History Main / PayEvilUntoEvil

25th Apr '17 11:33:49 AM gb00393
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Brienne does this, further evidencing the darker take on her character in comparison to that in the books, in which she had never killed a man before. She seems to have no issue doing this when a trio of rapist Stark soldiers confront her and Jaime on the way to King's Landing, absolutely wrecking two of them before killing the ringleader by ''driving her sword through his crotch'', making a point of killing him as slowly and painfully as possible.
--> '''Brienne:''' Two quick deaths. ''(castration)''
21st Apr '17 5:11:14 PM StarSword
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'', many of the Renegade options the player can take involve Shepard, the main character, being a total bastard to other bastards. Several times, people are [[spoiler:outright shot in the head or otherwise have their lives ruined]], though they are usually very bad people to begin with. Or [[RunningGag very annoying reporters]].
** In ''2'', this is how Garrus operated during his career on Omega. While he at least took pains to prevent civilian casualties, it's telling that most of his Shadow Broker dossier lists particularly [[DeathByIrony ironic]] kills of assorted gang leaders, drug dealers, gunrunners and serial killers.

to:

* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'', many ''Franchise/MassEffect'':
** Many
of the Renegade options the player can take involve Shepard, the main character, character of the first trilogy, being a total bastard to other bastards. Several times, people are [[spoiler:outright shot in the head or otherwise have their lives ruined]], though they are usually very bad people to begin with. Or [[RunningGag very annoying reporters]].
** In ''2'', this ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'':
*** This
is how Garrus operated during his career on Omega. While he at least took pains to prevent civilian casualties, it's telling that most of his Shadow Broker dossier lists particularly [[DeathByIrony ironic]] kills of assorted gang leaders, drug dealers, gunrunners and serial killers.killers.
*** Two of your other squadmates present contrasting viewpoints on it. Mordin Solus, a black ops agent-turned-MD, comments in response to a helper criticizing him for his nonchalant killing of several gangsters that threatened his clinic on Omega with the comment, "Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps." In contrast, assassin Thane Krios is known for praying for his own soul after assassinations, and remarks to Shepard that "Removing evil from the world is not the same as creating good."
** ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda'' occasionally presents Ryder with similar options, such as a QuickTimeEvent to kill an already-disarmed kett boss mid-sentence during a cutscene. Also, after Sloane Kelly arrived on kett-occupied Kadara, she and the other Exiles butchered the kett on-planet; your first sight after docking in Kadara Port is of a kett head on a pike.
10th Apr '17 3:24:18 PM gb00393
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Arya clearly becomes a darker character every time she kills, but it's compensated for by the fact that most of them deserve it. In season 6, [[spoiler:she gets revenge on Walder Frey for his part in the brutal massacre of her mother and one of her older brothers, Robb. She kills two of Walder Frey's sons and has them baked into a pie, which she feeds to an unknowing Walder -- before Arya reveals to a horrified Walder that his sons are in the pie and she finishes him by slitting his throat.]]

to:

** After witnessing evil men getting away with committing some of the worst atrocities in the series, Arya starts taking justice into her own hands. She clearly becomes a darker character every time she kills, but it's compensated for by the fact that most of them deserve it. it.
*** She makes a start on avenging Robb's murder in "Mhysa" by flat-out wrecking a Frey camp with Sandor and personally stabbing to death the Frey soldier responsible for desecrating her brother's corpse. This marks the first time she kills a person since the first season, and her first adult kill.
*** Later, she earns two more adult kills in "Two Swords": Polliver, the Clegane footman who killed Lommy and stole her sword, and one of his men. She kills the former in the exact same way as his most prominent victim, down to repeating his words during the deed. Later, in "Mockingbird", she murders Rorge, the prisoner who'd threatened to "fuck her bloody", without a second's hesitation, once he adds himself to her list.
*** In the Season 5 finale, she finally avenges Syrio (and Sansa, unknowingly) by brutally murdering Meryn Trant, who is revealed to be a paedophile who gets off on beating little girls.
***
In season 6, [[spoiler:she gets revenge on Walder Frey for his part in the brutal massacre of her mother and one of her older brothers, Robb. She kills two of Walder Frey's sons and has them baked into a pie, which she feeds to an unknowing Walder -- before Arya reveals to a horrified Walder that his sons are in the pie and she finishes him by slitting his throat.]]
8th Apr '17 2:21:30 PM cherrychels
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** [[{{sadist}} Ramsay Bolton]] [[spoiler:gets the [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown ever-loving shit beat out of him]] by [[HeroicBastard Jon Snow]] for [[RelativeButton murdering Jon's younger brother Rickon, raping his younger sister Sansa]], and for all the sheer, utter hell and torture Ramsay has inflicted. Jon only calms when he sees his sister Sansa, whose presence prompts Jon not to go too far -- for both his sake and so Sansa can provide a KarmicDeath to Ramsay, which she does by feeding Ramsay to his own dogs.]]
** Arya clearly becomes a darker character every time she kills, but it's compensated for by the fact that most of them deserve it. In season 6, [[spoiler:she gets revenge on Walder Frey for his part in the brutal massacre of her mother and one of her older brothers, Robb. She kills two of Walder Frey's sons and has them baked into a pie, which she feeds to an unknowing Walder -- before Arya reveals to a horrified Walder that his sons are in the pie and she finishes him by slitting his throat.]]
** When Joffrey Baratheon and Tywin Lannister are murdered in cold blood, their killers clearly cross a moral line, but their victims are such {{Jerk Ass}}es that it's hard not to cheer them on.
** Downplayed. When Robin Arryn throws a fit and destroys Sansa's snow replica of Winterfell, she slaps him so hard she knocks him to the ground. Although Sansa might have been the one who escalated the altercation to begin with, Littlefinger blithely remarks afterward that Robin had it coming his entire life.
3rd Apr '17 7:31:47 AM Insivel
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Demon hunters certainly fall into this trope as well. They fight demons by using their own demonic magic against them, even to the point of having physical traits like horns. The difference between the demons and the demon hunters is that the former wouldn't stop at nothing to destroy all creation, while the latter would sacrifice everything to save it, even if it means to be tormented by the demons they hate for eternity while borrowing their power to slay their kin.

to:

** Demon hunters certainly fall into this trope as well. They fight demons by using their own demonic magic against them, even to the point of having physical traits like horns. The difference between the demons and the demon hunters is that the former wouldn't stop at nothing to destroy all creation, while the latter would sacrifice everything to save it, even if it means to be [[MindRape tormented by the demons they hate for eternity eternity]] while borrowing their power to slay their kin.other demons.
3rd Apr '17 7:29:58 AM Insivel
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Demon hunters certainly fall into this trope as well. They fight demons by using their own demonic magic against them, even to the point of having physical traits like horns.

to:

** Demon hunters certainly fall into this trope as well. They fight demons by using their own demonic magic against them, even to the point of having physical traits like horns. The difference between the demons and the demon hunters is that the former wouldn't stop at nothing to destroy all creation, while the latter would sacrifice everything to save it, even if it means to be tormented by the demons they hate for eternity while borrowing their power to slay their kin.
1st Apr '17 9:13:54 PM DustSnitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** And strongly condemned by the New Testament. As the {{Trope Namer|s}} for TurnTheOtherCheek, in Literature/TheFourGospels {{Jesus}} preaches nonviolence, even remonstrating Peter for attacking a Roman soldier to ''defend'' Him.

to:

** And strongly condemned by the New Testament. As the {{Trope Namer|s}} for TurnTheOtherCheek, in Literature/TheFourGospels {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} preaches nonviolence, even remonstrating Peter for attacking a Roman soldier to ''defend'' Him.
22nd Mar '17 10:43:08 PM CerotechOmega
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'', Trish has this adoptive father named Hawthorne that she looks out for. At one point, the bandit queen Shauna kidnaps him, and when Trish finds them again, Shauna proceeds to grill him on his past before slitting his throat in full view of Trish. While one can't help to feel for the girl, it'd be easier to sympathize with Hawthorne if [[spoiler:Shauna hadn't revealed via said interrogation that he was a serial rapist of the worst kind, of whom Trish would have been the latest victim. And this is in the Normal path; she's too late to stop the rape in the Demon Path]].
18th Mar '17 6:50:17 PM Akaihiryuu
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Warlocks also fall into this. They wield corrupting fel magic, but they wield it in defense of Azeroth (especially against demons and the Burning Legion) and try their best to not become corrupted by it.
17th Mar '17 12:41:37 AM infernape612
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Granted the Guy ''is'' AxCrazy, so we're not supposed to think it's okay.

to:

** Granted the Guy guy ''is'' AxCrazy, so we're not supposed to think it's okay.
This list shows the last 10 events of 866. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.PayEvilUntoEvil