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16th Oct '17 7:20:13 AM AFP
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* Militaries usually teach the soldiers to have their pistols out of safety mode but also firmly set in the holsters, to quickly react against ambushes. Assault rifles, on the other hand, are nearly always in safety mode.

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* Militaries usually teach the soldiers to have their pistols out of safety mode but also firmly set in the holsters, to quickly react against ambushes. Assault rifles, on the other hand, are nearly always in safety mode.mode, with the soldiers trained to thumb the safety off in the same motion they use to aim down the sights.
12th Oct '17 9:55:44 AM xcountryguy
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** [[spoiler: Jodie]] successfully puts the gun's safety lever on during an episode about a bus-jacking. The other guy found out too late.

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** [[spoiler: Jodie]] [[spoiler:Jodie]] successfully puts the gun's safety lever on during an episode about a bus-jacking. The other guy found out too late.



-->'''Tommy''': You've never shot at a person before, have you? [[spoiler: Well, you never will.]]

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-->'''Tommy''': You've never shot at a person before, have you? [[spoiler: Well, [[spoiler:Well, you never will.]]



* Creator/DanBrown's ''Literature/DeceptionPoint'' sees a protagonist acquire a machine gun from the [[spoiler: assassins out to kill him, after incapacitating two of them, and uses it to hold the NRO's Director at gunpoint.]] The third assassin then calmly walks into his line of fire with his own weapon and states that he's out of ammunition.

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* Creator/DanBrown's ''Literature/DeceptionPoint'' sees a protagonist acquire a machine gun from the [[spoiler: assassins [[spoiler:assassins out to kill him, after incapacitating two of them, and uses it to hold the NRO's Director at gunpoint.]] The third assassin then calmly walks into his line of fire with his own weapon and states that he's out of ammunition.



* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': [[spoiler: Malcolm Merlyn]] is being held at gunpoint by [[spoiler: Thea]], who has recently found out that [[spoiler: she's his daughter]]. While she's pointing the gun at him, he helpfully points out that the safety is on. Unusually for this trope, she ''does'' eventually shoot him... [[spoiler: but he's wearing a Kevlar vest. And he's actually ''pleased'' that she shot him, because when his son Tommy had him at gunpoint the previous season he had been unable to pull the trigger.]]

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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': [[spoiler: Malcolm [[spoiler:Malcolm Merlyn]] is being held at gunpoint by [[spoiler: Thea]], [[spoiler:Thea]], who has recently found out that [[spoiler: she's [[spoiler:she's his daughter]]. While she's pointing the gun at him, he helpfully points out that the safety is on. Unusually for this trope, she ''does'' eventually shoot him... [[spoiler: but [[spoiler:but he's wearing a Kevlar vest. And he's actually ''pleased'' that she shot him, because when his son Tommy had him at gunpoint the previous season he had been unable to pull the trigger.]]



* Played with in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoChinatownWars''. A random encounter character accuses Huang of supplying him with defective guns. Huang suggests turning the safety off, so the man does [[spoiler: and accidentally kills several bystanders]].

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* Played with in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoChinatownWars''. A random encounter character accuses Huang of supplying him with defective guns. Huang suggests turning the safety off, so the man does [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and accidentally kills several bystanders]].
3rd Oct '17 8:13:36 PM SteveMB
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* In ''Literature/CaptainVorpatrilsAlliance'', Ivan Vorpatril jumps a slaver who is pointing a stunner-beam at him. Ivan later reveals that the stunner in question was his, and was keyed to his own fingerprints, meaning that no one else could make it work.

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* In ''Literature/CaptainVorpatrilsAlliance'', Ivan Vorpatril jumps a slaver who is pointing a stunner-beam at him. Ivan later reveals that the stunner in question was his, and was [[LoyalPhlebotinum keyed to his own fingerprints, fingerprints]], meaning that no one else could make it work.
15th Sep '17 3:30:19 PM Kadorhal
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* Played straight twice in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series:

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* Played straight twice in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' series:



** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'', he snatches Johnny Sasaki's gun away after almost exactly the same lines after the less experienced soldier visually inspects his [=XM8=]. Since the [=XM8=] was designed to evoke muscle memory from years of training with the M16 family, and it's almost impossible to pass even rudimentary military training without being able to tell the safety's position by feel, this succeeds in making Johnny look like an absolute moron. Snake even sardonically asks how someone like him lasted ten years in the military.
** Naked Snake does this to Ocelot twice in ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}''; the first time, his Makarov jams because he's tried to load it improperly,[[note]]He pulled the slide back to ensure there was a fresh round in the chamber before pulling the trigger; he was trying to copy a move he had heard of to show off, but let go of the slide too soon and ended up catching the previous round in the ejection port.[[/note]] and the second time, because he's used to the Makarov's eight-round magazine, he doesn't realize that his new Single Action Army runs out after six shots.

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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'', he snatches Johnny Sasaki's gun away after almost exactly the same lines after lines, and the less experienced soldier visually inspects his [=XM8=]. Since the [=XM8=] was designed to evoke muscle memory from years of training with the M16 family, and it's almost impossible to pass even rudimentary military training without being able to tell the safety's position by feel, this succeeds in making Johnny look like an absolute moron. Snake even sardonically asks how someone like him lasted ten years in the military.
military like he claimed.
** Naked Snake does this to Ocelot twice in ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}''; the first time, his Makarov jams because he's tried to load it improperly,[[note]]He pulled the slide back to ensure there was a fresh round in the chamber before pulling the trigger; he was trying to copy a move he had heard of to show off, but let go of the slide too soon and ended up catching the previous round in the ejection port.[[/note]] and the second time, because he's used to the Makarov's eight-round magazine, he doesn't realize that his new Single Action Army runs out after six shots.only six.



* Subverted in the trick ending of ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' [[spoiler:when Ange understands what Amakusa's mission really is and holds him at gunpoint with a Tokarev. The latter tries to get away with this trope, but fails since Ange knows that a Tokarev has no safety lock (besides Chinese-made versions).]]

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* Subverted in the trick ending of ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' [[spoiler:when Ange understands what Amakusa's mission really is and holds him at gunpoint with a Tokarev. The latter tries to get away with this trope, but fails since Ange knows that a Soviet Russian-made Tokarev has no safety lock (besides Chinese-made versions).lock.]]



* Somewhat averted in ''Webcomic/KiwiBlitz''. Benzine, (as Donner), pulls a gun only to be informed that the safety is still on. Without missing a beat; "Revolvers like this don't have safeties, smart guy."

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* Somewhat averted in ''Webcomic/KiwiBlitz''. Benzine, Benzine (as Donner), Donner) pulls a gun only to be informed that the safety is still on. Without missing a beat; beat, he responds "Revolvers like this don't have safeties, smart guy."



--> '''Commander''' : D'you two have any marksmanship skills?
--> '''Jared''' (holding a carbine rifle) : Phft, if you ever saw my Call of Duty stats, you'd feel embarrassed even asking that.
--> '''Commander''' : Th' safety's on. It's still on. Now yer holding it upside down. That's a good way to t' blast yer fingers off. Naw, that'll just eject the magazine.
--> '''Jared''' : Commander, I think I'm really bad at this.

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--> '''Commander''' : '''Commander''': D'you two have any marksmanship skills?
--> '''Jared''' (holding
skills?\\
'''Jared''': ''(holding
a carbine rifle) : carbine)'' Phft, if you ever saw my Call of Duty VideoGame/CallOfDuty stats, you'd feel embarrassed even asking that.
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that.\\
'''Commander''' : Th' safety's on.on. ... It's still on. ... Now yer holding holdin' it upside down. down. ... That's a good way to t' blast yer fingers off. off. ... Naw, that'll [[ItWorksBetterWithBullets that just eject the magazine.
--> '''Jared''' : Commander,
ejects th' magazine.]]\\
'''Jared''': ''(tears in his eyes)'' Commander
I think I'm really bad at this.



** It should be kept in mind, though, that a safety being ''does not'' guarantee that a firearm won't discharge if a round is chambered. Even in modern firearms, there is still a chance that even a properly functioning safety can fail.
* [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family member]] Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme's attempt to assassinate President UsefulNotes/GeraldFord reportedly failed because the .45 semiautomatic she used didn't have a round chambered; although years later she claimed that was deliberate.
* Militaries usually teach the soldiers to have their pistols out of safety mode but also firmly set in the holsters, to quickly react against ambushes. Assault rifles on the other hand are nearly always in safety mode though.
* For this precise reason ''some'' weapons carried by ''some'' law enforcement in ''some'' places are not loaded or have the safety on - if the officer is attacked and the weapon is stolen, the assailant can't use it. However, this tends to differ from situation to situation and also depends on the approach of the law enforcement agency. If they're only there to "show presence" guns will be use so rarely, they might not be ready to be used. If they're sent into a dangerous situation, they may not even have the safety on.

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** It should be kept in mind, though, that a safety being on ''does not'' guarantee that a firearm won't discharge if a round is chambered. Even in modern firearms, there is still a chance that even a properly functioning safety can fail.
* [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family member]] Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme's attempt to assassinate President UsefulNotes/GeraldFord reportedly failed because the .45 semiautomatic she used didn't have a round chambered; although years later [[IMeantToDoThat she claimed that was deliberate.
deliberate]].
* Militaries usually teach the soldiers to have their pistols out of safety mode but also firmly set in the holsters, to quickly react against ambushes. Assault rifles rifles, on the other hand hand, are nearly always in safety mode though.
mode.
* For this precise reason reason, ''some'' weapons carried by ''some'' law enforcement in ''some'' places are not loaded or have the safety on - if the officer is attacked and the weapon is stolen, the assailant can't use it. However, this tends to differ from situation to situation and also depends on the approach of the law enforcement agency. If they're only there to "show presence" presence", guns will be use used so rarely, they might not be ready to be used. If they're sent into a dangerous situation, they may not even have the safety on.
19th Aug '17 9:46:02 AM Jhonny
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* For this precise reason ''some'' weapons carried by ''some'' law enforcement in ''some'' places are not loaded or have the safety on - if the officer is attacked and the weapon is stolen, the assailant can't use it. However, this tends to differ from situation to situation and also depends on the approach of the law enforcement agency. If they're only there to "show presence" guns will be use so rarely, they might not be ready to be used. If they're sent into a dangerous situation, they may not even have the safety on.
24th Jul '17 12:47:06 AM infernape612
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* In the preview showcasing ''VideoGame/RememberMe'[='s=] Memory Manipulation mechanic, Nilin is trying to make her victim believe he killed someone. When he grabs his gun, however, the intended victim mocks him because she knows he always leaves the safety on. She's so confident about this that she tempts fate by [[spoiler:walking right up to him and grabbing the barrel of the gun]].

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* In the preview showcasing ''VideoGame/RememberMe'[='s=] ''VideoGame/RememberMe''[='s=] Memory Manipulation mechanic, Nilin is trying to make her victim believe he killed someone. When he grabs his gun, however, the intended victim mocks him because she knows he always leaves the safety on. She's so confident about this that she tempts fate by [[spoiler:walking right up to him and grabbing the barrel of the gun]].
14th Jul '17 8:57:05 AM HiddenWindshield
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* At TheClimax of the Creator/TomClancy Ryanverse novel ''Literature/PatriotGames'', after the BigBad is taken into custody, one of the Marines that joined Ryan on the would-be escape ship points out that if John had really wanted to kill the terrorist (whose head he had his gun to), he'd have had the safety off. As a part of the "Green Machine" legacy himself, Ryan would be more than familiar with the safety of the pistol he was holding, although the narration implied that Ryan had not consciously ''realized'' that he kept the safety off.

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* At TheClimax of the Creator/TomClancy Ryanverse novel ''Literature/PatriotGames'', after the BigBad is taken into custody, one of the Marines that joined Ryan on the would-be escape ship points out that if John had really wanted to kill the terrorist (whose head he had his gun to), he'd have had the safety off. As a part of the "Green Machine" legacy himself, Ryan would be more than familiar with the safety of the pistol he was holding, although the narration implied that Ryan had not consciously ''realized'' that he kept the safety off.on.
8th Mar '17 9:44:39 AM nombretomado
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* ''[[MatthewReilly Ice Station]]'' uses a type 2. Shane Schofield gives his ally James Renshaw a pistol, who then uses it to hold up [[BigBad Barnaby]]. Barnaby just laughs and pulls out his own gun because Renshaw didn't chamber a round. Renshaw decided to run before he was shot.

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* ''[[MatthewReilly Ice Station]]'' ''Literature/IceStation'' by Creator/MatthewReilly uses a type 2. Shane Schofield gives his ally James Renshaw a pistol, who then uses it to hold up [[BigBad Barnaby]]. Barnaby just laughs and pulls out his own gun because Renshaw didn't chamber a round. Renshaw decided to run before he was shot.
6th Mar '17 6:05:36 AM ClatoLawa
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* ''Fanfic/{{Ultrasonic}}'' has a variant when Nick's jailbreak of Marinette is interrupted by an unnamed tiger police officer, who shoots at Nick and narrowly misses. Nick points out that it's a new model of gun whose safety turns back on automatically when the magazine is emptied. This gives Nick an opening to kick his own tranquiliser gun at the tiger and for the two to get away.
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15th Feb '17 11:04:05 PM Doug86
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* The ''Franchise/DoctorWho'' comic-strip adventure "The Bronze Men," serialized in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'', has the Fourth Doctor use this to bluff his gun-wielding foe while he gets a door open with his Sonic Screwdriver. Justified, too, in that said foe was a man in 15th Century China with a 23rd Century-era blaster--he wouldn't have known what a safety catch ''was''.

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* The ''Franchise/DoctorWho'' ''Franchise/{{Doctor Who|ExpandedUniverse}}'' comic-strip adventure "The Bronze Men," "Dragon's Claw," serialized in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'', has the Fourth Doctor use this to bluff his gun-wielding foe while he gets a door open with his Sonic Screwdriver.sonic screwdriver. Justified, too, in that said foe was a man in 15th Century China with a 23rd Century-era blaster--he wouldn't have known what a safety catch ''was''.



* This happens to One-Round, the DumbMuscle member of the gang in the 1955 version of ''Film/TheLadykillers.''

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* This happens to One-Round, the DumbMuscle member of the gang in the 1955 version of ''Film/TheLadykillers.''''Film/TheLadykillers''.



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