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21st May '17 6:35:20 AM bwburke94
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* Dr. Merlot, BigBad of ''VideoGame/RWBYGrimmEclipse, who creates mutated Grimm and sends them after the main characters, but is never seen in person.

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* Dr. Merlot, BigBad of ''VideoGame/RWBYGrimmEclipse, ''VideoGame/RWBYGrimmEclipse'', who creates mutated Grimm and sends them after the main characters, but is never seen in person.
14th May '17 10:26:28 AM nombretomado
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* [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression The United Earth Directorate]] in ''Franchise/StarCraft''. Canonically, they are a ruthless dictatorship who abolished cultural ethnicity and religion on Earth, banished 400 millions human in space for being considered "undesirable" and came to the Koprulu Sector with the intention of enslaving or eradicating the Zerg and Protoss. Unfortunately, [[AllThereInTheManual very little of this is actually shown in-game]], and all we get to see in their ''Brood War'' campaign is them trying to enslave the Zerg (who at this point were AlwaysChaoticEvil) and [[KickTheSonOfABitch beating the crap out of Arcturus Mengsk, one of the most reviled characters in the franchise]]. This has caused plenty of fans to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for them]], and not understand why the heroic characters chose to form an EnemyMine with the much more ObviouslyEvil [[DarkActionGirl Sarah Kerrigan]] to fight them.

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* [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression The United Earth Directorate]] in ''Franchise/StarCraft''.''VideoGame/StarCraft''. Canonically, they are a ruthless dictatorship who abolished cultural ethnicity and religion on Earth, banished 400 millions human in space for being considered "undesirable" and came to the Koprulu Sector with the intention of enslaving or eradicating the Zerg and Protoss. Unfortunately, [[AllThereInTheManual very little of this is actually shown in-game]], and all we get to see in their ''Brood War'' campaign is them trying to enslave the Zerg (who at this point were AlwaysChaoticEvil) and [[KickTheSonOfABitch beating the crap out of Arcturus Mengsk, one of the most reviled characters in the franchise]]. This has caused plenty of fans to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for them]], and not understand why the heroic characters chose to form an EnemyMine with the much more ObviouslyEvil [[DarkActionGirl Sarah Kerrigan]] to fight them.
10th May '17 2:46:26 PM MiinU
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Compare and contrast GoryDiscretionShot, which may overlap with this, and DesignatedVillain, where the "villain" doesn't actually do anything truly bad, either on-screen or off.

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Compare and contrast GoryDiscretionShot, GoryDiscretionShot and RapeDiscretionShot, which may overlap with this, and DesignatedVillain, where the "villain" doesn't actually do anything truly bad, either on-screen or off.
26th Apr '17 3:50:41 AM Baeraad555
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** The same with [[TheChessmaster Lord Roose Bolton]] and [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]], who like to flay the skin off their captives' fingers until the captives beg for the fingers to be chopped off due to the pain. Poor [[spoiler:Theon Greyjoy]], while not the nicest person, gets this treatment. For obvious reasons, this isn't directly shown to the reader.

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** The same with [[TheChessmaster Lord Roose Bolton]] and [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]], who like to flay the skin off their captives' fingers until the captives beg for the fingers to be chopped off due to the pain. Poor [[spoiler:Theon Greyjoy]], while not the nicest person, gets this treatment. For obvious reasons, this isn't directly shown to the reader. It's hinted that Roose has done a number of things that we never even hear about, as he complains that Ramsay has allowed his evil deeds to be well-known to the point that everyone is talking about them - thus harming House Bolton's reputation - whereas "no one ever talked about [[VillainWithGoodPublicity me.]]"
6th Apr '17 7:32:30 PM nombretomado
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* Likewise, it's never revealed in PlanescapeTorment what the first incarnation of The Nameless One did that's so horrible that not even an entire lifetime's worth of atonement could make up for it, hence his search for immortality.

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* Likewise, it's never revealed in PlanescapeTorment ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' what the first incarnation of The Nameless One did that's so horrible that not even an entire lifetime's worth of atonement could make up for it, hence his search for immortality.
18th Mar '17 6:01:31 PM nombretomado
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* Few of the {{Neopets}} villains are actually seen doing anything bad. Deliberately invoked for Jhudora, who is free to do as she pleases because she's never been caught at anything.
* For the first two years of ''TheQuestportChronicles'', the villains never appear until the final showdown, and the heroes learn of their misdeeds second-hand.

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* Few of the {{Neopets}} {{Website/Neopets}} villains are actually seen doing anything bad. Deliberately invoked for Jhudora, who is free to do as she pleases because she's never been caught at anything.
* For the first two years of ''TheQuestportChronicles'', ''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles'', the villains never appear until the final showdown, and the heroes learn of their misdeeds second-hand.
1st Feb '17 11:18:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/TheChroniclesOfRiddick'': The Lord Marshal's extermination of the Furyans to try to cheat the prophecy that Aereon gave him, which is only alluded to in the theatrical cut. Averted in the extended cut, which actually shows him committing these massacres.
14th Jan '17 2:44:18 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': Not one of the villain protagonists does anything really evil in the story, thus allowing us to sympathize with them. Anything like that is only mentioned as part of their past (for instance Sam's apparently assassinated dozens of people).
31st Aug '16 9:55:21 AM Silverblade2
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* This happens a lot in video games, since the hero is usually the PlayerCharacter, we don't see a whole lot of the villain's actual villainy--though we will usually see the fallout of such--unless either the heroes are there to witness it, or the game opts to show a cutscene.
30th Jul '16 11:19:47 AM Silverblade2
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* In [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Professor Moriarty]]'s first appearance, we never actually read about anything he did; he just "has his hands" in villainy. This was remedied in the later ''The Valley of Fear''. Granted, his villainy is still technically offscreen, but it's one hell of a punch in the gut all the same.

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* In [[Literature/SherlockHolmes ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'', in Professor Moriarty]]'s Moriarty's first appearance, we never actually read about anything he did; he just "has his hands" in villainy. This was remedied in the later ''The Valley of Fear''. Granted, his villainy is still technically offscreen, but it's one hell of a punch in the gut all the same.



* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', whilst Gregor "The Mountain that Rides" Clegane is one of the cruelest villains in the series, the reader only hears about the great majority of his deeds from other characters, rather than witnessing them directly (though there are often enough details included and enough reason to believe the various narrators to be reliable that it still gets the effect across, [[TropesAreNotBad showing that this trope is not inherently flawed]]).

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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', whilst ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'',
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Gregor "The Mountain that Rides" Clegane is one of the cruelest villains in the series, the reader only hears about the great majority of his deeds from other characters, rather than witnessing them directly (though there are often enough details included and enough reason to believe the various narrators to be reliable that it still gets the effect across, [[TropesAreNotBad showing that this trope is not inherently flawed]]).
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