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6th Jul '17 11:54:15 AM Theriocephalus
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** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' deconstructed this concept with the Targaryens. They are what would happen if (relatively) normal people acted like brash, arrogant High Elves.
*** Also present are the Children of the Forest, who, while certainly ''quite'' different in appearance (they're only slightly larger than children, have catlike eyes and skin patterned like deers' coats, and their hands have four fingers tipped with black claws), otherwise fit neatly into the Wood Elf mold.
*** Although in the show are more akin to zombies, in the books the White Walkers look more closely to High Elves; mysterious mystical light-skinned creatures with long white hair. Their females can even seduce men.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' This concept is deconstructed this concept with the Targaryens. They are what would happen if (relatively) normal people acted like brash, arrogant High Elves.
*** ** Also present are the Children of the Forest, who, while certainly ''quite'' different in appearance (they're only slightly larger than children, have catlike eyes and skin patterned like deers' coats, and their hands have four fingers tipped with black claws), otherwise fit neatly into the Wood Elf mold.
*** ** Although in the show are they're more akin to zombies, in the books the White Walkers look more closely are closer to the High Elves; mysterious mystical light-skinned creatures with long white hair. Their females can even seduce men.
6th Jul '17 11:27:51 AM Theriocephalus
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* '''High Elves:''' These guys are better than you, and they won't hesitate to remind you at every opportunity. They're usually physically superior in "every way that counts" which is to say, they don't count others' strengths as worthwhile. They'll frequently be part of an ancient civilization/kingdom that has been in MedievalStasis since before human speech. These guys usually favor whites, reds, blues, and imperial purples and wear super-sumptuous clothes along with delicate jewelry that make fangirls {{squee}} with envy. [[RoyalRapier Rapiers]], [[ArcherArchetype bows]], and [[BladeOnAStick spears]] are favored weapons for their ground forces, with the option of sleek scimitars in settings where rapiers are too modern. Unlike their more down-to-earth compatriots, they'll usually live in a ShiningCity that will [[SuperiorSpecies invariably be cleaner than human cities]]. Usually ''very'' proficient with magic and producing magical items and artifacts. If these guys have any weakness at all, (aside from their blind narcissism, of course) it will usually be that they are [[FragileSpeedster slimmer and more delicate physically]] than both the other types of elves and humans and dwarves, which means that while they're nearly always better magicians than humans, they are not always going to win a physical fight. Usually the most insufferably arrogant of elves, though they may not necessarily be openly antagonistic.

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* '''High Elves:''' These guys are better than you, and they won't hesitate to remind you at every opportunity. They're usually physically superior in "every way that counts" counts", which is to say, say they don't count others' strengths as worthwhile. They'll frequently be part of an ancient civilization/kingdom that has been in MedievalStasis since before human speech. These guys usually favor whites, reds, blues, and imperial purples and wear super-sumptuous clothes along with delicate jewelry that make fangirls {{squee}} with envy. [[RoyalRapier Rapiers]], [[ArcherArchetype bows]], and [[BladeOnAStick spears]] are favored weapons for their ground forces, with the option of sleek scimitars in settings where rapiers are too modern. Unlike their more down-to-earth compatriots, they'll usually live in a ShiningCity that will [[SuperiorSpecies invariably be cleaner than human cities]]. Usually ''very'' proficient with magic and producing magical items and artifacts. If these guys have any weakness at all, (aside from their blind narcissism, of course) it will usually be that they are [[FragileSpeedster slimmer and more delicate physically]] than both the other types of elves and humans and dwarves, which means that while they're nearly always better magicians than humans, they are not always going to win a physical fight. Usually the most insufferably arrogant of elves, though they may not necessarily be openly antagonistic.



* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy A strong warrior tradition]], albeit one that is usually [[WarriorPoet more refined than most]]. Perhaps because of the nature of the settings they exist in, pacifist elves are surprisingly rare. On an individual level, Elves tend to wield elegant, graceful weapons, such as scimitars, rapiers, katanas, daggers, spears, and especially longbows. Elves who wield large crushing weapons such as battleaxes and warhammers are incredibly rare, and most Elves wouldn't even touch a crossbow or a gun. Elves are also experts with magic - if you have a MagicKnight or a full-on mage in your party, they're likely to be an Elf. On a wider scale, expect an Elf fighting force to utilise mobility and stealth over brute force, with lots of magical backup.

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* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy A strong warrior tradition]], albeit one that is usually [[WarriorPoet more refined than most]]. Perhaps because of the nature of the settings they exist in, pacifist elves are surprisingly rare. On an individual level, Elves tend to wield elegant, graceful weapons, such as scimitars, rapiers, katanas, daggers, spears, and especially longbows. Elves who wield large crushing weapons such as battleaxes and warhammers are incredibly rare, and most Elves wouldn't even touch a crossbow or a gun. Elves are also experts with magic - -- if you have a MagicKnight or a full-on mage in your party, they're likely to be an Elf. On a wider scale, expect an Elf fighting force to utilise mobility and stealth over brute force, with lots of magical backup.



* Averted in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached''. Elves are just another race of humans, not a separate species. The only “elfy” traits they share with elves from other works are that they have fine features and pointy ears. And in Ketafa they're second-class citizens and treated like crap.

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* ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'':
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Averted with elves in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached''. Elves are general. They're just another race of humans, not a separate species. The only “elfy” traits they share with elves from other works are that they have fine features and pointy ears. And in Ketafa they're second-class citizens and treated like crap.



* Averted in the ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fan fic ''{{Fanfic/Aska}}''. The entire elf race are now 'solicitors, attorneys and the occasional insurance salesman'. The elf character Motor-Oil is a bumbling wreck after losing his girlfriend. Also, his name is ''Motor-Oil''.

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* Averted in the ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fan fic ''{{Fanfic/Aska}}''. The entire elf race are now 'solicitors, "solicitors, attorneys and the occasional insurance salesman'.salesman". The elf character Motor-Oil is a bumbling wreck after losing his girlfriend. Also, his name is ''Motor-Oil''.



** The Pronghorn, whose horns are functionally similar to those of unicorns. The first pronghorn introduced, Niles Nigellus, is a polite, smooth-talking and well-traveled charmer who offers Dash the chance to realize one of her greatest dreams by guiding her through The Dreaming.

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** The Pronghorn, whose horns are functionally similar to those of unicorns. The first pronghorn introduced, Niles Nigellus, is a polite, smooth-talking and well-traveled charmer who offers Dash the chance to realize one of her greatest dreams dreams, learning how to master lighting, by guiding her through The the Dreaming.
27th Jun '17 9:45:09 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the elves are known as the races of Mer. All descend from a {{Precursor}} race known as the Aldmer (Old or First Elves) who are said to have come to Tamriel from the [[{{Atlantis}} lost continent of Aldmeris]]. The Aldmer split apart into distinct sub-races during the earliest eras of Tamriellic history, typically over [[OurGodsAreDifferent religious differences]]. All of the races of Mer are generally humanoid in shape and appearance, but all [[DemiHuman have traits outside the normal range for humans]], including [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation unusual skin tones]], PointyEars, mildly elongated skulls, and angular facial features. Most are known to be LongLived in comparison to the races of Men, with average lifespans lasting several centuries and extreme examples [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld lasting 1000 years or more]] (though most of these examples [[WizardsLiveLonger have used magic to extend their lives]]). They also have an ImmortalProcreationClause, typically producing fewer offspring than the races of Men, and it is implied that there is a maximum number of children that any Mer woman can bear, with few having more than three. Each race of Mer believes themselves to be a SuperiorSpecies to the other races of Mer, and ''ALL'' believe themselves [[FeelingOppressedByTheirExistence to be superior to the races of Men]], leading to much CulturalPosturing. Additionally, each race of Mer has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality traits, beliefs, and practices which come across as very alien to a human observer]]. Ranges from being played completely straight to Downplayed, but is extant within almost every race. Below is a summary of each race of Mer arranged alphabetically, and additional details can be found in the "Races of Mer" section on the [[TheElderScrolls/TheElderScrollsRaceTropes The Elder Scrolls Race Tropes]] page.

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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the elves are known as the races of Mer. All descend from a {{Precursor}} race known as the Aldmer (Old or First Elves) who are said to have come to Tamriel from the [[{{Atlantis}} lost continent of Aldmeris]]. The Aldmer split apart into distinct sub-races during the earliest eras of Tamriellic history, typically over [[OurGodsAreDifferent religious differences]]. All of the races of Mer are generally humanoid in shape and appearance, but all [[DemiHuman have traits outside the normal range for humans]], including [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation unusual skin tones]], PointyEars, mildly elongated skulls, and angular facial features. Most are known to be LongLived in comparison to the races of Men, with average lifespans lasting several centuries and extreme examples [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld lasting 1000 years or more]] (though most of these examples [[WizardsLiveLonger have used magic to extend their lives]]). They also have an ImmortalProcreationClause, typically producing fewer offspring than the races of Men, and it is implied that there is a maximum number of children that any Mer woman can bear, with few having more than three. Each race of Mer believes themselves to be a SuperiorSpecies to the other races of Mer, and ''ALL'' believe themselves [[FeelingOppressedByTheirExistence to be superior to the races of Men]], leading to much CulturalPosturing. Additionally, each race of Mer has [[BlueAndOrangeMorality traits, beliefs, and practices which come across as very alien to a human observer]]. Ranges from being played completely straight to Downplayed, but is extant within almost every race. Below is a summary of each race of Mer arranged alphabetically, and additional details can be found in the "Races of Mer" section on the [[TheElderScrolls/TheElderScrollsRaceTropes [[Characters/TheElderScrollsRaces The Elder Scrolls Race Tropes]] page.
8th Jun '17 10:00:20 PM nombretomado
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* The Takisians of Creator/GeorgeRRMartin's ''WildCards'' are short, long-lived, pretty, flamboyant, posturing, smug, and have "magic" in the form of PsychicPowers and OrganicTechnology. Their warships even look like colorful seashells. SpaceElves in all but name.

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* The Takisians of Creator/GeorgeRRMartin's ''WildCards'' ''Literature/WildCards'' are short, long-lived, pretty, flamboyant, posturing, smug, and have "magic" in the form of PsychicPowers and OrganicTechnology. Their warships even look like colorful seashells. SpaceElves in all but name.
4th Jun '17 3:58:36 PM Archimedes
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* Averted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Vaarsuvius spends a fair amount of time being arrogant and lecturing people in as polysyllabic a way as s/he can think of, but genuinely seems to care for people, clearly isn't always right, and [[spoiler: recently got suckered in a big way by a trio of fiends]]. Furthermore, V's arrogance isn't from hir elvenhood, but more of being a very skilled wizard (the strip does oftne poke fun at how arcane spellcasters view themselves as invincable for their knowledge, such as Roy's father.) The only thing that comes close to this trope was V's mention about how [[AmbiguousGender hir]] noble elven metabolism is so efficient that V only has so concern hirself with such base needs as going to the bathroom every few weeks. Which frustrated anyone who wanted to know what sex V was when they arrived at a bathroom.

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* Averted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Vaarsuvius spends a fair amount of time being arrogant and lecturing people in as polysyllabic a way as s/he can think of, but genuinely seems to care for people, clearly isn't always right, and [[spoiler: recently got suckered in a big way by a trio of fiends]]. Furthermore, V's arrogance isn't from hir elvenhood, but more of being a very skilled wizard (the strip does oftne often poke fun at how arcane spellcasters view themselves as invincable invincible for their knowledge, such as Roy's father.) The only thing that comes close to this trope was V's mention about how [[AmbiguousGender hir]] noble elven metabolism is so efficient that V only has so concern hirself with such base needs as going to the bathroom every few weeks. Which frustrated anyone who wanted to know what sex V was when they arrived at a bathroom.
4th Jun '17 12:09:13 PM Morgenthaler
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** The Death Elves, who are essentially ElfBlood's equivalents to dwarves. Except they're seven-foot tall grey-skinned nomad-descended brutes who can't use magic.

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** The Death Elves, who are essentially ElfBlood's Elf Blood's equivalents to dwarves. Except they're seven-foot tall grey-skinned nomad-descended brutes who can't use magic.
4th Jun '17 7:04:58 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* If we ever get good human genetic engineering, elves might be a realistic outcome. How would lots of people engineer their children, or themselves? Tall, pretty, thin, smart, and as long-lived as we can manage. The main aesthetic competition might be from designs with exaggerated sexual characteristics: manly Conan men and busty women vs. the {{Bishonen}} androgyny of most elves.

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* If we ever get good human genetic engineering, elves might be a realistic outcome. How would lots of people [[DesignerBabies engineer their children, children]], or themselves? Tall, pretty, thin, smart, and as long-lived as we can manage. The main aesthetic competition might be from designs with exaggerated sexual characteristics: manly Conan men and busty women vs. the {{Bishonen}} androgyny of most elves.
3rd Jun '17 9:09:52 AM Piterpicher
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* The ''{{VideoGame/Suikoden}}'' series arguably subverts this trope, as their elves have the arrogant, condescending attitude turned up to eleven, but never really do anything to back up their claims of superiority. Indeed, most of the elven characters available for recruitment are rather sub-par in comparison to the human characters, and with the better ones there's no compelling reason to use them over another character. In ''SuikodenI'', this is shown in the storyline, as well, when the elves' arrogant assumption of superiority and refusal to accept outside help results in their getting wiped out by the Scarlet Moon forces.

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* The ''{{VideoGame/Suikoden}}'' series arguably subverts this trope, as their elves have the arrogant, condescending attitude turned up to eleven, but never really do anything to back up their claims of superiority. Indeed, most of the elven characters available for recruitment are rather sub-par in comparison to the human characters, and with the better ones there's no compelling reason to use them over another character. In ''SuikodenI'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenI'', this is shown in the storyline, as well, when the elves' arrogant assumption of superiority and refusal to accept outside help results in their getting wiped out by the Scarlet Moon forces.
31st May '17 3:43:43 PM saintleki
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* While it's not clear cut, in ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' the [[PhysicalGod bearers of the lord souls]] are basically elves in contrast to the humans.

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* While it's not clear cut, in ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' the [[PhysicalGod bearers of the lord souls]] are basically fill the same role that elves frequently do in contrast to the humans.other fantasy works.


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** The only lord souls bearers who don't seem reminiscent of elves are [[TheGrimReaper Gravelord Nito]] and [[TheUnseen The Furtive Pygmy]]. The former being a giant skeleton who stays in [[BeneathTheEarth the Tomb of the Giants]] and oversees death and the latter [[FromNobodyToNightmare is only mentioned in the opening cutscene of the first game but whose actions have long reaching effects in the games]] but otherwise both don't get enough focus to tell how much they relate to depictions of elves.
31st May '17 3:30:07 PM saintleki
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* While it's not clear cut, in "VideoGame/DarkSouls" the [[PhysicalGod bearers of the lord souls]] are basically elves in contrast to the humans.

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* While it's not clear cut, in "VideoGame/DarkSouls" ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' the [[PhysicalGod bearers of the lord souls]] are basically elves in contrast to the humans.
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