].
** [[spoiler: And it proceeds to bite her in the ass hard in 2x10, when she lobotomizes Aqualad for killing Artemis, and in the process finds out that he is a ReverseMole who faked Artemis' death to bring her undercover with him. She mindraped one of her closest friends, and most likely doomed Artemis' cover as well. Cue HeroicBSOD.]]

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* Very much the subject of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. The villain, Red Hood, [[spoiler: who is actually Jason Todd, the 2nd Robin]] is trying to prove to Batman that his [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]] is inadequate when it comes to unrepentant villains like ComicBook/TheJoker and he can be a better crime-fighter by just murdering such criminals.
* Miss Martian in season 2 of ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' gains a disturbing habit of [[MindRape mind raping]] her opponents to gain information, leaving them catatonic. While she justifies herself with this logic, it becomes harder to defend once it's revealed [[spoiler: she tried to do something similar to her boyfriend Superboy, in order to make him forget that he had a problem with her behavior]].
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behavior. And it proceeds to bite her in the ass hard in 2x10, when she lobotomizes Aqualad for killing Artemis, and in the process finds out that he is a ReverseMole who faked Artemis' death to bring her undercover with him. She mindraped one of her closest friends, and most likely doomed Artemis' cover as well. Cue HeroicBSOD.]]HeroicBSOD]].
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' features a vampire assassin first met while she is retelling a story about how she used a man's apparent sexual attraction and desire for her to lure him in before killing him. With the context being that [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld she has the body of a ten year-old girl]].
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** [[{{sadist}} Ramsay Bolton]] [[spoiler:gets the [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown ever-loving shit beat out of him]] by [[HeroicBastard Jon Snow]] for [[RelativeButton murdering Jon's younger brother Rickon, raping his younger sister Sansa]], and for all the sheer, utter hell and torture Ramsay has inflicted. Jon only calms when he sees his sister Sansa, whose presence prompts Jon not to go too far -- for both his sake and so Sansa can provide a KarmicDeath to Ramsay, which she does by feeding Ramsay to his own dogs.]]

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** Mirri Maz Duur, having been asked by Daenerys to save her Dothraki husband Khal Drogo's life with her BloodMagic, instead performs a ritual that leaves him a SoullessShell and kills the Khal's unborn son in Daenerys' womb. Mirri is a slave to Daenerys because Khal Drogo's warriors had massacred Mirri's village for plunder and amusement, during which she herself had been raped by three of the Khal's men before she was "rescued". And his son was prophesied to be even worse; [[DarkMessiah "The Stallion That Mounts The World"]], the Khal who would spread the Dothraki's RapePillageAndBurn reign from Essos to Westeros.
-->''Mirri Maz Duur'': "He would have been the Stallion who Mounts the World. [[ScrewDestiny Now he will burn no cities. Now he will trample no nations into dust.]]"
** [[{{sadist}} Ramsay Bolton]] [[spoiler:gets the [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown ever-loving shit beat out of him]] by [[HeroicBastard Jon Snow]] for [[RelativeButton murdering Jon's younger brother Rickon, raping his younger sister Sansa]], and for all the sheer, utter hell and torture Ramsay has inflicted. Jon only calms down when he sees his sister Sansa, whose presence prompts Jon not to go too far -- for both his sake and so Sansa can provide a KarmicDeath to Ramsay, which she does by feeding Ramsay to his own dogs.]]
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* ''Anime/EighteenIf'': In his journey across the DreamLand, Haruto finds that the Witch Mana has been killing people in her dreams, [[YourMindMakesItReal which has the effect of killing them in the real world]]. Thing is, Mana's victims are the same people who killed her family ForTheEvulz and got light sentences for being minors. When he catches up to Mana, he doesn't even attempt to stop her, he even helps her kill the last man when he attempts to fight back and even expresses his intention to use the dream world as a new way to kill people. Haruto even comes to the realization that killing those people is the only way Mana will get closure for her family's death.
7th Jul '17 9:23:24 AM HasturHasturHastur
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Contrast with IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim, TheFarmerAndTheViper, and KickTheSonOfABitch (when the victim in question isn't recognized by the killer for the bad things they've done). May overlap with DisproportionateRetribution.

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Contrast with IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim, TheFarmerAndTheViper, and KickTheSonOfABitch (when the victim in question isn't recognized by the killer for the bad things they've done).done; the lines may be blurred in cases where the person inflicting harm was, at the core, just looking for someone to hurt and decided to use the victim's scumminess as an excuse to harm them). May overlap with DisproportionateRetribution.
28th Jun '17 12:19:19 PM azul120
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** When Joffrey Baratheon and Tywin Lannister are murdered in cold blood, their killers clearly cross a moral line, but their victims are such {{Jerk Ass}}es that it's hard not to cheer them on.

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** When Joffrey Baratheon and Tywin Lannister are murdered in cold blood, their killers clearly cross a moral line, but their victims are such {{Jerk Ass}}es that it's hard not to cheer them on. Particularly the latter case, whose [[{{Patricide}} murderer]], Tyrion, his own son, had [[TheDogBitesBack finally retaliated]] after [[AbusiveParents years of parental abuse]] and [[OffingTheOffspring being sentenced to an execution by him]] from which he had just escaped.
21st Jun '17 12:24:56 PM ironballs16
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** Downplayed. When Robin Arryn throws a fit and destroys Sansa's snow replica of Winterfell, she slaps him so hard she knocks him to the ground. Although Sansa might have been the one who escalated the altercation to begin with, Littlefinger blithely remarks afterward that Robin had it coming his entire life.

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** Downplayed. When Robin Arryn throws a fit and destroys Sansa's snow replica of Winterfell, she slaps him so hard she knocks him to the ground. Although Sansa might have been the one who escalated the altercation to begin with, Littlefinger blithely remarks afterward [[SpoiledBrat that Robin had it coming his entire life.life]].
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