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7th May '16 11:16:28 AM sorako
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* GenderFlipped in ''Manga/FruitsBasket'' with Tohru Honda. Her love for her mother Kyouko reached near-worshipful levels, but she resents her father Katsuya, blaming him for her mother's near-suicidal depression after [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler his death]], even when she realises this isn't exactly his fault. Also present with Akito, [[spoiler:who loved her father Akira but hated her mother Ren]], although it's partly her EvilMatriarch Ren's fault for taking certain precautions against an Oedipus Complex ''before Akito was even born''.

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GenderFlipped in ''Manga/FruitsBasket'' with Tohru Honda. Her love for her mother Kyouko reached near-worshipful levels, but she resents her father Katsuya, blaming him for her mother's near-suicidal depression after [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler his death]], even when she realises this isn't exactly his fault. fault.
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Also present with Akito, [[spoiler:who loved her father Akira but hated her mother Ren]], although it's partly her EvilMatriarch Ren's fault for taking certain precautions against an Oedipus Complex ''before Akito was even born''.
3rd May '16 5:43:55 AM YasminPerry
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*** The actual movie could be considered this if you look too deeply into it, as ''WebOriginal/{{Cracked}}'' did.
27th Apr '16 10:18:39 PM Eievie
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Compare WellDoneSonGuy--who actually ''wants'' his father's ''approval''--and CallingTheOldManOut--when someone calls his dad out for his transgressions, but doesn't supplant him. If the supplanting takes the form of murder, it's {{Patricide}}. See also ArchnemesisDad, which makes the father figures into outright villains while leaving out the Freudian implications. If there's an explicitly sexual relationship, see ParentalIncest. If there's a partner who's ''like'' their parent, see LikeParentLikeSpouse. And if there's incestous subtext ''without'' wanting to supplant anyone, then it's just IncestSubtext.

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Compare WellDoneSonGuy--who actually ''wants'' his father's ''approval''--and CallingTheOldManOut--when someone calls his dad out for his transgressions, but doesn't supplant him. If the supplanting takes the form of murder, it's {{Patricide}}. See also ArchnemesisDad, which makes the father figures into outright villains while leaving out the Freudian implications. If there's an explicitly sexual relationship, see ParentalIncest. If there's a partner who's ''like'' their parent, see LikeParentLikeSpouse. And if there's incestous incestuous subtext ''without'' wanting to supplant anyone, then it's just IncestSubtext.



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19th Apr '16 10:02:11 PM sorako
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19th Apr '16 9:50:19 PM sorako
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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father (even if he doesn't know his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.

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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is is) [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]]]…) Hojo]]…]] Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.
19th Apr '16 9:47:38 PM sorako
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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.

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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, father (even if he doesn't know who his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.



* In ''[[VideoGame/FatalFury Garou: Mark of the Wolves]]'', Rock Howard is pretty much ''defined'' by his hate of his DisappearedDad, Geese.
* Basically deconstructed as Raziel's entire character arc in ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain''. His entire motivation initially seems to be to exact revenge on his father Kain after an apparently very Oedipal preventive attempted infanticide. However, [[spoiler: it turns out that the entire chain of events was set into motion by Kain himself as a very complex GambitRoulette involving TimeTravel to induce a ScrewDestiny to actually, in the end, save Nosgoth from corruption and Raziel himself from becoming a soul attached to a sword, meaning that Kain more or less killed Raziel [[MercyKill out of love]] to prevent him from suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.]]



* Basically deconstructed as Raziel's entire character arc in ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain''. His entire motivation initially seems to be to exact revenge on his father Kain after an apparently very Oedipal preventive attempted infanticide. However, [[spoiler: it turns out that the entire chain of events was set into motion by Kain himself as a very complex GambitRoulette involving TimeTravel to induce a ScrewDestiny to actually, in the end, save Nosgoth from corruption and Raziel himself from becoming a soul attached to a sword, meaning that Kain more or less killed Raziel [[MercyKill out of love]] to prevent him from suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.]]
* In ''[[VideoGame/FatalFury Garou: Mark of the Wolves]]'', Rock Howard is pretty much ''defined'' by his hate of his DisappearedDad, Geese.
19th Apr '16 9:44:34 PM sorako
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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.

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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]…) Hojo]]]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.
19th Apr '16 9:37:21 PM sorako
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' has ''tons'' of this. Tidus, TheHero, hates his father, [[JerkAss Jecht]], with a passion. Not only has his entire blitzball career played out in the shadow of his famous father, as a child he was also constantly competing with him for the mother's attention. The fact that his father was basically an insensitive, alcoholic bastard might also have had something to do with it, though... and of course, [[spoiler: Tidus ends up killing his father in the semi-final boss-fight--in the very best Oedipal tradition.]] Compounding the Freudian subtext is one of the game's primary antagonists, [[CorruptChurch Maester Seymour Guado]]. To sum up: He loved his mother deeply, but she out of misguided love for him felt that the only way for [[HalfHumanHybrid him to be accepted in a xenophobic world]] would be for him to become a [[HeroicSacrifice High]] [[SenselessSacrifice Summoner]] and use [[HeroicSacrifice her]] as his [[{{Metamorphosis}} Final]] [[CosmicHorror Aeon]]. The end result was Mommy dearest becoming [[http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/14008/images/ffx_s_anima.jpg this]]. As for his father, Jyscal, Seymour kills him before the game even starts to [[KlingonPromotion gain his position]] as Maester (think fantasy!Cardinal) as part of a long and convoluted EvilPlan to MercyKill [[OmnicidalManiac the]] [[DarkMessiah entire]] [[NietzscheWannabe planet]], and presumably as revenge for his father exiling him. In addition to the practical gains made by removing Jyscal, the backstory hints at how Jyscal was not a loving parent--nor even a presence in his life, really, as he spent his childhood in seclusion with his mother--hence Seymour grew to resent and hate him. And none of this is going into [[WhiteMagicianGirl Yuna's]]… relationship with ''her'' father. Truly, the ''issues'' of the characters in this ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' iteration are staggering.
** Of course, by the end Tidus' mother is long since dead and he [[spoiler: ''does'' manage to reconcile with his father, who in turn genuinely repented of his actions before becoming Sin]]. It's more explicit in ''Dissidia'', where Tidus is explicit about his feelings. [[spoiler: "I'd always thought I'd prefer if you weren't there, but honestly… I only became strong so you would approve of me… that's all I ever wanted."]]
** Seymour's ploy to marry Yuna could be considered along these lines. Seymour is attracted to power: the power his mother gave him as an aeon and the power of Yuna's potential. There is a bit of a physical resemblance between the two women as well. (a similar character model and the same voice actress was used for both characters)

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** Hinted at with Sephiroth of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]…) Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.
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''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' has ''tons'' of this. Tidus, TheHero, hates his father, [[JerkAss Jecht]], with a passion. Not only has his entire blitzball career played out in the shadow of his famous father, as a child he was also constantly competing with him for the mother's attention. The fact that his father was basically an insensitive, alcoholic bastard might also have had something to do with it, though... and of course, [[spoiler: Tidus ends up killing his father in the semi-final boss-fight--in the very best Oedipal tradition.]] Compounding the Freudian subtext is one of the game's primary antagonists, [[CorruptChurch Maester Seymour Guado]]. To sum up: He loved his mother deeply, but she out of misguided love for him felt that the only way for [[HalfHumanHybrid him to be accepted in a xenophobic world]] would be for him to become a [[HeroicSacrifice High]] [[SenselessSacrifice Summoner]] and use [[HeroicSacrifice her]] as his [[{{Metamorphosis}} Final]] [[CosmicHorror Aeon]]. The end result was Mommy dearest becoming [[http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/14008/images/ffx_s_anima.jpg this]]. As for his father, Jyscal, Seymour kills him before the game even starts to [[KlingonPromotion gain his position]] as Maester (think fantasy!Cardinal) as part of a long and convoluted EvilPlan to MercyKill [[OmnicidalManiac the]] [[DarkMessiah entire]] [[NietzscheWannabe planet]], and presumably as revenge for his father exiling him. In addition to the practical gains made by removing Jyscal, the backstory hints at how Jyscal was not a loving parent--nor even a presence in his life, really, as he spent his childhood in seclusion with his mother--hence Seymour grew to resent and hate him. And none of this is going into [[WhiteMagicianGirl Yuna's]]… relationship with ''her'' father. Truly, the ''issues'' of the characters in this ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' ''Final Fantasy'' iteration are staggering.
** Of course, by * A good part of the end Tidus' mother is long since dead and he reason why [[spoiler: ''does'' manage to reconcile with his father, who in turn genuinely repented Lord Alvis of his actions before becoming Sin]]. It's more explicit in ''Dissidia'', where Tidus Velthomer]] from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral'' is explicit about his feelings. so fucked up comes from this, since [[spoiler: "I'd always thought I'd prefer if you weren't there, but honestly… I only became strong so you would approve of me… that's all I ever wanted."]]
** Seymour's ploy to marry Yuna could be considered along these lines. Seymour is attracted to power: the power
his father Viktor was a philandering asshole who killed himself once he found out his wife Cigyun cheated on him with Kurth Prince of Grandbell, and said mother gave him as an aeon ran away in shame afterwards and never returned (She was pregnant with Kurth's child, and ultimately fell victim to DeathByChildbirth). All of this happened when Alvis was seven years old: he grew up into a conflicted MagnificentBastard with ''serious'' issues with almost every female (except for his aidé Aida and his half-brother Azel's mother) to the power point of Yuna's potential. There is ''killing'' whoever mentioned his idealised MissingMom in a bit bad light in front of a physical resemblance between the two women as well. (a similar character model and the same voice actress was used for both characters)him.]]



* Hinted at with Sephiroth of VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII but [[{{Flanderization}} completely exaggerated]] in the fandom. That said, he ''is'' obsessed with what he perceives as his "mother" and he absolutely ''hates'' his father, (even if he doesn't know who his father is) [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Professor Hojo]]…]]
** Funnily enough, he doesn't seem to pay much attention to his birth-mother (well, of the regular kind), Lucrecia, most likely not even knowing she existed.



* A good part of the reason why [[spoiler: Lord Alvis of Velthomer]] from FireEmblemJugdral is so fucked up comes from this, since [[spoiler: his father Viktor was a philandering asshole who killed himself once he found out his wife Cigyun cheated on him with Kurth Prince of Grandbell, and said mother ran away in shame afterwards and never returned (She was pregnant with Kurth's child, and ultimately fell victim to DeathByChildbirth). All of this happened when Alvis was seven years old: he grew up into a conflicted MagnificentBastard with ''serious'' issues with almost every female (except for his aidé Aida and his half-brother Azel's mother) to the point of ''killing'' whoever mentioned his idealised MissingMom in a bad light in front of him.]]
** But wait! There's more! It's pretty much all but stated in the Oosawa manga and side materials that [[spoiler: one of the reasons why he married Deirdre was because of [[ReplacementGoldfish how much she looked like Cigyun]]. (And for worse? Deirdre ''was'' the baby whose birth killed Cigyun. So yup, BrotherSisterIncest here too.)]]
*** It gets worse. That was ''planned'' by a MagnificentBastard, and [[spoiler:the child that resulted from this union turned out to be the host for a GodOfEvil. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything An "incest is bad" metaphor, much]]?]]
*** But then again, [[spoiler:the ''[[HalfIdenticalTwins other]]'' child that resulted from the union became the host for [[CrystalDragonJesus the holy god Narga]]… so, bit of a mixed message there.]]
19th Apr '16 9:30:07 PM sorako
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* VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness: Laharl has shown signs of this, claiming that he wanted to kill his father. (How much of that is just bluster is unknown). His ImpliedLoveInterest, Flonne, is also stated to be very much like his dead mother, and this trope is brought up when Thursday and '''Captain Gordon, Defender of Earth!''' find a picture of the late Queen in Laharl's bedroom in ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite''.
** Mao spends almost all of ''Disgaea 3'' training to '''kill''' his father. Subverted when it turns out that [[spoiler: his hatred for his father came from Aurum's brainwashing, he actually admired Daddy very much]].

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* VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness: ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'':
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Laharl has shown signs of this, claiming that he wanted to kill his father. (How much of that is just bluster is unknown). His ImpliedLoveInterest, Flonne, is also stated to be very much like his dead mother, and this trope is brought up when Thursday and '''Captain Gordon, Defender of Earth!''' find a picture of the late Queen in Laharl's bedroom in ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite''.
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** Mao spends almost all of ''Disgaea 3'' ''VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice'' training to '''kill''' his father. Subverted when it turns out that [[spoiler: his hatred for his father came from Aurum's brainwashing, he actually admired Daddy very much]].
19th Apr '16 9:08:38 PM sorako
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* Haré from ''''Anime/HareGuu'' has a bit of an implied crush on his mom. His father isn't likely to be on the best terms with him either. Guu even says that he has this in one episode.

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* Haré from ''''Anime/HareGuu'' ''Anime/HareGuu'' has a bit of an implied crush on his mom. His father isn't likely to be on the best terms with him either. Guu even says that he has this in one episode.
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